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In what round will Wilder stop Ortiz?
This time Ortiz may be too slow, too fat, and too old to do what he did last time, but his ring smarts and vicious uppercuts still make him very dangerous. Wilder, meanwhile, knows that he can do major damage to the Cuban, so mentally he has that edge going in. I see a short period of feeling out and then the boom and attendant KO will be lowered on Ortiz either via a straight right or a windmill shot. Kong will then amble off into the sunset with that juicy early retirement check and a reputation—like Chuvalo, Quarry, and Shavers-- for having been one of the best fighters who never won a world championship.
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I think it will be within a few rounds
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between 3 and 6 I reckon, odds are shit though so I doubt I'll be having a bet on it
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For his own sake and salability would want to be much sooner and without being near ko'd himself this time. Could prove fun if he rushes it and may walk into something. But the whole 'feel' of Ortiz this time is just off and looks much heavier last I saw him. I say 3-4 rounds would be window for Wilder and I think he'll keep it smart with the set up. But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
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Spicoli
But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
Sadly, I probably will. Not because I think it's PPV worthy (that bar has dropped immensely over the years)... but because I don't have DAZN and have missed quite a few fights already. Anyway, my wife works for the local cable company and we get these things half price, so that makes me feel a little bit better. ;D
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Before the end of the sixth round
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No later than 5 I think it will him in the 4th
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
Sadly, I probably will. Not because I think it's PPV worthy (that bar has dropped immensely over the years)... but because I don't have DAZN and have missed quite a few fights already. Anyway, my wife works for the local cable company and we get these things half price, so that makes me feel a little bit better. ;D
You're still not chipped in on the Dazn cattle train eh ;D? It's odd, I was realizing something last month..I've actually missed more cards and fights over the last year or two than in the last couple of decades. We've gone from routine year round schedule of a minimum mix of ESPN, FS1, HBO, Showtime, Univision maybe a Spike tv to just a random cable card and two iffy espn+ and Dazn Apps that vary both in live quality and time delay. This fight should be on live Fox cable prime time on a busy Saturday night. It would do great if invested in but today everyone want's their money up front. Hey hug the wifey and salute the connections ;D
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Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
Sadly, I probably will. Not because I think it's PPV worthy (that bar has dropped immensely over the years)... but because I don't have DAZN and have missed quite a few fights already. Anyway, my wife works for the local cable company and we get these things half price, so that makes me feel a little bit better. ;D
You're still not chipped in on the Dazn cattle train eh ;D? It's odd, I was realizing something last month..I've actually missed more cards and fights over the last year or two than in the last couple of decades. We've gone from routine year round schedule of a minimum mix of ESPN, FS1, HBO, Showtime, Univision maybe a Spike tv to just a random cable card and two iffy espn+ and Dazn Apps that vary both in live quality and time delay. This fight should be on live Fox cable prime time on a busy Saturday night. It would do great if invested in but today everyone want's
their money up front. Hey hug the wifey and salute the connections ;D
Serious question - If this fight does great with some "investment" why don't these ultra successful billionaire TV companies and millionaire promotional outfits do it? How come one of your American networks didn't buy the rights to Inoue-Donaire? Taylor-Prograis? Canelo-Kovalev? Golovkin-Dere? Joshua-Ruiz? Why did PBC/Fox make Spence-Porter PPV? Manny-Thurman PPV? Why did ESPN make Crawford-Khan PPV?
I think Tito answered the question, however, I know you begrudgingly subscribe to DAZN, is it for the consistent content or specfic fights?
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
Sadly, I probably will. Not because I think it's PPV worthy (that bar has dropped immensely over the years)... but because I don't have DAZN and have missed quite a few fights already. Anyway, my wife works for the local cable company and we get these things half price, so that makes me feel a little bit better. ;D
You're still not chipped in on the Dazn cattle train eh ;D? It's odd, I was realizing something last month..I've actually missed more cards and fights over the last year or two than in the last couple of decades. We've gone from routine year round schedule of a minimum mix of ESPN, FS1, HBO, Showtime, Univision maybe a Spike tv to just a random cable card and two iffy espn+ and Dazn Apps that vary both in live quality and time delay. This fight should be on live Fox cable prime time on a busy Saturday night. It would do great if invested in but today everyone want's
their money up front. Hey hug the wifey and salute the connections ;D
Serious question - If this fight does great with some "investment" why don't these ultra successful billionaire TV companies and millionaire promotional outfits do it? How come one of your American networks didn't buy the rights to Inoue-Donaire? Taylor-Prograis? Canelo-Kovalev? Golovkin-Dere? Joshua-Ruiz? Why did PBC/Fox make Spence-Porter PPV? Manny-Thurman PPV? Why did ESPN make Crawford-Khan PPV?
