I need some laughs, defend it. And defend the trend.
If you all want to know why boxing is dying on ESPN and DAZN could sell a subscription to a shopping addict, it’s right here
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I need some laughs, defend it. And defend the trend.
If you all want to know why boxing is dying on ESPN and DAZN could sell a subscription to a shopping addict, it’s right here
https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachen...d-full--143620
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/10...ight-champion/
"Lomachenko upgraded to WBC Franchise lightweight champion"
That's right, Mauricio. Continue in your daddy's crooked footsteps. He'd be mighty proud of you. I swear these bozos won't be happy until they finish driving boxing's credibility into the ground.
Phony, made-up belts..... franchise tags..... can't accuse these guys of not doing enough to f*ck up boxing for us fans.
This is the problem with having numerous alphabet orgs free to make up their own rules. Sort of "make it up as you go" type of thing.
Anything to continue making it easier for fighters NOT to fight each other. :appl:
Didn't see your thread, as I was posting mine. They should probably be merged.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Don’t let fighters off the hook. They don’t have to accept this nonsense. “I won this title and nobody is taking it from me” or “okay”, which sounds like a fighter?
I'm not. It's just that my dislike of these Monopoly games with boxing belts by the WBC has passed the point of nausea. I'm pissed they can just get away with it.
Fighters (some) are going to get away with whatever the orgs let them get away with. Canelo is a poster child for that. Now it seems Loma is happily playing the role of beneficiary also.
Haney got promoted to regular champ and now is the youngest WBC champ in history (if I remember correctly). It’s a joke to become a champ off of n elevation of the real champ.
And this is why I don’t take belts seriously. I never know who has what title because it means nothing to me
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Originally Posted by powerpuncher
The joke is even bigger than that, because truthfully................ there should be no need to "elevate" someone who's already champ! WTF is this nonsense? :vd:
They're just making room for more (cough) "champs", to accomplish their own twisted agenda.
There must be a good analogy somewhere. I wish Teddy Atlas was here weighing in on this. He'd probably find something. ;D
This is how Charlo got his belt.
Exactly. It's the very fact fans think this means anything which is the problem. There's not a fighter in the modern era who hasn't been stripped, it's just the organisations have become more and more slick by creating "regular" and "diamond" and "franchise" and what not.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I remember back when the first diamond or super belt came out some years back. I thought it was cool until I realized that it wasn’t a special one time only belt. I assumed that it was made for a specific purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterExactly. It's the very fact fans think this means anything which is the problem. There's not a fighter in the modern era who hasn't been stripped, it's just the organisations have become more and more slick by creating "regular" and "diamond" and "franchise" and what not.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Like I always say, the only reason I mention belts is to hope to make good fights. So I can give the excuse that fighter X needs to fight fighter Y because they both hold a belt. In reality, I just want them to fight and have no need for the belt.
Let's be honest. Belts are no longer the valued symbol of a division champion. The belt has been turned into a tool. A tool to manipulate fights and fighters themselves. Only casuals and gullible fans still swallow the blue pill thinking that belts actually mean anything. The WBC is at the forefront of this belt-as-a-manipulation-tool practice. You can argue they have perfected the craft.... inventing scores of belts with fancy names.... bestowing belts at will to their favored fighters.... and manipulating rankings and matchups that can or can't occur. Among the factors that are bringing down boxing, this one cannot be ignored.
The thing is that the belts do the exact opposite of what a championship belt was invented to do which is show who is the best. In order to do that, the best have to fight each other. With so many different belts, it makes fighters not fight each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Odd troubling trend. I don't put too much stock in these glorified paper weights called trinkets aka belts but has to suck for the newly crowned champion. I mean how does that process work. You get called into a small office filled with Ikea furniture surrounded by your people with El Hefe Suliaman on the speaker phone congratulating you. Or do you just recieve a text when you're barely out of bed one morning.."Sup Devin just got a text from some wbc dude, you're the champ now!!! Congrats bro, hit me back". Leaving Haney to fist pump in the bathroom mirror, all alone, and start blowing himself up on social media. These guys don't even get to leap up center ring..or mouth 'and the neeeew' as Lennon or Buffer read the results. They don't even get a Yooo Adrienne we did it!!
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
LMAO! Great mental picture there. ;D
"..... fist pump in the bathroom mirror...." indeed ;D
All in all pretty pathetic and sad when you think about it.
It's an odd thing the loss of a defining career moment. Guys are being handed second hand trinkets now with the enthusiasm once reserved for when they just dropped them on the scales. The wbc desperately needs to create the Tin-foil Meh belt.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
LMAO! Great mental picture there. ;D
"..... fist pump in the bathroom mirror...." indeed ;D
All in all pretty pathetic and sad when you think about it.
Lomachenko named WBC Franchise champion
Lightweight: Franchise Champion Vasiliy Lomachenko (Ukraine) – World Champion Devin Haney (U.S.A.)
Lomachenko was named WBC Franchise champion today, and No. 1 ranked WBC interim champion Devin Haney of the U.S.A. was elevated to world champion. The fight on November 2 between No. 5 ranked Javier Fortuna of Dominican Republic and Jesus Cuellar of Argentina was approved as a final eliminator to determine the mandatory challenger.
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Wow! Breaking news! Loma named franchise champion!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Serious question - why do you always copy and paste repeat stories into threads? Do links not work depending on the device used?