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Let’s say it takes place November/December this year, what exactly will Whyte have to do to get the win.
If he wins, he still gets the winner of Fury/Wilder 3 on December the 19th..if he does lose again, then it’s back to square one.
Would bringing back Mark Tibbs as head trainer add anything else to his game?
Do you even want Whyte to win?
Can Whyte turn it around in the rematch? He should have come out throwing non stop bombs in the 5th not sat back being "non greedy" as his corner badly advised him.
You drop a guy twice with 70% power shots you go after him with 100% power shots and finish him off.
Few little adjustments and Dillian should win by stoppage next time out but Povetkin has his number now and just needs to land that left hand once.
Still a pick em fight for me!
Whyte UD.
He's going to be extra cautious next time out because he knows Povetkin carries dynamite.
Whyte might even force a stoppage late if he gets more aggressive because Povetkin's punch resistance is on the wane & he's not getting any younger.
I think the complete opposite, if I was Whyte I'd be looking for the KO early, he dropped Povetkin with 2 punches that weren't full power shots pretty easily so that definitely tells us Povetkins punch resistance has faded.
Wonder what Mark Tibbs made of last night?
I’d fancy Povetkin to do a repeat job.
Pressure all on Dillian.
Not many win a rematch after being sparked clean out. History tells you that
Joshua v Pulev
Fury v Wilder
Whyte v Povetkin
That's some run up to Xmas if these do happen in December :cool:
Whyte goes down hard against Povetkin the ref doesn't count the full 10. Fury goes down just as hard against Wilder but the ref counts the full 10 and Fury get up to get a draw.
I can't stand the refs who waves fights off without counting the full 10. Makes my blood boil.
Yes. Whyte would not have beaten the count anyway. But that's not the point. From 1sec to 5sec he was in the exact same comatosed state as Fury.
There needs to be mandatory rule that you always give the full count of ten.
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Do you suspect the ref last night was a racist? ;D
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Whyte cannot win the rematch. He's been sparked out cold and you cant forget that shit, it haunts you. If he has any chance at all he should just try to blast him out in the 1st round or maybe fight at a distance and keep him away with a long jab, counter him rushing in, move to the side.
I see Povetkin landing another crusher in about the 5th again, maybe not a one punch nuke, but a combo, another KO.
Whyte has had a lot of wars and taken many punches.
Maybe his punch resistance is waning, we will have to wait and see.
That punch would have sparked out pretty much anyone, I don't think you can question someone's ability to take a punch when the punch in question was quickly nicknamed The Uppercut From Hell on this forum.Quote:
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From Whytes perspective he will prefer to get knocked sparko with that one punch rather than take a sustained beating for 12 rounds.
Listening to his post fight interviews he seems to be taking the L pretty well (Wilder should take note) I hope he gets the rematch in before Xmas and I'd like to see him get the win next time.
Doesn't look good for Whyte even if he wins the rematch.
WBC President pretty much saying the whole cycle will have to start again.
Only bonus to all this is that we should see Joshua v Fury sooner.
https://youtu.be/K5xLrlCYpos
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I think you have serious issues, you'll be telling us that Howard Foster was Gingerphobic next because he stopped George Groves controversially.
Anyone else a bit sick of these rematch clauses in any semi important bout?
Especially when these guys fight once a year or so. And it generally is always the case of when the guy that was supposed to win losses. Why didn't Parker get a rematch against Whyte for instance? He had him in all sorts of trouble at the end buy lost on the cards, rightly so. Maybe there was a rematch clause they wasn't taken up, I don't know, but my mind says that's unlikely.
It'll never happen because it is kind of a safety net for a promoter to get their guy back in to make up for the loss, but they should probably only be allowed to exercise a rematch clause if the fight was a close fought contest. As in either both guys went down at some point in the fight (maybe one got the stoppage eventually but was in trouble earlier), or the case of Whyte-Pasrker above warrented a rematch or if it the fight is a close decision.
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It is annoying and as far as I'm concerned Povetkin has earned the right to fight the Fury v Wilder winner.
He beat the mandatory fair and square so should occupy that position now.
