Maurice Gordon, Schizophrenic, EXECUTED JUNE 8, 2020 by NJ State Trooper

HOW MUCH MORE OF THIS SHIT DO WE NEED TO SEE???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0U3eHG10xE

See..... this is where I diverge a little bit.

It's a tragedy just the same that another citizen got shot and killed by the police, but........... (and I hate to have to insert that "but" in there)

.... what was Gordon doing behind the wheel of a car anyway?

If he was truly schizophrenic, he was certainly endangering the lives of other people by driving 101 and 110 mph as stopped by police on two different occasions.

The first officer was truly decent and friendly.

The second one was doing his job....... but damned if Gordon didn't become increasingly more uncooperative.

"Walk this way sir." And damned if Gordon tried to walk the other way (to the middle of the freeway).

"Sit here sir." "Don't get out of the car, sir." "Get back in the car, sir."

Geeeez..... how many fucking warnings did the officer give Gordon to be cooperative?

Then scuffles ensue. Couldn't see clearly with the camera angle....... but Gordon basically decided to up and fight with the officer.




I'm sorry..... but death was pretty much a probability at that point.

It's the distinction we must be able to make between just plain police brutality and murder......... and instances where the suspect just doesn't know enough to follow orders and preserve his own life.

Did the police have tasers? If they did they should have been used or CS gas spray first.

The poor guy had a valid license, wasnt being detained or arrested, was asked if you would like to sit in the back of the cop car, was totally cooperating.....

after sitting a really long time and then being asked if he wanted to wear a mask, he panicked and bolted out of the car.

That fucking cop had no right to chase him, he was NOT arrested or detained, WHY WAS THE COP CHASING HIM?? IT MADE THE POOR GUY PANIC EVEN MORE

Of course there will be a struggle after that. The cop then told him SIT BACK IN THE CAR

HE SAT BACK IN THE CAR BUT WAS SO DISORIENTED HE SAT IN THE DRIVERS SEAT.

The cop then starts really roughing him up, and the struggle gets worse.

HE THEN SHOOTS THE MAN 7 TIMES TO DEATH

We as law-abiding citizens must pick our battles.

If we're going to blindly side with the victim every time there's an incident, that's where credibility erodes and polarization increases.

The taser point I'll agree to..... thank you @Master

Tasers exist for a reason, and cops seem to have forgotten their use. (Except when they get taken away from them... then it's ok to shoot the guy in the back :rolleyes: ).

Cops are too quick to pull their gun and use deadly force. Gordon needed to be subdued... but the cop should've tased the fuck out of him.

But FFS......... when is a certain sector of the public going to realize that it's not a "free-for-all" out there??

If the cop says SIT..... you sit. If he says STAND.... you stand. If you struggle.... if you fight..... if you run..... I'm sorry, but you're sort of asking for trouble.

If Gordon was in fact a schizophrenic, what in the hell was he doing alone behind the wheel of a car doing over 100 mph to the point where he was detained several times??

This is a two-way street. The door swings both ways in interactions between cops and citizens.

I am not excusing the man, but if someone is mentally vulnerable then they need help for their own good. If that means subduing him then they should do that but not with a gun.

Do they have CS gas in the USA? Police also have batons over here and they aim for the legs which is another way to subdue a perpetrator.

Can't wait for 100% of crime to be handled by social workers. What a Utopia that will be.



And motherfuckers want to take my guns? Hard no!

Alrighty then.

Let's take stock of where we all stand.

I'm not gonna start another thread on this, although I could.

In quick succession, we have:

1. Rayshard Brooks, shot in the back and killed by a white cop in Atlanta as he tried to run away.
2. Maurice Gordon, shot and killed during a scuffle on a New Jersey freeway after getting pulled over.


Here is where I stand, because I like to make things clear up front..........

1. Excessive deadly force... unwarranted shooting and killing. The cop should be brought up on charges, not to mention getting the hell thrown out of the police force.
2. Gordon should have been tased instead.... but he grappled with the cop after multiple instructions to sit and stay in the car. Gordon should be reprimanded for the use of lethal force, but no further.


As I understand it, NoSaving feels it was murder in both counts......... and Kabong feels the deaths were warranted in both counts.

