plan to confront Black Lives Matter protesters in London next Saturday

This is not a wise move by the DFLA.
Potential bloodbath on the streets of London on Saturday.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...-next-saturday

Antifa and BLM are a bit like the Nazi Brownshirts. They use violence and coercion to restrict speech and target the likes of Robinson. The Labour Party is their vehicle and the media plays along as seen with the downplaying of awful violence. Imagine if a Robinson crowd kicked offf like they do over something NOT IN THE UK.

Democratic Football Lads Alliance ;D

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Ya, they should stay away, if you go looking for trouble you will find it.

The DFLA have always been racist fascist cowards. Hiding in big groups and carrying out campaigns of violence and intimidation across the country. The vast majority of BLM protests in this country have been anything but violent but now we have people openly declaring on this forum that the black people and anyone standing in solidarity with them should stay of the streets. Fuck those cunts.

There is so much indisputable evidence now of these racist cunts and their equivalents in America having fake Social Media accounts and organizing and carrying out violence, to then be blamed on peaceful protestors, that Facebook have stupidly banned skinheads all over the world, including many friends of mine, even those with 40+ yr careers of touring the world as champions of Ska as part of the Two-Tone movement.

If this is not a example of why things need to change then i don't know what is.

Shameful bastards.

Looked a bit out of control to me with this and officers fleeing. The police stood down when unlike Robinson and grooming gangs in this situation there was little to protest.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...d-from-saddle/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zedirBi7dMY

If so just remember who the ones actively looking for a fight were.

Blood bath for sure, i wouldnt have thought the mix would be a good one.

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The pulling down of the Colston statue has got the people of Bristol in a lather. Disgrace!!! Good on them!!! I'm somewhere in the middle. In that I don't give a fuck about a statue being there or not. My only issue is this, and it's the same for pretty much all protests, gatherings, whatever you want to call them. The people making the headlines don't give a shit about the cause, they just want to cause trouble. I hate them. I'd like to think that the people tearing it down were figureheads in the petitioning of the council to have it removed, which failed by the way fueling the 'good on them' crowd. But I don't buy that for one second. I don't buy that the people who were jumping all over the statue, the people who were throwing bikes at police horses or pelting coppers with bottles and anything else they could lay their filthy hands on were people at the forefront of the cause who felt compelled to take extreme actions out of frustration or whatever you want to call it. No, they're cunts. Using a 'largely peaceful' protest to hide behind and act a cunt. I want karma to land directly on those cunts faces. I want them to get trampled by a horse, to get dragged down from the cenotaph to receive a well earned and probably overdue kicking.

Cunts.

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The pulling down of the Colston statue has got the people of Bristol in a lather. Disgrace!!! Good on them!!! I'm somewhere in the middle. In that I don't give a fuck about a statue being there or not. My only issue is this, and it's the same for pretty much all protests, gatherings, whatever you want to call them. The people making the headlines don't give a shit about the cause, they just want to cause trouble. I hate them. I'd like to think that the people tearing it down were figureheads in the petitioning of the council to have it removed, which failed by the way fueling the 'good on them' crowd. But I don't buy that for one second. I don't buy that the people who were jumping all over the statue, the people who were throwing bikes at police horses or pelting coppers with bottles and anything else they could lay their filthy hands on were people at the forefront of the cause who felt compelled to take extreme actions out of frustration or whatever you want to call it. No, they're cunts. Using a 'largely peaceful' protest to hide behind and act a cunt. I want karma to land directly on those cunts faces. I want them to get trampled by a horse, to get dragged down from the cenotaph to receive a well earned and probably overdue kicking.

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What a load of bollocks.

You will not accept it and take it as a personal attack but just go back and reread the bollocks you just posted.

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What?

I don't take anything as a personal attack. Especially personal attacks.

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The pulling down of the Colston statue has got the people of Bristol in a lather. Disgrace!!! Good on them!!! I'm somewhere in the middle. In that I don't give a fuck about a statue being there or not. My only issue is this, and it's the same for pretty much all protests, gatherings, whatever you want to call them. The people making the headlines don't give a shit about the cause, they just want to cause trouble. I hate them. I'd like to think that the people tearing it down were figureheads in the petitioning of the council to have it removed, which failed by the way fueling the 'good on them' crowd. But I don't buy that for one second. I don't buy that the people who were jumping all over the statue, the people who were throwing bikes at police horses or pelting coppers with bottles and anything else they could lay their filthy hands on were people at the forefront of the cause who felt compelled to take extreme actions out of frustration or whatever you want to call it. No, they're cunts. Using a 'largely peaceful' protest to hide behind and act a cunt. I want karma to land directly on those cunts faces. I want them to get trampled by a horse, to get dragged down from the cenotaph to receive a well earned and probably overdue kicking.

