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Seriously..... how safe will Biden be?
Say what you will about the hysterical leftists with their TDS and all that. Mention Madonna saying she'd like to blow up the White House (who the hell gave Madonna a microphone in the first place?) :rolleyes:
Talk about all the spittle-laced hate directed at Trump over the four years of his dictatorship er.... presidency.
But... when did anyone make an attempt against Trump? Thank God that didn't happen... 'cause that would've been the last straw. But the fact remains that it didn't happen.
Now... all of a sudden... it's a different type of crowd spewing their hate at Biden. You know... the type that is capable of storming the Capitol armed to the teeth.
How are the next four years going to go? (If we get that far). Is Biden going to be safe? Never mind about him being able to govern. He won't. The pro-Trump crowd will see to that.
But we're talking personal safety here.
Here's food for thought.
A deranged crowd is a deranged crowd... period.
Except that on the one hand, you've got the liberal, deranged crowd... crying and wailing about "not my President"... but doing little else.
(Note: Before anyone mentions the riots associated with BLM, motion denied. First, the vast majority of the protesters set out to peacefully protest the (still) endless police brutality on blacks specifically. Second, there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest. That much should be well known by now. Just as maybe some of the folks who went over to the Capitol didn't intend to break in, holding weapons... so the same standard should be applied to the BLM protesters. You can't do the double standard on this one.)
So on the other hand, you had the criers and the wailers moaning about "not my President."
But on the other hand... you've got the paramilitary, gun-toting, 2nd Amendment etched across their chest, anti-government folks..... some of whom, instead of crying and wailing, might be wanting to take their grievances up a few levels.
Washington is right in putting up MEGA security around the city on Inauguration Day. But that is only one day. There are four more years to follow. Who the hell knows what the violent ultra-right faction is cooking up already.
So to add to the horrific nature of what is right now probably the WORST JOB IN THE WORLD...... now Biden's gonna have to worry about some deranged nut taking a shot at him.
I think other nations of the world that have been referred to as "banana republics" in the past are at the very least smirking silently.
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Why would anyone harm Biden, I mean 80 bagillion people voted for him right?
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Before anyone mentions the riots associated with BLM, motion denied. First, the vast majority of the protesters set out to peacefully protest the (still) endless police brutality on blacks specifically. Second, there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest. That much should be well known by now. Just as maybe some of the folks who went over to the Capitol didn't intend to break in, holding weapons... so the same standard should be applied to the BLM protesters. You can't do the double standard on this one.
The vast majority of Trump supporters are peaceful. There's still endless CITIZEN violence on those Trump supporters. Also there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest ...just not if Trump supporters do it though, is that right? And what of Antifa? Do they get a pass as well?
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I have seen the pictures of the army sleeping in the buildings making sure Biden will be safe. I am sure he will be OK and on 20th there is a peaceful handover.
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I hope the idiots stay home during the inauguration and let it take place as it should.
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I hope the idiots stay home during the inauguration and let it take place as it should.
But those 80 million people voted for Biden and I want to see them in the streets all 80 million of them!
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If ANYTHING at all happens near Biden we'll all be hearing this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw8NSHgT1o8
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El Kabong
Why would anyone harm Biden, I mean 80 bagillion people voted for him right?
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Before anyone mentions the riots associated with BLM, motion denied. First, the vast majority of the protesters set out to peacefully protest the (still) endless police brutality on blacks specifically. Second, there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest. That much should be well known by now. Just as maybe some of the folks who went over to the Capitol didn't intend to break in, holding weapons... so the same standard should be applied to the BLM protesters. You can't do the double standard on this one.
The vast majority of Trump supporters are peaceful.
I didn't say otherwise. My only point is that those who are not... would be more likely to resort to violent means to express their displeasure at Trump not being President anymore.
There's still endless CITIZEN violence on those Trump supporters. Also
there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest ...just not if Trump supporters do it though, is that right?
Did I say that? Again... my point is that the extremists use the cover of well-intentioned, peaceful protests to carry out their sinister agendas. It happens everywhere. I never said that everyone who went to the Capitol was armed and bent on mayhem.
And what of Antifa? Do they get a pass as well?
There's a cute, funny cartoon making the rounds on Facebook. Too bad I couldn't cut/paste it here. It's a guy riding a bike with a Confederate flag. He falls for no particular reason and utters in pain... "Antifa."