I think Tito answered the question, however, I know you begrudgingly subscribe to DAZN, is for the consistent content or specfic fights?
I probably belong to a dying breed in boxing. I've held off from DAZN mainly waiting to hear the glowing reviews from fellow boxing fans. So far it's been a mixed bag. Still begrudge fukking HBO for having abandoned boxing for whatever reason they saw fit... and still holding on to the slim chance that they might someday have a change of heart. Sadly, I've missed some pretty good fights. Thank goodness for ESPN and Fox who still provide us with some good boxing... but have to wonder how long it'll be before they follow suit with HBO. Haven't seen a Showtime card in years... and if they are out of boxing, they certainly didn't announce it like HBO did. In the end, I might be one of the last with twisted arm to throw in the towel and say "fukk it".... and ante up for DAZN like the rest of boxing fandom world. :(
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
Sadly, I probably will. Not because I think it's PPV worthy (that bar has dropped immensely over the years)... but because I don't have DAZN and have missed quite a few fights already. Anyway, my wife works for the local cable company and we get these things half price, so that makes me feel a little bit better. ;D
You're still not chipped in on the Dazn cattle train eh ;D? It's odd, I was realizing something last month..I've actually missed more cards and fights over the last year or two than in the last couple of decades. We've gone from routine year round schedule of a minimum mix of ESPN, FS1, HBO, Showtime, Univision maybe a Spike tv to just a random cable card and two iffy espn+ and Dazn Apps that vary both in live quality and time delay. This fight should be on live Fox cable prime time on a busy Saturday night. It would do great if invested in but today everyone want's
their money up front. Hey hug the wifey and salute the connections ;D
Serious question - If this fight does great with some "investment" why don't these ultra successful billionaire TV companies and millionaire promotional outfits do it? How come one of your American networks didn't buy the rights to Inoue-Donaire? Taylor-Prograis? Canelo-Kovalev? Golovkin-Dere? Joshua-Ruiz? Why did PBC/Fox make Spence-Porter PPV? Manny-Thurman PPV? Why did ESPN make Crawford-Khan PPV?
I think Tito answered the question, however, I know you begrudgingly subscribe to DAZN, is for the consistent content or specfic fights?
I probably belong to a dying breed in boxing. I've held off from DAZN mainly waiting to hear the glowing reviews from fellow boxing fans. So far it's been a mixed bag. Still begrudge fukking HBO for having abandoned boxing for whatever reason they saw fit... and still holding on to the slim chance that they might someday have a change of heart. Sadly, I've missed some pretty good fights. Thank goodness for ESPN and Fox who still provide us with some good boxing... but have to wonder how long it'll be before they follow suit with HBO. Haven't seen a Showtime card in years... and if they are out of boxing, they certainly didn't announce it like HBO did. In the end, I might be one of the last with twisted arm to throw in the towel and say "fukk it".... and ante up for DAZN like the rest of boxing fandom world. :(
Serious question - did you not have any interest to watch any of those fights on a stream or replay? Or you just wasn't as interested as you are Wilder-Ortiz?
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Oh... I'd happily watch replays of most of those fights, with the notable exception of Canelo-Kov, since that dog-and-pony show was just the culmination of what all knowledgeable boxing fans predicted. Particularly interested in Inoue-Donaire, even though lately I've been sidetracked by other issues. I make no effort to make Wilder-Ortiz into something bigger than it really is... but will gladly watch it given my own personal dropoff in big fights seen lately.
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Spicoli
For his own sake and salability would want to be much sooner and without being near ko'd himself this time. Could prove fun if he rushes it and may walk into something. But the whole 'feel' of Ortiz this time is just off and looks much heavier last I saw him. I say 3-4 rounds would be window for Wilder and I think he'll keep it smart with the set up. But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
I agree
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I have some issues with DAZN, but it easily puts on the best fights. It’s a no brainer for me to have it. It seems to not only have the best fights but quantity also.
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
But..no way I'm laying down PPV money for this thing.