At the risk of oversimplifying things, does this cover it accurately enough?

Shit..... maybe I will start a poll on this.

Tito I am not blindly defending him I watched the video myself first before I came to the conclusion that he was wrongfully executed

Police are public defenders. Police should be trained to recognize mental instability. The man was asked where he was going and he said stocker. The police officer asked him where is stocker is that in New Jersey? And the man answered no it's in the video game at the end of the Street. The police officer said, in a video game? And the Jamaican guy said yes it's at the end of the Street in the video game. Any well-trained police officer should suspect that he is either on some hallucinogenic drug or he is mentally unstable.

We have to factor in the mentally unstable and the mentally ill. Skitzofrenix are not forbidden from driving a car. There are different levels of schizophrenia. Some are functional and some are not.

We do not execute the mentally unstable or those who are high on substances. Police officers are public defenders I repeat police officers are public defenders I repeat their motto is protect and serve I repeat their motto is protect and serve police officers are public defenders they are there to protect and serve

police officers are trained to recognize mental illness and substance abuse

they should also recognize that at times people could be having a stroke and behaving bizarrely

.... the man bolted from the police car. He was not even under detainment or arrest. He had every right to get out of the police car and run away. The police officer had no right to forbid him from running away because he was a free man not being detained and not under arrest

A free man who is not being detained and is not under arrest should not be forbidden from running away freely. The police officer then wrongly try to detain and arrest him and that is when the struggle ensued

The police officer was wrong

Then the police officer executed an innocent man

So now the police officer will serve 20 years in jail for first-degree manslaughter and an innocent Jamaican man another black man was wrongfully executed

Tito I repeat I am not blindly defending these victims. Blindly would mean I did not watch the video before I came to my conclusion. I watch the video two times before I posted this thread

Of course if a police officer says sit or stand we should comply. But not everyone is clear-minded and clear-headed and not everyone is mentally stable at any given moment

A free innocent black man was executed by a white police officer

Bottom line

The officer with Gordon should have arrested him LONG AGO. That was long overdue.

If we're going to DEMAND reform with the police, we should also educate the public to NOT RESIST ARREST AND COOPERATE WITH THE POLICE.

How difficult can this be? It's not rocket science. You do not resist arrest... you increase your chances on not getting killed.

Well Tito to answer your question

The schizophrenic Jamaican should have been given some consideration like I said police officers are trained to recognize mental illness. Sometimes people are having a stroke and behaving strangely or under the influence. The man was a paranoid schizophrenic and I believe that after he was in the back of that car for a very long time he had some kind of panic attack and got out and ran. The police officer had no right to chase him or try to detain him because he was not being detained in the first place. Now while it was not a good move for the Jamaican guy to start the scuffle and struggle with the police officer I do not see why the police officer chased him in the first place when he was not being detained and he was not being arrested for anything so this has aggravated and agitated the schizophrenic and all he did was probably freak out and try to defend himself.

The cop pumped 7 bullets into him. master and you I agree with why wasn't a taser or pepper spray or a club or something used?

Why was seven shots pumped into the Jamaican? I mean really come on

The Jamaican was executed

to be honest the guy who was running in Atlanta and turned around and aimed a weapon at the police officer you could actually make an argument that the police officer in that case was maybe be maybe more scared because a weapon was being aimed at her.

I don't believe the Jamaican was aiming any weapon at the police officer but I could not see in the video so I will say that if the Jamaican had taken the police officer's gun at any point in the scuffle and aimed it at the police officer and the police officer got the gun back well I could see how the police officer then would freak out and shoot the Jamaican but I don't know why he would have to shoot the Jamaican and kill him with seven shots

Tito to answer your fan to answer your question I believe both cases are manslaughter. Although I can understand both police officers perspectives in each case that they did feel endangered

On the other hand, the cop that shot Brooks in the back should be thrown in jail immediately. Do not pass GO..... do not collect $200.

NOWHERE does it say a cop can shoot a suspect in the back as he's running away. NOWHERE.

and I also agree that as to the general public they really need to be trained to understand that they must comply and not fight back when a police officer tells them to stand up or sit down or put their hands up or stop running or whatever they ask

there is no doubt that some of these victims are making it much more complicated and bring the danger upon themselves by resisting and being audacious and disrespectful

Brooks turned and pointed a deadly weapon at the cop?? C'mon..... let's keep our stories straight here.

