South Korea #1 OECD Suicide Leader

There is definitely something wrong in South Korea. More so than anywhere else on earth except maybe Japan.

"Suicide is everywhere,” says South Korean author Young-ha Kim, referring to modern Korean society, in his op-ed for the The New York Times. Countless others have documented what some call “the scourge of South Korea” – the fact that people of all classes, ages, and genders are committing suicide at exceptionally high rates.

The country’s profound economic growth has brought along major social changes. One change has been a sharp increase in the suicide rates among large segments of the population, including adolescents and the elderly. Korea’s suicide rate, attributable to its high-stress society, is among the highest in the world.

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There is definitely something wrong in South Korea. More so than anywhere else on earth except maybe Japan.

"Suicide is everywhere,” says South Korean author Young-ha Kim, referring to modern Korean society, in his op-ed for the The New York Times. Countless others have documented what some call “the scourge of South Korea” – the fact that people of all classes, ages, and genders are committing suicide at exceptionally high rates.

The country’s profound economic growth has brought along major social changes. One change has been a sharp increase in the suicide rates among large segments of the population, including adolescents and the elderly. Korea’s suicide rate, attributable to its high-stress society, is among the highest in the world.

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Suicide is the 3rd most common cause of death in South Korea; on average, 44 people commit suicide every day. South Korea has the highest suicide rate among the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) nations, which include countries such as Germany, the U.K., and Japan. It is the only OECD country whose suicide rates have increased since the 1990s. For years, social scientists have puzzled over why this economically successful state has such startlingly high suicide rates.

SICK, SICK, SICK!!!

South Korea has the highest suicide rate in the world for children ages 10-19 and extremely high elderly (60+) suicide rates. For children, most suicides are caused by stress relating to education. Korean children have a school year of 11 months and often spend over 16 hours a day at school and at afterschool programs called hagwons. All this studying is done to get into the top three universities in South Korea, all of which are known for their miniscule acceptance rates.

What a spiritually sick place. Totally devoid of spirituality. Only just obsessive materialism.

South Korea functions as a SHINING counterexample to the prevailing belief that happiness is related to the economic success of a society. As the economy grew, the stress in South Korean society increased, as did the rates of depression and suicide. The takeaway here is that countries must take an active hand in providing for the health of their citizens – both physical and mental. Countries like South Korea are economically but not socially viable, and a country needs to be both in order to be sustainable. South Korea needs to take decisive action to ensure that its citizens are safe from the biggest threat of all: themselves.

Fake on the outside and rotten on the inside

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What a spiritually sick place. Totally devoid of spirituality. Only just obsessive materialism.

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Says the Frenchman who moved to America. A place where if you add up the opiates, alcohol and guns probably has a far higher suicide rate. The man who drinks himself to death is still killing himself as is the person who becomes obese eating himself to death.

I guess America has never had a Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, Monroe, or even an ahem....Jeffrey Epstein either.

Apples and oranges. Suicide happens. Dog meat and now suicide? One would think you are developing an interest in one place above others. Every country has its good and bad.

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What a spiritually sick place. Totally devoid of spirituality. Only just obsessive materialism.

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Says the Frenchman who moved to America. A place where if you add up the opiates, alcohol and guns probably has a far higher suicide rate. The man who drinks himself to death is still killing himself as is the person who becomes obese eating himself to death.

I guess America has never had a Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, Monroe, or even an ahem....Jeffrey Epstein either.

Apples and oranges. Suicide happens. Dog meat and now suicide? One would think you are developing an interest in one place above others. Every country has its good and bad.

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You'rs wrong. Too close to the evil to the smelling it's.

bottom line is those who obsess about money and their financial futures and obsess over their 401k and retirement plans and try to be frugal for their entire lives meet this fate whereas those who spend abundantly from the abundance that Allah has blessed them with are the true free spirits and the thought of suicide will never cross their minds.

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bottom line is those who obsess about money and their financial futures and obsess over their 401k and retirement plans and try to be frugal for their entire lives meet this fate whereas those who spend abundantly from the abundance that Allah has blessed them with are the true free spirits and the thought of suicide will never cross their minds.

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Excuse my language here Mr Frenchie, but you are talking like an idiot. You started a thread talking about a girl who killed herself and yet listen to yourself above. Hara was in an abusive relationship where her partner recorded her secretly, he attempted to blackmail her, and then found himself criminalized. That puts a lot of stress on a person. It has fuck all to do with pension plans. She made the wrong decision to kill herself IMO, but many people do kill themselves be it the writer who blows his brains out or drinks himself to death. It often has little to do with pension plans, but the life is suffering difficulties that can set upon a person. It happens.

