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Tank, Haney and everyone else in the division are very happy that Loma lost tonight.
No one stepped up to the plate like Lopez has done and I hope he remains undefeated.
Is this a case of styles makes fights and Tank would cause Lopez a different sense of problems.
They all hated on Loma (including Floyd) but in my opinion Loma will change the pressure in the rematch and possibly reverse the decision.
How do you see that one playing out or do you feel Lopez beating everyone around him?
Wait, Haney has called Loma out for years, Loma dropped his belt to not fight Haney, you can’t blame Haney for that.
Has Haney got the style to beat Lopez?
I think Haney is the real deal, but he has to beat somebody of note before he gets put in the mix. Let’s also wait until Tank fights in a couple of weeks to see how he looks. At the moment though, I think Lopez beats Tank.
There's a rematch clause? Gives Loma an opportunity to even the score and would the defeat open up more fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
There is no rematch clause but money talks.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogenThere's a rematch clause? Gives Loma an opportunity to even the score and would the defeat open up more fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Bob will convince Lopez to rematch Loma before he moves up to 140.
Surely the rematch with a potential post covid crowd will double the money that Lopez has earned.
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Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I think so too. Sure, we gotta see how he looks against Santa Cruz... but my last memory of him... taking until the very last round to dispatch a game but hobbled Gamboa... doesn't bode well for a potential matchup with Lopez.
I’m sure this opinion will be in the minority, but I feel like the size difference was the difference for Lopez winning. I also saw some bad signs when the much smaller Loma started putting punches together and pressure on Teo. Teo didn’t look comfortable or confident at all for a few rounds- although I do give him a ton of credit for coming out and dominating the twelfth round. I’m not sure if Tank is the guy to do it, but I feel the first fighter he faces who has a solid chin, solid boxing skills, and good stamina will beat him. I hope I’m wrong because I love his attitude and willingness to fight- but I just can’t help but feel that while besting Loma is impressive, that win was more about what Loma didn’t do than what Lopez did (likely due to the size differential).
I would personally love to see Lopez fight Mikey Garcia at 140. Both are similar sized and I think that would be a great match up.
Tank is a bit inconsistent for my taste- and I haven’t seen him best an elite fighter in their prime. I would bet on Lopez in that match up, but wouldn’t be surprised if Tank won either- I have a feeling Lopez will have a let down after the Loma fight.
Lopez vs Haney is a good match up, but I would lean towards Lopez right now. Haney is a very live underdog though, and I can see a solid case being made for Haney to outbox him over 12.
Any man that beats Loma immediately moves to the top of the hill. But the people that saw Haney spar Lopez say Lopez had absolutely nothing for Haney. Straight shooters saying it was ugly. But, sparring is only sparringQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
No, Loma’s team refused to offer a rematch clause, Lopez team asked for one since he had a belt.(at least according to Lopez team)Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogenThere's a rematch clause? Gives Loma an opportunity to even the score and would the defeat open up more fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
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Originally Posted by mikeeod
Teo did get hit quite a bit from rounds 8-11. A bit too easily to suit me. I think mostly Loma's straight left, whether behind the right jab, or whether a lead, found its target amazingly accurately. I don't know how it would all play out in a rematch, now that each knows what the other brings to the table. Lopez is young, bright, and quick... so I'd be amazed if he didn't make the necessary adjustments to avoid those shots. From Loma's side, hopefully he learned the painful (but obvious) lesson that you just can't give away 7 rounds of a 12-round fight and expect a different result than what he got. He'd come in more aggressively... and it's anybody's guess how Lopez would handle a more aggressive Loma from the get-go.
The issue is that Loma is extremely good. He isn’t just some random pretty good fighter. I would have a hard time believing anybody else from lightweight down would win as easily as Lopez. Loma went all out in those rounds and still only eeked out most of them. It’s not a shame at all to get hit by Loma when he is being aggressive. We aren’t saying that Lopez is a defensive genius but that he clearly beat one of the most skilled fighters in the world that can generally land at will.Quote:
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Originally Posted by mikeeod
Teo did get hit quite a bit from rounds 8-11. A bit too easily to suit me. I think mostly Loma's straight left, whether behind the right jab, or whether a lead, found its target amazingly accurately. I don't know how it would all play out in a rematch, now that each knows what the other brings to the table. Lopez is young, bright, and quick... so I'd be amazed if he didn't make the necessary adjustments to avoid those shots. From Loma's side, hopefully he learned the painful (but obvious) lesson that you just can't give away 7 rounds of a 12-round fight and expect a different result than what he got. He'd come in more aggressively... and it's anybody's guess how Lopez would handle a more aggressive Loma from the get-go.
