Have British tabloids gone all "National Enquirer" on us?

Just stumbled upon the screaming headlines about Andy Ruiz Jr. planning to show up leaner and meaner for the AJ rematch. They even had the obligatory "before and after" pictures, where frankly the guy in the "after" picture doesn't even look like Andy facial-wise. Well.... maybe a little.... but this guy looks literally anorexic next to the "real" Andy Ruiz. I thought "oh... wtf.... it's probably these media vultures trying to make a buck", so I looked for some other headlines. Surprisingly, there are a few carrying the same story and pictures. They're all British.

What's next.... a 3-headed baby born from an Earthling woman impregnated aboard a UFO?

Here's the link from one of them.


https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/6...nthony-joshua/

Boxing news: Andy Ruiz Jr shows off dramatic body transformation as he warns Anthony Joshua he will be ‘lighter, faster and more powerful’



Yeah..... right. :rolleyes:

First of all..... last we saw of Andy, he was living it up eating all the burritos he could handle. No talk about getting slimmer and challenging AJ to a bodybuilder competition, as well as a boxing rematch.

Second of all..... "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Obese, rotund Andy beat the shit out of AJ in their first meeting. (As a side note, I still get a kick out of seeing the blubber bouncing around as Andy is beating AJ from pillar to post in their 1st fight).



If, on the outside chance that this is true, if....... Andy has really lost all that weight..... he could be in trouble. Vast body changes after you've proven you can win with your original physique just can't be a good idea.

On the other hand..... it's probably a very late April fools' joke.

Andy ruiz did indeed post that to his Instagram page, has the correct tattoo on his right arm too. It's a good pose to make him look slimmer though and their could of course be some NASA style altering on the photos!

I wouldn't trust any photo in this day and age. We can age, we can subtract years, alter physicality, all sorts. I saw an interview a few weeks ago and it is the same old Ruiz. He is deceptive as he is chunky and his feet are not great, but when in range his handspeed is awesome. I am supporting him. I don't like the location though.

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His hand-speed will shine again this time. AJ has heart not really into it anymore. He's dating and young man only thinks with 1 of 2 heads, draining out his energy for the training. He can not stay away from that young girl and will look gaunt and drained out at the opening bell. The Mexican guy will do it faster this time he, is working on even more faster hand-speed. AJ will be over-trying to make up for the last embarassment, and firing over his head. Then Ruiz will Short hook him. Johsha will retire and make movies in Italy with Marvellous.

British tabloids will go all “nationalistic”, do not know what “national enquirer” truly means.

They will bring up any story to sell this fight from AJ not being “right” to Ruiz being “lucky” either way they will fervently support our AJ.

It's hardly a tabloid or in the least but National Enquirer like. It is the exact same story carried on sites from both sides of the pond. 'Media Vultures' ? They're all British.

What's next.... a 3-hing posteaded baby born from an Earthling woman impregnated aboard a UFO?"


What a lame excuse for an opening post. He doesn't look anorexic at all and losing a stone in the time frame is not exactly earth shattering. Talk about look for a reason to have your nonsense prejudices confirmed and your outrage topped up.

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Originally Posted by Master

British tabloids will go all “nationalistic”, do not know what “national enquirer” truly means.

They will bring up any story to sell this fight from AJ not being “right” to Ruiz being “lucky” either way they will fervently support our AJ.

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;D ;D Don't they all.

"National Enquirer" is/was the name of a supermarket tabloid famous for its sensationalist headlines in order to sell more "newspapers." The name became synonymous with outlandish, unbelievable (false) news.

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It's hardly a tabloid or in the least but National Enquirer like. It is the exact same story carried on sites from both sides of the pond. 'Media Vultures' ? They're all British.

What's next.... a 3-hing posteaded baby born from an Earthling woman impregnated aboard a UFO?"


What a lame excuse for an opening post. He doesn't look anorexic at all and losing a stone in the time frame is not exactly earth shattering. Talk about look for a reason to have your nonsense prejudices confirmed and your outrage topped up.

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FFS, get a hold of yourself man. Quit proving everyone right on here who says/knows you go off like a firecracker with or without provocation. Stop taking everything so seriously.

Shit, you're like a windup toy..... and everyone knows where the winder is. :D



"Talk about look for a reason to have your nonsense prejudices confirmed and your outrage topped up."


Geez... lighten up and take a Valium or something. Since when have I expressed any "nonsense prejudices" toward you or anything you stand for? Quit being such a f*cking baby, for crying out loud. ;D

"Outrage"?? It's a simple post about the media trying to exaggerate any weight loss Ruiz might have undergone in order to grab sensationalist headlines.


You've already shown to the forum how utterly sensitive and "itchy trigger finger" you are on every subject imaginable.

Try however, to keep your outrage (how's that for reflecting, sport ;) ) on the non-boxing boards.

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British tabloids will go all “nationalistic”, do not know what “national enquirer” truly means.

They will bring up any story to sell this fight from AJ not being “right” to Ruiz being “lucky” either way they will fervently support our AJ.

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;D ;D Don't they all.

"National Enquirer" is/was the name of a supermarket tabloid famous for its sensationalist headlines in order to sell more "newspapers." The name became synonymous with outlandish, unbelievable (false) news.

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We had our Sunday Sport which had some silly and over the top headlines.

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Andy ruiz did indeed post that to his Instagram page, has the correct tattoo on his right arm too. It's a good pose to make him look slimmer though and their could of course be some NASA style altering on the photos!

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I thought about the pose too. Clever bit of photography there... ;D

Still... you look at the "before and after" pictures and it just looks like blatant headline grabbing to me.

I wouldn't be surprised to find Ruiz as shocked as anyone to see/read about his "new slender self."

The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

Fat Andy won the first fight convincingly. Slimming down considerably is just adding an X factor into the rematch that IMO needn't be there.

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Fat Andy won the first fight convincingly. Slimming down considerably is just adding an X factor into the rematch that IMO needn't be there.

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If he's in better condition it's not going to hurt. He'll have somebody who knows what they're doing cooking his meals, a strength and conditioning coach, an armed guard on the fridge. A proper training camp compared to last time. The knowledge he already beat Joshua convincingly and can take a big punch from him. A neutral venue. A mentally damaged Joshua who may well be happy to lose and retire with a gigantic Saudi payday in his pocket. I can't remember a rematch for an upset where so much was in favour of the upsetter.

Might be trying to counter all the 'he has yet to hit camp' rah rah that we saw recently but he'll always be a chunk and has proven he can make it work. Joshua would be making a mistake to focus on it one way or another and needs to worry more about his own footwork and mobility. You can go all out under a week and drain to what he looks like there in water weight alone as it's mainly the face. His extra rolls and breakdancing boobs were secondary to his already top hand speed, timing and a pretty good engine. Drop his arms and have a few cervezas with a massive dinner and he's the big ol chubber who knocked the stuffing out of Joshua. Agree with Miles the location blows.

Buster has dipped a smidgen below 250lb once or twice in his entire career (not all scales/stages/weigh-ins give the same reading). He's already said he'll comfortably meet his optimum of 250-265.

Bear in mind he was never a big puncher before AJ. Why? Cause Buster could make light-heavyweight let alone cruiser.

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The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

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If you want to go skint.

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The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

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If you want to go skint.

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I don't bet money on sports so I won't go skint. I think he's got a hell of a chance to win again though. Joshua isn't going to learn how to fight inside any better since last time and the little tub will definitely get inside and land those short hooks. Could easily make him quit again.

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The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

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He didn’t get a neutral venue. It’s more than twice as expensive to fly from Los Angeles and nearly 4 times as long. He agreed to a venue DAZN didn’t want(another loss for that sinking ship) and he didn’t want. It’s irrelevant, location won’t determine the victor. But it was calculated, and not by Ruiz. London would have been simpler for Ruiz. If you’ve ever spent 20 hours flying you know.

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The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

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He didn’t get a neutral venue. It’s more than twice as expensive to fly from Los Angeles and nearly 4 times as long. He agreed to a venue DAZN didn’t want(another loss for that sinking ship) and he didn’t want. It’s irrelevant, location won’t determine the victor. But it was calculated, and not by Ruiz. London would have been simpler for Ruiz. If you’ve ever spent 20 hours flying you know.

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It's a neutral venue. Flight times don't come into it. It's not 80 000 deafening Joshua fans at Wembley which was an option for Joshua. Instead he went for a gigantic Saudi cheque which gives Ruiz the benefit of a neutral venue.