Seriously... we gotta stop using the double negatives as arguments. There are a lot of violent, bullying Antifa people..... just like there are a lot of violent, bullying Proud Boys, White Nationalists, etc. You can always grab onto any branch while flailing about in the water... and it becomes an immediate lifesaver. Again... did I say anything about Antifa and "giving them a pass"??
All I know is we've got some serious problems with division and hate that are MUCH more magnified than they were in the past. For that I put the blame squarely on Donald Trump's shoulders. Nobel Peace Prize my ass.
I know you get my point on this thread. ;) There's a bunch of lunatics out there... and the ones who are routinely armed are potentially more dangerous than a bunch of wailing Nancys.
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TitoFan
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El Kabong
Why would anyone harm Biden, I mean 80 bagillion people voted for him right?
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Before anyone mentions the riots associated with BLM, motion denied. First, the vast majority of the protesters set out to peacefully protest the (still) endless police brutality on blacks specifically. Second, there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest. That much should be well known by now. Just as maybe some of the folks who went over to the Capitol didn't intend to break in, holding weapons... so the same standard should be applied to the BLM protesters. You can't do the double standard on this one.
The vast majority of Trump supporters are peaceful.
I didn't say otherwise. My only point is that those who are not... would be more likely to resort to violent means to express their displeasure at Trump not being President anymore.
There's still endless CITIZEN violence on those Trump supporters. Also
there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest ...just not if Trump supporters do it though, is that right?
Did I say that? Again... my point is that the extremists use the cover of well-intentioned, peaceful protests to carry out their sinister agendas. It happens everywhere. I never said that everyone who went to the Capitol was armed and bent on mayhem.
And what of Antifa? Do they get a pass as well?
There's a cute, funny cartoon making the rounds on Facebook. Too bad I couldn't cut/paste it here. It's a guy riding a bike with a Confederate flag. He falls for no particular reason and utters in pain... "Antifa."
Seriously... we gotta stop using the double negatives as arguments. There are a lot of violent, bullying Antifa people..... just like there are a lot of violent, bullying Proud Boys, White Nationalists, etc. You can always grab onto any branch while flailing about in the water... and it becomes an immediate lifesaver. Again... did I say anything about Antifa and "giving them a pass"??
All I know is we've got some serious problems with division and hate that are MUCH more magnified than they were in the past. For that I put the blame squarely on Donald Trump's shoulders. Nobel Peace Prize my ass.
I know you get my point on this thread. ;) There's a bunch of lunatics out there... and the ones who are routinely armed are potentially more dangerous than a bunch of wailing Nancys.
If Trump supporters were "more likely to resort to violent means to express their displeasure" then wouldn't we have witnessed more MAGA themed riots instead of BLM & Antifa riots? It's not like Trump supporters have had no reason to riot....Russiagate ALONE was enough to riot over and it lasted 3 years and what happened? NOTHING! No cities burned due to Trump supporters.
Your initial post just assumes that Trump supporters are more likely to be violent and you've doubled down on it....I'm saying "if they were going to be violent, they would have been a lot more violent by now" and you also don't mention the amount of violence coming from the left, in fact you dismiss it. A Bernie Sanders supporter nearly murdered Steve Scalise! Rioters freed by Kamala Harris' donations to bail them out of jail firebombed a police squad car. But nah, you're worried about JimBob & Bubba because they have guns which they MIGHT MAYBE POSSIBLY use.
Yeah, Antifa is real funny haha. "But the Proud Boys"....the Proud Boys wouldn't exist if not for Antifa's ALLOWED violence. Yes Antifa was ALLOWED to run roughshod over regular citizens and The Proud Boys were started to fight back against that. And that sort of thing will continue until Antifa is held accountable for their violent ways.
Blame Trump all you want but show me where he called for violence, show me directly, where's the "Storm the Capitol" quote coming from Trump's mouth? I can show you Democrats DIRECTLY calling for violence, in fact I have shown you that and it's been dismissed.
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when did anyone make an attempt against Trump? Thank God that didn't happen... 'cause that would've been the last straw. But the fact remains that it didn't happen.
