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Rank your top 5 fights you want the most right now
Since boxing is on a hiatus, we might as well have other random discussions. Rank in order the top 5 fights you would make if you could. There are no rules for this. The fights don’t even have to make realistic sense. It doesn’t even necessarily mean that they are the best fights to be made (like best be best). You could want a fight because it would be the most action packed or you just want to see a certain fighter get beaten. Just say the fight and the weight (or catch weight) it would be fought at.
Spence vs Crawford at Welterweight
I think this is the whole package. A career defining win for either fighter that I think would be really fun. Spence is relentless but Crawford is mean. Great fight.
Loma vs Mikey at Lightweight
Mikey proved that he still has a punch at welterweight. He might be semi weight drained, but it would be a very skillful match even if not the most action packed. They are two of the most highly skilled boxers at the moment.
Inoue vs Nery at Bantamweight
Action packed fight against two good fighters. Inoue proved that he is tough against Donaire. Nery is a buzz saw. Would love to see this.
Inoue vs Navarrete at Super Bantamweight
Basically the same as above. It might be a little high for Inoue, but I’m thinking that his skill might be able to overcome the bigger Navarrete.
Beterbiev vs Bivol
Beterbiev is a monster, but Bivol is a very good boxer. I think it would be a fun fight and either one who won would prove to be a legit top fighter in the sport.
There are tons of fights I could pick, but I think these are the ones I would choose if I could just pick.
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Harry Grab v Saad Muhammed 175
Tommy Hearns v Julian Jackson 154
Jeff Fenech v Eric Morales 122
Naseem Hamed v Sammy Saddler 126
James Toney v Gennadiy Golovkin 160
Truth is right now I'd gleefully tune in for a Larry Holmes 'best of' 90's comeback highlight reel.
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Spicoli
Harry Grab v Saad Muhammed 175
Tommy Hearns v Julian Jackson 154
Jeff Fenech v Eric Morales 122
Naseem Hamed v Sammy Saddler 126
James Toney v Gennadiy Golovkin 160
Truth is right now I'd gleefully tune in for a Larry Holmes 'best of' 90's comeback highlight reel.
I meant for right now but all time is fine too😁
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Josh Taylor vs ramirez 140
Prograis vs Mikey at 140
Switch those guys around any way you like.
135 is loaded also. Loma vs Lopez already signed, so other than that Davis, Haney and Ryan Garcia fighting each other or the winner of first fight.
Spence Crawford of course, but would like to know Spence is still on form after the accident, so maybe we could just have Spence vs Amir khan first.
Beterbiev vs Canelo at 175. I realize it won't happen but it would be a great clash.
Fury vs AJ
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p4pking
Josh Taylor vs ramirez 140
Prograis vs Mikey at 140
Switch those guys around any way you like.
135 is loaded also. Loma vs Lopez already signed, so other than that Davis, Haney and Ryan Garcia fighting each other or the winner of first fight.
Spence Crawford of course, but would like to know Spence is still on form after the accident, so maybe we could just have Spence vs Amir khan first.
Beterbiev vs Canelo at 175. I realize it won't happen but it would be a great clash.
Fury vs AJ
Why not?
Just kidding. :D
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Callum Smith v Canelo because I am certain Smith would beat Canelo if the fight was in Liverpool with 3 UK judges and UK ref at super middle with no (diva) clauses.
Loma v Davis or Haney or Lopez who are young, undefeated and dangerous.
Roman Gonzales v Estrada to take back the Ring belt.
Frampton v Josh Warrington 2 as I think Carl will adjust better this time and win.
Eubank Jnr v Saunders as I think Junior will adjust better this time and win.
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Callum Smith v Canelo because I am certain Smith would beat Canelo if the fight was in Liverpool with 3 UK judges and UK ref at super middle with no (diva) clauses.
Loma v Davis or Haney or Lopez who are young, undefeated and dangerous.
Roman Gonzales v Estrada to take back the Ring belt.
Frampton v Josh Warrington 2 as I think Carl will adjust better this time and win.
Eubank Jnr v Saunders as I think Junior will adjust better this time and win.
Notice how anybody who wants a "Canelo vs anybody" fight feels compelled to put asterisks and conditions on it. ;D That speaks volumes (and not in a good way).
The rest of the fights don't need such qualifiers.
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1. AJ vs Fury- not certain this is as one sided as the Wilder fights have been. Still feel Tyson wins, just think AJ makes him work a little harder and think a little more in there.
2. Spence vs Crawford- Great fight and I change my mind daily on who I think will win.
3. Loma vs Mikey Garcia- Best fight to be made at those lighter weights. Not sure if Loma can use his speed and angles to overcome Mikey’s size advantage and solid fundamentals.
