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I know this has been already discussed many times over..but AJ fighting x2 a year is not enough.
Hearn is now saying the April date won’t happen and it looks like June for the first fight of the year.
X3 fights a year for these champions should be mandatory.
AJ needs as much fights as possible.
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Originally Posted by imp
I used to say the same about Wladimir Klitschko - he was fighting twice a year, there were a couple of years he fought only once.
A champ should do one big fight per year (mandatory or unification) and also fight two ranked contenders, for a total of 3 fights per year.
Most would agree but the champion should be allowed to fight an "easier" opponent if it was the case.
However they may not be paid the same amount so would prefer not to take the unnecessary risk.
Could AJ fill a stadium 3 times per year?
Not getting at Joshua as such, but why do Champions, WORLD CHAMPIONS NO LESS, take “Easier” fights? If you want to call yourself “Champion of the whole World,” then you have to keep defending that status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
There’s enough people in the World that want to take that title away from you.
When you get to the top of the hill, you don’t have a breather, you keep pushing .
If people want world champions to fight 3 times a year then I think it is fair for them to have non-title bouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNot getting at Joshua as such, but why do Champions, WORLD CHAMPIONS NO LESS, take “Easier” fights? If you want to call yourself “Champion of the whole World,” then you have to keep defending that status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
There’s enough people in the World that want to take that title away from you.
When you get to the top of the hill, you don’t have a breather, you keep pushing .
Nah. if they want non title fights, give up the title! simples. I don't mind alternating between Voluntary or Mandatory, but they should always be for the title. What the fuck are these guys fighting for and indeed we are watching , if it's not for World Titles?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf people want world champions to fight 3 times a year then I think it is fair for them to have non-title bouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNot getting at Joshua as such, but why do Champions, WORLD CHAMPIONS NO LESS, take “Easier” fights? If you want to call yourself “Champion of the whole World,” then you have to keep defending that status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
There’s enough people in the World that want to take that title away from you.
When you get to the top of the hill, you don’t have a breather, you keep pushing .
this is the modern day problem . it's all about money fights rather than titles.
Boxing is now run in a way that top PPV cash cows like Joshua must only fight twice a year.
It's a real shame that boxing has gone this way, but that's the way it is now.
I remember Tyson fighting 4x a year when he was champion in 1987 & by June '88, he'd already had 3 fights & was scheduled to face Bruno in September '88, but his life fell apart, so the bout didn't happen until later until February '89.
I know that was prior to the PPV era we're in now, but it was not as if it was 1,000,000 years ago, it was in the modern era of boxing & Tyson was a huge cash cow & they managed get him out there 4x year.
Joshua could easily fight 4x a year, but the business side of boxing does not want that these days.
Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf people want world champions to fight 3 times a year then I think it is fair for them to have non-title bouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNot getting at Joshua as such, but why do Champions, WORLD CHAMPIONS NO LESS, take “Easier” fights? If you want to call yourself “Champion of the whole World,” then you have to keep defending that status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
There’s enough people in the World that want to take that title away from you.
When you get to the top of the hill, you don’t have a breather, you keep pushing .
Joshua should fight March/April, then July/August and then December.
No excuses..he is a multi millionaire and the top of the hill.
Whyte, Fat boy Miller and then Fury/Wilder.
Yeah fighters should definitely listen to nerdy fans, there's really no excuse for not making our lives less boring.
How the fuck can you expect a World champion in the prime of his career to have non title bouts?
Yes. Stupid statement that. Non title bouts ffs.
I think 5 fights over a two year period easier to maintain and schedule. Not too much to ask
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Julio C Chavez did it and so did fighters from the past.
:horseshit::LOS: Tell you what, why don't you re-instate that guy from yesterday and make him a mod, and ban yourself cos he made more sense!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
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Originally Posted by Master
On the plus side, JCC was a pretty busy fighter. On the minus side, he routinely retreated to the friendly confines of Mexican towns to fatten his record against inferior opposition in non-title fights.
I'm all for quality over quantity preferably and while a top champion should do a lot of things..as the old saying goes 'shat happens'. Dates, opponents, injuries come up and next thing you know you end with Wilder defending 3 times against late TBA's. It all comes down to who you fight. Any heavyweight champ we can name may have had a 3,4 fights a year but you can bet that by design there was a soft touch that probably didn't scratch the top 20 list of viable opponents. And it's not all on the fighter, what promoters wants to realistically play all his best hands right up front? Promotors ruin everything. Fans certainly deserve the best vs best consistently but to play devils advocate good luck with that and I have a unicorn for sale. Then again Josuha holds all that shiny excess tin and he puts himself in a position to appease 2,3,4 alphabet soup groups in one night. He may want to think about quality over quantity himself and have one or two melted down rather than play puppet. Who really takes the IBO serious while were at it???.
As it stands tonight he's out since Sept and needs to get his big toothy arse to work. I saw they offered Miller a fight in NY but it seemed half hearted.
That was because he was trying to get to 100 wins and 0 losses. There was no way he was going to do that if he fought top challengers every fight. It also allowed the locals to see the great fighter which was another advantage to non-title fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
On the plus side, JCC was a pretty busy fighter. On the minus side, he routinely retreated to the friendly confines of Mexican towns to fatten his record against inferior opposition in non-title fights.
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Originally Posted by MasterThat was because he was trying to get to 100 wins and 0 losses. There was no way he was going to do that if he fought top challengers every fight. It also allowed the locals to see the great fighter which was another advantage to non-title fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
On the plus side, JCC was a pretty busy fighter. On the minus side, he routinely retreated to the friendly confines of Mexican towns to fatten his record against inferior opposition in non-title fights.
Exactly! Which is why I despise artificially bloated records and have personally never given a damn about his 100-win record. It's like having the tallest building in the neighborhood with some of the floors being held up by a few wooden planks, just for the sake of making it the tallest building.