Greatest fighter alive today
So, who do you think is the best fighter alive right now (September 2019)?
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Loma is and Sugar Ray Robinson would agree.
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Do you mean the greatest fighter who is alive counting those who currently aren’t boxing? If so, I would say Robert Duran probably.
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How are we defining greatness? If we are talking who had the largest impact and “played the best game” I would give that to Floyd. If we say who had the greatest accomplishments in terms of historical significance for me it comes down to Manny and BHOP. If we are talking most complete and versatile I give it to Ray Leonard. If we say who wins the most mythical match ups best version vs best version I give it to Roy or Ray (edging Duran and Whitaker). Most skilled is between Floyd, Loma, Usyk, Whitaker and Ray Leonard. Most electrifying and exciting to watch is Tyson in his prime.
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Doesn't it become a moot point trying to define the greatest ever? Particularly as each era passes, there are often exceptional fighters amongst them.
As more and more exceptional fighters realize their legacy in each era, the list gets bigger.
Isn't it better to talk have your personal favourite group of greatest fighters?
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Loma is and Sugar Ray Robinson would agree.
So you are saying Loma is better than SRL, better than Duran, better than Hearns? Even though he hasn’t fought the best fighter in any division.
I mean, why ever challenge yourself, apparently fighting greats like SRL did gets you moved down.
Boxing fandom is so fricken broken. I mean, at no point will Loma be as good as prime Roy, at no point will Loma have beaten greats like SRL did. But f those things, 13-1 and he’s the greatest. F me!
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Master
Loma is and Sugar Ray Robinson would agree.
So you are saying Loma is better than SRL, better than Duran, better than Hearns? Even though he hasn’t fought the best fighter in any division.
I mean, why ever challenge yourself, apparently fighting greats like SRL did gets you moved down.
Boxing fandom is so fricken broken. I mean, at no point will Loma be as good as prime Roy, at no point will Loma have beaten greats like SRL did. But f those things, 13-1 and he’s the greatest. F me!
Relax Ronny baby. You have to take into consideration It was only @Master that posted it. ;D;D
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Master
Loma is and Sugar Ray Robinson would agree.
So you are saying Loma is better than SRL, better than Duran, better than Hearns? Even though he hasn’t fought the best fighter in any division.
I mean, why ever challenge yourself, apparently fighting greats like SRL did gets you moved down.
Boxing fandom is so fricken broken. I mean, at no point will Loma be as good as prime Roy, at no point will Loma have beaten greats like SRL did. But f those things, 13-1 and he’s the greatest. F me!
X has put "So, who do you think is the best fighter alive right now (September 2019)?"
Loma is the best fighter alive today.
The rest have gone at a tangent because the thread is so open interpretation.
Untense, relax and stop taking life so seriously.
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Larry , the Easton Assasin Holmes. The man whose only 2nd to the Brown Bomber Joe Louis for most successful consecutive title defenses, the man had 20 ! Yes 6 short of Louis but who the hell is gonna beat that these days? BTW how many did The Klichko's have?
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Did anyone mention foremen
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Larry , the Easton Assasin Holmes. The man whose only 2nd to the Brown Bomber Joe Louis for most successful consecutive title defenses, the man had 20 ! Yes 6 short of Louis but who the hell is gonna beat that these days? BTW how many did The Klichko's have?
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Some records here you can look through.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heav...and_statistics
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Fatboxingfan
Larry , the Easton Assasin Holmes. The man whose only 2nd to the Brown Bomber Joe Louis for most successful consecutive title defenses, the man had 20 ! Yes 6 short of Louis but who the hell is gonna beat that these days? BTW how many did The Klichko's have?
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Some records here you can look through.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heav...and_statistics
It’s hard to count Wlads reign because he wasn’t a clear number one until his brother retired. And it’s hard with title defenses now compared to before when there was only one title. It’s easier to defend a title without having to beat the best.
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Master
Loma is and Sugar Ray Robinson would agree.
So you are saying Loma is better than SRL, better than Duran, better than Hearns? Even though he hasn’t fought the best fighter in any division.
I mean, why ever challenge yourself, apparently fighting greats like SRL did gets you moved down.
Boxing fandom is so fricken broken. I mean, at no point will Loma be as good as prime Roy, at no point will Loma have beaten greats like SRL did. But f those things, 13-1 and he’s the greatest. F me!
X has put "So, who do you think is the best fighter alive right now (September 2019)?"
Loma is the best fighter alive today.
The rest have gone at a tangent because the thread is so open interpretation.
Untense, relax and stop taking life so seriously.
So Loma is better than Floyd, SRL, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, I could go on and on and on. No matter what Criteria you use , it ain’t happening.
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Loma will need five more classic fights to rise to the level of a sugar Ray or a hagler
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Master
Loma is and Sugar Ray Robinson would agree.
So you are saying Loma is better than SRL, better than Duran, better than Hearns? Even though he hasn’t fought the best fighter in any division.
I mean, why ever challenge yourself, apparently fighting greats like SRL did gets you moved down.
Boxing fandom is so fricken broken. I mean, at no point will Loma be as good as prime Roy, at no point will Loma have beaten greats like SRL did. But f those things, 13-1 and he’s the greatest. F me!
X has put "So, who do you think is the best fighter alive right now (September 2019)?"
Loma is the best fighter alive today.
The rest have gone at a tangent because the thread is so open interpretation.
Untense, relax and stop taking life so seriously.
The thread title probably threw some for a loop. Obviously you meant greatest fighter alive today, who's STILL fighting. If that's the case, I guess Loma is as good a guess as any.
But if we're to include former fighters who are still alive today.... I'm pretty sure you'd put at least SRL and Duran way ahead of Loma. Loma has a ways to go before reaching those heights.
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@x you better clarify and stop starting ambiguous threads which get Ron all heated up and angry.
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I meant it to include retired former fighters of any age, who are still alive. I.e. Comparing generations
If it was only active boxers, then it just becomes simply s P4P argument.
Personally, I would possibly go for Manos de Piedra.
He is remembered for his exploits in the 1980's, but he was slightly past his prime then and fighting guys bigger than him. He was easily the best fighter on the planet in the 1970's
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I meant it to include retired former fighters of any age, who are still alive. I.e. Comparing generations
If it was only active boxers, then it just becomes simply s P4P argument.
Personally, I would possibly go for Manos de Piedra.
He is remembered for his exploits in the 1980's, but he was slightly past his prime then and fighting guys bigger than him. He was easily the best fighter on the planet in the 1970's
Then you should have entitled the thread greatest fighter alive today. ;D
I would say Tommy Hearns, he beat Leonard at Super middleweight and was a better p4p fighter. He smashed Duran too.
What you say about that Ronnie?
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Hearns is definitely up there, but I didn't name him as I am biased ;)
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Hearns.... Hagler.... Leonard.... Duran. All light-years more accomplished than Loma at this point in time.
..... and all still alive today. ;D
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Hearns.... Hagler.... Leonard.... Duran. All light-years more accomplished than Loma at this point in time.
..... and all still alive today. ;D
OK I got it wrong. :p