Could have been when BLM & Antifa were rioting in DC and everyone was laughing about how Trump was "hiding in his basement" until they complained that "Trump teargassed peaceful protesters for a photo op at a Church"
I'm an average American citizen, I've been called a Nazi, I've been called racist, I've been called a white supremacist and it's a daily occurrence....think that wears on a person? I don't reckon the insults and attacks will stop or lessen. I've got people on the news saying basically I should no longer have a country, I shouldn't be allowed a voice at all, not public speaking, not Twitter, YouTube, any of the Big Tech sites....how do you think THAT ends for someone like me? Deplorable, irredeemable, xenophobe, bigot.....how does my future look? Can I look forward to deplatforming? Struggle sessions a la the Cultural Revolution in China? Blacklisting? And it's more than just me in this situation, I'm quite level headed so the probability that I do something is slim to none, but the probability that something happens to me, my business, my family? That's higher and it's something I've got to prepare for. I've already boarded up my office once.....and it wasn't for Trump supporters.
Trump supporters want their day in court about this election and that's going to happen one way or another. And they want to do it very peacefully.....will they be allowed is the question.
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Why would MAGA riot when Trump's holding all the cards? Doesn't make any sense, does it. Why would Trump supporters burn cities to the ground when their guy's in the White House calling all the shots. We can go back and forth on this all day long and unfortunately we're not going to get to a point of agreement.
You've dredged up instances of violence from the left which is commendable, considering how much it pales against the violence from the extreme right. Because if you're gonna mention obscure cases like Bernie Sanders..... then I'm sure as hell going to mention the dude that drove hundreds of miles, egged on by Trump's anti-Hispanic fiery rhetoric and fear mongering about the so-called invasion of the border..... and gunned down 20-some people at an El Paso Walmart. If we're going to go tit for tat... we'll be here all day. But while you strain to find examples to throw at me, you keep missing the big picture here, which is that Trump's supporters include the anti-government, 2nd Amendment chest-pounding, and in many ways bigoted people who take "America first" to an unhealthy extreme and use this chest-pounding to wake up their own twisted little prejudices and such.
Right. Antifa=bad and Proud Boys=good. 100 percent of the time. When the Proud Boys aren't fighting back against the violent Antifa anarchists... they're helping little old ladies across the street at busy intersections. Again... we're going nowhere fast with this argument.
I'm saddened that you've been called a Nazi, bigot, white supremacist, etc. I would never do that... and furthermore I don't believe for minute that you're any of those things. Do I vehemently argue back with you about what I think about Trump and many of his blinded followers (including the ones that DID break into the Capitol and caused bodily harm)? Absolutely!! But that's just you and me disagreeing over a whole bunch of stuff.
I read the rest of your paragraph and it saddens me even more. That you would have such a pessimistic view of the future now that Trump is no longer in the White House is totally depressing. I wish I could assure you nothing will change that will affect you, your family, or your business. But unfortunately the TOTAL CLIMATE has changed in the U.S.... and I'm not talking about global warming. I'm talking about the unprecedented HATRED that has been engrained into the American public by that waste of oxygen called Donald Trump. Continue defending him if you will. But as they say..... "the buck stops here" and he's never taken responsibility for ANYTHING he's fucked up or encouraged to get fucked up. American became a hatred filled country under HIS watch..... nobody else's. You can't blame Obama on this one. America voted in a totally unfit human being to lead the most powerful country in the world. You can't possibly be of the mentality of "damn the torpedoes full speed ahead!" The world around you matters. Trump tried to force America to dance to HIS tune. And as a human being he is... what can I say... I hate to use the word because it's been used against Trump supporters and I wouldn't do that. But I'd use it against Trump. It's the "D" word.
What POSSIBLE good will come out of trying to torpedo Biden's presidency before it even gets off the ground? Is THAT going to help YOU personally? Or your family? Or your business? I'd bet not.
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Why would MAGA riot when Trump's holding all the cards? Doesn't make any sense, does it. Why would Trump supporters burn cities to the ground when their guy's in the White House calling all the shots. We can go back and forth on this all day long and unfortunately we're not going to get to a point of agreement.
Which is why there were so many right wing violent protests when Obama was President....oh wait, no that was BLM too!
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You've dredged up instances of violence from the left which is commendable, considering how much it pales against the violence from the extreme right. Because if you're gonna mention obscure cases like Bernie Sanders..... then I'm sure as hell going to mention the dude that drove hundreds of miles, egged on by Trump's anti-Hispanic fiery rhetoric and fear mongering about the so-called invasion of the border..... and gunned down 20-some people at an El Paso Walmart. If we're going to go tit for tat... we'll be here all day. But while you strain to find examples to throw at me, you keep missing the big picture here, which is that Trump's supporters include the anti-government, 2nd Amendment chest-pounding, and in many ways bigoted people who take "America first" to an unhealthy extreme and use this chest-pounding to wake up their own twisted little prejudices and such.
