Is that a possibility for Ward? It is a fight he may be able to win. What do you think?
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Is that a possibility for Ward? It is a fight he may be able to win. What do you think?
I'd think this is the one fight Ward probably would come out of retirement for. The question is why would Canelo push for it? Kind of a lose lose and he certainly doesn't need Ward to make crazy money.
Why would Canelo want to get his junk punched?
Ward doesn't deserve the payday.
Ward loses if he comes back against Alvarez
Can you imagine what a backwards step this would be for Alvarez big picture. Sure, why cement legacy at 175 with current top threats when you can get over on a full time mic worker who beat your best years before you did.
Not even Canelo would sink this low. He has some standards.
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Originally Posted by Master
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You're too kind, Master. But that did give me a good hearty laugh.
Oh.... I think as long as Ward could hobble walk up the steps to the ring apron and manage the ropes...... Canelo would fight him. :D
"Canelo" and "standards" don't really belong in the same sentence paragraph document. ;)
Just feed Ward the same cows they give Canelo. He would be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
:lolhaha:
You're too kind, Master. But that did give me a good hearty laugh.
Oh.... I think as long as Ward could hobble walk up the steps to the ring apron and manage the ropes...... Canelo would fight him. :D
"Canelo" and "standards" don't really belong in the same sentence paragraph document. ;)
I’d be impressed if Canelo made a Ward fight. I mean, what does he have to gain from it? Ward won’t bring him extra money because Ward would want to be paid more than he’d bring. Ward is far bigger than him and a rough customer. Sure Ward has been out of the game but he’s only barely 36 and lives clean. Just keep stacking up guys GGG refused to fight while GGG fights Szeremeta(I’m guessing on the name because he’s a nobody, GGGs favorite)
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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
That makes one of us. By the time boxing's back online and a fight like this is made and promoted enough, Ward will have been inactive for well over 3 years. If he's not 37 already by that time, he'll be pushing it.
Ward far bigger and a rough customer? Kov was "far bigger" and an even "rougher" customer. The quote marks on "rougher" are there for a reason. The Kov that faced Canelo was the pre-calculated Bambi of the division.
Size won't mean anything by the time Canelo is finished playing his Catchweight Advanced Mathematics, and drags Ward to whatever weight Canelo feels he'll be the most vulnerable.
Money? Canelo can smoke million dollar bills. It's all about the (cough) legacy for Canelo. Never mind the Beterbievs of the world who can only dream of a matchup that will never be made.
I get your hate for GGG just like I abhor Canelo's otherwordly hype. But being impressed by Canelo-Ward just to make a point about GGG?
C'mon man....... :rolleyes:
Maybe after Ward, Canelo can entice Floyd to come in at a puffed up 168 and put another notch on his (cough) Franchise Belt.
I think the time has past for a Ward return if it was going to happen. And if he did, I doubt it would be below cruiserweight.
Canelo would have no purpose to fight Ward at this point unless he could convince Ward to weight drain himself and get every advantage possible. All it could possibly do is hurt his legacy.
andre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Canelo jumped to fight that drunkard Kovalev? lolol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
That's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
so canelo did beat ggg yeh? so you were meaning canelo's best at 175?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Bolded it for ya. Golovkin never fought at 168-175. Ward beat a much fresher Kovalev and Canelo beat a name now considered weaker in division. Ironically he'll probably end up revisiting the Golovkin gravy train who is now on the ledge rather than challenging himself in the weights he jumped up to grab trinkets at. Canelo gonna Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso canelo did beat ggg yeh? so you were meaning canelo's best at 175?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
you said "beat your best years before you did" so do you think sergey is canelo's best or canelo's best at 175? i think ggg is canelo's best win, canelo has only fought once at lightheavy so obviously sergey has to be his best at that weight. so as i stated ward never beat ggg. never said ggg fought at supermiddle or lightheavy, or that ward didn't beat a fresher sergey, only that ward didn't beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBolded it for ya. Golovkin never fought at 168-175. Ward beat a much fresher Kovalev and Canelo beat a name now considered weaker in division. Ironically he'll probably end up revisiting the Golovkin gravy train who is now on the ledge rather than challenging himself in the weights he jumped up to grab trinkets at. Canelo gonna Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso canelo did beat ggg yeh? so you were meaning canelo's best at 175?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Golovkin: Part Deux is clearly Canelos best win. Yeh that's true. But you initially picked around the sentence to play A-HA but obviously he's irrelevant to the mentioned Ward-Canelo and cementing legacy at 175... as for Ward to have beaten him Golovkin would have had to leave 160 :cwm13:. It's not that hard man ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou said "beat your best years before you did" so do you think sergey is canelo's best or canelo's best at 175? i think ggg is canelo's best win, canelo has only fought once at lightheavy so obviously sergey has to be his best at that weight. so as i stated ward never beat ggg. never said ggg fought at supermiddle or lightheavy, or that ward didn't beat a fresher sergey, only that ward didn't beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBolded it for ya. Golovkin never fought at 168-175. Ward beat a much fresher Kovalev and Canelo beat a name now considered weaker in division. Ironically he'll probably end up revisiting the Golovkin gravy train who is now on the ledge rather than challenging himself in the weights he jumped up to grab trinkets at. Canelo gonna Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso canelo did beat ggg yeh? so you were meaning canelo's best at 175?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