Sadly, I probably will. Not because I think it's PPV worthy (that bar has dropped immensely over the years)... but because I don't have DAZN and have missed quite a few fights already. Anyway, my wife works for the local cable company and we get these things half price, so that makes me feel a little bit better. ;D
You're still not chipped in on the Dazn cattle train eh ;D? It's odd, I was realizing something last month..I've actually missed more cards and fights over the last year or two than in the last couple of decades. We've gone from routine year round schedule of a minimum mix of ESPN, FS1, HBO, Showtime, Univision maybe a Spike tv to just a random cable card and two iffy espn+ and Dazn Apps that vary both in live quality and time delay. This fight should be on live Fox cable prime time on a busy Saturday night. It would do great if invested in but today everyone want's
their money up front. Hey hug the wifey and salute the connections ;D
Serious question - If this fight does great with some "investment" why don't these ultra successful billionaire TV companies and millionaire promotional outfits do it? How come one of your American networks didn't buy the rights to Inoue-Donaire? Taylor-Prograis? Canelo-Kovalev? Golovkin-Dere? Joshua-Ruiz? Why did PBC/Fox make Spence-Porter PPV? Manny-Thurman PPV? Why did ESPN make Crawford-Khan PPV?
I think Tito answered the question, however, I know you begrudgingly subscribe to DAZN, is it for the consistent content or specfic fights?
It's a Fox aka Haymon PBC ppv. For the last year or two they have been putting PBC cards on regular Fox TV on some Saturday nights, primetime 'free' tv. The investment I'm speaking of is it's everything promotion should clamor for. A major heavyweight championship fight of explosive proportions on every sports bar screen across the States as Fox was once one of the 3-4 basic cable channels 'free' to anyone with a tv. Gather many many new fans or regulars who refuse to-cannot dole out $75 (since they just did that for Spence v Porter :-X) but instead they're tucking it away with the anchor of a hefty price tag anchor and it's already assumed it will end the same way so many will pass on it.
The 800 lb gorilla in the room is also that those billionaire TV companies won't risk competing with the monstrous cash cow that is College Football on a Saturday. Hell, DAZN won't even compete with a UFC card and instead strings fans out with a 'historical achievement' headed by their premier franchise fighter and p4p boxer. I know people run on about Dazn 'taking over boxing' but thats my point..it's not a good thing for fans when options and outlets are dried up. Everyone else left..Arum and PBC now put anchors aka PPV on everything remotely relevant with a name to keep up and stubborn long in the tooth fans like myself end up with longer lists of fights they need to watch on replay..hopefully..rather than upcoming live events to look forward to. DAZN is a good thing with the regularity for sure. I've been on since Oct of 2018. But the stream is literally a problem in some areas, the delays and depending on locale and internet provider you miss a lot and at times cannot even be sure you're watching live minute to minute. And to be completely honest Dazn is becoming a bit of a whore with the gimmickries and side events like that celebrity boxing trash-truck Hearn and the boys pulled last weekend. The presentation and salivating by commentators on that whole whorey thing was just embarrassing.
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Ortiz already complaining about Wilder's punching.....watch Ortiz starch him it'll be just our luck as fans. We never get anything nice :mad:
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ortiz needs to come out balls to the wall, bomb wilder out early. the longer it goes the harder the task of him winning becomes. a couple of good fights on the card
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https://i2.wp.com/fightnews.com/wp-c...ut02.jpg?ssl=1
Looks like he's feeling rather POSITIVE about the upcoming fight.
Over/under on failed PEDs test???
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Dark Lord Al
Round 7 for me.
Once again I thankyou , Fenster did you make any bunce on this fight ?
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Dark Lord Al
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Dark Lord Al
Round 7 for me.
Once again I thankyou , Fenster did you make any bunce on this fight ?
Yes a little, I backed the over/under on rounds... good call mystic Al.
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Re: In what round will Wilder stop Ortiz?
Luis Ortiz has described the moment his dream of becoming a heavyweight champion disappeared.
Ortiz, otherwise known as ‘King Kong’, was ahead on the scorecards when Deontay Wilder landed an incredible punch which the Cuban was unable to recover from.
Up to that point Ortiz was ahead of the score cards having boxed brilliantly for six rounds.
“This is boxing. I said that one of us was going to get knocked out. I knew it wasn’t going to go twelve rounds,” he explained.
https://talksport.com/wp-content/upl...60&quality=100
“This was a great fight. I thought I was clearly winning. I got caught with a big shot and I have to give Deontay Wilder a lot of credit.”
Describing the exact instant the devastating blow made contact with his face, Ortiz added: “I was clear-headed when I hit the canvas.
“When I heard the referee say seven I was trying to get up. But I guess the count went a little quicker than I thought.
“I knew my movement was giving him problems. Also, I landed some big shots and I thought I had him hurt. I thought I was up by the count and could have continued.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/6...ury-klitschko/
