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Are you getting a flu shot this year
I had to get another covid test a week or so ago. I was at work and had some symptoms. It was very annoying I knew 99.9% I didn’t have covid but I work with a vulnerable population. I couldn’t in good faith go by my gut. Also a large percentage of the people I work with don’t follow any safe practices when in public and in many cases have poor hygienic practices. So I’d be concerned of both getting it from them but more so giving it to them. I used an hour and half of sick time and went and got an instant test which was negative. I asked the doctor what to do in such cases, he told me to try Tylenol and or allergy meds first. He called me in some allergy meds.
So I go pick up the allergy meds. The pharmacy is giving out free flu shots. I know those flu shots can be hit or miss and I’ve gotten one in the past and felt kinda shitty from it but then I start thinking if allergy’s makes me miss work imagine the flu. My place being in the medical field is already talking about mandating the flu shot but that is a different story. So with all the crap going on I got the shot. My state had a less than 1% transmission rate but things are still all screwed up. I’m trying to get people services and with the shutdown so many people are suffering and everything is done by phone I have literally spent 3hrs of my 8hr work day on hold (via phone) yes I use speaker phone so I can do paperwork etc but in some cases that isn’t possible. So, long babble but I thought all things considered this is the year to get the flu shot, even though I have no clue what’s in the damn thing and yes I felt like crap the next day.
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Here is a list of some of the morbidities our clients have. Major depression, bi-polar, diabetes, schizoaffective d/o, borderline personality d/o, paranoid schizophrenia, autism, many have poly substance abuse to the point where one was misdiagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and is now thought just to be on the spectrum but he was strung out on meth for years I guess a doctor in California slapped that label on him and to this day he is getting billed as a paranoid schizophrenic as once a doc puts a label on you it’s hard to shake which is screwed up. That is just a sample of the illnesses a lot of diabetics as well I don’t know if that is from medications, diet hereditary or whatever I’m just dealing with what’s in front of me I can’t make that call
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Along with a flu shot I might order Spence vs Garcia
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I should also mention the administration made sure the CDC flooded the country with the flu shot hoping most people will get the shot for various reasons. Those are the pharmacist words not mine. I don’t recommend it to anyone that’s a decision we all have to make ourselves but I’ll just tell you the injection site was sore for several days and for a day or two I felt a little crappy but bounced back quick. I’m not a big advocate of these vaccines just seems prudent now if you are out and about. It’s kinda sad to see we have a less than 1% transmission rate but businesses are still closing left and right as our governor won’t relent. I’m not saying open 100% but we have met and surpassed to federal guidelines to move into another opening phase but nope, businesses just closing all over here
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Our work place offer a flu jab every year but I never take up their offer. They also offered health checks but stopped that now.
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You knocked back something free? You've changed.
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To each's own. I guess for me: follow what our grandparents did (or grandmoms) the food/practice usually were the best for our immune system. Eating out was a rarity and the food she cooked, today are called booster for the immune system. I remember her getting ill/flu like symptoms just once in my life. She lived close to 90. Not saying dont get one, but my mom has to get one based on her healthcare provider and I am disgusted by it because she has caught the flu 2 out of 4 shots. or bad reaction to it? Whatever is at the pharmacists? Seems 50/50. if not lesser odds.
Funny looking back on how my grandmother (mom's side) would get on our case for small stuff like we couldn't put anything in refrigerator without wiping it down, I thought it was silly, but today her practice would be considered on point for airborne illness/infectious agents surviving on surfaces, bottles etc.
My dad's mom past before I was 3, but heard she was similar, ate to live as opposed of living to eat what taste good.
Social/societal wise its a double edged sword. Ideology for liberals and conservative IMO are both careless, hypocritical always quick to point out what others are doing wrong for prevention of covid, yet quick to justify when they do it, so seems in your field take the pill of- damned if U do, damned if you don't.
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I would get one like from a neighborhood pharmacist. It seems pre 1970s, corner pharmacists knew their customers, from members and their ailments and usually offered 2 remedies
1st was natural and the 2nd was a pill/shot.
