7 June
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Teresa May picked up Cameron’s mess but did an appalling job of delivering Brexit that it is almost comical how bad it has gone.
May lost her majority by announcing a general election when one was not required, this vanity project which she did not even turn up to and thought she would win with her “strong and stable” mantra resulted in her losing her majority government.
Negotiated a poor deal herself that could not get through parliament.
Asked Labour to help when it was far too late.
Now forced out by her party.
Like all politicians she says one thing but does the exact opposite.
The inequalities she wanted to combat were created by her government. May is part of a government that has created the hostile environment to migrants and increased inequality so that even some schools are closing on Friday because of underfunding.
"The elite are not going to obey their public thus they need to fall and Jeremy Corbyn campaigned to stay and must fall too. May is a walking corpse at this stage ready for a retirement home" - Nostradamus.
So much for not wasting this time which we were granted following the Brexit extension.
The self serving Tories are now about to spend the Summer wasting more time with a leadership contest, which will probably take us right up until the time they go off for their Summer break.
When they return, they will have a week or so before going off again, then straight into the conference season.
When that's all over, we'll probably be left with days to sort out Brexit before the October 31st deadline.
I'd ordinarily say that the UK is a laughing stock, but this isn't funny.
I'd love to know where Cameron is now.
This $hitstorm is all his making.
He called a referendum purely for the sake of the Conservative party because he was terrified of a party with TWO MPs, both of whom were disaffected ex Tories anyway, & he arrogantly thought the country would vote the way he wanted.
When he didn't, the gutless creep cut & run so that he can spend more time with this money.
Trump is visiting June 3rd so the timing is interesting.
Well that's ironic considering the rich/middle-classes can choose to take Friday's off :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...change-strikes
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoo...SqC4/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
:-X;D
Start of Shabbat mate. Jewish takeover ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWell that's ironic considering the rich/middle-classes can choose to take Friday's off :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...change-strikes
She can go back to playing Skeletor in Masters of the Universe.
:fyou::fyou:
"My friends, as I have discovered myself, there are no disasters, only opportunities. And, indeed, opportunities for fresh disasters."
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4749&stc=1
The words of another opportunist, like May, who is more interested in their own ambition/job/party than the electorate from all sides they should be representing and serving.
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Originally Posted by Beanz
She is crying because she saw her reflection in one of the Tv camera lenses.
She also lost one of her Ruby Slippers.
Will they give Boris the ball?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzqe5z1Jy_M
...the absolute unit :lolhaha:
Odds for the next Prime Monster
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4750&stc=1
I suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
They will bring in Mugabe and claim it is for diversity as borders are silly and black people cannot be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Good one. I didnt realize Mugabe is still alive, that guy was beyond belief;D
You really don't get it do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
We are yet again going to have another unelected Prime Minister. The Labour party or any other party do not have a look in. At least you are not pretending to be in favour of democracy or the will of the people any more. This country has been fucked over by the Tories for 9 years now.
To be fair the only person who suggested that non-white people can't be racist was you after getting triggered by the idea that Asian people might be more racist than whites ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThey will bring in Mugabe and claim it is for diversity as borders are silly and black people cannot be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Hmm. If triggered means asking you for an example, then yes, I was completely triggered. I see you do not object to Robert Mugabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzTo be fair the only person who suggested that non-white people can't be racist was you after getting triggered by the idea that Asian people might be more racist than whites ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThey will bring in Mugabe and claim it is for diversity as borders are silly and black people cannot be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Listen to yourself. You seem to think that you are the only person who has ever met an Asian. How insane is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHmm. If triggered means asking you for an example, then yes, I was completely triggered. I see you do not object to Robert Mugabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzTo be fair the only person who suggested that non-white people can't be racist was you after getting triggered by the idea that Asian people might be more racist than whites ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThey will bring in Mugabe and claim it is for diversity as borders are silly and black people cannot be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
And then have to pretend that I would support an animal like Mugabe simply because I refuse to join you in your endorsement of racists and fascists.
Even in a humourus meme pointing out how monstrous, inhumane and heartless the tory leaders who have presided over a massive rise in child poverty, and the death of hundreds of disabled citizens you would rather pretend it is about race. Pulling the race card and making white people out to be the victim, when in this case they were quite clearly the bastards.
Of course Asian people can be more racist than whites. They don't have to be muslims or immigrants. They can be atheists Asians and still be homophobic, racist, mysgonist.
Tory leader candidate Sajid Javid is an Ayn R and fan ffs. Explains the tory empathy bypass and lack of belief in community you both share.
:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzListen to yourself. You seem to think that you are the only person who has ever met an Asian. How insane is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHmm. If triggered means asking you for an example, then yes, I was completely triggered. I see you do not object to Robert Mugabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzTo be fair the only person who suggested that non-white people can't be racist was you after getting triggered by the idea that Asian people might be more racist than whites ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThey will bring in Mugabe and claim it is for diversity as borders are silly and black people cannot be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
And then have to pretend that I would support an animal like Mugabe simply because I refuse to join you in your endorsement of racists and fascists.
Even in a humourus meme pointing out how monstrous, inhumane and heartless the tory leaders who have presided over a massive rise in child poverty, and the death of hundreds of disabled citizens you would rather pretend it is about race. Pulling the race card and making white people out to be the victim, when in this case they were quite clearly the bastards.
Of course Asian people can be more racist than whites. They don't have to be muslims or immigrants. They can be atheists Asians and still be homophobic, racist, mysgonist.
Tory leader candidate Sajid Javid is an Ayn R and fan ffs. Explains the tory empathy bypass and lack of belief in community you both share.
Now a wanking a yellow cock clearly racist meme to silence me just because I happen to be white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzListen to yourself. You seem to think that you are the only person who has ever met an Asian. How insane is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHmm. If triggered means asking you for an example, then yes, I was completely triggered. I see you do not object to Robert Mugabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzTo be fair the only person who suggested that non-white people can't be racist was you after getting triggered by the idea that Asian people might be more racist than whites ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThey will bring in Mugabe and claim it is for diversity as borders are silly and black people cannot be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
And then have to pretend that I would support an animal like Mugabe simply because I refuse to join you in your endorsement of racists and fascists.
Even in a humourus meme pointing out how monstrous, inhumane and heartless the tory leaders who have presided over a massive rise in child poverty, and the death of hundreds of disabled citizens you would rather pretend it is about race. Pulling the race card and making white people out to be the victim, when in this case they were quite clearly the bastards.
Of course Asian people can be more racist than whites. They don't have to be muslims or immigrants. They can be atheists Asians and still be homophobic, racist, mysgonist.
Tory leader candidate Sajid Javid is an Ayn R and fan ffs. Explains the tory empathy bypass and lack of belief in community you both share.
I just thought it was a rather serious response to an obviously off the cuff flippant comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzNow a wanking a yellow cock clearly racist meme to silence me just because I happen to be white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzListen to yourself. You seem to think that you are the only person who has ever met an Asian. How insane is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHmm. If triggered means asking you for an example, then yes, I was completely triggered. I see you do not object to Robert Mugabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzTo be fair the only person who suggested that non-white people can't be racist was you after getting triggered by the idea that Asian people might be more racist than whites ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThey will bring in Mugabe and claim it is for diversity as borders are silly and black people cannot be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI suppose it's between Glenda The Good Witch and Father Christmas on the Labour side then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
And then have to pretend that I would support an animal like Mugabe simply because I refuse to join you in your endorsement of racists and fascists.
Even in a humourus meme pointing out how monstrous, inhumane and heartless the tory leaders who have presided over a massive rise in child poverty, and the death of hundreds of disabled citizens you would rather pretend it is about race. Pulling the race card and making white people out to be the victim, when in this case they were quite clearly the bastards.
Of course Asian people can be more racist than whites. They don't have to be muslims or immigrants. They can be atheists Asians and still be homophobic, racist, mysgonist.
Tory leader candidate Sajid Javid is an Ayn R and fan ffs. Explains the tory empathy bypass and lack of belief in community you both share.
It's just you deflecting from and apologising for the Tories again.
Asian tories are nearly always more racist than non tory Asians. Still nowhere near as racist as UKIP Asians though.
Not sure I agree with your loose definition of Asian, but if you would like to use the media version then I will agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I do not support the Tories.
Never have.
Like I have always said say you will employ PC methods when it suits you to shut down any meaningful debate. Why now do you suddenly not consider people whose Parents both came from Pakistan as Asian? His is English. He is British. But he is also a British Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfNot sure I agree with your loose definition of Asian, but if you would like to use the media version then I will agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I do not support the Tories.
Never have.
My Fathers second wife is a British citizen but she was not born here. She is Asian.
Where have i ever suggested that because you come from Harrogate where 95% of the population are white, you know nothing about ethnic minorities? It turns out that actually you don't but that is beside the point. You project this ignorance onto others. In 2002 my City had 2% ethnic minority by 2010 it had risen to 10% and now it is approaching 20% . We are a port and dispersal centre for asylum seekers. Not some sheltered posh Victorian Spa town miles from the coast like where you come from. There are many refugees from Iraq and Syria and other places in the middle east here and you have long castigated me for working with them and those victims of war in Syria and Iraq etc for years now. Now all of a sudden I have never met a non white, non christian person? You are all over the place mate, and anger will do that to you.
Calm down. We are going to have another unelected tory Prime Minister who will share many more of your values than mine. Embrace it, after all it will make no difference to you Miles , a long distance, away in Asia. ;D
My point is that I question the use of the word Asian considering the scope and size of Asia itself. An Indian person is very distinct from a Thai person or a Thai person from a Japanese person. None is better or worse than the other and we treat people as individuals, but I take exception to it especially within the context of how the Western media uses it to describe groups who really have nothing in common with East Asians.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLike I have always said say you will employ PC methods when it suits you to shut down any meaningful debate. Why now do you suddenly not consider people whose Parents both came from Pakistan as Asian? His is English. He is British. But he is also a British Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfNot sure I agree with your loose definition of Asian, but if you would like to use the media version then I will agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I do not support the Tories.
Never have.
My Fathers second wife is a British citizen but she was not born here. She is Asian.
Where have i ever suggested that because you come from Harrogate where 95% of the population are white, you know nothing about ethnic minorities? It turns out that actually you don't but that is beside the point. You project this ignorance onto others. In 2002 my City had 2% ethnic minority by 2010 it had risen to 10% and now it is approaching 20% . We are a port and dispersal centre for asylum seekers. Not some sheltered posh Victorian Spa town miles from the coast like where you come from. There are many refugees from Iraq and Syria and other places in the middle east here and you have long castigated me for working with them and those victims of war in Syria and Iraq etc for years now. Now all of a sudden I have never met a non white, non christian person? You are all over the place mate, and anger will do that to you.
Calm down. We are going to have another unelected tory Prime Minister who will share many more of your values than mine. Embrace it, after all it will make no difference to you Miles , a long distance, away in Asia. ;D
I do not come from Harrogate. However, Harrogate is a rather ordinary town a little like Plymouth with plenty of middle class people and a fair number of working class people. It is no doubt a largely white town. I actually spent most of my youth in the south of England which is why I always end up in various cities of the south. You do not know my history that well really Beanz, it is far too convoluted to go into really. Nearby in the north of course there are places like Leeds which are of course pretty diverse and Bradford is very close too. The South West really does not have the same levels of diversity. This is just a fact.
My point anyway being that all my adult years were spent in the environs of Manchester and Manchester for as long as I can remember has been a very diverse place. It has Curry mile, it has areas with large black or 'Asian' communities, and of course the local communities. I am not against good, hardworking people, who contribute from migrating, so please put that one to bed. I just think there has been too much. From 18 I was working around all of those areas and did so for a number of years, I know the area like the back of my hand. I would hang out with all kinds of people with all kinds of backgrounds and each person is treated as an individual.
So the farther one strays from your personal politics the more racist they become?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
The point is i do not make the sweeping assumptions about you that you do of me in order to avoid addressing any points I bring up. I have lived and worked in London, Glasgow, Europe all over the shop and yet you have to reduce anything I say down to the view of some cossetted ignorant individual rather than accept you are not the expert and authority you claim to be. You make me out to be a liar, mentally ill, anything in order to shut down my right as a British citizen to resist the destruction of Britain and voice my opposition to your invented narrative blaming all the sins of the Tories and New Labor before them on immigrants, those on the left, anyone who does not suck up to your right wing and fascist heroes.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfMy point is that I question the use of the word Asian considering the scope and size of Asia itself. An Indian person is very distinct from a Thai person or a Thai person from a Japanese person. None is better or worse than the other and we treat people as individuals, but I take exception to it especially within the context of how the Western media uses it to describe groups who really have nothing in common with East Asians.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLike I have always said say you will employ PC methods when it suits you to shut down any meaningful debate. Why now do you suddenly not consider people whose Parents both came from Pakistan as Asian? His is English. He is British. But he is also a British Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfNot sure I agree with your loose definition of Asian, but if you would like to use the media version then I will agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I do not support the Tories.
Never have.
My Fathers second wife is a British citizen but she was not born here. She is Asian.
Where have i ever suggested that because you come from Harrogate where 95% of the population are white, you know nothing about ethnic minorities? It turns out that actually you don't but that is beside the point. You project this ignorance onto others. In 2002 my City had 2% ethnic minority by 2010 it had risen to 10% and now it is approaching 20% . We are a port and dispersal centre for asylum seekers. Not some sheltered posh Victorian Spa town miles from the coast like where you come from. There are many refugees from Iraq and Syria and other places in the middle east here and you have long castigated me for working with them and those victims of war in Syria and Iraq etc for years now. Now all of a sudden I have never met a non white, non christian person? You are all over the place mate, and anger will do that to you.
