Why not just fight someone decent?

Let’s have some fun with this. Let’s not put a name on something that is happening. Let’s see if the same people will defend pathetic matchmaking without a name.

A certain fighter insists on fighting such weak opposition his network says he needs to take a pay cut from his guaranteed contract. And he’s about to agree to the pay cut

2 questions

1-if this is okay, why is it okay?
2-why not just fight someone decent?

If Crawford takes a pay cut to stay with Arum and therefore never facing Spence, then that would be a duck.

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If Crawford takes a pay cut to stay with Arum and therefore never facing Spence, then that would be a duck.

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Interesting to see that’s where your mind went. I believe Bob wants Crawford to take a pay cut but I don’t believe his network has asked him to. Perhaps people are unaware, Crawford was so insistent that Bob gets him the Spence fight he has a 1 million dollar bonus in his contract that will come due at the end of the year. If Bob doesn’t offer Spence before the year ends, 1 million dollars. And still, so typical of duck rank, no offer.

i hate weak opposition. why is danny wasting his time with gabriel? billy joe with martin? aj with kubrat? & so on & so on. this is nothing new

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i hate weak opposition. why is danny wasting his time with gabriel? billy joe with martin? aj with kubrat? & so on & so on. this is nothing new

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Some good questions. But none of these are taking on someone so bad their network is asking them to take a pay cut from their guaranteed contract. And worse this guy is so insistent on fighting weak opposition he is willing to take a pay cut on his guaranteed contract.

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i hate weak opposition. why is danny wasting his time with gabriel? billy joe with martin? aj with kubrat? & so on & so on. this is nothing new

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Some good questions. But none of these are taking on someone so bad their network is asking them to take a pay cut from their guaranteed contract. And worse this guy is so insistent on fighting weak opposition he is willing to take a pay cut on his guaranteed contract.

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i'm not sure what those guys are getting paid for those opponents but i'm sure they would make more against better opposition. i hate weak opposition. i can understand a easier fight in between or due to injury but look at a guy like demetrius

All this hate on Andrade :-\

I mean, it depends on the contract stipulations. I would definitely agree it’s a duck if the promoter or network is pushing for bigger fights but you are just denying them. Many times it is much more nuanced than that.

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I mean, it depends on the contract stipulations. I would definitely agree it’s a duck if the promoter or network is pushing for bigger fights but you are just denying them. Many times it is much more nuanced than that.

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Certainly it can be nuanced. But this guy I speak of has a long history of choosing weak fights. I’ll name him later. He’s got some very good fights as well. But it’s either big draw opponent or no hope opponent with him. Usually he brings a guy up from lower, a guy who never held a belt in the lower division. And trust me when I say the network is right to ask him to take a pay cut.

Andrade deserves flak too, probably more than this guy. But Andrade isn’t as respected so he isn’t held to as high a standard.

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I mean, it depends on the contract stipulations. I would definitely agree it’s a duck if the promoter or network is pushing for bigger fights but you are just denying them. Many times it is much more nuanced than that.

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Certainly it can be nuanced. But this guy I speak of has a long history of choosing weak fights. I’ll name him later. He’s got some very good fights as well. But it’s either big draw opponent or no hope opponent with him. Usually he brings a guy up from lower, a guy who never held a belt in the lower division. And trust me when I say the network is right to ask him to take a pay cut.

Andrade deserves flak too, probably more than this guy. But Andrade isn’t as respected so he isn’t held to as high a standard.

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Come on Ronnie Baby, stop keeping us in suspense!

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I mean, it depends on the contract stipulations. I would definitely agree it’s a duck if the promoter or network is pushing for bigger fights but you are just denying them. Many times it is much more nuanced than that.

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Certainly it can be nuanced. But this guy I speak of has a long history of choosing weak fights. I’ll name him later. He’s got some very good fights as well. But it’s either big draw opponent or no hope opponent with him. Usually he brings a guy up from lower, a guy who never held a belt in the lower division. And trust me when I say the network is right to ask him to take a pay cut.

Andrade deserves flak too, probably more than this guy. But Andrade isn’t as respected so he isn’t held to as high a standard.

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Well if what you say is true, then I agree that this fighter is probably ducking the hard fights

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I mean, it depends on the contract stipulations. I would definitely agree it’s a duck if the promoter or network is pushing for bigger fights but you are just denying them. Many times it is much more nuanced than that.

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Certainly it can be nuanced. But this guy I speak of has a long history of choosing weak fights. I’ll name him later. He’s got some very good fights as well. But it’s either big draw opponent or no hope opponent with him. Usually he brings a guy up from lower, a guy who never held a belt in the lower division. And trust me when I say the network is right to ask him to take a pay cut.

Andrade deserves flak too, probably more than this guy. But Andrade isn’t as respected so he isn’t held to as high a standard.

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Well if what you say is true, then I agree that this fighter is probably ducking the hard fights

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Yep.
сіз қайтадан Ронни баласын ойлап табасыз ба?

GGG agrees to take a pay cut from his guaranteed contract to fight Sczeremeta.(probably misspelled but who cares)

I know the argument “it’s his mandatory, it’s not his fault” but when Charlo was his mandatory for 18 months it was “what has Charlo done” from those that forgive GGGs weak opposition. Well, what has Szeramuchi done? And we know GGG doesn’t care about mandatories because “we will never fight Charlo”

Now, if anyone cares to debate anything I’ve said in this thread I will gladly provide articles stating every single thing I’ve said. Let’s have a laugh.

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GGG agrees to take a pay cut from his guaranteed contract to fight Sczeremeta.(probably misspelled but who cares)

I know the argument “it’s his mandatory, it’s not his fault” but when Charlo was his mandatory for 18 months it was “what has Charlo done” from those that forgive GGGs weak opposition. Well, what has Szeramuchi done? And we know GGG doesn’t care about mandatories because “we will never fight Charlo”

Now, if anyone cares to debate anything I’ve said in this thread I will gladly provide articles stating every single thing I’ve said. Let’s have a laugh.

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Ronnie Baby is loving it! He has played into your hands here, fair play.
I’m not gonna give you the pleasure of debating this, but I do ask myself if you ever lived in Kazakhstan when you were a kid and some fucker nicked your bike ?? :)

Primo, you recognize the game was necessary. We’ve seen for years and years these guys say one thing and do another. And it’s been defended and defended. That’s why I didn’t want a name on it until GGG did what we all knew GGG would do from years and years of the same thing. Without the name it couldn’t be defended on its merits. And to come back and defend it now after a name is put on it exposes what it is. So crickets haha

At least Szeremeta isn’t moving up off a loss and a retirement, so there’s that

I do agree that GGG disappointed me. He was the boogeyman for years, but he eventually became the one who avoided the best fights and waited around for Canelo.

canelo is showing everyone how it's done. john the gorilla deserved the fight but the public likes zeros & belts. weak opponents is nothing new

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Primo, you recognize the game was necessary. We’ve seen for years and years these guys say one thing and do another. And it’s been defended and defended. That’s why I didn’t want a name on it until GGG did what we all knew GGG would do from years and years of the same thing. Without the name it couldn’t be defended on its merits. And to come back and defend it now after a name is put on it exposes what it is. So crickets haha

At least Szeremeta isn’t moving up off a loss and a retirement, so there’s that

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I don’t think anyone will be defending him. And I don’t think he was always the Wanker you think he is.
But I have started to lose respect for him ever since he gmbled his whole career begging for the Canelo fights.
This is all clearly documented in the past by Me as is the belief that I don’t think he won either fight against Canelo.