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Antifa is a Marxist group that basically wants an overthrow of the system. They shut down even the most benign of speakers as they cannot handle it. I don't wish violence on anyone, but anyone who is defacing or destroying public property should be given the harshest of penalties. Lock them up and let it be a warning to others.

Protest is totally fine, but violence over a rogue officer in America? That is ideological lunacy and Johnson should be stamping down on it as it is clearly coordinated with the same techniques and overreaction.

You wouldn't see Robinson supporters getting away with that and neither should they and they are getting away with it.

The majority do not agree with these fringe radical Communists.

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Ha! Fair play.

Much of what you said is spot on. Using a largely peaceful protest to hide behind while acting like a cunt, sums up the actions of those who purposefully or unwittingly end up undermining these things perfectly. I don't think you can then though act exactly like those you are condemning by assuming those at the forefront of direct action don't give a shit about the cause. The Colston statue is a very good example. As a Bristolian you of course will have a view on it, but also you will no doubt admit that being in one, if the not the most multicultural cities in the SW, that for Black Bristolians having to walk past a bloke who may well have branded and bought their ancestors must have seemed like a right slap in the face? So you not giving a fuck one way or the other has to be taken in that context. To then suggest that the people taking it down don't give a fuck about the cause requires a whole lot of assumptions.What about the last black hands that pushed it into the harbour? Do you really think just because it suits you it is OK to pretend he is just there for a Jolly?

And then it is all this false equivalency stuff. Jumping on a statue is in no way equivalent to throwing a bike at a Police horse and wishing that people get a kicking at the hands of the Police or worse the rent a mob Tommy Robinson fake Patriot cunts is just plain bollocks. 'Long overdue'? (:

It is quite funny seeing the cuntish hooligans standing around war memorials pretending to stand for law in order when just last year they were throwing bricks and fences at the coppers because TR was getting a long overdue spanking at the hands of the 'law' they invoke when it suits them.

We had the same thing down here. Bricks and paving stones dug up and left by the far right to try and provoke and delegitiamize and derail the protest. The local football firm waiting a mile away at the war memorial for a fight and racially abusing and cat calling black women walking past on their way to the protest. These are thugs who disrespected the memorial by turning their back on it and who i have never seen at any official memorial service. The Memorial they were 'Protecting' is full of the names of Muslim Soldiers who died in service of the commonwealth, but most of the cunts guarding it can't even read ffs. People by their hundreds claiming that everyone was jumping on a bandwagon despite 95% of the speakers being Black and many in attendance having been going to protests like this for 30+ years. Idiots without a CSE to their name calling the graduates,professors, health workers present, 'Selfish Morons who are going to cause thousands of deaths', despite being outside and again 90% wearing masks. You go to a supermarket and you are lucky if 25% have masks on.

It is like a rush to the bottom.

Yes of course you will have virtue signalling idiots like the white prats in Exeter speaking on behalf of Black people (DOh) and those who just want a barny, but most protests here have been peaceful.

It is also true that is a very welcome distraction from a Government intent on culling many of it's citizens, but today so many people struggle to have more than one thought in their head at any one time and change is never easy. That is what makes it worthwhile.

The 'cuntish hooligans' were former military defending their nations heritage. They were not even against BLM. Please tell the truth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ESK03LIL1oA

Don't forget.

Johnson is a racist voted into power by racists.

That is not an opinion. It is a fact.

Look at the very vocal ex pat racists all blatantly admitting that property and objects are far more important than the lives of people.

And yet nobody would wish that they got a kicking, despite them being so obviously pro-murder themselves.

Robinson supporters oppose the industrial rape of children in the here and now. It is still going on. Black people are not slaves and not getting killed by police officers in the UK. It is hysteria over nothing. Many people in history and alive today are or have been racist. Do we burn books next? Do we re-write history? Do we now dig up and cremate anyone who opposed female suffrage? Do we burn the Queen for representing a family that oppressed and killed many? Do we eliminate their DNA? Where does it end? Do we erase William Burroughs for killing his wife? Do we delete Conrad for racism? Do we eliminate the Bible and Koran for their misogyny and violence towards others?