We all saw it coming didn't we? Didn't expect it, especially after the fourth round but we knew the danger was there and Povetkin delivered. It was a perfect storm if you like. Change of trainer, last minute corner changes, on the cusp of a title shot (apparently) no crowd, dominant previous round. Whyte was coasting. It all added up to 'something' happening.
I thought Dillian fought a good fight. I thought his instructions were good. I don't buy the argument that he let him off the hook. The two knockdowns were good. The first left hook was a bit of a knock over but the two right hands Povetkin ate prior we're full blooded, they did the damage. The second was a cute inside left hook that Dillian likes and is good at. Povetkin was never really on queer street though was he? Good knockdowns, decent punches landed but he was up pretty quickly, looked OK and the round was over before he could do any more damage. The fight was over after 20 seconds of the fifth round. Other than running across the ring at the bell and throwing the kitchen sink what else was he supposed to do? Dangerous puncher across the ring from him, he's breaking him down at a canter, keep doing it and let the finish come in the next round or two.
I think it was Joshua that peddled this finish him off stuff wasn't it? The window was tiny, barely there, and Joshua of all people should know better.
In Dillians head, he gets a December rematch, wins it and all is well in the World. He's back to where he started. Given what he's been through to get there the first time, does he really think he's going to be fighting for a title in two fights time? No one was knocking down any doors for him before hand.
It's a bit of a double edged sword the manner of the loss. He got chinned good and proper, one punch knockout. We've seen it happen to better fighters than Dillian Whyte and we've seen the result reversed. I just got unlucky, careless, I was bossing the fight etc..
It has to change your mindset though. And for someone that screams maximum violence, going into your shell even a bit, just isn't good enough. A great run of form over a number of years hasn't been good enough to force a title shot. Carefully getting past Povetkin in a safety first rematch won't sell it either.
I mentioned it last week and Al has here. That good run of form has taken a toll on Dillian. He picked up some good wins but all at a cost and he's ridden his luck on a few occasions. Difficult to say after that thunderbolt but the resistance might not be what it once was. The two times he's faced powerful blokes with a bit of technique who can land those big punches with precision, rather than agricultural whacks like Del Boy or Rivas, he's come unstuck and been knocked out badly.
I hope he gets the rematch, I hope he wins it and gets his title shot. He's earned one. First time around it was a case of Dillian too big, strong, fresh, but Povetkin can still punch and that left hand....
Now, a rematch is fifty fifty and no amount of dominance for the first four rounds will change that. Dillian is stronger, bigger, fresher, but Povetkin only needs to land once.
If Fury and Wilder had been facing the competition Whyte has the big three wouldn't exist. Best thing that ever happened to Wilder was swerving Povetkin and there's a reason Fury fights a bunch of "gimmes" before any "top" guy.
Ironically Dillian looked better than ever. Just got outplayed by a brilliant veteran who's continually underrated because he's a Russian not American. Povetkin has a highlight reel of one punch KO's against top opposition going back donkey's years. And his finish was a piece of art.
And fuck the Fury-Wilder winner. Why do we need that again? It's done. And fuck Joshua-Pulev mandatory too. Fuck the belts. The modern day "hardcore" fan is more gassed by belts and bling than ever. If any fan says they're not interested in Fury-AJ without the belts they're not a boxing fan. Fact. Wilder and Fury should have been facing Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz, Rivas, Uysk, Ortiz, Parker, Chisora etc a long time ago. Fuck the big three. We need one clear champion then everyone mentioned is a viable elite world-class challenger. (sorry, got a bit carried away with the rant)
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I think you have serious issues, you'll be telling us that Howard Foster was Gingerphobic next because he stopped George Groves controversially.
What is the stand down period in the UK after being stopped? December might be a bit soon.
A rematch will probably be another case of who can take what the other has to offer.
Pretty sure you have to wait a full month before you can even spar after a KO loss.
I know Fury did after the first Wilder fight
Eddie Hearn insists Dillian Whyte 'has to rematch Alexander Povetkin by the end of November at the latest' before Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder III so winner can push WBC for title shot
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...-November.html
I had my modest £10 on Povetkin at 3-1, only to find that bastard Hearn wanted money to watch the fight! So I went to bed and picked up the next day. Anyone who thinks a rematch will sell on PPV is deluded.Quote:
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