"Fake on the outside and rotten on the inside" = Mr Frenchie pretending to care about something he does not.

That sounds like a very sick society to me that her partner would do that to her and that she would react in that manner

Thank you for confirming how freaky and unnatural that society is, and that's before even mentioning plastic surgery

don't be so disingenuous. The pension plan comment is about that high pressure South Korean society trying to force all their children to get into the top three universities so they can all be really rich and white-collar executives.

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That sounds like a very sick society to me that her partner would do that to her and that she would react in that manner

Thank you for confirming how freaky and unnatural that society is, and that's before even mentioning plastic surgery

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You seem to ignore the RKelly and Wacko Jacko types of your new found culture and they are just the famous ones.

And as for competition to achieve, that is the same in any society. What on earth to do you think Ivy League or Cambridge and Oxford are all about?

This thread is a troll one. Have a good day, Frenchie. Go and eat some horse.

In 1993 I had the opportunity to visit South Korea for about 3 weeks. Many many parents told me that they would never ever accept that their children become bakers or mechanics or own a car wash things of that nature in the blue-collar category. They all thought their children would be MBA executives okay? that is unsustainable pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Sick people when a baker or a barber is considered embarrassing to be

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In 1993 I had the opportunity to visit South Korea for about 3 weeks. Many many parents told me that they would never ever accept that their children become bakers or mechanics or own a car wash things of that nature in the blue-collar category. They all thought their children would be MBA executives okay? that is unsustainable pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Sick people when a baker or a barber is considered embarrassing to be

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You are a compulsive liar. My brother in law is an independent baker running his own operation and does very well. He employs 3 other people and has invested well. Many people encourage their children to go into cuisine and baking and I actually teach a group learning that very trade. I don't think anyone has considered it embarrassing. My sister in law is likewise a hair stylist and once you have your own little set up going on, it pays well too. I am not sure you really saw very much reality in your '3 weeks' as these ideas exist mostly in your head and these trades can pay very well. The jobs people do tend to be the same kind of jobs people do in any developed country and most people are not exactly killing themselves.

Worry more about your own life rather than some Kpop singer that you didn't even know existed until the last 24 hours.

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In 1993 I had the opportunity to visit South Korea for about 3 weeks. Many many parents told me that they would never ever accept that their children become bakers or mechanics or own a car wash things of that nature in the blue-collar category. They all thought their children would be MBA executives okay? that is unsustainable pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Sick people when a baker or a barber is considered embarrassing to be

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You are a compulsive liar. My brother in law is an independent baker running his own operation and does very well. He employs 3 other people and has invested well. Many people encourage their children to go into cuisine and baking and I actually teach a group learning that very trade. I don't think anyone has considered it embarrassing. My sister in law is likewise a hair stylist and once you have your own little set up going on, it pays well too. I am not sure you really saw very much reality in your '3 weeks' as these ideas exist mostly in your head and these trades can pay very well. The jobs people do tend to be the same kind of jobs people do in any developed country and most people are not exactly killing themselves.

Worry more about your own life rather than some Kpop singer that you didn't even know existed until the last 24 hours.

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Miles it does seem South Korea has a very high suicide rate, perhaps it’s lack of diversity.

The only thing I would concede is that fresh into an industry you start low, but over time and with experience and then know how once you get yourself set up even those jobs you are critical of can pay decently or even exceptionally well. The woman who cuts my hair does it on her own, basically owns the set up, and 10 hours a day will be pulling in between 10-100 dollars an hour depending on how busy and kind of treatment. Weekends are packed thus I never go. I actually go before opening to make sure I never wait as just five minutes means waiting. For me 8 dollars for a 5 minute cut and a quick wash. Easy money. Add that up over the yea and it is decent. Who is looking down on her exactly? Not the people getting a good efficient service, that is for sure.

People are not especially cruel and know if their child is not cut out to be an engineer, they will guide in another direction. That is actually a big difference as every young person has an idea of where they will go. On the whole I certainly did not have any of that and that simply isn't good for you. To have a skill whether it pays a lot or not is kind of important as you do need to be earning something.

Every one (like bff beaner does) needs to go on the dole or some kind off assistance until the system can no longer sustain it and it all comes crashing down. Then we rebuild in the proper way.