4. Bivol vs Beterbiev- Think Bivol wins this but still a very interesting fight to me.
5. Manny vs Danny Garcia- I am a huge Manny fan so I love when he pads his resume, even at this age. Like Danny and think he is solid, but feel Manny is still a little too athletic and elite for Danny- even at his age. Don’t want to see Manny fight Spence or Crawford because I think they are just too much for him right now- Danny is about the best guy he can realistically best at this point.
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All Time:
1. Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis- Poster child for missed opportunities- worse than Manny vs. Floyd and Wilder vs AJ.
2. Ike Quartey vs Tito Trinidad- Think Tito wins by late stoppage but would've been a great fight (better than Oscar vs Tito and Oscar vs Ike) due to the style match up.
3. Mike Mcallum vs Tommy Hearns- Mike was a beast and deserved to be in there with Hagler, Hearns...etc.
4. Shane Mosely vs Floyd (140)- Think Floyd still wins but feel this version of Shane gives him a much rougher fight.
5. Roy Jones Jr. vs. G-Man- Think Roy wins but early rounds would have been hell for him. Once Gerald gassed I think Roy pot shots him to a stoppage from accumulation.
Honorable Mentions: Evander vs Mike Tyson prior to Douglas fight, James Toney vs Nigel Benn and/or Chris Eubank, Lennox Lewis vs Ike Ibeabuchi, James Toney vs BHOP at lightheavy, Oscar vs Kostya Tszyu, JCC vs Roberto Duran
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All-time I would have wanted a Gomez-Sanchez rematch. Gomez would've been better prepared, and the outcome could've easily gone the other way.
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Spicoli
Harry Grab v Saad Muhammed 175
Tommy Hearns v Julian Jackson 154
Jeff Fenech v Eric Morales 122
Naseem Hamed v Sammy Saddler 126
James Toney v Gennadiy Golovkin 160
Truth is right now I'd gleefully tune in for a Larry Holmes 'best of' 90's comeback highlight reel.
I meant for right now but all time is fine too😁
;D Sorry man went overboard with the doesn't even have to make sense part ;D. Beterbiev v Bivol feels like an absolute must have. Good call on Inoue v Nery too but we may be losing hope with Nery likely going up. One of the biggest shames for me in this boxing blackout is Inoue losing his headliner at Vegas. The reintroduction Stateside with Top Rank. He and Navarrete makes perfect sense and easy to make. Just hope Navarrete doesn't jump up as well.
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All Time:
1. Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis- Poster child for missed opportunities- worse than Manny vs. Floyd and Wilder vs AJ.
2. Ike Quartey vs Tito Trinidad- Think Tito wins by late stoppage but would've been a great fight (better than Oscar vs Tito and Oscar vs Ike) due to the style match up.
3. Mike Mcallum vs Tommy Hearns- Mike was a beast and deserved to be in there with Hagler, Hearns...etc.
4. Shane Mosely vs Floyd (140)- Think Floyd still wins but feel this version of Shane gives him a much rougher fight.
5. Roy Jones Jr. vs. G-Man- Think Roy wins but early rounds would have been hell for him. Once Gerald gassed I think Roy pot shots him to a stoppage from accumulation.
Honorable Mentions: Evander vs Mike Tyson prior to Douglas fight, James Toney vs Nigel Benn and/or Chris Eubank, Lennox Lewis vs Ike Ibeabuchi, James Toney vs BHOP at lightheavy, Oscar vs Kostya Tszyu, JCC vs Roberto Duran
These are great! Bazooka and Tito is a firestorm. At the time I always thought Bowe would be to able for that early Lewis but it didn't happen for a reason all these years later. Bowe knew it as did Rock Newman.
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Bowe probably could have beaten the Lennox Lewis before he was with Manny Steward. That Lewis was not the polished fighter he later went on to be whilst Bowe was with Futch and had better discipline. Riddick really did want that fight but McCall stopped Lennox and once he got the legendary trainer, Bowe avoided the fight.
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I think that on the night Bowe beat Evander ( first fight), he would have been difficult for any heavyweight in history. Bowe was in great shape, had great movement, was a true “big man”, had fast hands, and great fundamentals/technique inside and out. That being said, I never saw Riddick that good again.
Lennox, like most fighters, had a tendency to take certain opponents lightly- Bruno, McCall, Rahman...etc., but I always found him to elevate his game and fight his best vs those he viewed as legitimate threats- Ruddock, Tua, Tyson, Evander...etc. Lennox reached his peak under Manny Steward, but he was a big man, had the harder punch, was pretty mobile/athletic, and was very intelligent in the ring behind his educated left jab. Riddick and Lennox ushered in the age of the super heavyweights.