He turned and pointed a glow-in-the-dark taser at a cop (BTW... in the video this turning and pointing is not visible... maybe it was lightning quick :rolleyes: ).

The cop, "FEARFUL FOR HIS LIFE" :rolleyes: shot Brooks in the back.

2nd degree manslaughter for the guy.

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Brooks turned and pointed a deadly weapon at the cop?? C'mon..... let's keep our stories straight here.

He turned and pointed a glow-in-the-dark taser at a cop (BTW... in the video this turning and pointing is not visible... maybe it was lightning quick :rolleyes: ).

The cop, "FEARFUL FOR HIS LIFE" :rolleyes: shot Brooks in the back.

2nd degree manslaughter for the guy.

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that's what I said in the first place. It was a glow-in-the-dark taser with a light at the end and he should not have been executed. That's what I said in the first place. What I mentioned above was I can see the police saying that the Atlantic case is more cut-and-dry since there was a weapon aimed and the police officer could claim that it appeared to be a deadly weapon. That is what Lyle said. Lyle said it was a deadly weapon and I disagreed with Lyle and said no it was just a glow-in-the-dark taser.

what I just said a few posts above this was that the police could say they could try to make a case that the Atlanta one was more clear-cut since there was something being aimed which could have been taken as a weapon. I personally do not agree with that point of view but I am saying that I can see how some people would say that we'll try to make that argument

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Brooks turned and pointed a deadly weapon at the cop?? C'mon..... let's keep our stories straight here.

He turned and pointed a glow-in-the-dark taser at a cop (BTW... in the video this turning and pointing is not visible... maybe it was lightning quick :rolleyes: ).

The cop, "FEARFUL FOR HIS LIFE" :rolleyes: shot Brooks in the back.

2nd degree manslaughter for the guy.

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that's what I said in the first place. It was a glow-in-the-dark taser with a light at the end and he should not have been executed. That's what I said in the first place. What I mentioned above was I can see the police saying that the Atlantic case is more cut-and-dry since there was a weapon aimed and the police officer could claim that it appeared to be a deadly weapon. That is what Lyle said. Lyle said it was a deadly weapon and I disagreed with Lyle and said no it was just a glow-in-the-dark taser.

what I just said a few posts above this was that the police could say they could try to make a case that the Atlanta one was more clear-cut since there was something being aimed which could have been taken as a weapon. I personally do not agree with that point of view but I am saying that I can see how some people would say that we'll try to make that argument

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Sadly, after months of technicalities and legal posturing..... that'll be exactly what the defense will manage to impress upon the jury..... and the cop will walk. Rinse and repeat.

and also what I meant by that Tito is that the Jamaican guy was not arrested and was not detained and was just sitting in the back of the car waiting for a tow truck. He was totally innocent. So for me it is even more wrong that he was executed if we have to pick one which is more wrong I would choose the Jamaican as being more wrongfully executed. Again I am saying if I have to pick one. In actuality I don't have to pick one because they were both wrongfully executed in my opinion

the Cub had to know that it was a taser as I told Lyle in another thread because the man grabbed the taser right out of her hand so of course she knew it was her very own taser with a light blinking on the end of it I mean give me a break that is out-and-out execution.

the icing on the cake at Atlanta is that after he tries to fire the taser at the police officer he then turns around and continues to Sprint for one or two more steps and he was clearly shot in the back he was not shut while he was turned around me the taser but he was actually shot in the back after he turned back around to Sprint some more

that is what I get by watching it for a third time so therefore both of them are equally egregious executions

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and also what I meant by that Tito is that the Jamaican guy was not arrested and was not detained and was just sitting in the back of the car waiting for a tow truck. He was totally innocent. So for me it is even more wrong that he was executed if we have to pick one which is more wrong I would choose the Jamaican as being more wrongfully executed. Again I am saying if I have to pick one. In actuality I don't have to pick one because they were both wrongfully executed in my opinion

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We'll agree to disagree on that one, NoSaving. The Jamaican guy (IMO) practically BEGGED to be shot. "Walk this way sir" (away from oncoming traffic). The guy insists on going the other way. "Sit in the car." The guy repeatedly tries to bolt, even though the officer by this time was screaming at him to stay in the car. I'm sorry. I have very little sympathy for someone who stubbornly struggles against a guy with a badge and a gun.

