Boxing Fans Rationalization Theory

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I took a cursory look around the Internet and didn't find anything on this... so I'll just throw it out there myself.


TitoFan's Boxing Fans Rationalization Theory:

"The list of reasons and/or excuses found and/or created by boxing fans to justify a devastating upset loss by a champion grows proportionately (and sometimes exponentially) in accordance to the time elapsed after the fight."


Before continuing, I'll add some relevant facts here for clarification. First... I like Joshua as a heavyweight champion, and definitely think he can come back to regain his championship. (He'll need a serious mental reset, though). Second... I've stated that I don't feel Joshua quit. He was soundly beaten and was in no shape to continue. Plain and simple. Joshua himself has offered no excuses (this one is key to remember as I expand on my theory). In fact, Joshua was very magnanimous in defeat.

Now to my theory.

The list began slowly, but has picked up steam. As far as I can tell, the following is a current list of excuses as to why Joshua lost to Ruiz (who sadly gets the short end of the stick, because.... according to my theory..... in about a month's time, Ruiz will not have won at all). ;D

Let's see.... we have stuff like....


AJ suffered a concussion in sparring before the fight.
It was the new surroundings. His first time in Madison Square Garden.
He's practicing Muslim and it was the fasting that did him in.
Panic attack in the dressing room.
Lack of steroids in the system.
Something was wrong with Joshua before the fight.


FFS..... if Ruiz hadn't won that fight, he'd probably be the worst heavyweight challenger in history considering how enormously the deck was stacked against Joshua. ;D



Yeah... yeah... this is a boxing forum and of course its purpose is to talk about fights. Just adding a little something to it. ;)



(BTW..... had Ruiz flattened Wilder instead..... would we still have a similar list?)

The last point should really make people think. Is it about what is or about how they feel

Look, I am hardly a Joshua fanboy but something was clearly amiss out there, especially with the pre fight oddness. It just wasn't normal.

By my calculations, by next week it'll be discovered that Joshua had a secret meeting several weeks ago with a long lost distant cousin, who introduced AJ to Ahimsa, a non-violence form of yoga.

The week after that rumors will surface that in the days leading up to the fight, Joshua was abducted by aliens, who as part of their human experiments sapped AJ of his strength.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tHy1IbJLrg


Which stage of grief are we at then? Denial? Denying that AJ could be beaten by Ruiz....you know, just beaten like AJ was fine and fought dumb and got beat, we're (boxing fans as a whole) denying that just happened?

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

(BTW..... had Ruiz flattened Wilder instead..... would we still have a similar list?)

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If he had lost in the same fashion and there were so many things that just looked wrong or out of place then definitely.

So I guess next expect...

2. Anger - That no good worthless AJ or Ruiz ruined everything!

3. Bargaining - If AJ could only get the right trainer and be 100% focused

4. Depression - he could have been great!

5. Acceptance - Well he is what he is, no changing that.

People that I have spoke with (outside of the interwebz) do accept it, yeah he didn't look right but he was easy beat and there was no controversy at all, I've long said that AJ getting beat might do him good but I wasn't expecting it to come in a 7 round beat down.

Never been a fan of him but it still shocked me.

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Originally Posted by Batman

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

(BTW..... had Ruiz flattened Wilder instead..... would we still have a similar list?)

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If he had lost in the same fashion and there were so many things that just looked wrong or out of place then definitely.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

(BTW..... had Ruiz flattened Wilder instead..... would we still have a similar list?)

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To be honest if Ruiz Flattened Wilder , I wouldn't be over surprised . YES, EVEN BEFORE WHAT I NOW KNOW.

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

To be honest if Ruiz Flattened Wilder , I wouldn't be over surprised . YES, EVEN BEFORE WHAT I NOW KNOW.

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Everyone assumes Wilder has a really weak chin. He has been stopped before in the amateurs, he's been hurt before, he's very lean so lean he looks frail. So no I don't think people would be surprised if he got stopped, but let me ask you this....


If Wilder took the punches from Ruiz and seemingly wasn't phased by them....would you be surprised at that? He took some good shots from Ortiz.

I think we all know it was the Drake curse

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Look, I am hardly a Joshua fanboy but something was clearly amiss out there, especially with the pre fight oddness. It just wasn't normal.

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What was the pre fight oddness, I didn't think much looked amiss there, I was a good few cans in though :S

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Originally Posted by palmerq

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Look, I am hardly a Joshua fanboy but something was clearly amiss out there, especially with the pre fight oddness. It just wasn't normal.

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What was the pre fight oddness, I didn't think much looked amiss there, I was a good few cans in though :S

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People are pointing to this as confirmation of a concussion or panic attack, he certainly doesn't look full of confidence and certainly looks fucking nervous or even tired.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMcCarthy_/s...75496732221441

Well he doesn't have the steely eyed stare of.....

The Mullet Boxer
https://coubsecure-s.akamaihd.net/ge...2355_00032.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UTmfFLCKErY/hqdefault.jpg

It is getting a little bit silly and Ruiz is getting a banana boatload of discredit and disrespect because some cannot wrap their heads around a super star fighter not being all he was made out to be on a given night. Sorry folks, I've gone to bat for AJ pretty much from day 1..but he flat out got his ass whipped. Andy Ruiz jr aka Butterbean (fark off Stephen A Smith) aka 'some guy' aka Fat boy aka that likable Mexican kid with the moobs aka sloppy also ran aka..Andy Ruiz Jr did it.

Wanna know who 'had something wrong with him' look up Daniel Franco out of Riverside Ca. Now there's a guy legitimately fed to the wolves by a greedy Promoter Jay Z and can't even pay a fraction of medical bills. By all accounts Joshua is sound of mind and body and hasn't stopped talking since he crashed the interview of Ruiz to say "it's his night" :cwm13:. Post tests turn out well? Rematch on course in the works? AJ not wearing a helmet and eating liquid dinners? All great news. Now lets just admit that on that particular night the best man, the most prepared man won. Period :sheep:

AJ lost badly, once the fight starts there are no excuses. More interested in if he can make adequite adjustments for the rematch

If this were Lennox Lewis, then adjustments can be made and implemented. I don't see Joshua having that deep down meaness and spite that is the essential ingredient, not aggression.

In a rematch, if Joshua can avoid wading in and keep the distance, then it'll be points and a borefest.

If Joshua gets through rematch with a win, then he could come back stronger assuming he fights a lot more often to improve. 2 fights a year doesn't improve a fighter if he need to rebuild.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I think we all know it was the Drake curse

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That was my favorite! Of all places i read it on FOX. They have a series dedicated to this. From Connor, AJ, next up Raptors.