There comes a point when the mob needs to grow up a bit. A statue hurts nobody unless they are mentally ill. History is history and cannot be changed.

How is destroying a statue related to a rogue police officer? The George death hasn't even been proven to be race driven yet.

Now anyone who voted Tory is a racist. Yawn. Same old tropes from the wacky left.

The mob is not democracy, it is criminal. The mob has killed more than 20 in the US and killed more black people than what they claim to have been protesting.

All the extremist "protest" groups are nothing but trouble making cunts, they love the aggro like the Tommy Robinson "counter" mob love the aggro. The two extremes deserve each other.

And the majority of other protesters are middle-class virtue signalling hypocrites, like the celebs, swanning back to their predominantly white middle-class areas.

If you explained to the "real" majority that a statue of a man who shipped 100,000 bods across the Atlantic whilst brandishing them with his company logo and chucking 20,000 dead in the sea they'd vote NO to erecting a bloody statue. But now in London they're ripping down statues of people who were "related" to slave traders. Wonder where this ends?

This morning all over the media i've learnt Churchill and Hitler - no difference.

Beanz you're grossly over complicating what I'm saying. Lets say foreground rather than forefront. The people at the forefront, the people relentlessly petitioning the council to have the statue removed. Good people. The people who force their way into the foreground for their own ends, pricks. Anyone that formed the opinion that the council are doing fuck all, lets do it ourselves, more power to them. I'm simply saying that in my opinion, as in pretty much any gathering or protest, some of the people there, didn't form that opinion, or any other opinion, they just want to have a jolly, or something to do, or something 'edgy' to stick on social media. They're the ones making the headlines, and I hate them.

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I'll apply the same formula to these people. On the whole I don't doubt that the majority of people doing this are very much not on my watch. There will be a minority who hope it kicks off so they can make a day of it.

The one who jumped on the cenotaph and tried to set fire to the Union flag. Was that a carefully well planned exercise to make a particular point? Or was it some donut who thought duh huh....I'm gonna jump up here and set fire to summat, I don't know what just yet, I'll make it up when I get there? I'm more than happy to make the assumption that it was the later and that the person doing it is a cunt.

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All the extremist "protest" groups are nothing but trouble making cunts, they love the aggro like the Tommy Robinson "counter" mob love the aggro. The two extremes deserve each other.

And the majority of other protesters are middle-class virtue signalling hypocrites, like the celebs, swanning back to their predominantly white middle-class areas.

If you explained to the "real" majority that a statue of a man who shipped 100,000 bods across the Atlantic whilst brandishing them with his company logo and chucking 20,000 dead in the sea they'd vote NO to erecting a bloody statue. But now in London they're ripping down statues of people who were "related" to slave traders. Wonder where this ends?

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Ha!

So there are only a very tiny minority of genuine people and every one else is either an extremist or a virtue signalling hypocrite ( and even more so if they are middle class or celebs who could not possibly be interested in any rights but their own could they? ha! ;D).

Did you figure all this out from your sofa?


Yes there are plenty of idiots, but even you can't pretend that there was no counter argument to Churchill and Hitler being no different, and also that people from the center were not offering their opinion too.


I can remember once years ago here, saying to someone that even though i am anything but a Royalist, we should have a full and frank discussion about it and then a vote, as people then could not moan if the monarchy then had to use their own money.



That then made me a Royalist . :confused:


You could not make it up. ;D


It is like the Brexit thing. People pretended it was a free and open vote to be respected, but despite never moaning about the result, merely voting to remain made me forever in the eyes of everyone a 'Remoaner'. Worse than that 'A traitor' and that from an American and an ex Pat :-\. So no real respect of another opinion at all. Many on the left voted leave and among them some friends fell out with me because I was not left leaning enough by joining them. Crazy stuff.

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Beanz you're grossly over complicating what I'm saying. Lets say foreground rather than forefront. The people at the forefront, the people relentlessly petitioning the council to have the statue removed. Good people. The people who force their way into the foreground for their own ends, pricks. Anyone that formed the opinion that the council are doing fuck all, lets do it ourselves, more power to them. I'm simply saying that in my opinion, as in pretty much any gathering or protest, some of the people there, didn't form that opinion, or any other opinion, they just want to have a jolly, or something to do, or something 'edgy' to stick on social media. They're the ones making the headlines, and I hate them.