But since pharmacists have been turned into business chains- some young kid gives U the prescription and the head pharmacist may talk to you if it is some heavy drugs being administered. And doctors for the most part are never involved in giving shots.
Walgreens or CVC pharmacist asks questions, that back in the day, corner-neighborhood pharmacist knew by dealing with the family for years. In Milwaukee it was a guy named Dr. Carter aka Carter Pharmacy -
https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronaviru...-public-spaces
Here is how the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel identified him when asking his take on the pandemic
Beloved Milwaukee pharmacist Dr. Lester Carter shares advice for returning to public spaces
Look at how upright in the video this 88 year old man still is! Walks pretty darn good too! To this day he offers immune-remedies, not magical cures. When giving flu shots or pills he gives his staff knowledge on what pills or shots replaces- that was once used.
His position- is wearing a mask is ok, but rather than preference on this thing called social distancing- why not STRESS on boosting the IMMUNE SYSTEM!!
In other words we can social distanced from here until 2030...wear masks and eye goggles, that shit aint gonna eliminate what a man who has fought in Korean & Vietnam wars says he has never seen a disease or virus have the impact on people the way this covid -19 has.
He gives it take on George Floyd's death being used by bad people to tear up businesses- not related to this topic- but the video in that links offers that.
I'd wager in every major city there is still a Dr. Carter. Be it in an all white, or Hispanic community- their customers I'd wager are the least likely to succumb to covid deaths, flu deaths because they have their priorities str8!
My point is- when he says he is now assisting some customers who have brought their kids aka (3rd generational) he knows about them. Knows what ails them, which family members have bad reactions from drugs.
That's who is supposed to administer our pills, our shots.
A Pharmacist that can say- You want condoms? I remember when you were a baby and your mom bought talcum powder for your bottom! That's the one who requests a flu shot? Then get one. His/Hers!!
https://youtu.be/GS-IGXlTBeo
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Our work place offer a flu jab every year but I never take up their offer. They also offered health checks but stopped that now.
I don’t know how that would work if the company mandated it here. I don’t think they would supply it, just say you had to get one. But like I said it hasn’t been enacted yet so who knows. I just heard it was brought up in a meeting with the higher ups. I’m just a grunt so these things trickle down and you take them as they come. I do need to get a yearly physical and I need to take care of that but that is kind of a wash since my insurance covers yearly physicals. IMO if these places mandate shit they should cover the tab. I could bring that up I’m sure they would be very interested in my opinion.
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Honestly haven't had a flu shot since I was in my teens.
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Honestly haven't had a flu shot since I was in my teens.
Understood. And I usually don’t get them. But are you thinking of getting one with what’s going on now. Like I said my area has a less than 1% transmission rate but I figure it won’t hurt to be overly cautious this year. Or are you definitely abstaining. I support either way just curios
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According to what I’m reading the flu vaccine decreases your chances by 40% to 60% of getting it so even that is a gamble. Even that last covid test I got mentions the possibilities of false positives and false negatives. Makes you scratch your head a bit.
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Spicoli
Honestly haven't had a flu shot since I was in my teens.
Understood. And I usually don’t get them. But are you thinking of getting one with what’s going on now. Like I said my area has a less than 1% transmission rate but I figure it won’t hurt to be overly cautious this year. Or are you definitely abstaining. I support either way just curios
It's weird like that. I've just honestly never thought about it. Back in the day we'd get loaded up in the beater Station wagon and taken annually to the Doctor for shots. I'm not in the anti-pro vaccination hub bub but in a way have to wonder if you're opening oneself up to more potential problems introducing any vaccine after 30 years dormant ???.
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Honestly haven't had a flu shot since I was in my teens.