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In 1993 I had the opportunity to visit South Korea for about 3 weeks. Many many parents told me that they would never ever accept that their children become bakers or mechanics or own a car wash things of that nature in the blue-collar category. They all thought their children would be MBA executives okay? that is unsustainable pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Sick people when a baker or a barber is considered embarrassing to be

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You are a compulsive liar. My brother in law is an independent baker running his own operation and does very well. He employs 3 other people and has invested well. Many people encourage their children to go into cuisine and baking and I actually teach a group learning that very trade. I don't think anyone has considered it embarrassing. My sister in law is likewise a hair stylist and once you have your own little set up going on, it pays well too. I am not sure you really saw very much reality in your '3 weeks' as these ideas exist mostly in your head and these trades can pay very well. The jobs people do tend to be the same kind of jobs people do in any developed country and most people are not exactly killing themselves.

Worry more about your own life rather than some Kpop singer that you didn't even know existed until the last 24 hours.

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Miles it does seem South Korea has a very high suicide rate, perhaps it’s lack of diversity.

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There is diversity, but you wouldn't notice due to the majority of migrants being other Asians, mainly Chinese and others.

When we talk about suicide we are talking about a very small percentage of the population. Every case is different. It might sound harsh but I prefer a society where people choose to take their own lives rather than the lives of others. Both are extreme and undesirable, but at least one does not kill people who do not want to die. I know that sounds a bit odd, but better for a mass shooter to top himself than shoot 20 on the way down. Plus with drugs and alcohol the US suicide rate is very high except you call it internal bleeding or accidental or what have you. It was still reckless behavior resulting in death.

The point bring this thread has brought up the name of a woman who killed herself because of nothing to do with what the OP was ranting about. She was in an abusive relationship and was likely tormented from that and goodness knows what else, but there is mental health support if you seek it. I would prefer this not to happen, but it does and happens anywhere.

the woman killed herself precisely for what I was quote-unquote ranting about. South Korea is a very sick emotionally sick society that needs to rely heavily upon plastic surgery and fake out with personalities while in the words of the woman herself who just committed suicide you have to put on a fake show for the world while inside you are rotting in pieces. What is the result of such a fake existence? Suicide of course. Name another oecd country with a higher suicide rate in South Korea.

I guess you call that being a liar. you blindly defend South Korea when you know it is a plastic country with plastic people highly materialistic and yes indeed people push their children 16 hours a day in schools why so they can be a baker? You know damn well they're pushing their kids 16 hours a day so they can go to the top three universities in Seoul to be white collar executives. Even the poorest families in the lowest income neighborhoods send their children to hagwons until 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. at night. That's 16 hours a day and they're not sending them to English hag ones and math had ones and science hagwons in order for them to be Baker's or hair stylists and you know it. Quit blindly defending South Korea.

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Every one (like bff beaner does) needs to go on the dole or some kind off assistance until the system can no longer sustain it and it all comes crashing down. Then we rebuild in the proper way.

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I guess Beanz is a bit like the baker or hair stylist in that he is working at his own arty thing and in time doing that can well pay off or it might not. For hair the pay sucks while you work at getting your license, but once you get your own place running and gain a reputation, it can be very good. Many of course give up before then. It is a hard job to stand all day or to get up at 4am and be a baker. Every job has its good and bad points and money is nice, but so is quality of life. All about choices and what you want.

You start somewhere and if you are good at what you do end up somewhere better. I certainly don't look down on the hairdresser who has a skill and initiative that means she will never need to go on the dole. It is all good. People will always demand a haircut. And lest we forget where Marco Pierre White began. You rise through luck and discipline.

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the woman killed herself precisely for what I was quote-unquote ranting about. South Korea is a very sick emotionally sick society that needs to rely heavily upon plastic surgery and fake out with personalities while in the words of the woman herself who just committed suicide you have to put on a fake show for the world while inside you are rotting in pieces. What is the result of such a fake existence? Suicide of course. Name another oecd country with a higher suicide rate in South Korea.

I guess you call that being a liar. you blindly defend South Korea when you know it is a plastic country with plastic people highly materialistic and yes indeed people push their children 16 hours a day in schools why so they can be a baker? You know damn well they're pushing their kids 16 hours a day so they can go to the top three universities in Seoul to be white collar executives. Even the poorest families in the lowest income neighborhoods send their children to hagwons until 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. at night. That's 16 hours a day and they're not sending them to English hag ones and math had ones and science hagwons in order for them to be Baker's or hair stylists and you know it. Quit blindly defending South Korea.