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I'll apply the same formula to these people. On the whole I don't doubt that the majority of people doing this are very much not on my watch. There will be a minority who hope it kicks off so they can make a day of it.

The one who jumped on the cenotaph and tried to set fire to the Union flag. Was that a carefully well planned exercise to make a particular point? Or was it some donut who thought duh huh....I'm gonna jump up here and set fire to summat, I don't know what just yet, I'll make it up when I get there? I'm more than happy to make the assumption that it was the later and that the person doing it is a cunt.

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I think part of it....and i will put on my tin hat now.....is that we are all on a spectrum ;D and i am in a different part to you, so of course perception colours that a bit.

The thing that constantly frustrates me though (and i have been writing a piece about it for weeks now) is this false equivalency though. This idea that one extreme is as bad as the other. It does not quite work like that and is just a way we try to make the world seem much simpler than it is.

...and being a cunt is sort of just the base starting point we can assume for most people, ourselves included.

A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.

What about the workers who will have to remove the statute from Bristol harbour ?

Let's hear it for unappreciated quay workers

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Bask in the glory of Marxist Critical Theory. Once the Iconoclasts have whetted their appetite they are NEVER sated. It'll be Cecil John Rhodes and Churchill and Horatio Nelson and Earl Mountbatten and so on...the list won't end. Why? Black Lives Matter (the organization) AND Antifa are COMMUNISTS and they want to control history and how things are taught and remembered.




Anyone remember the troll campaign "It's OK to be white" where the crux of it was to get politically sensitive people to vehemently disagree with a benign statement (so as to laugh at their outrage)? Well Black Lives Matter (the organization) and Antifa are quite similarly named. Their names are calls to action, if you don't actively support Black Lives Matter (the organization) or Antifa then you're a racist or a fascist by default. I don't support those groups because they are COMMUNISTS. But try explaining such to histrionic protesters and see where that gets you.

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Mate. A 'man with a van' would have had ropes around that thing before it hit the deck ready to weigh it in as soon as the scrappers are open ;D

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A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.

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Again you are just resorting to the very same polarised sensationalist rubbish you believe you are better than. You sound like El Kabong calling anything he has no comprehension of 'communist'.

I am not a 'Cultural Marxist' just because people invoking the most intolerant stupid political correctness use it as a bed wetting excuse to run away from complexity.

And I am not part of a mob, quite the opposite. You can't have it both ways. Part of being what you and 'your mob' call being an SJW etc is being a proponent of diversity, and that includes diversity of thought and opinion.

The uncomfortable truth is that often the vast majority by their ignorance and refusal to act allow evil to go unchecked. People in this country have a real issue with history in that they refuse to engage with it. Look at the revisionism that has sunk so far into people's consciousness that ex pats and other irrelevant one note racist nobodies become the most prominent voice in the conversation. Their own backward fantasies are projected as if they were some kind of substitute for facts, history and real life lived experience.

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Bask in the glory of Marxist Critical Theory. Once the Iconoclasts have whetted their appetite they are NEVER sated. It'll be Cecil John Rhodes and Churchill and Horatio Nelson and Earl Mountbatten and so on...the list won't end. Why? Black Lives Matter (the organization) AND Antifa are COMMUNISTS and they want to control history and how things are taught and remembered.




Anyone remember the troll campaign "It's OK to be white" where the crux of it was to get politically sensitive people to vehemently disagree with a benign statement (so as to laugh at their outrage)? Well Black Lives Matter (the organization) and Antifa are quite similarly named. Their names are calls to action, if you don't actively support Black Lives Matter (the organization) or Antifa then you're a racist or a fascist by default. I don't support those groups because they are COMMUNISTS. But try explaining such to histrionic protesters and see where that gets you.

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Serious questions.

Did you even graduate high school?

Have you ever talked to people who lived through WW2?

How many more years are you going to waste orchestrating outrage in order to silence and censor free speech?


When are you going to change from being an hysterical politically hypersensitive chatboard troll into a responsible adult able to engage with issues instead of retreating into histrionics?

Do you not think that your sleepy acquiescence to Government tyranny and the repeal of constitutional rights somewhat makes a mockery of your previous stance?

Do you look forward to moving to Russia?

Sorry about the lack of numbers. I am sure you will muddle through.

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A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.