Tito I see what you're saying. There's no question he should have listened and complied. By no means am I advocating non-compliance

but what about the fact that he was not being detained at all and he was not arrested at all and he was merely waiting for a tow truck? doesn't he have the right to get out of the police car as a free man and walk away as bizarre as it is?

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Tito I see what you're saying. There's no question he should have listened and complied. By no means am I advocating non-compliance

but what about the fact that he was not being detained at all and he was not arrested at all and he was merely waiting for a tow truck? doesn't he have the right to get out of the police car as a free man and walk away as bizarre as it is?

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If I have a cop yelling and screaming at me to "get back in the car" at the top of his lungs, No....... the last thing I'm doing is tangling with the guy in the middle of the street.

Whether or NOT I'm being detained.

Kabong's "stupid games and stupid prizes" line fits Gordon to a Tee.

Yes it certainly does. No question about it.

I just wish the cop would have shot him in the leg or tased him or pepper sprayed him

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the Cub had to know that it was a taser as I told Lyle in another thread because the man grabbed the taser right out of her hand so of course she knew it was her very own taser with a light blinking on the end of it I mean give me a break that is out-and-out execution.

the icing on the cake at Atlanta is that after he tries to fire the taser at the police officer he then turns around and continues to Sprint for one or two more steps and he was clearly shot in the back he was not shut while he was turned around me the taser but he was actually shot in the back after he turned back around to Sprint some more

that is what I get by watching it for a third time so therefore both of them are equally egregious executions

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You play with fire long enough you end up getting burned.

He was being placed under arrest. Had he complied he'd 100% still be alive.

This 'I can't breathe' 'hands up don't shoot' bullshit is INCENTIVIZING resisting arrest. I don't think it's good for anyone. If a cop says "you're under arrest" duke it out in court....take the L.

I for one would not even bat an eyelash or move a muscle if an armed police officer told me to freeze.... I would freeze and you would not know the difference between me and the South Pole on the winter solstice

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the Cub had to know that it was a taser as I told Lyle in another thread because the man grabbed the taser right out of her hand so of course she knew it was her very own taser with a light blinking on the end of it I mean give me a break that is out-and-out execution.

the icing on the cake at Atlanta is that after he tries to fire the taser at the police officer he then turns around and continues to Sprint for one or two more steps and he was clearly shot in the back he was not shut while he was turned around me the taser but he was actually shot in the back after he turned back around to Sprint some more

that is what I get by watching it for a third time so therefore both of them are equally egregious executions

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You play with fire long enough you end up getting burned.

He was being placed under arrest. Had he complied he'd 100% still be alive.

This 'I can't breathe' 'hands up don't shoot' bullshit is INCENTIVIZING resisting arrest. I don't think it's good for anyone. If a cop says "you're under arrest" duke it out in court....take the L.

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So now saying you cannot breathe or putting up your hands and asking someone not to shoot is INCENTIVING resisting arrest. What a stupid thing to say. And it is all very well for a square establishment hang with the elites white guy like yourself to be willing to duke it out in court, because not only will you have not spent a life being profiled and hassled for nothing other than the colour of your skin, but you know that everything about you will mean you can get away with murder. Literally.

But still here you are lecturing everyone on even in a situation you will never be in 'You know best'.

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the Cub had to know that it was a taser as I told Lyle in another thread because the man grabbed the taser right out of her hand so of course she knew it was her very own taser with a light blinking on the end of it I mean give me a break that is out-and-out execution.

the icing on the cake at Atlanta is that after he tries to fire the taser at the police officer he then turns around and continues to Sprint for one or two more steps and he was clearly shot in the back he was not shut while he was turned around me the taser but he was actually shot in the back after he turned back around to Sprint some more

that is what I get by watching it for a third time so therefore both of them are equally egregious executions

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You play with fire long enough you end up getting burned.

He was being placed under arrest. Had he complied he'd 100% still be alive.

This 'I can't breathe' 'hands up don't shoot' bullshit is INCENTIVIZING resisting arrest. I don't think it's good for anyone. If a cop says "you're under arrest" duke it out in court....take the L.

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So now saying you cannot breathe or putting up your hands and asking someone not to shoot is INCENTIVING resisting arrest. What a stupid thing to say. And it is all very well for a square establishment hang with the elites white guy like yourself to be willing to duke it out in court, because not only will you have not spent a life being profiled and hassled for nothing other than the colour of your skin, but you know that everything about you will mean you can get away with murder. Literally.

But still here you are lecturing everyone on even in a situation you will never be in 'You know best'.

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The 'hands up don't shoot' narrative is a LIE....you know what a lie is don't you Beanz?

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the Cub had to know that it was a taser as I told Lyle in another thread because the man grabbed the taser right out of her hand so of course she knew it was her very own taser with a light blinking on the end of it I mean give me a break that is out-and-out execution.

the icing on the cake at Atlanta is that after he tries to fire the taser at the police officer he then turns around and continues to Sprint for one or two more steps and he was clearly shot in the back he was not shut while he was turned around me the taser but he was actually shot in the back after he turned back around to Sprint some more

that is what I get by watching it for a third time so therefore both of them are equally egregious executions

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You play with fire long enough you end up getting burned.

He was being placed under arrest. Had he complied he'd 100% still be alive.

This 'I can't breathe' 'hands up don't shoot' bullshit is INCENTIVIZING resisting arrest. I don't think it's good for anyone. If a cop says "you're under arrest" duke it out in court....take the L.

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So now saying you cannot breathe or putting up your hands and asking someone not to shoot is INCENTIVING resisting arrest. What a stupid thing to say. And it is all very well for a square establishment hang with the elites white guy like yourself to be willing to duke it out in court, because not only will you have not spent a life being profiled and hassled for nothing other than the colour of your skin, but you know that everything about you will mean you can get away with murder. Literally.

But still here you are lecturing everyone on even in a situation you will never be in 'You know best'.

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The 'hands up don't shoot' narrative is a LIE....you know what a lie is don't you Beanz?

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Yes it the one you have been pedaling for years about there being no such thing as neo-nazis or racism.

If you think voting for the same party twice in 49 years makes someone an ideologue, and mistaking that once for twice, is enough for you to again virtue signal you exposing a liar, one can only pity your bitter and twisted outlook on life.

Again you will be very familiar on how deceptive and dishonest you have been here on the forum for nearly 20 years but to be more hung up about who i voted for then the guys you helped fund, support and pat on the back pissing on
statues of Police Officers killed defending democracy from terrorists, and throwing Nazi salutes in front of the Cenotaph, shows what a dangerous enemy of western democracy you and you fascist crew have always been.

Beanz here's a straightforward EASILY answered question: Is there a higher percentage of actual Nazis NOW or in 1938?

As per usual I expect you to bloviate without answering because the reality is quite damaging to how you perceive reality.

You lie constantly and you lie so fucking much you can't keep all the lies straight in your head. Why? What's the purpose? Just make an argument don't lie about yourself to try and win a debate. That's childish, but hey that's what you're comfortable with a 50 year old manchild.

I've not defended these football lads at all. You've certainly accused me of it, but not once have I said ANYTHING about them.

You've voted Labour how many times? And you're telling the truth now? Or is this your selective memory acting up again?

All I've ever said regarding Nazis is: let them say whatever they like because if they're out in the open they're easily identified and you can steer clear of them if you like. That's free speech, that's what it is. The speech that is protected isn't always the speech you agree with. And somehow you twisted that up so that I SUPPORT their speech instead of the right to speak freely....GIGANTIC difference.

A glimpse of how biased the police system really is as

This guy did worst and was not shot. Not even a gun came out for even a warning.

Or how about this white guy who killed 2 women & 1 child. Attacked officers while naked. Choked a church groundskeeper. But was detained alive.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c-ldYbHFXBk

This is what happens when a white man fights the police & then grabs the taser & then runs away & then attempts to steal the officer's car. What a surprise he lives.

Absolutely, and Ill say it again, if hundreds of BLACKS ARMED WITH SEMI AUTO WEAPONS STORMED INTO A CITY HALL OR A STATE GOVERNMENT BUILDING, there would have been major death, major major death against the blacks, cops and ATF wouldnt think twice, total carnage, but when some good ol Anglo Saxon boys with beards and american flags looking like THE BARBECUE PIT BOYS all hill-billied out with motorcycles and pickup trucks go in, hell no, no problems at all.

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Absolutely, and Ill say it again, if hundreds of BLACKS ARMED WITH SEMI AUTO WEAPONS STORMED INTO A CITY HALL OR A STATE GOVERNMENT BUILDING, there would have been major death, major major death against the blacks, cops and ATF wouldnt think twice, total carnage, but when some good ol Anglo Saxon boys with beards and american flags looking like THE BARBECUE PIT BOYS all hill-billied out with motorcycles and pickup trucks go in, hell no, no problems at all.

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BLM have marched with guns before 0 has happened to them.



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Did they forcibly occupy a State Government Building? How many were armed in your example?

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Did they forcibly occupy a State Government Building? How many were armed in your example?

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No and neither have whites "forcibly" done so.

5 years ago this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLqXYF3ephY


More recently this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1_AdaZvm6g



0 people killed, 0, none, nada. But keep trying to stir shit up, try harder

looks like about 10 people there, Gerald The Smoking Jacket. Believe it was hundreds of whites who occupied City Hall in Michigan. 10 vs 100's........


yyyyyyyyeah, a bit of a diff, Ger.

Hey Ger, I believe you called me Steve, so I can call you Lyle, OK, Ger?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXXFf0Q2bcU

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looks like about 10 people there, Gerald The Smoking Jacket. Believe it was hundreds of whites who occupied City Hall in Michigan. 10 vs 100's........


yyyyyyyyeah, a bit of a diff, Ger.

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1-10-100-1000000 doesn't matter the point is proven. Open carry in a state with open carry regardless of color and everything is A-OK.

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Hey Ger, I believe you called me Steve, so I can call you Lyle, OK, Ger?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXXFf0Q2bcU

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Come on, try harder, you can do it....little more, little more

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Beanz here's a straightforward EASILY answered question: Is there a higher percentage of actual Nazis NOW or in 1938?

As per usual I expect you to bloviate without answering because the reality is quite damaging to how you perceive reality.

You lie constantly and you lie so fucking much you can't keep all the lies straight in your head. Why? What's the purpose? Just make an argument don't lie about yourself to try and win a debate. That's childish, but hey that's what you're comfortable with a 50 year old manchild.

I've not defended these football lads at all. You've certainly accused me of it, but not once have I said ANYTHING about them.

You've voted Labour how many times? And you're telling the truth now? Or is this your selective memory acting up again?

All I've ever said regarding Nazis is: let them say whatever they like because if they're out in the open they're easily identified and you can steer clear of them if you like. That's free speech, that's what it is. The speech that is protected isn't always the speech you agree with. And somehow you twisted that up so that I SUPPORT their speech instead of the right to speak freely....GIGANTIC difference.

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Why are you such a pathological liar? Grow a pair and just admit that you have a hard on for neo Nazis. For years you have told us they are rare as Unicorns while all around the world their numbers have been growing. There being less 'actual Nazis' now than in 1938 is neither here nor there. It has never been my assertion that there are more 'Actual Nazis' now than then. That is you in your intellectual bunker, like the debate bunker bitch that you are, hiding away from ever admitting you are wrong on virtually everything.

Me voting twice for the same party in the last three years but not once in the previous 40 is evidence that unlike you I am not the closed mind Idealogue you do wish I was, nothing else.

You absolutely support these guys and have done for years. Britain First, Tommy Robinson, the UVF they are are convicted criminals and terrorist organisations but because you like the cut of their jib you consider them friendly rather than hostile.

These Fakeriot cunts are your kind of people. Like the fucking Proud Boys and others you love to defend they are a sucker punch, attack the weakest, shoot people in the back kind of crew whose violence you have excused since day one.

Beanz get a grip on reality will you? Seriously you're spiraling.