oh so you mean canelo's best at lightheavy, that's fine, canelo has only had one fight there. i just don't think sergey is canelo's best win in his career, i think it's ggg. so yes ward did beat canelo's best at lightheavy but he never beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGolovkin: Part Deux is clearly Canelos best win. Yeh that's true. But you initially picked around the sentence to play A-HA but obviously he's irrelevant to the mentioned Ward-Canelo and cementing legacy at 175... as for Ward to have beaten him Golovkin would have had to leave 160 :cwm13:. It's not that hard man ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou said "beat your best years before you did" so do you think sergey is canelo's best or canelo's best at 175? i think ggg is canelo's best win, canelo has only fought once at lightheavy so obviously sergey has to be his best at that weight. so as i stated ward never beat ggg. never said ggg fought at supermiddle or lightheavy, or that ward didn't beat a fresher sergey, only that ward didn't beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBolded it for ya. Golovkin never fought at 168-175. Ward beat a much fresher Kovalev and Canelo beat a name now considered weaker in division. Ironically he'll probably end up revisiting the Golovkin gravy train who is now on the ledge rather than challenging himself in the weights he jumped up to grab trinkets at. Canelo gonna Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso canelo did beat ggg yeh? so you were meaning canelo's best at 175?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
You're debating points only you have brought up :D. But happy trolling bud :author:Quote:
Originally Posted by TICoh so you mean canelo's best at lightheavy, that's fine, canelo has only had one fight there. i just don't think sergey is canelo's best win in his career, i think it's ggg. so yes ward did beat canelo's best at lightheavy but he never beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGolovkin: Part Deux is clearly Canelos best win. Yeh that's true. But you initially picked around the sentence to play A-HA but obviously he's irrelevant to the mentioned Ward-Canelo and cementing legacy at 175... as for Ward to have beaten him Golovkin would have had to leave 160 :cwm13:. It's not that hard man ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou said "beat your best years before you did" so do you think sergey is canelo's best or canelo's best at 175? i think ggg is canelo's best win, canelo has only fought once at lightheavy so obviously sergey has to be his best at that weight. so as i stated ward never beat ggg. never said ggg fought at supermiddle or lightheavy, or that ward didn't beat a fresher sergey, only that ward didn't beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBolded it for ya. Golovkin never fought at 168-175. Ward beat a much fresher Kovalev and Canelo beat a name now considered weaker in division. Ironically he'll probably end up revisiting the Golovkin gravy train who is now on the ledge rather than challenging himself in the weights he jumped up to grab trinkets at. Canelo gonna Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso canelo did beat ggg yeh? so you were meaning canelo's best at 175?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
because ward never beat canelo's best yeh?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliYou're debating points only you have brought up :D. But happy trolling bud :author:Quote:
Originally Posted by TICoh so you mean canelo's best at lightheavy, that's fine, canelo has only had one fight there. i just don't think sergey is canelo's best win in his career, i think it's ggg. so yes ward did beat canelo's best at lightheavy but he never beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliGolovkin: Part Deux is clearly Canelos best win. Yeh that's true. But you initially picked around the sentence to play A-HA but obviously he's irrelevant to the mentioned Ward-Canelo and cementing legacy at 175... as for Ward to have beaten him Golovkin would have had to leave 160 :cwm13:. It's not that hard man ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou said "beat your best years before you did" so do you think sergey is canelo's best or canelo's best at 175? i think ggg is canelo's best win, canelo has only fought once at lightheavy so obviously sergey has to be his best at that weight. so as i stated ward never beat ggg. never said ggg fought at supermiddle or lightheavy, or that ward didn't beat a fresher sergey, only that ward didn't beat canelo's bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBolded it for ya. Golovkin never fought at 168-175. Ward beat a much fresher Kovalev and Canelo beat a name now considered weaker in division. Ironically he'll probably end up revisiting the Golovkin gravy train who is now on the ledge rather than challenging himself in the weights he jumped up to grab trinkets at. Canelo gonna Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso canelo did beat ggg yeh? so you were meaning canelo's best at 175?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThat's ok neither did Canelo until his do over yeh, depending on who you talk to. I had Nelo squeaking II out. Might have missed something but when exactly was Golovkins title run at 175 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICandre never beat gggQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli