Who do you think is the best heavyweight: Wilder, Fury or Joshua?

Who's the best, in your opinion?

I think it's Anthony Joshua.

Tyson Fury will be a clear #2 in a few months, when he's back to his best. He's already back in the gym, he'll be better in his Wilder rematch.

I rank Wilder below those two. He may not even be #3, I think Whyte, Miller and several others might beat him.

On paper Tyson has had the best career, so far.

Fully motivated and inspired Fury beats AJ and Wilder.

In reality it is AJ who is the most consistent.

Wilder has power but too one dimensional against the top fighters.

Three different styles and all capable of beating each other on their day.


A fully focussed and fit Fury just shades it for me

Fury as he shakes off more ring rust is the all around boxing package, speed, mobility and chin minus the ko power.

With more ring time, he could be the best we have today.

Depends on how you define “best”. AJ is the best in terms of fundamentals and technique. If you have a young kid and want to show textbook, learned skill ajishua is your guy.

If you define “best” as most exciting, Wilder is your guy. If you want to show your young fighter what a tough, intimidating mentality is, Wilder is the man. You won’t be able to teach what Wilder does, because he was born with that punch and his personal experience has created that mentality.

If you define “best” as the fighter with the most tools and style to beat the most fighters, Fury is the man. You can never teach being 6’9”, moving like he does, or develop a fighters heart and resilience to Tyson’s level (you can’t even find sparring to mimick his attributes). Tyson won’t always be in the most exciting fights, but he will give anyone he fights massive problems.

As for who wins if they all fight, I think Fury wins the majority of fights via decision, with Wilder next due to his ridiculous power, and AJ’s stamina and chin limiting him to third. They are heavyweights though, and all can punch, so anyone can win any match up.

The only results that would shock me in any of these fights would be an early ko win for Fury.

He doesn’t really throw bombs does he

Agree with @Freedom . AJ , Fury & Wilder in that order. If one was at his best, and the other wasn’t , they could conceivably all beat each other.
But all things being equal, that’s how I would have it.
We’re never going to find out now, but I would honestly have Povetkin above Wilder and maybe even Fury, even now.

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Originally Posted by Freedom

Who's the best, in your opinion?

I think it's Anthony Joshua.

Tyson Fury will be a clear #2 in a few months, when he's back to his best. He's already back in the gym, he'll be better in his Wilder rematch.

I rank Wilder below those two. He may not even be #3, I think Whyte, Miller and several others might beat him.

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If anyone can seriously make a case for or against any one of them they are lying. If they can tell you with a straight face that the believe this beyond a shadow of a doubt that any one of them is the best or worst of the bunch, they are lying.

Fact is: NO ONE KNOWS!!!

But we DO KNOW that the top three guys are Wilder, Fury and Joshua. Povetkin slotted in at #4, but Joshua did away with him painlessly and so he has slipped.

Other than that there are a few fights we would not mind seeing from the champs and/or contenders, but after the top three champs, everyone else is in a muddled position.

How DO you rate Miller, Pulev, Povetkin (who is still probably better than all of the "other" guys), Ruiz, Bryan, Rivas, Wallin, etc, etc...?!? It does not matter now anyway: WILDER, FURY AND JOSHUA is where our focus is right now. Until we sort this out, particularly Wilder/Fury to be sorted out NOW, we will have to say no on is TRULY the best.

jmo...

Joshua is clearly the best, by my eye. The Fury-Wilder fight just confirmed my belief that he'd iron out both.

However, Fury at least showed he's intelligent, awkward and mentally strong enough to make it very competitive. Ultimately though the power difference will prove to be the factor. Unlike Wilder he can fight on the inside and will very much enjoy trading with Fury.

Wilder gets blitzed inside 9 minutes... but obviously can't be totally ruled out against anyone, that's what makes him so compelling. The longer Wilder is left in the ring the more dangerous he becomes.

I think Fury is the best in his top form. Wilder and AJ are pretty close to me maybe giving Wilder a little edge but it’s a toss up. I actually think the top 3 are pretty close. I think they are all toss up fights.

