Don't think this has been done.
So with a gun to your head and your house and life savings on an outcome who would you go for. I'm still undecided but will pick mine right after I work out how to do a poll....
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Don't think this has been done.
So with a gun to your head and your house and life savings on an outcome who would you go for. I'm still undecided but will pick mine right after I work out how to do a poll....
AJ will win on points, using his height and reach advantage to keep Ruiz off him.
AJ will come in leaner and out box Andy but not take any unnecessary chances or risks to win a comfortable UD.
I don't know. Both men can hurt each other, both men have different strengths. I do think in range Ruiz has much quicker hands and is more dangerous, but then at distance Joshua can win rounds. I just don't know if Joshua has it in him to fight a 12 round distance fight without losing his concentration and getting drawn into something he doesn't want to. It is ironic that his strength is also his power, but the man he maybe needs to stop is better whenever it gets close. I can see Joshua tiring mid fight if it even gets there as his build is all muscle and that is wrong for a fighter. He will need more oxygen and struggle. Maybe he goes for it, maybe he plays safe, but either way Ruiz will land those quick hands at some point and knows he can get back up.
Don't know is not an option.
I said gun to your head which way do you go
Ruiz by KO. Could be shockingly early.
I go both ways, but I will go with Ruiz. I have a soft spot for stocky HW's with quick hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Joshua by spectacular highlight real KO. He is more than capable of it and Ruiz can be caught clean. Joshua need to feint, jab and then slide back. No overextending or stepping into the pocket. It is not that he cannot fight in close , the uppercut come hook combo that dropped Ruiz last time happened in close, but AJ's strength is in using that left jab to pop Ruiz head back and then to resist the impulse to step in an over commit with the straight right. Ruiz knows that if Joshua gets carried away with the overhand right early, he can nullify it and go to work. Joshua needs to be patient because being repeatedly smashed in the face with what look like markers from AJ is a sure fire way to allow Joshua the time and room to thrown combos and hooks and uppercuts later in the fight, that will get the job done for him. People seem to think that Ruiz has an inexhaustible supply of stamina just because he is not musclebound, but the reality is he still has to carry that weight around and the one thing that will make that harder is repeated head shots. Put simply he needs to outbox Ruiz, frustrate him, tie him up when he gets close, wear him down and then..and only then...throw those spiteful combos that earned him 21 KO's in 22 fights.
put your poll votes in then
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just seen there's no way of changing your mind in the poll
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Already did. What did you vote?
Ruiz KO
though there was a way of seeing who voted what - must have put wrong setting
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
There is a way to make it visible. If Master could find his arse with both hands he could maybe change it.
You have to click on the numbers to see who voted you dumb funkers. It is visible.
good grief you're rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I've gone AJ via KO but really I have absolutely no idea how I think it'll go
I'm going with Ruiz by KO. I think when he gets hit and buzzed again, its all going to come flooding back and panic is going to set in. Hes trimmed down and is doing more cardio. Whats he doing for his mind and spirit? His attitude towards change/ criticism could be more open even though I think he seems to be a decent guy.
I think this exchange is something he should be looking at and might come back to haunt him.. happened after the loss..
"In the aftermath of that fight, Lewis took to social media and was critical of Joshua's preparation for Ruiz, and he also felt the Olympic gold medal winner was better suited to part ways with longtime trainer, Rob McCracken.
During an on-demand special for Sky Sports, Joshua hit back.
"Lennox is a clown. I don't respect Lennox," Joshua said on AJ: The Untold Truth.
"Me and Lennox are not the same. My legacy is to sit back and enjoy the younger generation coming up, and not to be involved. Just to appreciate what it takes to get there. Lennox isn't like that. Me and Lennox are cut from a different cloth."
Joshua even shot back when it was discussed how Lewis left an impressive legacy - which prompted the once-beaten fighter to state: "So? So am I."
Lewis himself was shockingly upset twice in his career, with unexpected defeats at the hands of Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman. He avenged both of those losses."
https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...ct-him--141722
I’ve gone Joshua by KO, and I think it will be late, but I don’t say it with much confidence. I’ve gone for AJ merely because I think he’s capable of making the adjustments he needs to. There’s no guarantee of that though.
And I don’t want to underestimate Ruiz , because with a proper camp behind him , he should be even better. I actually think Ruiz beats Wilder and probably beats Fury. He’s already beaten AJ......... So why the fuck have I gone with AJ?? ;D;D;D
Tougher back and forth in my head as it nears and both have big mental what-ifs to overcome. Does Ruiz come in with an overinflated ego and confidence thinking all he has to do is bounce a few hooks off the dome of AJ. And Joshua has the massive ghost in the room of every fighter before who has suffered a ko loss entering a rematch. Two outcomes I see are Ruiz getting the duplicate TKO win because he's a smarter fitter :-X fighter given credit for and he's also learned he belongs. Now Joshua can also retool and utilize his natural gifts but I don't see it as simple as staying on the backfoot behind a long jab and trying to box all night. It's doable and he may very well boil down the pace and stink it out a bit but at some point he'll have to assert some hurt and come forward, on top of getting Andy high up rather than punching down on his crouch. I just thing again the hand speed and volume of Ruiz will be the difference. Joshua will have to be the thinker and I'm not close to being convinced of his footwork and defensive mobility over 12.
Ring expert picks below. Don't think I've ever seen it so divisive
https://www.ringtv.com/585466-fight-...3IamS-2SOioFjA
It is a very difficult result to predict. I think Anthony Joshua will win the knockout
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Ha! you talked yourself out of your own argument mate ;D
ruiz by ko in ten
Joshua UD.
Ruiz by KO then. I think once he lands it will be in bunches and Joshua will panic. He also tends to fade mid fight and I cannot see him sticking and moving for 12. He will get tagged. Ironically by not using power and boxing he will negate his own strength and get stopped. Ruiz is too fast to be engaged with but it will happen. Ruiz by stoppage in the second half as Joshua fades.
I think Joshua is too mechanical and muscle heavy for me. I think Ruiz has a bit of the Toney in him in that he is flabby, but hyper relaxed with very fast hands. He breaks fighters down. I rewatched the Parker fight the other week too and thought that was a dodgy decision. Ruiz doesn't really know defeat and the only time really hurt turned all Barrera on us like against Marquez that time. But sustained and messed up Joshua. That was no Lewis style flash stoppage but a round by round break down. That is surely hard for Joshua to swallow. No lucky punch but a beatdown.
I think the key for me is that Ruiz genuainly has a great chin, he got floored in the first fight and then took everything that Joshua hit him with .
He may go for the early KO, he may end up getting outboxed for a few rounds, however when the chips are down he can march forward throwing bombs and in an exchange he will stop Joshua.
Ruiz by stoppage.
I need to watch ruiz v Parker later. Well maybe the highlights.
I never saw a round by round breakdown, Joshua even won a round after the 3rd, and he wasn't losing anything until he got caught with the same left hook on the inside he always get caught with.
Joshua is supposed to be just under 17 stone, 10-12 lb lighter than last time, believe it when I see it, however, that should at least benefit his iffy engine.
Ruiz is a decent fighter, well schooled, fast hands and good footwork ...... but is he of the same calibre as to be in the same bracket as the other undisputed or major belt holders?
I dont think so. He isn't a crushing puncher, he isn't a supreme boxer and there is no way I am going to believe he is well conditioned.
Thus far, he is a James J Braddock, an Ingemar Johansson, a Buster Douglas.
He did well against Joshua last time, but Joshua has just about every physical and contractual advantage here (again!).
Anything other than a crushing KO win for Joshua really tarnishes AJ. That way, he can claim it was an unlucky one-off, or that there were issues outside the ring .......
Either way, all future opponents that Joshua has will never be as intimidated or unsure as before. You never regain that cloak of invincibility once it has been reduced to rags (Joe Louis apart)
Joshua is looking at the first fight thinking I got caught coming in trying to finish him off after I knocked him down the first time. All I have to do in the rematch is keep it at range and jab his head off for twelve rounds. He looks like he's at least attempted to be more athletic and less muscular for the rematch so he doesn't run out of gas. I jusy hope the rematch isn't going to be like watching a Vladimir Klitschko fight. I really want to see Ruiz do it again but if I had to put money on it I'd pick a Joshua UD. I have the feeling I'm going to be yelling at the telly for twelve rounds watching Klitschko Mark II bore the tits off me. Come on Ruiz.
Good interview. I'm liking him more and more each time I hear from him.
Don't think he'll have much chance of a trilogy if he did lose tomorrow.....
@Mark TKO yes I truly agree with you and feel the same way but then I woke up this morning and saw the news that he weighed in at 283 lbs. What on Earth is he thinking? Like I said in those other thread, either he is so confident that he plans on dismantling Joshua in the first three or four rounds or he has literally bit off more than he can chewQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I am starting to think that Ruiz has pissed it all up against the wall.
Biggest upset since Buster Douglas, and he went crazy with buying cars, houses, appearing on TV etc. Being a stone heavier, despite having much more time to prepare for Joshua is madness.
What a lack of ambition. Looks like the limit of his horizons are the two big paydays.
Joshua boxes cagily for 4 rounds and when fatso gasses, he beats the shit out of him.
Having said that, if AJ was to lose a second time to the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man it really is the end of him.
283 lbs
I just cannot wrap my head around that
I've backed Ruiz again at 4/1, sad but true, I had 17/1 on the first bout so they owe me nothing. Also took the precaution of backing the draw at 48/1 (betfair) in case the fix is in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Anyone who picked Ruiz changing their mind after the weigh in? The guys weight has continued to rise over the last 3 fights. He will pop eventually.
Hahaha that brought to mind a parade float. The Andy Ruiz Jr. Cinco de Mayo Parade Float. Hahahaha! He will pop. Good oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I want to change my prediction from AJ points win to knockout.Quote:
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I'm leaning more towards Joshua now after the weigh in but stand by ruiz prediction. There's still that psychological edge for ruiz and Joshua will get hit at some point. Once it's past 5 though and Joshua still there big Andy could be in trouble.