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Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz 2
Deontay Wilder next fight: WBC champion ‘signs’ for rematch vs Luis Ortiz to delay unification bout against Anthony Joshua
The American tweeted to say he had signed for a rematch against the man he beat in March 2018 and boxing fans think he is simply ducking AJ
Anthony Joshua wants to fight Deontay Wilder, but the American has other plans.
The current WBC champion announced he has ‘signed’ a contract to fight Luis Ortiz adding on Twitter ‘all my controversial fights must get dealt with ASAP.’
Wilder beat Ortiz in their first fight in New York last year, knocking the Cuban out in the 10th round to inflict his only professional defeat.
His previous fight was a first round knockout of Dominic Breazeale to record the ninth-straight defence of his WBC title.
Joshua, who fights Andy Ruiz Jr at Madison Square Garden on 1 June, recently spoke about wanting face-to-face talks with Wilder to finally arrange a meeting in the ring.
The WBA, IBF and WBO heavyweight champion, clearly frustrated with the failed attempts from promoters and broadcasters to engineer the clash, said: “I think they should sit us down face-to-face and talk about what the issues are man to man and get this fight sorted this year.”
Former heavyweight boxer David Haye believes AJ is the best of the bunch right now due to his unblemished record.
“Anthony Joshua’s never had a draw,” he told talkSPORT.
“If you look at Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder, they had a fight, I was strangely happy with a draw because it’s hard to go into an opponent’s back yard and take the title off the champion after being knocked down so heavily, twice.”
https://talksport.com/wp-content/upl...60&quality=100
At the start of May, Joshua’s promoter, Eddie Hearn revealed Ortiz had been offered $7m to fight the Brit in New York when he was looking for a replacement for Jarrell Miller, who was kicked off the card for failing a drug test.
Initially, the Cuban’s camp accused Hearn of making ‘lowball’ offers in negotiations, though they soon retracted this statement when he threatened to ‘expose’ them.
“I got two phone calls when the [Miller] news broke straight away. One was Jay Jimenez who is Luis Ortiz’s manager,” Hearn revealed.
“Jay Jimenez phoned me up and said, ‘I can’t believe this, I don’t think Luis will be ready.’
“I said, ‘Find out if Luis will be ready.’
“He came back the next day or two days later and said, ‘Make us an offer.’
“I made them an offer $6million – that was my first offer…
“No reply, this was on Friday. Monday I said, ‘I’ll call you.’
“Later on that day I came back and said, ‘Right, this is it, $7million for June 1. [If he wins, he gets] a rematch for quite a bit more and if he loses, I’ll give you another fight for a lot of money for security.’
“Nothing back.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/5...nthony-joshua/
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WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder says he has agreed a rematch with Cuba’s Luis Ortiz.
American Wilder beat Ortiz with a 10th-round knockout in March 2018.
“To all my fans, I want to announce that Luis Ortiz and I have signed for a rematch, with the date and site to be announced shortly. All my controversial fights Must get dealt with ASAP!!” the 33-year-old posted on Twitter.
Wilder has won 41 of his 42 fights, the other being a controversial draw with Britain’s Tyson Fury in December.
He knocked out Dominic Breazeale in the first round earlier this month to retain his world title.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/her...051223574.html
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Don't know and don't care whose fault it is that the fights between the big 3 aren't happening, because in reality it's a bit of everybody's fault. So in the meantime we just have to fights like this.
in Itself , obviously it's not a bad scrap, but there's really no point in it. But hey , when did Boxing ever give a fuck about that.
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I like the rematch, let's hope Ortiz wobbles him early enough in a round to finish him off unlike last time when Wilder was gifted 40 seconds extra recovery time for no apparent reason 😉
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It’s a great fight. You really have to respect who Wilder has been fighting lately. Hell, anyone that isn’t a Joshua fanboy wanted him to be fighting Ortiz in June because he is the 4th best HW.
But at the same time, I don’t care. If it’s not some combo of the big 3 I don’t care. There are 3 more fights at least that need to happen between them. With the rate people fight today that’s 2 years, add a couple other fights in between and it’s 4 years. That’s more than enough time for a new big name to come along.