Bob wanted Teo to win not Loma - (look at the cards). You can build a 23-year-old brash American into a PPV superstar not a 30+ unnassuming Russian. Loma's tickets and TV numbers are "terrible" Stateside.Quote:
Originally Posted by impThere is no rematch clause but money talks.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogenThere's a rematch clause? Gives Loma an opportunity to even the score and would the defeat open up more fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Bob will convince Lopez to rematch Loma before he moves up to 140.
Surely the rematch with a potential post covid crowd will double the money that Lopez has earned.
Lopez is talented and can adjust if he is properly prepared and He has similarities to an ex-heavyweight champ, Mike Tyson if he is prodded enough and pays attention during training. He is what is known as a high energy fighter and he has to be active to grow. His emotional state was more than adequate Saturday night because a great percentage in winning is emotional or inspirational. It was his strength but that becomes temporary in boxing life. Mike Tyson was a high energy fighter until someone with nothing to lose sole his thunder in Tokyo. I believe it was Ruthless Roper and Robbing Givens along with the guy with the haircut that pissed off boxing promoters that made Tyson an ex-high energy fighter. I'm not saying history repeats it self but a taste of the good life is where it begins next to believing your own press.
Lets answer the OPs question.
Lopez destroys Tank. Tank could barely beat a 38 year old battle worn Yuriorkis Gamboa. Tank "tanked" by the 6th round. He is wildly overrated and wont be around very long. Lopez may end his career.
I saw some shades of Hop-Taylor 1. Hop waited way too late, but when he turned on, he made it look somewhat easy, but it was too late. Whereas he turns on late as an age factor, with Loma it is his style.Quote:
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Originally Posted by mikeeod
Teo did get hit quite a bit from rounds 8-11. A bit too easily to suit me. I think mostly Loma's straight left, whether behind the right jab, or whether a lead, found its target amazingly accurately. I don't know how it would all play out in a rematch, now that each knows what the other brings to the table. Lopez is young, bright, and quick... so I'd be amazed if he didn't make the necessary adjustments to avoid those shots. From Loma's side, hopefully he learned the painful (but obvious) lesson that you just can't give away 7 rounds of a 12-round fight and expect a different result than what he got. He'd come in more aggressively... and it's anybody's guess how Lopez would handle a more aggressive Loma from the get-go.
I think he has the ability to go into a 2nd fight with little need to (download) his foe's style as commentators pointed out. And boy those round8-11 was nice.
The one thing that can neutralize it, is Lopez' power. And he doesn't run out of gas like Taylor. IMO he made Loma not want to fight that 12th.
Reading your take makes me want to see a rematch all the more!
Can Loma turn the heat on early? Can he stay out of harm's way in the process?
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Originally Posted by SlimTraeI saw some shades of Hop-Taylor 1. Hop waited way too late, but when he turned on, he made it look somewhat easy, but it was too late. Whereas he turns on late as an age factor, with Loma it is his style.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Teo did get hit quite a bit from rounds 8-11. A bit too easily to suit me. I think mostly Loma's straight left, whether behind the right jab, or whether a lead, found its target amazingly accurately. I don't know how it would all play out in a rematch, now that each knows what the other brings to the table. Lopez is young, bright, and quick... so I'd be amazed if he didn't make the necessary adjustments to avoid those shots. From Loma's side, hopefully he learned the painful (but obvious) lesson that you just can't give away 7 rounds of a 12-round fight and expect a different result than what he got. He'd come in more aggressively... and it's anybody's guess how Lopez would handle a more aggressive Loma from the get-go.
I think he has the ability to go into a 2nd fight with little need to (download) his foe's style as commentators pointed out. And boy those round8-11 was nice.
The one thing that can neutralize it, is Lopez' power. And he doesn't run out of gas like Taylor. IMO he made Loma not want to fight that 12th.
Reading your take makes me want to see a rematch all the more!
Can Loma turn the heat on early? Can he stay out of harm's way in the process?
Totally agree. No way Loma makes the same stupid mistake in a rematch. If it was in fact Lopez who "prevented" Loma from being reasonably active through the first 6-7 rounds... Loma knows he would need to take considerable risk to put together a different fight in a rematch. This would force Lopez's hand. Would Lopez take Loma out? Would Loma "outduel" Lopez early? No one knows.