Wilder.

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Originally Posted by walrus

Wilder.

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It says the best, not the worst.

I’ve always said AJ is the best of them but I’m not sure he beats either. AJ is weak mentally, that has been demonstrated in the Wilder negotiations when he joined Eddie in lie after lie. If a man can’t speak the truth he is weak. This is why so many heavies, even ones he has beaten call him a “bi**h”

If he lets Wilder hang around his slow feet and penchant for backing straight up will get him ironed. To win he will have to control every minute so he doesn’t show his flaws. He can, but will he, will Wilder come back improved in Fury II, will Fury? So many great questions to be answered if AJ will ask Eddie for his balls back, better yet if he takes them back.

I'd say Joshua is the most ATHLETIC one of the bunch. More cagier fighter. But what happens when he gets hit with a BOMB from Wilder- a BOMB 10X's as heavy as Wlad's? Let's be honest: Wlad hits hard, but it is not concussive to the point of Wilder, Shavers, Tua or Tyson.

Also: What happens when Joshua finds out Fury is not a guy you can intimidate and can box your ears off all night long, stay away, use his jab, slip and move and can do that for 20 rounds if he has to? A Fury/Joshua may end up like a Fury/Chisora #2- Or thereabouts!

Don't let physique or jumping around the ring like a jackrabbit fool you. Fury and Wilder have remedies for that! Wilder can fix that in split second, and Fury can make sure it never becomes a problem!
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I’m not sure. Fury is capable of outboxing Joshua imo.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I’ve always said AJ is the best of them but I’m not sure he beats either. AJ is weak mentally, that has been demonstrated in the Wilder negotiations when he joined Eddie in lie after lie. If a man can’t speak the truth he is weak. This is why so many heavies, even ones he has beaten call him a “bi**h”

If he lets Wilder hang around his slow feet and penchant for backing straight up will get him ironed. To win he will have to control every minute so he doesn’t show his flaws. He can, but will he, will Wilder come back improved in Fury II, will Fury? So many great questions to be answered if AJ will ask Eddie for his balls back, better yet if he takes them back.

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Agree with part... not with the whole thing. No doubt his image has suffered by letting Hearn speak for him and make a circus of his failed negotiations with Wilder. LOL at the balls part, and I'd have to say I agree with that also. But mentally weak in the ring? He got up from a heavy knockdown against Wlad, to knock Wlad out. That showed some mental fortitude. He can be mentally strong in the ring and be a wimp in his relationship with Hearn.

As to the OP question, that's tough to answer. That's like asking who was better between Ali, Foreman and Frazier. It's the classic A beats B.... B beats C..... C beats A. How do you pick between the three? I'm not sure AJ beats either myself. Wilder catches a lot of flak here.... but the fight against Fury was closer than a lot of people here like to admit. I'd like to think both Wilder and Fury will improve off that fight. Well.... Fury really doesn't have much else he can improve on. His boxing was superb and so was his stamina. Credit to Fury for not going in with fear against Wilder, half the battle right there. Credit to Wilder for hanging in there against the first opponent of that type he had ever faced (bigger, confident, awkward, good boxer).

All I know is the division has seen two great, exciting title fights in the last couple of years. Joshua vs Wlad, and Wilder vs Fury. Both brought back the excitement to the division again, after years of boredom during the Wlad era. Ironically, Wlad made me more of a fan with his loss to Joshua than I ever was during his boring reign. He came to fight. By the same token, Fury made a fan out of me against Wilder, after years of hating on him for his stinkfest against Wlad.