Michael Reinoehl, Willem Van Spronsen, Conor Betts, Charles Landeros, and then there's the folks who died in the Chaz and the folks who died in the riots and who did those killings? :dontknow: but I can tell you who didn't. Heck the guy in El Paso said he was following the guy who shot up Christchurch New Zealand and said the ideas he had came well before Trump.
It may take a while to put Trump in proper perspective, but he's not the baddy he's been made out to be. If he's treated like he IS by the Democrats, Republicans, Media, Big Tech...then the next "populist" that has a groundswell of support is going to be more extreme, not less and that's "populist" as in the Left OR the Right. And THAT will be something to really be fearful of and worried about.
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Right. Antifa=bad and Proud Boys=good. 100 percent of the time. When the Proud Boys aren't fighting back against the violent Antifa anarchists... they're helping little old ladies across the street at busy intersections. Again... we're going nowhere fast with this argument.
If Antifa was held accountable for their actions there would be no need for the Proud Boys.
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I'm saddened that you've been called a Nazi, bigot, white supremacist, etc. I would never do that... and furthermore I don't believe for minute that you're any of those things. Do I vehemently argue back with you about what I think about Trump and many of his blinded followers (including the ones that DID break into the Capitol and caused bodily harm)? Absolutely!! But that's just you and me disagreeing over a whole bunch of stuff.
Yes and I appreciate our disagreements that we're able to have them minus the name calling, the harsh rhetoric, and ill feelings. I appreciate your taking the time to respond to me thoughtfully and respectfully.
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I read the rest of your paragraph and it saddens me even more. That you would have such a pessimistic view of the future now that Trump is no longer in the White House is totally depressing. I wish I could assure you nothing will change that will affect you, your family, or your business. But unfortunately the TOTAL CLIMATE has changed in the U.S.... and I'm not talking about global warming. I'm talking about the unprecedented HATRED that has been engrained into the American public by that waste of oxygen called Donald Trump. Continue defending him if you will. But as they say..... "the buck stops here" and he's never taken responsibility for ANYTHING he's fucked up or encouraged to get fucked up. American became a hatred filled country under HIS watch..... nobody else's. You can't blame Obama on this one. America voted in a totally unfit human being to lead the most powerful country in the world. You can't possibly be of the mentality of "damn the torpedoes full speed ahead!" The world around you matters. Trump tried to force America to dance to HIS tune. And as a human being he is... what can I say... I hate to use the word because it's been used against Trump supporters and I wouldn't do that. But I'd use it against Trump. It's the "D" word.
Trump being in office or out of office isn't the concern I have my man. The concern is the same as it ever was, it's Liberty (the side I'm on and you're on and most people like to believe they are on) vs Tyranny and I'm not saying you're on that side, but this is a CULTURAL issue, it's a CURRENT EVENTS issue, and it's going to be not so great for about half of the nation...and then it'll be not so great for half of that half and so on and so on until we're on the Chinese system. And maybe that seems a long winding trip down a crazy road, but I see what Big Tech did to Trump, I see what Big Tech did to Parler, I see China and their Social Credit system (aided & abetted by Big Tech) and that's our future brother. THAT and CRT critical race theory and Intersectionality...those will continue to chip away more and more at what America was founded on and has been aspiring to be. Trump was working towards ending those teachings...and now Biden and the Left re-embraces them.
If you don't know what I'm talking about just study up on the Cultural Revolution because THAT is what I'm talking about.
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What POSSIBLE good will come out of trying to torpedo Biden's presidency before it even gets off the ground? Is THAT going to help YOU personally? Or your family? Or your business? I'd bet not.
We have a system. The system works because people trust it. If people question it and come to no longer trust it what happens? The system fails. And then what? Chaos, violence, a struggle for power. Very serious consequences, DIRE consequences.
So we've got a large group of people and they don't trust the Election. What do you do? Not answer them? Tell them "sit down, shut up you lost"? Or do you provide evidence of a clean election? Provide more transparency, provide VOTER ID, provide reasons for those doubters to trust you. That's not being done, it's not even on the radar and therefore Biden's Presidency is already on very thin ice owing to no fault of mine, no benefit of mine or my family's.
