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Is it possible for a 41 year old Pac-Man to fight and beat a prime Spence end of 2019/early 2020?
If he’s not retiring then why not go out with a bang?
Mayweather rematch is never happening.
Roach or Arum won’t let him fight Crawford.
No money in a Jeff Horn rematch..lol
Amir Khan could be a possibility?
What tactics or style will he need to beat a big welterweight in Spence..bearing in mind that Thurman, Garcia and Crawford have fought better opposition than Spence.
No I do not think Pac Man could beat Spence. He still is a top welterweight fighter and was surprised he beat Thurman as I did not think he still had it in him. That also may be more about Thurman being inactive and not being as good as I thought he was. :)
Either way Spence is too good/big/better/younger for Manny now.
There’s always a chance, but Spence is too much. Pacquiao is used to being the aggressor. He could bully Thurman pretty well but even then, Thurman had his moments. Spence would knockout Pacquiao at this point. He wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure.
A few things.
1)No, and he probably won’t fight him because of it
2)I think Arum would make PAC/Crawford now in a heartbeat. Crawford/PAC wasn’t not made to protect Crawford.(apologies for the wording)
I wouldn't even want to see that fight. Spence is too much at this stage of his career and from their fighting styles, I can see Manny catching a real beating. He's too old for that type of punishment. I still think Manny's a force, I just cant picture a positive outcome for him in this one.
Nah, I think you're bulling spence up a bit and not giving pac the credit he deserves, pac has just beaten thurman hasn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by ez396979@yahoo.com
You'd never bet against Spencer but you never know
Off the top I'd say just cannot see it and in a way want bigger newer things for Spence. But the legacy of Manny is cemented and they may very well roll this out should Spence hammer Porter. You never ever sleep on experience and pride when coming off the schooling..imo..like Manny gave Thurman. Thing is Spence strikes me the more diverse fighter right now and may have the best of both worlds v Manny. Spence on the backfoot would see Manny would have to shoot in with his combos, still has some speed, but be left in the brutal wheelhouse of Spence. He may very well land more than Spence would like early on but Spence has power that sits on a guy and Manny isn't exactly hard to miss in spots and he'll be covering up back to ropes when Spence pressures forward. I just overthought it. No Manny should let sleeping dogs lie and not rush into that buzz saw. Spence is a couple levels above the last few guys Manny has beat when it comes to self awareness, genuine confidence and the round by round ability..and willingness..to remove a guy from his senses.
As much as we all seem to rate Spence..his resume is no better than Thurman or Garcia.
Porter has been beat by Thurman, Brook and arguably beat in his last fight...Spence beat a post GGG Brook with a broken eye socket.
Spence needs to have a hell of of a 2020 to properly convince us that he’s the top dog at 147.
An old past it Pac would be the best opponent that Spence has fought to this point...Spence does want the big fights but if he doesn’t fight Crawford within 12 months then he needs to leave PBC.
Top dogs at 147 are PAC, Crawford and Spence.
Pac is already a legend and HOF and to have a crack at Crawford or Spence for his last fights will cement it even more.
I love Spence bodywork and style of fighting but there’s no escaping the fact that he has the weakest resume out of the 3.
Spence “sparring match” with Floyd is the most talked about thing about Spence career..there’s only so many times we can keep asking that question and demanding he fights the toughest guys in the division.
It’s either Crawford or PAC next for Spence or he (or Al Haymon) is wasting our time.
Spence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Every fighter that PAC fights now is bigger and younger than him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
All I’m saying is that putting PAC in with a Danny Garcia or Jeff Horn rematch is a weak choice for a guy that’s coming of a big win.
Name me a fighter in the 147 division right now that will put up a better fight against Crawford or Spence at this stage?
PAC just beat Thurman and needs a fight (last fight?) that will push him even further to put on a good show.
You asked if Pac Man can beat Spence I said no.Quote:
Originally Posted by impEvery fighter that PAC fights now is bigger and younger than him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
All I’m saying is that putting PAC in with a Danny Garcia or Jeff Horn rematch is a weak choice for a guy that’s coming of a big win.
Name me a fighter in the 147 division right now that will put up a better fight against Crawford or Spence at this stage?
PAC just beat Thurman and needs a fight (last fight?) that will push him even further to put on a good show.
Who should Pac Man fight next is another question. I agree take on Crawford but it probably will be Khan.
No, he can't.
He wasn’t looking for the knockout until the end and Mikey took his shots really well. An unpopular opinion of mine is that Mikey would beat Pacquiao too. Too quick and accurate. I think Mikey would even give prime Pacquiao trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by impSpence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
You sure? Mikey was way out of his weight and league.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHe wasn’t looking for the knockout until the end and Mikey took his shots really well. An unpopular opinion of mine is that Mikey would beat Pacquiao too. Too quick and accurate. I think Mikey would even give prime Pacquiao trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by impSpence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Spence is too young and too big. I dont think it would be some pretty clinic like most others. Spence is already has 4.5 inches on Manny, so its easy for him to make weight and then rehydrate up to 160 or so, negate manny's power (which isn't great at welter) and then maul him by walking him down behind the jabs and throw counters with him and rake the body when he's on top of him. (a replay of the brook fight--you can land shots on Spence, but if you cant hurt him, hes gonna have all night to walk you down. All the better if your a shade slower, a bit smaller, or your legs are going/ have gone)
The same Mikey Garcia that could have fought Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sure? Mikey was way out of his weight and league.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHe wasn’t looking for the knockout until the end and Mikey took his shots really well. An unpopular opinion of mine is that Mikey would beat Pacquiao too. Too quick and accurate. I think Mikey would even give prime Pacquiao trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by impSpence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Mikey had a choice between Loma and Spence and decided he would rather loose against Spence as he has the weight excuse..
Mikey still got beat easily and looked overweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by impThe same Mikey Garcia that could have fought Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sure? Mikey was way out of his weight and league.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHe wasn’t looking for the knockout until the end and Mikey took his shots really well. An unpopular opinion of mine is that Mikey would beat Pacquiao too. Too quick and accurate. I think Mikey would even give prime Pacquiao trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by impSpence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Mikey had a choice between Loma and Spence and decided he would rather loose against Spence as he has the weight excuse..
Haha. That was Arum’s fault not Mikey’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by impThe same Mikey Garcia that could have fought Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sure? Mikey was way out of his weight and league.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHe wasn’t looking for the knockout until the end and Mikey took his shots really well. An unpopular opinion of mine is that Mikey would beat Pacquiao too. Too quick and accurate. I think Mikey would even give prime Pacquiao trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by impSpence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Mikey had a choice between Loma and Spence and decided he would rather loose against Spence as he has the weight excuse..
I don't think Pacquiao would of been able to knock out Garcia eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by impSpence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Too small... too old... too outgunned. Respect to the ATG Manny, but this would be too high a mountain to climb at this point.