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Again you are just resorting to the very same polarised sensationalist rubbish you believe you are better than. You sound like El Kabong calling anything he has no comprehension of 'communist'.

I am not a 'Cultural Marxist' just because people invoking the most intolerant stupid political correctness use it as a bed wetting excuse to run away from complexity.

And I am not part of a mob, quite the opposite. You can't have it both ways. Part of being what you and 'your mob' call being an SJW etc is being a proponent of diversity, and that includes diversity of thought and opinion.

The uncomfortable truth is that often the vast majority by their ignorance and refusal to act allow evil to go unchecked. People in this country have a real issue with history in that they refuse to engage with it. Look at the revisionism that has sunk so far into people's consciousness that ex pats and other irrelevant one note racist nobodies become the most prominent voice in the conversation. Their own backward fantasies are projected as if they were some kind of substitute for facts, history and real life lived experience.

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Haven't you posted your own Cultural Marxist manifesto a few times here? I thought that's how you referred to yourself? It's irrelevant to me whether you are or not, likewise if you're a proud SJW.

You reject "mob?" Is "side" more appropriate? You can't deny your "side" see themselves as the heroes in this palaver? Nor deny you enjoy the mayhem? I see good and bad in both "sides." Does that make me ignorant? Probably. Especially to the extremes.

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A week ago the same people who condemned selfish cunts for going outside and spreading Covind are championing thousands and thousands of people "protesting" about a man killed in another country. Did you clap for the NHS? Did you take the knee for George Floyd?

I'm sure you believe in all your Cultural Marxist lark but you also love the aggro and turn a blind eye to anything your mob do wrong (even on here I don't recall you ever picking Denilson up for his racism, homophobia and misogyny?). The mantra from BLM is whitey is racist for being silent, fair enough, i'd like to see that energy applied to everything, whether it be sexism, misogyny, homophobia, ageism, gingerism, crippleism etc. Everyone and every mob are fucking hypocrites (especially white middle-class virtue signalers, who I am clearly "racist" against. Fact.)

My point was about education and history. Extremist's on either side don't get through to the vast majority who are basically impartial and just wanting peace.

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Again you are just resorting to the very same polarised sensationalist rubbish you believe you are better than. You sound like El Kabong calling anything he has no comprehension of 'communist'.

I am not a 'Cultural Marxist' just because people invoking the most intolerant stupid political correctness use it as a bed wetting excuse to run away from complexity.

And I am not part of a mob, quite the opposite. You can't have it both ways. Part of being what you and 'your mob' call being an SJW etc is being a proponent of diversity, and that includes diversity of thought and opinion.

The uncomfortable truth is that often the vast majority by their ignorance and refusal to act allow evil to go unchecked. People in this country have a real issue with history in that they refuse to engage with it. Look at the revisionism that has sunk so far into people's consciousness that ex pats and other irrelevant one note racist nobodies become the most prominent voice in the conversation. Their own backward fantasies are projected as if they were some kind of substitute for facts, history and real life lived experience.

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Haven't you posted your own Cultural Marxist manifesto a few times here? I thought that's how you referred to yourself? It's irrelevant to me whether you are or not, likewise if you're a proud SJW.

You reject "mob?" Is "side" more appropriate? You can't deny your "side" see themselves as the heroes in this palaver? Nor deny you enjoy the mayhem? I see good and bad in both "sides." Does that make me ignorant? Probably. Especially to the extremes.

All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players

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No. Quite the opposite. An explanation of why the censorious alt-right use it to not only shut down debate but to hide their own antisemitism and demonize anyone who believed education is a good thing. I am not part of some homogenized organized group of thugs, unlike quite a few who post here. I do not speak for 'them' or 'we'. A lot of the establishment and media would like you to think that and no i do not enjoy the mayhem. I am too old for fighting or knocking a few racist heads together, and can quite clearly see the good and bad in both sides, which is evidenced quite clearly not only in my actions, but in easy to find documentary evidence.

I do not think you are ignorant at all. We just have different viewpoints and opinions on things informed by different life experiences.