Strange in that I really would have respected Joshua if he had fought Ortiz but it doesn’t move the needle for me for Wilder, a fighter I think far less of. Says a lot.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz 2
Odd choice for Wilder. Ortiz gave him a tough fight last time out. He must be very confident that he will win because it would be very bad for him to pick up a loss
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Odd choice for Wilder. Ortiz gave him a tough fight last time out. He must be very confident that he will win because it would be very bad for him to pick up a loss
This could be another Stiverne where he smashes him in round 1.
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Odd choice for Wilder. Ortiz gave him a tough fight last time out. He must be very confident that he will win because it would be very bad for him to pick up a loss
This could be another Stiverne where he smashes him in round 1.
If true, that really boosts Wilder
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Each fight that AJ, Fury, and Wilder have that aren't against each other is a fight wasted simple as that. Not a whole bunch more to be said about it.
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One thing I meant to say earlier on, this was a done deal by Wilder’s TV People. If you watch in the ring after the Brezeale fight, they got Ortiz in there and tried to talk up a rematch . I’m not into defending Wilder too much , but to be fair, he more or less ignored it and walked out of the ring and left Ortiz there, all in all making it a bit of a damp squib.
I don’t reckon Wilder was on board with it and pretty disinterested, so I won’t use the fact the he’s fighting Ortiz to say he’s ducking anyone, because I don’t reckon he’s that excited by this fight.
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You can't spark a match twice and feels a bit what Wilders aiming for. Ortiz looked pretty ordinary last out trying to keep light on his feet and jabbing and managed to let Hammer back into the fight. Would have loved Whyte v Wilder, least it leads to crossover appeal with UK-AJ and facing an improved fighter.
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One thing I meant to say earlier on, this was a done deal by Wilder’s TV People. If you watch in the ring after the Brezeale fight, they got Ortiz in there and tried to talk up a rematch . I’m not into defending Wilder too much , but to be fair, he more or less ignored it and walked out of the ring and left Ortiz there, all in all making it a bit of a damp squib.
I don’t reckon Wilder was on board with it and pretty disinterested, so I won’t use the fact the he’s fighting Ortiz to say he’s ducking anyone, because I don’t reckon he’s that excited by this fight.
The Showtime TV guy, Jim Gray, mugged Wilder off in the interview saying - "nobody wants to see you fight Ortiz again," whilst Ortiz was in the ring.
Nothing to do with the TV company wanting it, quite the opposite, Wilder chose Ortiz, he walked out thanks to Jim Gray not letting them sell shit nobody wants (barring Wilder groupies).
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Primo Carnera
One thing I meant to say earlier on, this was a done deal by Wilder’s TV People. If you watch in the ring after the Brezeale fight, they got Ortiz in there and tried to talk up a rematch . I’m not into defending Wilder too much , but to be fair, he more or less ignored it and walked out of the ring and left Ortiz there, all in all making it a bit of a damp squib.
I don’t reckon Wilder was on board with it and pretty disinterested, so I won’t use the fact the he’s fighting Ortiz to say he’s ducking anyone, because I don’t reckon he’s that excited by this fight.
The Showtime TV guy, Jim Gray, mugged Wilder off in the interview saying - "nobody wants to see you fight Ortiz again," whilst Ortiz was in the ring.
Nothing to do with the TV company wanting it, quite the opposite, Wilder chose Ortiz, he walked out thanks to Jim Gray not letting them sell shit nobody wants (barring Wilder groupies).
I might be wrong, but I thought he said "nobody wants to see you fight Brezeale" and that's why Brezeale walked off? he may have mentioned Ortiz as well, but that would be strange as they even made a half baked effort at interviewing him in the ring. I might be wrong, i'll have to try to find it on you tube.
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Primo Carnera
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Primo Carnera
One thing I meant to say earlier on, this was a done deal by Wilder’s TV People. If you watch in the ring after the Brezeale fight, they got Ortiz in there and tried to talk up a rematch . I’m not into defending Wilder too much , but to be fair, he more or less ignored it and walked out of the ring and left Ortiz there, all in all making it a bit of a damp squib.
I don’t reckon Wilder was on board with it and pretty disinterested, so I won’t use the fact the he’s fighting Ortiz to say he’s ducking anyone, because I don’t reckon he’s that excited by this fight.