Calm down. We are going to have another unelected tory Prime Minister who will share many more of your values than mine. Embrace it, after all it will make no difference to you Miles , a long distance, away in Asia. ;D
I do not come from Harrogate. However, Harrogate is a rather ordinary town a little like Plymouth with plenty of middle class people and a fair number of working class people. It is no doubt a largely white town. I actually spent most of my youth in the south of England which is why I always end up in various cities of the south. You do not know my history that well really Beanz, it is far too convoluted to go into really. Nearby in the north of course there are places like Leeds which are of course pretty diverse and Bradford is very close too. The South West really does not have the same levels of diversity. This is just a fact.
My point anyway being that all my adult years were spent in the environs of Manchester and Manchester for as long as I can remember has been a very diverse place. It has Curry mile, it has areas with large black or 'Asian' communities, and of course the local communities. I am not against good, hardworking people, who contribute from migrating, so please put that one to bed. I just think there has been too much. From 18 I was working around all of those areas and did so for a number of years, I know the area like the back of my hand. I would hang out with all kinds of people with all kinds of backgrounds and each person is treated as an individual.
And now you are trying to police the use of the word Asian when you use words like weapons to demonize and marginalize huge swathes of the world in order to justify your own prejudices. ;D
The Conservative party and UKIP are full of racists and always have been. It has nothing to do with my personal policies it is a fact that you no doubt will never admit. May herself was responsible for ushering in 'The Hostile Environment' as home secretary with policies that not only demonized all immigrants but resulted in the enforced repatriation of legal retired British citizens that settled here on our invitation from the Caribbean 50+ years ago. Farrage and all the other corrupt elites you and Gandalf have backed openly for years now have conspired with white Americans to blame the destruction of poor working class communities by the Tory government in Britain on 'others'. The immigrant, the Muslim, The Eastern European.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo the farther one strays from your personal politics the more racist they become?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I consider these people you support to be no better than enemy agents seeking to overthrow British Culture of which you seem to understand very little.
I was mainly pointing out that your town has very little diversity. For years you have thrown that at me and life overseas. All I did was throw it back at you really.
I have explained my view on Asian. It's like saying Italian and English are the same as in Caucasian. Very different culturally, linguistically and historically.
Isn't it more realistically a bit of both though, Beanz? Deindustrialisation and then open borders in unison is just a very bad idea at least to my way of thinking anyway. I've nothing against good migrants at all, I just dislike the bad ones and the open borders policy.
Again you are being dishonest. It is a city with twice the population of your shite spa town and is an incredibly more strategically important and historically relevant place to British History than bloody Harrogate. There are 52 Plymouth's in the world for a reason. We fought the Royalists while you housed them in a castle. What is it with you needing to avoid facts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
What you mean by cultural diversity is 'Non-White'. You may as well come out and say it. Our Synagogue has been her since 1762 and the Jewish community for a lot longer. The Gypsy community has been here for just as long but I bet you have never spent a night in a caravan let alone lived in one, the Polish have been here since at least 1800 probably before, so go on tell me about why white people are all the same, and Muslims are all the same, but Asians are unique.
Shove your very different culturally, linguistically and historically when you do not even admit the same thing about British people , white or otherwise let alone Muslims or Immigrants or anyone else you seek to blame.
Diversity to beanz its gypsies and Jews. Damn he better not come to the US it might blow a fuse in his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzAgain you are being dishonest. It is a city with twice the population of your shite spa town and is an incredibly more strategically important and historically relevant place to British History than bloody Harrogate. There are 52 Plymouth's in the world for a reason. We fought the Royalists while you housed them in a castle. What is it with you needing to avoid facts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
What you mean by cultural diversity is 'Non-White'. You may as well come out and say it. Our Synagogue has been her since 1762 and the Jewish community for a lot longer. The Gypsy community has been here for just as long but I bet you have never spent a night in a caravan let alone lived in one, the Polish have been here since at least 1800 probably before, so go on tell me about why white people are all the same, and Muslims are all the same, but Asians are unique.
Shove your very different culturally, linguistically and historically when you do not even admit the same thing about British people , white or otherwise let alone Muslims or Immigrants or anyone else you seek to blame.
I like the joke, it is the end of May next week. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Oh ok so there are "actual racists" in all other parties but there are no such issues with Labour?
Funny Carl Benjamin used the same clip in his video the other weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz