Yes Yes đ Smith in September then GGG in May 2021
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Yes Yes đ Smith in September then GGG in May 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/12197...box=1595451516
Well if this happens , I would give top kudos to Canelo. Not because I necessarily think he would win or lose.
But I canât think of another occasion when Canelo gave away most of the advantages or didnât do things completely on his terms (Floyd fight excepted obviously.)
Easy fight for canelo. callum wants that extra million because he knows he's going to sleep & it'll be back to domestic level. ryder already beat that fraud
I just hate for the GGG trilogy push. The time has passed. GGG won the first fight and most people thought he won the second fight. Then I thought he lost to Derevyanchenko. Itâs just pointless. There are tons of other fights I would rather see Canelo in anywhere from middleweight to light heavyweight.
^ Same really never was big at all on the trilogy. Canelo has moved up only to come full circle and as much as I respect and like Golovkin he just went full puppy dog following him around so easily. Smith v Canelo is full respectable but Canelo needs to expand on 'greatness'.
Instead of this GGG trilogy B.S..................... how about Beterbiev?
Oops.... sorry. Forgot we're not supposed to consider live, in-their-prime opponents who represent a real danger. :-X
ggg could fight artur while canelo lays out callumQuote:
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Yeah you're right. Beterbiev's not damaged or over-the-hill yet.
line them up & canelo will knock them down. canelo can only fight one at a time. artur is getting to that age where you won't give canelo credit anyway. once canelo puts callum to bed you'll be saying ryder already exposed him. i think you're mad because your mother lusts after caneloQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICggg could fight artur while canelo lays out callumQuote:
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Yeah you're right. Beterbiev's not damaged or over-the-hill yet.
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Originally Posted by TICline them up & canelo will knock them down. canelo can only fight one at a time. artur is getting to that age where you won't give canelo credit anyway. once canelo puts callum to bed you'll be saying ryder already exposed him. i think you're mad because your mother lusts after caneloQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICggg could fight artur while canelo lays out callumQuote:
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Yeah you're right. Beterbiev's not damaged or over-the-hill yet.
This is the Boxing board. Keep your issues limited to the other boards.
i am talking about a boxer named canelo & your mothers lust for him. oscar also had a lot of female admirersQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICline them up & canelo will knock them down. canelo can only fight one at a time. artur is getting to that age where you won't give canelo credit anyway. once canelo puts callum to bed you'll be saying ryder already exposed him. i think you're mad because your mother lusts after caneloQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICggg could fight artur while canelo lays out callumQuote:
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Yeah you're right. Beterbiev's not damaged or over-the-hill yet.
This is the Boxing board. Keep your issues limited to the other boards.
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Anyway... back to boxing. I think a majority of hardcore fans have little to no interest in the trilogy. Probably most of the casuals do. Yes... Golovkin pretty much pimped himself out following the $$$, which may be tough to criticize from this side... but did zilch for his legacy. I might add that if he thought he'd get the nod in a decision fight vs. Canelo....... I have some beachfront property in Nebraska I might be able to sell him on. Canelo and his "greatness" is of course a subject of much debate, particularly the degree of it. But assuming he's got something to "expand" on....... IMO it should be a live, dangerous body. No weight advantages..... no diva clauses...... no bullshit decimal point catchweights...... but someone his own size with the power and skills to bother Canelo. Also preferably someone in his 30's.
Yeh that's what I'm saying why go to 175 just to leave..plenty of fresh talent there , then assuming he handles Smith impressively leave 168..pleanty of fresh talent there too. Seems a little anti climactic at this point as Golovkin adds another year and probably gets a soft touch to keep him busy as his top two ranked mandatories are the infamous battle hardened 'NOT RATED'. Starting to wonder if they maneuver the nice and shiny but highly flawed Esquiva Falcao in there.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
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Anyway... back to boxing. I think a majority of hardcore fans have little to no interest in the trilogy. Probably most of the casuals do. Yes... Golovkin pretty much pimped himself out following the $$$, which may be tough to criticize from this side... but did zilch for his legacy. I might add that if he thought he'd get the nod in a decision fight vs. Canelo....... I have some beachfront property in Nebraska I might be able to sell him on. Canelo and his "greatness" is of course a subject of much debate, particularly the degree of it. But assuming he's got something to "expand" on....... IMO it should be a live, dangerous body. No weight advantages..... no diva clauses...... no bullshit decimal point catchweights...... but someone his own size with the power and skills to bother Canelo. Also preferably someone in his 30's.
Iâm getting more and more respect for Canelo, and maybe he does iron out Smith. But I wouldnât put too much emphasis on the Ryder fight.Quote:
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Yes, it was a shit performance for him , probably the worst of his career. And Yes, Canelo is favourite.
But Smith definitely has a chance.
you are able to post without getting your emotions involved. canelos record against top opponents speaks for itself. did you think callum beat john? either way why did callum look like shit? is he struggling to make weight? he is a big guy. i can already see the excuses when he loses to canelo. he needed to move up. he was never any good. john already beat him. i'll be mad if canelo wants any weight restrictions. but if there are none canelo will deserve respect for a victoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIâm getting more and more respect for Canelo, and maybe he does iron out Smith. But I wouldnât put too much emphasis on the Ryder fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Yes, it was a shit performance for him , probably the worst of his career. And Yes, Canelo is favourite.
But Smith definitely has a chance.
Respect to Canelo for taking on Callum Smith. If he beats him then he is the best fighter at the weight and should be the Ring champion.
Callum Smith will win this fight.
âyou are able to post without getting your emotions involved.âQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou are able to post without getting your emotions involved. canelos record against top opponents speaks for itself. did you think callum beat john? either way why did callum look like shit? is he struggling to make weight? he is a big guy. i can already see the excuses when he loses to canelo. he needed to move up. he was never any good. john already beat him. i'll be mad if canelo wants any weight restrictions. but if there are none canelo will deserve respect for a victoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIâm getting more and more respect for Canelo, and maybe he does iron out Smith. But I wouldnât put too much emphasis on the Ryder fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Yes, it was a shit performance for him , probably the worst of his career. And Yes, Canelo is favourite.
But Smith definitely has a chance.
Did you really say that! ;D;D
I thought I was quite diplomatic and fair. When I want to get emotional, Iâll come to you for tips, trust me. :rolleyes:
âCanelo's record against top opponents speaks for itself. did you think callum beat john? â
Not sure, it doesnât matter what I think, same as it doesnât matter whether people think GGG beat Canelo in the 1st fight. (I never btw.) but like I said it WAS A POOR PERFORMANCE EITHER WAY.
âeither way why did callum look like shit? is he struggling to make weight? he is a big guy. i can already see the excuses when he loses to canelo.â
I hope youâre wrong and if he loses , they donât roll that shit out.
âhe needed to move up.â Maybe .
âhe was never any good.â I disagree.
âjohn already beat him.â Uh, no he never.
âi'll be mad if canelo wants any weight restrictions.â So would I, but it wouldnât surprise me.
âbut if there are none canelo will deserve respect for a victoryâ yes he will, I totally agree............
But one question for you. If Smith wins, will you give him respect?
Donât go being one of them pricks that say âso he should win, heâs way bigger, Canelo was robbed, blah, blah, bullshit.â
i was referring to other posters who are biased & get all emotional over certain fighters. if i was insulting you trust me you would know. it is a forum about boxing so posting your thoughts is the thing to do. just because the judges gave the fight to callum doesn't mean john didn't beat him. if callum wins i will give him full respect. if both fighters agree to the terms of the fight & step in the ring there should be no excuses & crying afterwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carneraâyou are able to post without getting your emotions involved.âQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou are able to post without getting your emotions involved. canelos record against top opponents speaks for itself. did you think callum beat john? either way why did callum look like shit? is he struggling to make weight? he is a big guy. i can already see the excuses when he loses to canelo. he needed to move up. he was never any good. john already beat him. i'll be mad if canelo wants any weight restrictions. but if there are none canelo will deserve respect for a victoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIâm getting more and more respect for Canelo, and maybe he does iron out Smith. But I wouldnât put too much emphasis on the Ryder fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Yes, it was a shit performance for him , probably the worst of his career. And Yes, Canelo is favourite.
But Smith definitely has a chance.
Did you really say that! ;D;D
I thought I was quite diplomatic and fair. When I want to get emotional, Iâll come to you for tips, trust me. :rolleyes:
âCanelo's record against top opponents speaks for itself. did you think callum beat john? â
Not sure, it doesnât matter what I think, same as it doesnât matter whether people think GGG beat Canelo in the 1st fight. (I never btw.) but like I said it WAS A POOR PERFORMANCE EITHER WAY.
âeither way why did callum look like shit? is he struggling to make weight? he is a big guy. i can already see the excuses when he loses to canelo.â
I hope youâre wrong and if he loses , they donât roll that shit out.
âhe needed to move up.â Maybe .
âhe was never any good.â I disagree.
âjohn already beat him.â Uh, no he never.
âi'll be mad if canelo wants any weight restrictions.â So would I, but it wouldnât surprise me.
âbut if there are none canelo will deserve respect for a victoryâ yes he will, I totally agree............
But one question for you. If Smith wins, will you give him respect?
Donât go being one of them pricks that say âso he should win, heâs way bigger, Canelo was robbed, blah, blah, bullshit.â
GGG is old.
Canelo will look for the KO this time around.
Floyd beat Canelo very easily and he was way past his prime like GGG..letâs take a small moment to realise how great Floyd is as a boxer..(TBE)
Smith is a big, super middleweight and still in his prime..itâs a good fight!
BJS must fight Charlo or Andrade next..no more wasting time.