Understood. And I usually don’t get them. But are you thinking of getting one with what’s going on now. Like I said my area has a less than 1% transmission rate but I figure it won’t hurt to be overly cautious this year. Or are you definitely abstaining. I support either way just curios
It's weird like that. I've just honestly never thought about it. Back in the day we'd get loaded up in the beater Station wagon and taken annually to the Doctor for shots. I'm not in the anti-pro vaccination hub bub but in a way have to wonder if you're opening oneself up to more potential problems introducing any vaccine after 30 years dormant ???.
Ya, I’m not sure of that one either. Not sure of very much lately tbh. Like I said I’m not against vaccines I just don’t usually get them. If not for this other thing going around I probably wouldn’t have bothered
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They normally inject a flu strain from the previous year and you become immune to that particular one. However you could still get a different flu and the thought of getting injected for no good reason does not appeal to me.
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They normally inject a flu strain from the previous year and you become immune to that particular one. However you could still get a different flu and the thought of getting injected for no good reason does not appeal to me.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-selection.htm
Well master it seems to be a little more involved than using last years flu but perhaps it’s different the Britain and the bottom line being it’s not a sure thing anyway. 40-60% effective or success rate. That’s what the material I was given when I got the shot said. I’ve read 46% of those who get covid are asymptomatic. I guess it’s similar odds as getting covid and feeling nothing. What’s going on in England? Is the flu shot being pushed cause they are pushing it here. They “the powers that be that is” don’t want a bunch of people getting the flu, freaking out thinking they have covid. They really flooded the flu shot and made it extremely easy and free to get. My state is still hovering around the 1% transmission rate but my neighbor who works at a local hospital told me they had four recent admissions for covid. He stated if there is a second wave the medical community
is confident they can handle it, he said if you are in decent health you will survive but he did say male Hispanics seem to get hit harder than others. Now he works at a city hospital in my state and this city, about 20 minutes from me has a large Hispanic population so I’m not clear if he was saying male Hispanics in general or just the ones he has treated.
Anyway I gotta bring 4 people to get a flu shot and now I have administration asking me how we should do it as technically these people can’t be brought into stores due to state rules. They are actually asking me if the pharmacist will come outside to administer a shot. Wtf use your brain no they won’t come out of the store to administer a shot. You guys want to make crazy guidelines, tell everyone to follow them and now you see the rules you set don’t play out in the real world that’s not on me.
They did it to me today as well, I was taking someone who lives independently for bloodwork they said “oh can you bring this residential dude” I said sure but remember you guys made the rule not to mix the two at any time? They let slip a verbal shit. It’s funny to see the people who set the rules in offices patting themselves on the back come face to face with how impossible they make things. Things like this used to make me mad, now I just remind them of their rules and tell them if they want me to break them I will but they need to send me an email stating it.
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Sorry I got off topic and rambled. As far as this flu shot thing goes I guess it would be possible to get the flu and covid at the same time right? As a matter of fact perhaps you would be more susceptible to getting covid when you have the flu if you are all run down and beat up. I don’t know I’m not a big vaccine dude but it just seems if you are ever going to get a flu vaccine this would be the year. If we are freaking out and taking all these precautions over something that half the people who get it don’t even know they have it but your paranoid as you might give it to someone who isn’t in that half that don’t feel anything we might as well top it off with a flu shot.
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I have not heard them push the flu shot this year probably because the are dealing with covid 19 virus. My dad normally gets it every year. The weather has changed and people are getting the sniffles and coughs now thinking it is the virus when it is not.
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I have not heard them push the flu shot this year probably because the are dealing with covid 19 virus. My dad normally gets it every year. The weather has changed and people are getting the sniffles and coughs now thinking it is the virus when it is not.
I wouldn't get the vaccine if somebody paid me
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Master, they are pushing the 'flu shot this year .... they have said that over 50's can also have a free vaccine this year (the numbers will depend on how many are left over after the usual over 60's are done). Sort of makes sense this year for lots of reasons.
Incidentally, the doctor who started the whole anti-vaccine thing, claiming that MMR gave people autism, has been thoroughly and provably scientifically discredited as a charlatan. Having lived in Africa in my youth, I saw vaccines save millions of lives.