What good came of torpedoing Trump's term? It hamstrung what he was able to accomplish....and Biden should expect no less. It isn't as if the Democrats have or will operate in good faith.
One of the managers of this impeachment Rep. Eric Swalwell slept with/was compromised by a Chinese spy.....does that fill you with confidence? It doesn't fill me with any.
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walrus
I hope the idiots stay home during the inauguration and let it take place as it should.
But those 80 million people voted for Biden and I want to see them in the streets all 80 million of them!
Somehow I think it may be the 74 you want to see.
Biden will have adequate protections. The big concern are the extremes merging, anarchy fitting like a glove to fit the agenda and grievances and dopes still thinking there are 'sides' to choose. You're either for the tear down going forward or you're not.
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Somehow I think it may be the 74 you want to see.
Biden will have adequate protections. The big concern are the extremes merging, anarchy fitting like a glove to fit the agenda and grievances and dopes still thinking there are 'sides' to choose. You're either for the tear down going forward or you're not.
Oh those "74" aren't even people, they're "lesser" CNN's Don Lemon said "If you vote Trump you support the KKK"....so there's 74 Million people of differing backgrounds, races, etc and they all support the KKK according to Don Lemon, and don't dismiss my bringing that up like 'oh, that's just Don Lemon, what does he know'. You guys have had very choice words for Trump so obviously you have some choice thoughts for his supporters as well. And it's more important to be dismissive of what Trump supporters wanted, what they stood for and so on than to understand them so I await the grandeur of the UNITY Joe Biden will bring.
"You're either for the tear down going forward or you're not"
You don't know how absolutely right you are in that regard my friend.
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Which is why there were so many right wing violent protests when Obama was President....oh wait, no that was BLM too!
Yes Kabong! And you're furthering my point! BLM doesn't care who's President. They've got a grievance... and very GOOD, LEGIT grievance... and they've protested since before Trump. But mostly during Trump's tenure have these protests "suddenly" have become violent, with BLM'ers I guess becoming Hulk's from Bruce Banners and deciding to burn down buildings just because. Why would the right wing protest under Obama? Were an outlandish number of young white guys being murdered by black cops?
Michael Reinoehl, Willem Van Spronsen, Conor Betts, Charles Landeros, and then there's the folks who died in the Chaz and the folks who died in the riots and who did those killings? :dontknow: but I can tell you who didn't. Heck the guy in El Paso said he was following the guy who shot up Christchurch New Zealand and said the ideas he had came well before Trump.
It may take a while to put Trump in proper perspective, but he's not the baddy he's been made out to be. If he's treated like he IS by the Democrats, Republicans, Media, Big Tech...then the next "populist" that has a groundswell of support is going to be more extreme, not less and that's "populist" as in the Left OR the Right. And THAT will be something to really be fearful of and worried about.
Don't do that, Kabong. Please don't do that. Do not attempt to deflect the blame from Trump's incendiary rhetoric toward Latinos moving toward the Southern border, which resulted in untold amounts of hatred from already mentally sick people, such as the guy from the El Paso shootings. Do you believe what he says at face value? I don't. If a Trump fan, which I'm sure he is, he's going to protect his hero from being associated with his act. Let's be real here. It's just amazing there weren't MORE El Paso's during that time. Plus, the effects of that are long-lasting. It probably woke up the semi-dormant racism in thousands of people. And we continue to disagree on Trump's character. You say he's not the baddie he's made out to be. I feel he's even worse than that. Kabong... you know as well as I do... you can't separate character from leadership in any position, particularly that of POTUS. Trump's character was unfit (IMO) to be President BEFORE he was elected. The fact he was in fact elected doesn't mean that some of us didn't see it coming. You see the next "populist" as extreme. The same thought as Kirkland on another post. I don't necessarily see it that way. I'd rather be optimistic and say people learn from experiences. Many of those who voted for Trump in 2016 were DEEPLY disappointed in what they actually got. It's not so far-fetched to say that, is it? People make mistakes, miscalculations. Maybe next time people choose someone who will stand up to big business, they'll be more careful in the type of person they choose.
If Antifa was held accountable for their actions there would be no need for the Proud Boys.