It is a somewhat meandering 15min read in full, and i will send you the link, but for the sake of brevity, forgive me the indulgence of quoting myself , here is the conclusion of something i wrote about Cultural Marxism -



So successful has the cult of Cultural Marxism as bogeyman been, that words like progressive are framed as ciphers for debauchery, great serious works of art like Picasso’s antifascist masterpiece ‘Guernica’ are dismissed as being communist, post modern rubbish, by people who do not even realise that Marxists themselves denounced it. The subscribers to the great Cultural Marxism conspiracy are recreating history, so that things like Neo-Nazis are refereed to as illusions, and women choosing to wear make up at work are simply asking to be sexually harassed. Protest is re-framed as both anarchy and conformity, and the idea of questioning anything is presented as a invitation to encourage moral and societal collapse.The supreme irony with a slogan like ‘cultural Marxism is taking over the world’ , is that in it’s original form, it critiques exactly what those who supposedly subscribe to Cultural Marxism are doing themselves. They are passively consuming the propaganda of a capitalist cultural industry. That is not conservatism, tradition or a return to the values of the enlightenment, it is an argument against progression and for regression.As Nietzsche warned“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”Those who subscribe to the Marxenstein cultural Marxist bogeyman theory, would do well to remember this, but it is also a fitting reminder for those of us often accused of being ‘Cultural Marxists’.It is relevant because the cynicism that is the abyss today, can easily swallow up the participants on both sides of the debate. In an effort to get to the bottom of why people think like they do, it may be much easier to pretend that your opponent is some monstrous, inhuman compassionless foe, but do so and you risk becoming an artless lumbering thug yourself.

“Truth always rests with the minority … because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion.”

Soren Kierkegaard


"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority. It's time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain

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Yes and college too.

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Have you ever talked to people who lived through WW2?

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Absolutely, but I'm sure anything I respond with won't be taken seriously or accepted by you or perhaps you won't comprehend my response. All have routinely happened.

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How many more years are you going to waste orchestrating outrage in order to silence and censor free speech?

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Who am I silencing and what am I censoring?

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When are you going to change from being an hysterical politically hypersensitive chatboard troll into a responsible adult able to engage with issues instead of retreating into histrionics?

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Which issues would you like for me to engage in seriously?

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Do you not think that your sleepy acquiescence to Government tyranny and the repeal of constitutional rights somewhat makes a mockery of your previous stance?

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What tyranny? What repeal of Constitutional rights? What do you know of either?

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Do you look forward to moving to Russia?

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Why would I? What are you on about? Are you going to actually explain your ravings or are you going to keep on spiraling?

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Sorry about the lack of numbers. I am sure you will muddle through.

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So keep on spiraling then?

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Serious questions.

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Right :rolleyes:

Thank You

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Did you even graduate high school?

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Yes and college too.

Oooh..well done. What did you study and at what level?

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Have you ever talked to people who lived through WW2?

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Absolutely, but I'm sure anything I respond with won't be taken seriously or accepted by you or perhaps you won't comprehend my response. All have routinely happened.

So do you think they would be proud of you? Any of them repeatedly bombed? Any of them British? Did they tell you what they thought about Churchill? How have they 'routinely happened'? Were you impressed by how none of them thought that fascists were worth defending ? Did you tell them how you thought of Europe more as enemies rather then allies of America?

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How many more years are you going to waste orchestrating outrage in order to silence and censor free speech?

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Who am I silencing and what am I censoring?


Anyone who does not agree with you. Anyone. Any different opinion that you can not comprehend. Any opinion. You simply call them Marxist, Communists, AntiFa, Angry, Ugly, etc whatever allows you to avoid asking yourself difficult questions about your own ideology and assumptions.

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When are you going to change from being an hysterical politically hypersensitive chatboard troll into a responsible adult able to engage with issues instead of retreating into histrionics?

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Which issues would you like for me to engage in seriously?
Any issue. If you want to play Devils advocate or provoke part of that responsibility is to challenge yourself which you seem to think beneath you.

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Do you not think that your sleepy acquiescence to Government tyranny and the repeal of constitutional rights somewhat makes a mockery of your previous stance?

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What tyranny? What repeal of Constitutional rights? What do you know of either?

Trump has defied subpoenas, cut off people's rights to reply, trampled down his own citizens ,acted like a Communist in strangling the free press, refused to show his tax returns, acted like article 2 makes him a king, attacked institutions explicitly protected by the bill of rights, abusing the eighth amendment to ape Muslim extremists in delighting in torture, pissing on the 14th amendment with his disdain of the idea of equal protection, using his own personal vendettas as an excuse to remove countless people from their jobs in an abuse of power, all this and more including attacking his own citizens and you applaud him.

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Do you look forward to moving to Russia?