The Showtime TV guy, Jim Gray, mugged Wilder off in the interview saying - "nobody wants to see you fight Ortiz again," whilst Ortiz was in the ring.
Nothing to do with the TV company wanting it, quite the opposite, Wilder chose Ortiz, he walked out thanks to Jim Gray not letting them sell shit nobody wants (barring Wilder groupies).
I might be wrong, but I thought he said "nobody wants to see you fight Brezeale" and that's why Brezeale walked off? he may have mentioned Ortiz as well, but that would be strange as they even made a half baked effort at interviewing him in the ring. I might be wrong, i'll have to try to find it on you tube.
Just found it he said people don't want to see Brezeale, Ruiz or the guy that Fury is fighting, he didn't name Ortiz but he was definitely getting at the fact that people only wanna see Wilder, AJ & Fury fighting and no one else
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One thing I meant to say earlier on, this was a done deal by Wilder’s TV People. If you watch in the ring after the Brezeale fight, they got Ortiz in there and tried to talk up a rematch . I’m not into defending Wilder too much , but to be fair, he more or less ignored it and walked out of the ring and left Ortiz there, all in all making it a bit of a damp squib.
I don’t reckon Wilder was on board with it and pretty disinterested, so I won’t use the fact the he’s fighting Ortiz to say he’s ducking anyone, because I don’t reckon he’s that excited by this fight.
The Showtime TV guy, Jim Gray, mugged Wilder off in the interview saying - "nobody wants to see you fight Ortiz again," whilst Ortiz was in the ring.
Nothing to do with the TV company wanting it, quite the opposite, Wilder chose Ortiz, he walked out thanks to Jim Gray not letting them sell shit nobody wants (barring Wilder groupies).
I might be wrong, but I thought he said "nobody wants to see you fight Brezeale" and that's why Brezeale walked off? he may have mentioned Ortiz as well, but that would be strange as they even made a half baked effort at interviewing him in the ring. I might be wrong, i'll have to try to find it on you tube.
Just found it he said people don't want to see Brezeale, Ruiz or the guy that Fury is fighting, he didn't name Ortiz but he was definitely getting at the fact that people only wanna see Wilder, AJ & Fury fighting and no one else
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR5HzbizAjs
Yeah just had the chance to see it again, 4.06 into the vid. I thought that was the case. Like I said, if you watch it in full (after this vid finishes) , you can see that Wilder was pretty disinterested in Ortiz.
I think he’s been told he’s fighting Ortiz. I’m not sticking up for Wilder, because I still reckon (and hope) that Joshua sparks him and that Fury beats him.
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I think a big fight will happen between the big 3 early 2020. Wilder after he beats Ortiz, Fury after the German and possibly Whyte, and AJ and whoever Eddie has lined for him late 2019.
There will be an auction to fight Wilder for his WBC title by Fury and AJ. Both will offer Wilder a fortune for this window of opportunity.
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I think a big fight will happen between the big 3 early 2020. Wilder after he beats Ortiz, Fury after the German and possibly Whyte, and AJ and whoever Eddie has lined for him late 2019.
There will be an auction to fight Wilder for his WBC title by Fury and AJ. Both will offer Wilder a fortune for this window of opportunity.
Wake me up when 2 of the 3 are fighting against each other in the same ring.
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Dillian Whyte COLUMN: Deontay Wilder is a ‘s***house’, my response to Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz Jr verdict
Deontay Wilder has ducked once again. If people don’t believe he’s running from the big fights by now, then I don’t know what to tell them.
He’s fighting Luis Ortiz again because he’s a s***house. It’s the easiest of fights for him.
Ortiz is a fake bogeyman. His best win by far was over Bryant Jennings who has been knocked out by my next opponent, the unbeaten Oscar Rivas. There’s this myth that the ancient Ortiz is avoided but the reality is that he has turned down multiple offers to fight me. I even have some sympathy for Anthony Joshua as Ortiz turns down fights and then waits until the opponent has another fight arranged before claiming that they are avoiding him. He rejected over $7million to face AJ this coming Saturday. I guarantee he’s getting a lot less than that for the Wilder rematch. It makes no sense.