I don’t think either was scared of the other, I think they were trying to maximize the payday and let the fight marinate but missed their opportunity when Lennox was stopped and Riddick got fat. This was similar to Manny and Floyd (Manny getting stopped by JMM) waiting a littl too long to maximize their profits/ revenues, although unlike Bowe/Lewis they still did pretty well having their fight years after the expiration date. This has happened to AJ as well- some of the luster is now off him vs Tyson and/or Wilder.
As to who wins- I think Riddick is a little too mobile for Lennox if they fight and Riddick is close to what we saw when he first won his title. Later on, say 1994 and after, I think Lennox beats him. Remember how bad Riddick looked vs Evander in the rematch and both Golota fights, Lennox doesn’t lose to those versions of Bowe in my opinion.
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Prime Bowe (v Evander 1) v Prime Lennox (Mercer, Holyfield 1 McCall 2, Rahman 2) would have been a good fight but think Prime Lennox would always win.
Remember Lennox beat Bowe in the Olympics and may have that psychological edge over him.
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mikeeod
I think that on the night Bowe beat Evander ( first fight), he would have been difficult for any heavyweight in history. Bowe was in great shape, had great movement, was a true “big man”, had fast hands, and great fundamentals/technique inside and out. That being said, I never saw Riddick that good again.
Lennox, like most fighters, had a tendency to take certain opponents lightly- Bruno, McCall, Rahman...etc., but I always found him to elevate his game and fight his best vs those he viewed as legitimate threats- Ruddock, Tua, Tyson, Evander...etc. Lennox reached his peak under Manny Steward, but he was a big man, had the harder punch, was pretty mobile/athletic, and was very intelligent in the ring behind his educated left jab. Riddick and Lennox ushered in the age of the super heavyweights.
I don’t think either was scared of the other, I think they were trying to maximize the payday and let the fight marinate but missed their opportunity when Lennox was stopped and Riddick got fat. This was similar to Manny and Floyd (Manny getting stopped by JMM) waiting a littl too long to maximize their profits/ revenues, although unlike Bowe/Lewis they still did pretty well having their fight years after the expiration date. This has happened to AJ as well- some of the luster is now off him vs Tyson and/or Wilder.
As to who wins- I think Riddick is a little too mobile for Lennox if they fight and Riddick is close to what we saw when he first won his title. Later on, say 1994 and after, I think Lennox beats him. Remember how bad Riddick looked vs Evander in the rematch and both Golota fights, Lennox doesn’t lose to those versions of Bowe in my opinion.
I'm with you there on neither being literally afraid of the other. On Bowes front I fault Newman more so for all the double talk and reneging on the previous agreement that winner of Lewis - Ruddock would be mandatory challenger next out as the wbc put it out. Of course there are always politics and numbers to be ironed out but the 90-10 split they put forth seemed a non starter. I never saw the proposed meeting around 95' as serious with Bowe waddling in at 250 with Buster Mathis Jr around the time Lewis Lost to McCall. The only one that mattered was the one Bowe opted out of by binning his belt on stage at the urging of Newman, something Bowe says he now regrets. The wbc, network and the four fighters all knew what was on the table. Today I cannot a heavyweight champ doing something similar and not being ripped to shreds for it ;D. Bowe is such an enigma. To me he arguably peaked in the instant. On fight night v Holyfield I he was the definition of a multi geared versatile big man. The outside game and ability to mix inside was brilliant. But his biggest fight was self discipline and focus. What could have been. It'll always go down as a promising gem of a showdown but risks were reserved.
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Fury v AJ - still can’t see anything other than an easy night for Tyson with Joshua pulled out by his corner around the 10th
AJ v Wilder - still want to see this one to decide who second best HW is. AJ dominates on the scorecard but can’t see Wilder not landing and ending it
Brook v Khan - but 4 years ago. Khan iced out before end of 3rd
Pac v Floyd - NOW. Floyd keeps saying he’s coming back but time is running out. He knows he can’t beat Pac now. I’m not alone in wanting to see Floyd battered into submission
Usyk v Whyte - who’s the best of the also rans
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Top two same as Mark
Always thought AJ beats Fury, nothing on either side has changed my mind on that. The easy answer is Fury stands him on his head. The easy answer was also that Wilder would KO Fury at some point.
Wilder AJ is and always will be a shootout. Possibly leaning more towards AJ at this point as Wilder's inability to deal with someone pushing him back was evident. AJ would have to be aggressive. If he stands off he's in Wilders wheelhouse and constantly moments away from unconsciousness.
Tank V Loma - Classic bull V Matador.
Taylor V Ramirez - Top drawer undisputed.
Buatsi V Yarde - Buatsi Should be taking Yarde apart.
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You think Fury would stand him on his head ? What do you mean.
In what manner do you think AJ would win ?
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I think AJ stops him. I think he hits Fury every bit as hard as Wilder does but more often.
Stand him on his head = Outskill/Outclass him. A Brendan Ingle ism
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I think AJ stops him. I think he hits Fury every bit as hard as Wilder does but more often.
Stand him on his head = Outskill/Outclass him. A Brendan Ingle ism
Ah. Just can’t see AJ stopping Fury and mentally, though he beat Ruiz easily with a safety first strategy, I’m not sure AJ believes he’s as good as he thought he was.
Hopefully this is the next HW title fight after the wave of this fucking virus eases.
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I think AJ stops him. I think he hits Fury every bit as hard as Wilder does but more often.
Stand him on his head = Outskill/Outclass him. A Brendan Ingle ism
Ah. Just can’t see AJ stopping Fury and mentally, though he beat Ruiz easily with a safety first strategy, I’m not sure AJ believes he’s as good as he thought he was.
Hopefully this is the next HW title fight after the wave of this fucking virus eases.
If AJ piles into him like he did against Wlad there is no way Fury is not getting hurt. There are only so many counts you can get back up from and it might not be the most likely outcome but AJ is streets ahead of Wilder in boxing IQ.
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Mark TKO
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Memphis
I think AJ stops him. I think he hits Fury every bit as hard as Wilder does but more often.
Stand him on his head = Outskill/Outclass him. A Brendan Ingle ism
Ah. Just can’t see AJ stopping Fury and mentally, though he beat Ruiz easily with a safety first strategy, I’m not sure AJ believes he’s as good as he thought he was.
Hopefully this is the next HW title fight after the wave of this fucking virus eases.
Yep I don't disagree with that. I think AJ has got some demons upstairs. Not so much doubting his ability, rather doubting who he is and how he should fight. He can't box Fury, he knows that. To beat him he'll have to be himself and fight him, route one.
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AJ has a ton of skill and is a very strong kid. He will be difficult for Tyson for the first half of the fight-unlike Wilder he has a full arsenal of weapons and is physically stronger and more skilled. The issue will be mental toughness and endurance- Tyson wins decisively in both categories. I don’t see AJ beating Fury, but do see him having a much better shot vs Wilder than I originally gave him.
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I'm really beginning to wonder how Spence comes back. Frankly all of them after this hiatus but Spence in particular had the legit injuries, the hint of vices on his shoulder and now an even longer absence. Fights will resume, we'll get back and carry on but it will be interesting to see if Spence has the patience and temperament to rebuild proper. If I were Arum and Crawford I'd offer him the world on a platter when talks of fight dates return. Anything he asks for give it. Then again Crawford is probably walking around at 180+ right now.
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I always wanted to see Mayorga/ Margarito, around the time of the Spinks fight.
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Spicoli
I'm really beginning to wonder how Spence comes back. Frankly all of them after this hiatus but Spence in particular had the legit injuries, the hint of vices on his shoulder and now an even longer absence. Fights will resume, we'll get back and carry on but it will be interesting to see if Spence has the patience and temperament to rebuild proper. If I were Arum and Crawford I'd offer him the world on a platter when talks of fight dates return. Anything he asks for give it. Then again Crawford is probably walking around at 180+ right now.
Spence could be recovering better with the additional time and come back as strong.
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I'm really beginning to wonder how Spence comes back. Frankly all of them after this hiatus but Spence in particular had the legit injuries, the hint of vices on his shoulder and now an even longer absence. Fights will resume, we'll get back and carry on but it will be interesting to see if Spence has the patience and temperament to rebuild proper. If I were Arum and Crawford I'd offer him the world on a platter when talks of fight dates return. Anything he asks for give it. Then again Crawford is probably walking around at 180+ right now.
Spence could be recovering better with the additional time and come back as strong.
Very likely but remains to be seen. There is going to be a stampede for available fight dates and as we're seeing now with harder hit spots in Ca and NY we may very well see some unlikely venues having first dibs. Spence strikes me as take all challengers type early as possible but rust is rust. Also take into account lack of high volume 'live' sparring and usual gyms. It'll be interesting
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All time ?
Ray Robinson V Ray Leonard
Hagler V GGG
Naseem Hamed V Floyd
Jack Johnson V Wlad
Duran V Loma
Now ?
Dubois V Joyce (im really looking forward to this fight)
Fury V AJ