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Why would I? What are you on about? Are you going to actually explain your ravings or are you going to keep on spiraling?


Russia for you ,is like your Oligarch ruled dictatorship, a country you think can do no wrong. You would defend them at the drop of a hat if Donald asked you to. Your timidity in the face of one man who would hide in a broom cupboard rather than face his own people would see you do well there.

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Sorry about the lack of numbers. I am sure you will muddle through.

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These are very simple questions but there are hundreds more on the way.

So keep on spiraling then?

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Oooh..well done. What did you study and at what level?

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Bachelors of Arts in Psychology.

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So do you think they would be proud of you? Any of them repeatedly bombed? Any of them British? Did they tell you what they thought about Churchill? How have they 'routinely happened'? Were you impressed by how none of them thought that fascists were worth defending ? Did you tell them how you thought of Europe more as enemies rather then allies of America?

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I don't assume such things and never asked as that is just an odd thing to ask. Yes all of them saw heavy combat. None of them British. I didn't ask them about Churchill as they weren't British.

"How have they 'routinely happened'? " ....I wouldn't know how to respond to that other than to tell you that you've misunderstood my post saying you won't take my response seriously, won't accept it, or will misunderstand it. And imagine that, you misunderstood it. ;D

I didn't discuss the EU or UN or NATO with them as I was either talking with them about their individual war experiences in WW2 or family or hunting. Though you probably wouldn't have cared for their stances on Socialism and Communism to be quite honest.

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Anyone who does not agree with you. Anyone. Any different opinion that you can not comprehend. Any opinion. You simply call them Marxist, Communists, AntiFa, Angry, Ugly, etc whatever allows you to avoid asking yourself difficult questions about your own ideology and assumptions.

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Not really a question, but my response would be: Do you feel censored? You seem to post an awful lot for someone censored if you do feel that way. As for assigning labels to people who hold certain beliefs...there ARE Communists in this world, there ARE Marxists, there ARE AntiFa and they ARE angry and they ARE ugly. Did you feel any irony typing this out?

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Any issue. If you want to play Devils advocate or provoke part of that responsibility is to challenge yourself which you seem to think beneath you.

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Oh so kind of like I was doing in describing the Lindbergh book I read until I was interrupted from describing the man and laying out his very complicated history? Kinda like that? Or is this more of a "argue for my side for once" plea?

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Trump has defied subpoenas, cut off people's rights to reply, trampled down his own citizens ,acted like a Communist in strangling the free press, refused to show his tax returns, acted like article 2 makes him a king, attacked institutions explicitly protected by the bill of rights, abusing the eighth amendment to ape Muslim extremists in delighting in torture, pissing on the 14th amendment with his disdain of the idea of equal protection, using his own personal vendettas as an excuse to remove countless people from their jobs in an abuse of power, all this and more including attacking his own citizens and you applaud him.

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He has fought subpoena's true, who wouldn't? HRC has as a private citizen fought tooth and nail against Judicial Watch's FOIA requests and subpoenas for answers. I don't begrudge her that, it's part of our court system and she has lawyers which she uses much like DJT uses his lawyers.

"Cut off people's rights to reply" - Actually not a RIGHT :-\
"Trampled his own citizens" - the ones lawlessly rioting?
"Acted like a Communist in strangling the free press" - Not exactly, but I'd be willing to discuss this more
"Refused to show his tax returns" - That's been a gentlemen's agreement and it's not bound by law
I'd ask for specific instances of 8th & 14th amendment abuses just for clarification
As for "removal of people/personal vendettas" - if you serve at the will of the President he can keep you in a position or drop you. that's how it works.
"attacking his own citizens" - He's never extra-judiciously killed an American citizen....Obama did though.

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Russia for you ,is like your Oligarch ruled dictatorship, a country you think can do no wrong. You would defend them at the drop of a hat if Donald asked you to. Your timidity in the face of one man who would hide in a broom cupboard rather than face his own people would see you do well there.

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Yyyyyyeah see these are emotions and feelings you're projecting on me I guess in order to make you feel like you have some sort of righteous point.

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These are very simple questions but there are hundreds more on the way.

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I've directly responded to your questions (really a lot more statements and accusations than questions weren't they) not that you have EVER done the same for me.

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Oooh..well done. What did you study and at what level?

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Bachelors of Arts in Psychology.