Forget Proud Boys for a second. I have a bigger problem with White Supremacists, Neo Nazis, etc. They exist because they always have. I don't condemn the Proud Boys anymore than I condemn Antifa. Action... reaction. Everyone's always going to point the finger at the other side. But the other organizations... those have no reason to be allowed to exist.
Yes and I appreciate our disagreements that we're able to have them minus the name calling, the harsh rhetoric, and ill feelings. I appreciate your taking the time to respond to me thoughtfully and respectfully.
As I've always said... we disagree vehemently at times... but we maintain the civility and respect that should always be a part of this forum. That being said, I respect a man who has a firm opinion, even one directly opposed to my own. What I find hard to fathom or accept is a grown man with opinions that shift with the wind. Changes of opinion are normal and in fact desirable in many instances. But constant going back and forth is a sign of mental weakness. 'Nough said.
Trump being in office or out of office isn't the concern I have my man. The concern is the same as it ever was, it's Liberty (the side I'm on and you're on and most people like to believe they are on) vs Tyranny and I'm not saying you're on that side, but this is a CULTURAL issue, it's a CURRENT EVENTS issue, and it's going to be not so great for about half of the nation...and then it'll be not so great for half of that half and so on and so on until we're on the Chinese system. And maybe that seems a long winding trip down a crazy road, but I see what Big Tech did to Trump, I see what Big Tech did to Parler, I see China and their Social Credit system (aided & abetted by Big Tech) and that's our future brother. THAT and CRT critical race theory and Intersectionality...those will continue to chip away more and more at what America was founded on and has been aspiring to be. Trump was working towards ending those teachings...and now Biden and the Left re-embraces them.
If you don't know what I'm talking about just study up on the Cultural Revolution because THAT is what I'm talking about.
I've been arguing this point with some relatives of mine who live in the States and who also happen to be Trump fans ;D . The movements you describe are real, and worthy of worry. I'm not discounting that. This movement toward control and surveillance is something that merits thought and preemptive actions. However, and once again we'll disagree... Trump was not the man for the job, if that's what you're looking for. More than ever, this country needs a LEADER. A leader who checks all the boxes of a leader. I've worked in industry for a long time... and I've been exposed to TRUE leaders, as well as "leaders" who only have the title but rule by fear, not respect nor example. Trump has NEVER been a leader. He didn't make himself from the ground up. He inherited his riches. His report card before being POTUS isn't exactly a glittering example of what a successful leader should be. His personality in incredibly deficient, to the point where even some of his own family members have felt compelled to spill their guts. Why go over this all over again? I've said it enough times. Trump led by fear... and if you didn't cow down to his every ridiculous whim... he'd boot you out the door. Leaders surround themselves with competent people, not kiss-asses.
We have a system. The system works because people trust it. If people question it and come to no longer trust it what happens? The system fails. And then what? Chaos, violence, a struggle for power. Very serious consequences, DIRE consequences.
So we've got a large group of people and they don't trust the Election. What do you do? Not answer them? Tell them "sit down, shut up you lost"? Or do you provide evidence of a clean election? Provide more transparency, provide VOTER ID, provide reasons for those doubters to trust you. That's not being done, it's not even on the radar and therefore Biden's Presidency is already on very thin ice owing to no fault of mine, no benefit of mine or my family's.
What good came of torpedoing Trump's term? It hamstrung what he was able to accomplish....and Biden should expect no less. It isn't as if the Democrats have or will operate in good faith.
One of the managers of this impeachment Rep. Eric Swalwell slept with/was compromised by a Chinese spy.....does that fill you with confidence? It doesn't fill me with any.
I can argue that the onus was on Trump and his cohorts to PROVE that the election was fraudulent. That's the way it works in the justice system, right? Innocent until proven guilty. Hey... I wouldn't have minded a little more effort on the part of the other side toward appeasing the hearsays and the rumors. But I'm not gonna latch on to something that is quickly becoming a distant cry in the night. Trump's closest allies are dropping like flies, many of them quietly telling him to concede. Why keep dragging out the inevitable?
Damn... I had to get rid of the original quotes (10,000 character limit). Hope it all makes sense. ;D
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Somehow I think it may be the 74 you want to see.
Biden will have adequate protections. The big concern are the extremes merging, anarchy fitting like a glove to fit the agenda and grievances and dopes still thinking there are 'sides' to choose. You're either for the tear down going forward or you're not.