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Who exactly is rotting inside in pieces? Who is living a fake life? This is an individual who killed herself for reasons not entirely known, but they are her own reasons and that is what has happened. Were you a fan of hers?

It has no connection to people somehow frowning on bakers and hairstylists or worrying about pensions or this utter BS you have picked up as a Frenchman who needs Grammarly to communicate who has miraculously spoken to hundreds of parents during a period of ahem 3 weeks during your trip away from the slums of Baltimore. See any slums out here BTW? Where is this brilliant nation you appear to be seeking? It isn't America, it isn't South Korea, so wise Frenchie, what are your glorious picks?

I know for a fact that many parents are not doing what you say, but some do indeed push their kids. I have given you an example of an actual hairdresser, an actual baker, and I can give you many examples of people who have gone onto good Universities without needing Academies or any of that. Some people really are naturally smart, disciplined and scholarships abound to support them.

Tidy your room there in America with 70,000 opioid deaths alone in 2017. That puts it into perspective and does not include actual suicides, murders, and the old fashioned chronic alcoholism. The rates are not so different.

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bottom line is those who obsess about money and their financial futures and obsess over their 401k and retirement plans and try to be frugal for their entire lives meet this fate whereas those who spend abundantly from the abundance that Allah has blessed them with are the true free spirits and the thought of suicide will never cross their minds.

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But the lack of thought about these things is often WHY old people kill themselves. :rolleyes:

Huh! 🧟

I have read that these children are manufactured by the industry from a young age and locked away to rehearse for years before being launched to the public of South Korea.

They have to get plastic surgery done on them and are tied to strict contracts where they have to pay back the money invested in them before making of their own. This has been going on for years and the exploitation needs exposing.

Exactly. This needs to be exposed. Like the mental health issues in South Korea too. It is TABOO there to even MENTION the word psychiatrist.

However, the culture of silence around mental health extends to South Korean society at large. According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, South Korea has consistently had one of the highest suicide rates among developed countries, prompting its government to take steps to tackle the issue.

Euny Hong, the Korean-American author of The Birth of Korean Cool: How One Nation is Conquering the World with Pop Culture, tells Yahoo Lifestyle that the increasing pressures of being a K-pop star from their record labels and the public, combined with the stigmas around mental illness in South Korea, will continue to drive its idols over the edge.

I think Japan has a similar issue about suicides. They have issues anout loneliness and an aging population.

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I think Japan has a similar issue about suicides. They have issues anout loneliness and an aging population.

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Yes. Korea and Japan just about at the top of the list after Russia. They don't know how to have sex they have sex robots. Very sick kind of fetish societies.

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I have read that these children are manufactured by the industry from a young age and locked away to rehearse for years before being launched to the public of South Korea.

They have to get plastic surgery done on them and are tied to strict contracts where they have to pay back the money invested in them before making of their own. This has been going on for years and the exploitation needs exposing.

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This is a terrible thing and I consider the industry an exploitative one. It isn't so much about paying back what you borrowed, it is the parents who allow it and the industry that makes harsh demands. Kids should not be pushed into it and deluded into thinking it is amazing. It is tough, degrading, and cruel.

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Exactly. This needs to be exposed. Like the mental health issues in South Korea too. It is TABOO there to even MENTION the word psychiatrist.

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This is untrue too. There are mental clinics scattered around every city and every major hospital will have a psychiatry department and as you pass on the way to your own area find it is often pretty packed as you glance in. I do that as it is an area I find fascinating.

I know a plant manager who regularly consults with a clinic following a few issues with stress and panic. He talks quite freely about it and is someone responsible for many others who all know about it. He doesn't seem to find it very taboo. You are a generation out of date fats.

Korean Stress: RTD Launches Premiere of Suicide Epidemic in South Korea
11/26/2019, 1:19:42 AM

A developed economy, technology, a rich culture, a low crime rate - all this creates the image of paradise on earth. However, statistics show that everything is not quite right here: the Republic of Korea is one of the first in the world in the number of suicides. About why suicide became the main cause of death for young Koreans under 40 in the new RTD film “Korean Stress”.

The Republic of Korea tops the list of OECD countries (Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development) by the number of suicides. Every day in a country known worldwide for its developed economy, technology and pop culture, several dozen people voluntarily part with their lives. What is the cause of the suicide epidemic will tell the new film RTD "Stress in Korean."

And there is one more problem. It is a necessity to hold a face. In Korea, people are very worried if there is a bad opinion about them in society, ”says psychiatrist Lee Chun Hyun, RTD.

But that is not all. Koreans, in most cases, build an opinion about a person only according to external data. In a society in which, due to lack of time, even holidays are sheer stress, people look down on you if you are not dressed in a fashionable way.

One of the most striking examples of such a struggle is the Mapo Bridge of Seoul, which until 2012 was sadly called the Bridge of Suicides. The locals explained its notoriety not by ancient curses, but rather prosaically: Mapo is located in close proximity to Yoido, the financial district of the city.

But soon, the Seoul government teamed up with a number of psychologists and designers and turned the bridge into a "therapeutic zone." “I love you,” “Let's take a walk together,” “You look worried. Is everything all right? ”,“ Tomorrow the sun will certainly rise ”,“ Have you eaten today? ”,“ To bring those you miss ”are just some of the phrases on the parapets of the bridge. They add up to the dialogue that Mapo, as it were, leads with a passerby. In addition, round-the-clock surveillance was installed on the bridge, some of the poles are equipped with panic buttons, and rescue services are ready to be there almost immediately. This set of measures helped dramatically reduce the number of suicides on Mapo, which locals now call the "Bridge of Life."

Watch the film “Korean Stress” on the RTD website. @walrus @Master

Miles is a tall white man sorry I just can’t see him jumping off a bridge.

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Miles is a tall white man sorry I just can’t see him jumping off a bridge.

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Why did Beanzer have to influence PEOPLE to mention Miles' height and body type all the time? First lanky fuckers was trending, then Fenster banned Beanz for that vicious attack, now Beanz is influencing People again. Beanz, park that toss by the door.

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One of the most striking examples of such a struggle is the Mapo Bridge of Seoul, which until 2012 was sadly called the Bridge of Suicides. The locals explained its notoriety not by ancient curses, but rather prosaically: Mapo is located in close proximity to Yoido, the financial district of the city.

But soon, the Seoul government teamed up with a number of psychologists and designers and turned the bridge into a "therapeutic zone." “I love you,” “Let's take a walk together,” “You look worried. Is everything all right? ”,“ Tomorrow the sun will certainly rise ”,“ Have you eaten today? ”,“ To bring those you miss ”are just some of the phrases on the parapets of the bridge. They add up to the dialogue that Mapo, as it were, leads with a passerby. In addition, round-the-clock surveillance was installed on the bridge, some of the poles are equipped with panic buttons, and rescue services are ready to be there almost immediately. This set of measures helped dramatically reduce the number of suicides on Mapo, which locals now call the "Bridge of Life."

Watch the film “Korean Stress” on the RTD website. @walrus @Master

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Cool story, bro.

Cyber bullying, star suicides: The dark side of South Korea

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Miles is a tall white man sorry I just can’t see him jumping off a bridge.

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Why did Beanzer have to influence PEOPLE to mention Miles' height and body type all the time? First lanky fuckers was trending, then Fenster banned Beanz for that vicious attack, now Beanz is influencing People again. Beanz, park that toss by the door.

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Brock, I haven't even posted in this thread and yet here you are blaming me four times in one post for something Gandalf has always been quite open and proud of. Wally, even though he is a twat is hardly "mounting a vicious attack" by calling Gandalf a tall white man ;D

I've never even been to Korea, and don't know many Koreans ..... so I am as well qualified as many to have an opinion ;D

However, I do know many international students who study in the UK. I would think it's true that Asian (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) children are under more academic pressure than their Western counterparts. There is certainly a greater societal pressure to conform and 'fit in' which causes a great deal of cognitive dissonance amongst the population. I would guess (because I don't know for a fact) that underlying stress levels are high in those societies,

I do think there is an unpleasant culture in Korean entertainment, whereby women are abused, children are put under enormous pressure to make money and of General corruption and lack of morals. There have been several stories recently about stuff that is going on. Having done business with Korean companies, there is an openness to corruption and nepotism that is not the case with most Western companies.

However, the MeToo movement has exposed exactly the same thing being endemic in the West, perhaps even deeper and more pervasive.

In terms of this young girl who killed herself, that's a family tragedy that shouldn't be cheapened by people hanging their preconceptions on it to 'prove' a point. It is likely that there are many complex underlying reasons for her suicide that we will never know.