So, I will probably have one if I can. It's personal choice whether other people decide not to, but it likely leads to diseases surviving longer in the population and giving opportunity for them to evolve immunity to the jabs?
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.... but then again, Man never landed on the moon, the earth is actually flat, Covid isn't real and is the result of a massive joined-up conspiracy, US paedophiles get their kids from a pizza parlour, the royal family are really lizard Aliens ;D
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Not sure WTF covid19 's origin is, but Im pretty sure at this fucking point IT DID NOT COME FROM BAT SOUP.
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.... but then again, Man never landed on the moon, the earth is actually flat, Covid isn't real and is the result of a massive joined-up conspiracy, US paedophiles get their kids from a pizza parlour, the royal family are really lizard Aliens ;D
can you tell me how you know covid is real?
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Yes, I can 🤔
:happy0931sb4::happy0931sb4::happy0931sb4: fucking hell man :lolhaha::lolhaha::lolhaha::foruml10gc5:
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Yes, I can 🤔
when you're ready
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Yes, I can 🤔
when you're ready
You mean when you're ready to open your eyes and see what the world is going through.
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Yes, I can 🤔
when you're ready
You mean when you're ready to open your eyes and see what the world is going through.
what you believe the world is going through. waiting to hear how you know anytime you're ready
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Yes, I can 🤔
when you're ready
You mean when you're ready to open your eyes and see what the world is going through.
what you believe the world is going through. waiting to hear how you know anytime you're ready
You will never be ready to hear what everyone else knows is true.
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Yes, I can 🤔
when you're ready
You mean when you're ready to open your eyes and see what the world is going through.
what you believe the world is going through. waiting to hear how you know anytime you're ready
You will never be ready to hear what everyone else knows is true.
so when you're ready tell me how you know whats true
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.....aaaaaaaaand thats proof right there that ANYbody can say ANYthing, but it doesnt make it valid. How do you know you ate breakfast or lunch today? How do you know you are breathing right now? Hwo do you know this is a boxing forum? How do you know? How do you know? HOW DO YOU KNOW? You can train a parakeet to ask that question as a rebuttal to anything anyone ever says. It doesnt mean that it means anything though. Its just words:
h-o-w d-o y-o-u k-n-o-w , its just a combination of letters. Means nothing. That question means nothing. Has no meaning. "How do you know?"
:happy0931sb4::happy0931sb4::happy0931sb4::foruml1 0gc5::appl::appl::appl::badass:
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i know if i hold your head under water you will have trouble breathing within a few minutes
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But how do you know that? Have you tried it under laboratory conditions, or is there evidence from somebody who has?
Otherwise, surely you are just expressing a belief, possibly programmed into you at an early age by TV or films. Maybe even school, which is of course just a front for the Illuminati.
Somebody (other than me) might think you are just doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. How do you know that Brock would have trouble breathing underwater. Many animals can breathe underwater, you know. He may not be human.
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But how do you know that? Have you tried it under laboratory conditions, or is there evidence from somebody who has?
Otherwise, surely you are just expressing a belief, possibly programmed into you at an early age by TV or films. Maybe even school, which is of course just a front for the Illuminati.
Somebody (other than me) might think you are just doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. How do you know that Brock would have trouble breathing underwater. Many animals can breathe underwater, you know. He may not be human.
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try it yourself. doesn't have to be done in a lab to be proved true. no belief, you can try it. he may be a leprechaun but unless i can prove it that would just be an idea
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But how do you know that? Have you tried it under laboratory conditions, or is there evidence from somebody who has?
Otherwise, surely you are just expressing a belief, possibly programmed into you at an early age by TV or films. Maybe even school, which is of course just a front for the Illuminati.
Somebody (other than me) might think you are just doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. How do you know that Brock would have trouble breathing underwater. Many animals can breathe underwater, you know. He may not be human.
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Precisely. I mean first off, he couldnt do it. Let's eliminate that right off. And secondly, he never tried it before and can't show us how he knows it to be true.