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The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

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I don't bet money on sports so I won't go skint. I think he's got a hell of a chance to win again though. Joshua isn't going to learn how to fight inside any better since last time and the little tub will definitely get inside and land those short hooks. Could easily make him quit again.

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If you were interested in sports betting you'd quickly go skint if you believe Buster is favourite, however, I understand the reasoning from your perspective. It's also a shame as 3/1 for Buster will look monumental if you're right.

However, I don't agree Joshua quit and the fact he's been stopped and avenged losses bodes well for his mental state. Joshua's downfall was initiating an inside fight after flooring him, even after that Buster didn't really do much apart from punch with him, from the amateurs to Whyte and Povetkin he's been caught with left hooks trying to hook on the inside, maybe he's finally learnt his lesson?

Stop the fight when Ruiz is stretched nobody believes the outcome. "Lucky punch," nope, sure did turn the fight on it's head though. :)

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The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

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He didn’t get a neutral venue. It’s more than twice as expensive to fly from Los Angeles and nearly 4 times as long. He agreed to a venue DAZN didn’t want(another loss for that sinking ship) and he didn’t want. It’s irrelevant, location won’t determine the victor. But it was calculated, and not by Ruiz. London would have been simpler for Ruiz. If you’ve ever spent 20 hours flying you know.

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Why would Ruiz care about the cost of flights and accommodation? Who exactly do you think is fronting that?

And you're saying Al Haymon did a terrible job for Ruiz? He's his manager/"adviser," right? They chose Saudi over Cardiff (Wembley was never viable for December).

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Fat Andy won the first fight convincingly. Slimming down considerably is just adding an X factor into the rematch that IMO needn't be there.

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If he's in better condition it's not going to hurt. He'll have somebody who knows what they're doing cooking his meals, a strength and conditioning coach, an armed guard on the fridge. A proper training camp compared to last time. The knowledge he already beat Joshua convincingly and can take a big punch from him. A neutral venue. A mentally damaged Joshua who may well be happy to lose and retire with a gigantic Saudi payday in his pocket. I can't remember a rematch for an upset where so much was in favour of the upsetter.

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Still... if Ruiz goes overboard in this slimming down business he's risking changing some things considerably for their rematch. It was the sheer volume and power of punches from tubby Ruiz the first time out that knocked out Joshua. Showing up for the rematch like the winner of a Jenny Craig weight loss competition isn't going to do him any favors. His condition in the first fight was good enough to take care of Joshua. Overdoing the weight loss could impair the effect his punches have on Joshua. Slimming down some is ok, but from some accounts, it seems he may be overdoing it. It's an additional X factor you just don't want to incorporate. Again... if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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The same photographs have made it into papers all over the world as far away as New Zealand. The main photograph looks like a slimmed down Ruiz to me, nothing fake looking about it. He's obviously taking the rematch seriously, he's managed to get a neutral venue and he won the first fight clearly, no lucky punch that did it. Joshua no matter what he thinks or believes will never be the same mentally again. You've got to make Ruiz the favourite for the rematch.

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If you want to go skint.

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I don't bet money on sports so I won't go skint. I think he's got a hell of a chance to win again though. Joshua isn't going to learn how to fight inside any better since last time and the little tub will definitely get inside and land those short hooks. Could easily make him quit again.

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If you were interested in sports betting you'd quickly go skint if you believe Buster is favourite, however, I understand the reasoning from your perspective. It's also a shame as 3/1 for Buster will look monumental if you're right.

However, I don't agree Joshua quit and the fact he's been stopped and avenged losses bodes well for his mental state. Joshua's downfall was initiating an inside fight after flooring him, even after that Buster didn't really do much apart from punch with him, from the amateurs to Whyte and Povetkin he's been caught with left hooks trying to hook on the inside, maybe he's finally learnt his lesson?

Stop the fight when Ruiz is stretched nobody believes the outcome. "Lucky punch," nope, sure did turn the fight on it's head though. :)

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I agree Joshua thought it was all over, tried to walk through him and got caught with one punch that did a lot of damage. Most likely he keeps his distance during the rematch and Ruiz has trouble getting near him. He'll definitely get to him at some point though.