After Wilder beat Dominic Breazeale, Ortiz somehow ended up in the ring and looked old, frail and confused. After hanging around for a few minutes looking lost, he was helped out of the ring by his carers and was overheard talking to himself in Spanish: “Where am I? Who are all these people? What are they doing in my house?”
https://talksport.com/wp-content/upl...60&quality=100
Wilder has already beaten him and he knows he’ll beat him even quicker this time. What’s the point of fighting an old aged pensioner again? It’s just cruel.
Wilder previously told me that “I’m going to make you wait two years to fight me and there’s nothing you can do about it”. I’ve been WBC number one and silver champion for 575 days now but he is allowed to continue dodging me. How can you be number one and not get that fight with the champion for that long? Tell me, what is the point of the rankings?
Wilder has been WBC champion for nearly four-and-a-half years and he’s only fought two mandatory challengers in that time, both of them undeserving and cherry-picked and who lasted less than a round each. Something is badly wrong there. He acts like he calls the shots with the WBC and can say and do as he pleases.
I want Wilder bad, especially after all of this nonsense. After all the time I’ve spent chasing the WBC belt, I want that above all else.
Tyson Fury has been spouting off again, calling me a ‘bum’ and now saying he’s not interested in fighting me.
He’s the one who called me out in the first place so there’s no way that he can pull out now – whatever he says in public. He asked for the Diamond belt and the WBC have agreed to put it on the line, so there can be no more excuses.
He made the demands to the WBC and he’s got what he wanted. So let’s get it on in the Autumn, after I have dealt with Rivas on July 20.
Fury likes to say he will do this, he will do that, he will knock me out. Well, this is a chance for him to prove to people all the things he has been saying. I’m 100% confident that I’ll put him to sleep. Is he the Gypsy King or the Gypsy Coward?
His trainer, Ben Davison, says I’m not the toughest fight for Tyson Fury. Who the hell is Ben Davison? He got lucky. He’s just a yes man. He does whatever Tyson Fury wants him to and makes him feel a certain type of way. He’s more a fluffer than a trainer. Don’t get me wrong, Ben’s a nice guy but I just don’t think he has enough experience to control Tyson.
Peter Fury was the real taskmaster and the real grafter. He gave Tyson the discipline and got him to a certain place in his career. Davison just swooped in and stole Peter Fury’s years of hard work. Davison hasn’t improved Tyson at all. He’s still doing the same things he was taught by his uncle.
We all know Tyson has his broadcast deal with ESPN and Top Rank’s Bob Arum has previously claimed that Fury’s next three fights are going to take place in America. Well, me vs Fury is a massive fight. I’m sure they would make an exception to have that take place in the UK. If not, I’d be happy to fight him in the US or anywhere, anytime, on any TV channel.
I’m also delighted to announce that the IBC (Imaginary Boxing Commission) have just confirmed that their Super Lineal Champion Title is going to be on the line too when I face Tyson!
Tyson, stop talking rubbish, and let’s go baby!!
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/5...jr-tyson-fury/
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Wilder is to blame for all this.
Fighting a drug cheat 52 year old man again..Let’s hope Wilder gets ironed out in 3 rounds.
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Wilder pitched this as 'all the controversy needs to be set right' or something along those lines. Not sure what he means by that.
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Wilder pitched this as 'all the controversy needs to be set right' or something along those lines. Not sure what he means by that.
Probably the controversy that he got a long break after getting hurt in their first fight.
I’m not that interested in a rematch, but I will say that Wilder is very brave to take the rematch.
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Where am I? Who are all these people? What are they doing in my house?”
The IBC
Never realised Whyte was such a funny bloke (:
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Rumor is contracts have been signed for
Wilder v Ortiz II
AND ALREADY SIGNED FOR
Wilder v Fury II
F me this guy just lines up fights if true. I don’t like him but F you have to respect him, again, if true(unlike other HWs)
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Rumor is contracts have been signed for
Wilder v Ortiz II
AND ALREADY SIGNED FOR
Wilder v Fury II
F me this guy just lines up fights if true. I don’t like him but F you have to respect him, again, if true(unlike other HWs)
If that is true, I respect that a lot.