Oh those "74" aren't even people, they're "lesser" CNN's Don Lemon said "If you vote Trump you support the KKK"....so there's 74 Million people of differing backgrounds, races, etc and they all support the KKK according to Don Lemon, and don't dismiss my bringing that up like 'oh, that's just Don Lemon, what does he know'. You guys have had very choice words for Trump so obviously you have some choice thoughts for his supporters as well. And it's more important to be dismissive of what Trump supporters wanted, what they stood for and so on than to understand them so I await the grandeur of the
UNITY Joe Biden will bring.
"You're either for the tear down going forward or you're not"
You don't know how absolutely right you are in that regard my friend.
You lead with Don Lemon but yet I cannot dismiss him? It's been well established that ol Don is a dolt. 'You guys' thoughts are much more choice on Trump than the words, that right there is a bit dismissive if anything no. What Trump supporters 'stand for' is on the individual, I mean after all their not a gang ffs. Aside from the name branded Flags as colors I guess. But I know they are not all unamerican kooks. Vast majority of people I deal with daily supported Trump. The support base started to fracture long ago and it'll continue, that new Q batshit Barbie chick or Hawley in Congress will look to recycle and channel it.
Good luck going forward with your tear down of the established American democracy then I guess???.
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This is the kind of shat you'll see going forward. More so then armed assaults I believe. Some belligerent Camo-Karens and mental midget screw heads trying to bow up barking about 'patriot'. Don't know this fella but he walked to each one and stood ground. The majority and sensible will grow tired of it quick.
https://youtu.be/7rDIE2xpuAE
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Yes Kabong! And you're furthering my point! BLM doesn't care who's President. They've got a grievance... and very GOOD, LEGIT grievance... and they've protested since before Trump. But mostly during Trump's tenure have these protests "suddenly" have become violent, with BLM'ers I guess becoming Hulk's from Bruce Banners and deciding to burn down buildings just because. Why would the right wing protest under Obama? Were an outlandish number of young white guys being murdered by black cops?
Oh, my grievance isn't valid, ok then. I guess I'll take my seat. My bad. :-X
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Yes Kabong! And you're furthering my point! BLM doesn't care who's President. They've got a grievance... and very GOOD, LEGIT grievance... and they've protested since before Trump. But mostly during Trump's tenure have these protests "suddenly" have become violent, with BLM'ers I guess becoming Hulk's from Bruce Banners and deciding to burn down buildings just because. Why would the right wing protest under Obama? Were an outlandish number of young white guys being murdered by black cops?
Oh, my grievance isn't valid, ok then. I guess I'll take my seat. My bad. :-X
I'm afraid you lost me. :-\
You want to compare the Capitol riots with the BLM protests. I've given you all the explanations behind my beliefs. Why have you gone off on this strange tack?
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Yes Kabong! And you're furthering my point! BLM doesn't care who's President. They've got a grievance... and very GOOD, LEGIT grievance... and they've protested since before Trump. But mostly during Trump's tenure have these protests "suddenly" have become violent, with BLM'ers I guess becoming Hulk's from Bruce Banners and deciding to burn down buildings just because. Why would the right wing protest under Obama? Were an outlandish number of young white guys being murdered by black cops?
Oh, my grievance isn't valid, ok then. I guess I'll take my seat. My bad. :-X
I'm afraid you lost me. :-\
You want to compare the Capitol riots with the BLM protests. I've given you all the explanations behind my beliefs. Why have you gone off on this strange tack?
You've said BLM grievances GOOD, LEGIT and then you've just dismissed the concerns of about 75 million people.
I'd go down the old road of "Let me tell you about BLM" but I'm not going to, it's a waste of time. And since the election was SO clean, SO free and fair that I'm not allowed to look at it let alone question it. There's precious little to discuss now.....other than concern trolling about the safety of President Elect Mr. Magoo.
So yeah, I'll tap out on this one.
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El Kabong
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TitoFan
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El Kabong
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Yes Kabong! And you're furthering my point! BLM doesn't care who's President. They've got a grievance... and very GOOD, LEGIT grievance... and they've protested since before Trump. But mostly during Trump's tenure have these protests "suddenly" have become violent, with BLM'ers I guess becoming Hulk's from Bruce Banners and deciding to burn down buildings just because. Why would the right wing protest under Obama? Were an outlandish number of young white guys being murdered by black cops?