Of the three, in head to head matchups, I'd say Fury probably outboxes and beats Joshua. Wilder-Joshua is tougher to call. Joshua would undoubtedly be cautious, which would play into Wilder's hands. But that's more of a 50/50 for me. In a Fury-Wilder rematch, again it's hard to call. Fury's stamina was great in their first fight. Don't see how that's gonna improve by much. In fact, I don't see much where Fury could improve upon his first effort, which was superb. Whereas Wilder certainly has a lot of room for improvement. I'd go with close to 50/50 on the rematch, with a slight edge toward Fury if Wilder doesn't correct some of his issues.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I’ve always said AJ is the best of them but I’m not sure he beats either. AJ is weak mentally, that has been demonstrated in the Wilder negotiations when he joined Eddie in lie after lie. If a man can’t speak the truth he is weak. This is why so many heavies, even ones he has beaten call him a “bi**h”

If he lets Wilder hang around his slow feet and penchant for backing straight up will get him ironed. To win he will have to control every minute so he doesn’t show his flaws. He can, but will he, will Wilder come back improved in Fury II, will Fury? So many great questions to be answered if AJ will ask Eddie for his balls back, better yet if he takes them back.

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Agree with part... not with the whole thing. No doubt his image has suffered by letting Hearn speak for him and make a circus of his failed negotiations with Wilder. LOL at the balls part, and I'd have to say I agree with that also. But mentally weak in the ring? He got up from a heavy knockdown against Wlad, to knock Wlad out. That showed some mental fortitude. He can be mentally strong in the ring and be a wimp in his relationship with Hearn.

As to the OP question, that's tough to answer. That's like asking who was better between Ali, Foreman and Frazier. It's the classic A beats B.... B beats C..... C beats A. How do you pick between the three? I'm not sure AJ beats either myself. Wilder catches a lot of flak here.... but the fight against Fury was closer than a lot of people here like to admit. I'd like to think both Wilder and Fury will improve off that fight. Well.... Fury really doesn't have much else he can improve on. His boxing was superb and so was his stamina. Credit to Fury for not going in with fear against Wilder, half the battle right there. Credit to Wilder for hanging in there against the first opponent of that type he had ever faced (bigger, confident, awkward, good boxer).

All I know is the division has seen two great, exciting title fights in the last couple of years. Joshua vs Wlad, and Wilder vs Fury. Both brought back the excitement to the division again, after years of boredom during the Wlad era. Ironically, Wlad made me more of a fan with his loss to Joshua than I ever was during his boring reign. He came to fight. By the same token, Fury made a fan out of me against Wilder, after years of hating on him for his stinkfest against Wlad.

Of the three, in head to head matchups, I'd say Fury probably outboxes and beats Joshua. Wilder-Joshua is tougher to call. Joshua would undoubtedly be cautious, which would play into Wilder's hands. But that's more of a 50/50 for me. In a Fury-Wilder rematch, again it's hard to call. Fury's stamina was great in their first fight. Don't see how that's gonna improve by much. In fact, I don't see much where Fury could improve upon his first effort, which was superb. Whereas Wilder certainly has a lot of room for improvement. I'd go with close to 50/50 on the rematch, with a slight edge toward Fury if Wilder doesn't correct some of his issues.

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I don't think Wilder will ever be any different from the first fight. I think Fury will be far better now he's got twelve rounds in his legs. He was wobbling and jiggling and not in the condition he was for the Klitschko fight. He got caught in the ninth and the last round whether it was a little drop in energy levels or in being mentally switched on next time out I don't think he'll get caught. I think it'll be a clearer Fury win next time out.

AJ or Fury.

AJ fought the better competition in fewer fights..but Fury did dethrone WK.

I think Fury is the better boxer but AJ is getting better.

Hard to choose between the two but AJ gets the nod because of the consistency.

People think AJ is the best, but if you're thinking that then you are a fool, you should know the rules Tyson Fury is king now. He beat Deontay Wilder got robbed like Pernell Whitaker. AJ didn't have the guts or the gall to fight Deontay

1. Tyson Fury
2. Deontay Wilder
3. Anthony Joshua

AJ can't beat Fury and he can't beat Wilder and he knows it.

AJ is the best for me.

Fury until someone says otherwise. Still the true HW Champion.

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Originally Posted by mrbig1

Fury until someone says otherwise. Still the true HW Champion.

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3 years out of action and we are all expected to wait for him to get his act together.

By that logic Tunney and Marciano would still be champs.