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So do you think they would be proud of you? Any of them repeatedly bombed? Any of them British? Did they tell you what they thought about Churchill? How have they 'routinely happened'? Were you impressed by how none of them thought that fascists were worth defending ? Did you tell them how you thought of Europe more as enemies rather then allies of America?

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I don't assume such things and never asked as that is just an odd thing to ask. Yes all of them saw heavy combat. None of them British. I didn't ask them about Churchill as they weren't British.

"How have they 'routinely happened'? " ....I wouldn't know how to respond to that other than to tell you that you've misunderstood my post saying you won't take my response seriously, won't accept it, or will misunderstand it. And imagine that, you misunderstood it. ;D

I didn't discuss the EU or UN or NATO with them as I was either talking with them about their individual war experiences in WW2 or family or hunting. Though you probably wouldn't have cared for their stances on Socialism and Communism to be quite honest.

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Originally Posted by Beanz

Anyone who does not agree with you. Anyone. Any different opinion that you can not comprehend. Any opinion. You simply call them Marxist, Communists, AntiFa, Angry, Ugly, etc whatever allows you to avoid asking yourself difficult questions about your own ideology and assumptions.

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Not really a question, but my response would be: Do you feel censored? You seem to post an awful lot for someone censored if you do feel that way. As for assigning labels to people who hold certain beliefs...there ARE Communists in this world, there ARE Marxists, there ARE AntiFa and they ARE angry and they ARE ugly. Did you feel any irony typing this out?

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Originally Posted by Beanz

Any issue. If you want to play Devils advocate or provoke part of that responsibility is to challenge yourself which you seem to think beneath you.

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Oh so kind of like I was doing in describing the Lindbergh book I read until I was interrupted from describing the man and laying out his very complicated history? Kinda like that? Or is this more of a "argue for my side for once" plea?

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Originally Posted by Beanz

Trump has defied subpoenas, cut off people's rights to reply, trampled down his own citizens ,acted like a Communist in strangling the free press, refused to show his tax returns, acted like article 2 makes him a king, attacked institutions explicitly protected by the bill of rights, abusing the eighth amendment to ape Muslim extremists in delighting in torture, pissing on the 14th amendment with his disdain of the idea of equal protection, using his own personal vendettas as an excuse to remove countless people from their jobs in an abuse of power, all this and more including attacking his own citizens and you applaud him.

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He has fought subpoena's true, who wouldn't? HRC has as a private citizen fought tooth and nail against Judicial Watch's FOIA requests and subpoenas for answers. I don't begrudge her that, it's part of our court system and she has lawyers which she uses much like DJT uses his lawyers.

"Cut off people's rights to reply" - Actually not a RIGHT :-\
"Trampled his own citizens" - the ones lawlessly rioting?
"Acted like a Communist in strangling the free press" - Not exactly, but I'd be willing to discuss this more
"Refused to show his tax returns" - That's been a gentlemen's agreement and it's not bound by law
I'd ask for specific instances of 8th & 14th amendment abuses just for clarification
As for "removal of people/personal vendettas" - if you serve at the will of the President he can keep you in a position or drop you. that's how it works.
"attacking his own citizens" - He's never extra-judiciously killed an American citizen....Obama did though.

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Originally Posted by Beanz

Russia for you ,is like your Oligarch ruled dictatorship, a country you think can do no wrong. You would defend them at the drop of a hat if Donald asked you to. Your timidity in the face of one man who would hide in a broom cupboard rather than face his own people would see you do well there.

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Yyyyyyeah see these are emotions and feelings you're projecting on me I guess in order to make you feel like you have some sort of righteous point.

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Originally Posted by Beanz

These are very simple questions but there are hundreds more on the way.

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I've directly responded to your questions (really a lot more statements and accusations than questions weren't they) not that you have EVER done the same for me.

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My bff beaner hasn’t changed, good to see him once in a while.

just to mix two threads up ...

Imagine some chavvy scrote going to oppose them, all geared up for some trouble. He sees the other protesters and, strengthened by his 'mates' alongside him, is goaded into running into the BLM group fists windmilling wildly .....

... and sees Anthony Joshua standing in front of him ;D

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just to mix two threads up ...

Imagine some chavvy scrote going to oppose them, all geared up for some trouble. He sees the other protesters and, strengthened by his 'mates' alongside him, is goaded into running into the BLM group fists windmilling wildly .....

... and sees Anthony Joshua standing in front of him ;D

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Ha!