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I didn’t mean to start controversy with this thread I posted it the day of or before I got my flu shot. I know many here are paranoid of wuhan, and I don’t mean that in a derogatory term just saying many threads here on covid end up like end times stuff. For that reason I just figured there would be a resounding “yes” to my question as if people are concerned about covid having such a massive impact this winter I thought most would want to give the flu shot a try to keep from thread the flu and ending up needing to see your doc taxing the healthcare system more. That was one reason I got it. If you are concerned about covid it makes sense to get the flu shot. TBH another motivating factor was getting the flu last year. It was like a month before covid became big news. It was definitely the sickest I have ever been and I would like to avoid that again.
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But how do you know that? Have you tried it under laboratory conditions, or is there evidence from somebody who has?
Otherwise, surely you are just expressing a belief, possibly programmed into you at an early age by TV or films. Maybe even school, which is of course just a front for the Illuminati.
Somebody (other than me) might think you are just doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. How do you know that Brock would have trouble breathing underwater. Many animals can breathe underwater, you know. He may not be human.
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Precisely. I mean first off, he couldnt do it. Let's eliminate that right off. And secondly, he never tried it before and can't show us how he knows it to be true.
you could try it live at your zoom meeting to prove me wrong. if you agree to submerge your head beneath water live on your zoom meeting we will see if i am correct that you will have trouble breathing within a few minutes. i'll attend. then we can all know if that's true
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But how do you know that? Have you tried it under laboratory conditions, or is there evidence from somebody who has?
Otherwise, surely you are just expressing a belief, possibly programmed into you at an early age by TV or films. Maybe even school, which is of course just a front for the Illuminati.
Somebody (other than me) might think you are just doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. How do you know that Brock would have trouble breathing underwater. Many animals can breathe underwater, you know. He may not be human.
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Precisely. I mean first off, he couldnt do it. Let's eliminate that right off. And secondly, he never tried it before and can't show us how he knows it to be true.
you could try it live at your zoom meeting to prove me wrong. if you agree to submerge your head beneath water live on your zoom meeting we will see if i am correct that you will have trouble breathing within a few minutes. i'll attend. then we can all know if that's true
You believe images on the interwebs?
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But how do you know that? Have you tried it under laboratory conditions, or is there evidence from somebody who has?
Otherwise, surely you are just expressing a belief, possibly programmed into you at an early age by TV or films. Maybe even school, which is of course just a front for the Illuminati.
Somebody (other than me) might think you are just doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. How do you know that Brock would have trouble breathing underwater. Many animals can breathe underwater, you know. He may not be human.
:confused:
Precisely. I mean first off, he couldnt do it. Let's eliminate that right off. And secondly, he never tried it before and can't show us how he knows it to be true.
you could try it live at your zoom meeting to prove me wrong. if you agree to submerge your head beneath water live on your zoom meeting we will see if i am correct that you will have trouble breathing within a few minutes. i'll attend. then we can all know if that's true
Are you asking for 'a practical demonstration', otherwise I suppose 'it is just words'?
Check.
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But how do you know that? Have you tried it under laboratory conditions, or is there evidence from somebody who has?
Otherwise, surely you are just expressing a belief, possibly programmed into you at an early age by TV or films. Maybe even school, which is of course just a front for the Illuminati.
Somebody (other than me) might think you are just doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing. How do you know that Brock would have trouble breathing underwater. Many animals can breathe underwater, you know. He may not be human.
:confused:
Precisely. I mean first off, he couldnt do it. Let's eliminate that right off. And secondly, he never tried it before and can't show us how he knows it to be true.
you could try it live at your zoom meeting to prove me wrong. if you agree to submerge your head beneath water live on your zoom meeting we will see if i am correct that you will have trouble breathing within a few minutes. i'll attend. then we can all know if that's true
Are you asking for 'a practical demonstration', otherwise I suppose 'it is just words'?
Check.
i'm asking him to show us if he thinks he can do something other than what we all know to be true spastic