Lack of a live enthusiastic crowd will benefit Joshua very much. If he planned to play backfoot jabber in NY or CA he'd be booed to the point of deafness within 3 rounds. It's not like Ruiz is a dumb one gear clod who forgets he got caught with the left hook and had to climb off the deck. He also shook off the immediate follow up long best right hand AJ could manage in the moment.

So in answer to the thread title..No. A photo from Ruiz own Social Media and a story reported all over the world of Ruiz losing some weight is hardly and "National Enquirer". Will the weight loss help him? Maybe, it probably can't hurt. It is about belief more than anything. If AJ can hold his nerve, stick to the gameplan and keep Ruiz on the end of his jab, in the centre of the ring, he will get the opportunity to finish it.

It wasn't merely a story of Ruiz "losing some weight". It was a sensationalized story of Ruiz looking comparatively anorexic (complete with "before and after" pictures), just to get readership and grab headlines. And yes... it was reported all over the world... but unfortunately the very first few publications I saw that ran with the story were British. Nothing wrong nor accusatory about that.... just an observation. It just seemed odd to me that in the comparative blink of an eye, Ruiz went from gorging on burritos and pizza, to now looking like the winner of a "Biggest Loser" competition. It makes for sensationalist press... but not much more.

As to the matter itself, it all depends on the amount of weight we're talking about. It certainly didn't seem like all that extra blubber bothered Ruiz in the least when he was steamrollering Joshua in MSG. It also didn't seem like Ruiz was the ultra-sensitive type who would care much about people poking fun at his weight. Personally I would've left well enough alone. He's made a pretty good career so far, while looking like the Mexican version of the Pillsbury dough boy. Don't see the sense in making major adjustments in weight before a rematch of a fight you've won in devastating fashion.

That thing about Ruiz being looking anorexic is so fake that must be put on the category of sensationalist press.

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That thing about Ruiz being looking anorexic is so fake that must be put on the category of sensationalist press.

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Yes yourself and Tito are both guilty of being sensationalist.

It came from Ruiz account and that is hardly looking anorexic. ;D

Mental the knots people will tie themselves up in

It was a comment. You're the only one who took offense, as you do across the board with your invented enemies. Put a sock in it, and STFU.

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It was a comment. You're the only one who took offense, as you do across the board with your invented enemies. Put a sock in it, and STFU.

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I didn't take offense though did I? just pointed out how eager you were to have your daily outrage ;D Seems I was right. Enemies ? You guys ;D

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It was a comment. You're the only one who took offense, as you do across the board with your invented enemies. Put a sock in it, and STFU.

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I didn't take offense though did I? just pointed out how eager you were to have your daily outrage ;D Seems I was right. Enemies ? You guys ;D

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You're the only one who took offense. Calling it a lame post and accusing me of "nonsense prejudices" and "topped off outrage" is taking offense in my book. Call it what you will.

You were the ONLY one who responded in such fashion. A fact that conveniently goes unmentioned or unrecognized by you because it upsets your tiny, carefully arranged apple cart.

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It was a comment. You're the only one who took offense, as you do across the board with your invented enemies. Put a sock in it, and STFU.

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I didn't take offense though did I? just pointed out how eager you were to have your daily outrage ;D Seems I was right. Enemies ? You guys ;D

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You're the only one who took offense. Calling it a lame post and accusing me of "nonsense prejudices" and "topped off outrage" is taking offense in my book. Call it what you will.

You were the ONLY one who responded in such fashion. A fact that conveniently goes unmentioned or unrecognized by you because it upsets your tiny, carefully arranged apple cart.

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I'd rather have a juicy pear

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It was a comment. You're the only one who took offense, as you do across the board with your invented enemies. Put a sock in it, and STFU.

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I didn't take offense though did I? just pointed out how eager you were to have your daily outrage ;D Seems I was right. Enemies ? You guys ;D

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You're the only one who took offense. Calling it a lame post and accusing me of "nonsense prejudices" and "topped off outrage" is taking offense in my book. Call it what you will.

You were the ONLY one who responded in such fashion. A fact that conveniently goes unmentioned or unrecognized by you because it upsets your tiny, carefully arranged apple cart.

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I'd rather have a juicy pear

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Either one goes well with your flat calm and peace lovin self.

"carefully and tightly arranged appalcart"

That is a pretty funny image right there, but I'll hoping that were all kidding around to have fun and pass the times.

Anthony Joshua is a bum.
Deonte Wilder would bury him.