Oh, my grievance isn't valid, ok then. I guess I'll take my seat. My bad. :-X
I'm afraid you lost me. :-\
You want to compare the Capitol riots with the BLM protests. I've given you all the explanations behind my beliefs. Why have you gone off on this strange tack?
You've said BLM grievances GOOD, LEGIT and then you've just dismissed the concerns of about 75 million people.
I'd go down the old road of "Let me tell you about BLM" but I'm not going to, it's a waste of time. And since the election was SO clean, SO free and fair that I'm not allowed to look at it let alone question it. There's precious little to discuss now.....other than concern trolling about the safety of President Elect Mr. Magoo.
So yeah, I'll tap out on this one.
"Dismissed........ the concerns........ of about......... 75 million people." Wow. You got all that from my defending BLM's cause to you, huh?
Yeah ok... we'll just leave it at that.
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Why would anyone harm Biden, I mean 80 bagillion people voted for him right?
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Before anyone mentions the riots associated with BLM, motion denied. First, the vast majority of the protesters set out to peacefully protest the (still) endless police brutality on blacks specifically. Second, there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest. That much should be well known by now. Just as maybe some of the folks who went over to the Capitol didn't intend to break in, holding weapons... so the same standard should be applied to the BLM protesters. You can't do the double standard on this one.
The vast majority of Trump supporters are peaceful. There's still endless CITIZEN violence on those Trump supporters. Also
there will be rioters and looters welcoming the cover of ANY protest ...just not if Trump supporters do it though, is that right? And what of Antifa? Do they get a pass as well?
I completely disagree that Biden is going to be looking over his shoulder for some nut job trying to kill him
it's people like Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz who are going to be looking over their shoulders now that they are being put on no fly lists and being blamed for attempting to overthrow democracy, by simply exercising their constitutional right in the chamber to raise objections to the slates of electors
Besides Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz having to look over their shoulder for the rest of their life what about what happened to those two delegates in Michigan who voted not to certify? They were threatened and there family members were threatened and their houses were surrounded with chanting mobs
But yeah nah yeah, it's Beijing Joe who's going to be looking over his shoulder
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"Dismissed........ the concerns........ of about......... 75 million people." Wow. You got all that from my defending BLM's cause to you, huh?
Yeah ok... we'll just leave it at that.
You said Black Lives Matters grievances were GOOD and LEGIT. You said nothing of the Trump supporters and so I'm lead to believe A) You don't think their worries/concerns are "good" or "legit" OR B ) You simply don't care what they think.
As for Black Lives Matter, the organization (not the mere idea of Black Lives Mattering, which they do, and I agree with), the organization is a two headed snake for the Democrats it's first and foremost a slush fund for the DNC....how much money did BLM raise and where did that money go? It went from ActBlue directly to JOE BIDEN's campaign. Secondly it's an agitation group run by (and I'll quote BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors here) "We are trained Marxists", but perhaps that means little to you, it means a great deal to me. Furthermore in an interview with DemocracyNow! she said:
PATRISSE KHAN-CULLORS: Well, I’m a trained organizer. And so, I think sometimes people think that because Black Lives Matter is the biggest thing, that that’s the first thing I ever did. And it’s not. I was trained knocking on doors, you know, getting on buses and passing out flyers and getting people to join organizations. The Labor Community Strategy Center is my first political home. It’s where I would be a part of what it’s famous for, which is the Bus Riders Union.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Started by an old friend of mine, Eric Mann.
PATRISSE KHAN-CULLORS: Yes, Eric Mann. That’s my mentor.
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/1/...ou_a_terrorist
Who is Eric Mann?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Mann
Mann and 24 other Weathermen were charged with conspiracy to commit murder after two bullets were fired through a window of the police headquarters on November 8, 1969. Mann surrendered to the police on four counts stemming from the November 8 incident: conspiracy to commit murder, assault with intent to commit murder, promotion of anarchy, and threatening.
Oh.....well he seems like a kind and decent person to have as a mentor. Not like the Weather Underground ever did anything with ill intent.
Marxists can't crack the United States on "class warfare" alone because in America you can move up and down the ladder as it were, you're not stopped at working class or middle class or upper middle class just because the government says "No" or a bank says "no" (though that seems to be changing as banks aren't allowing people with certain political views to use their services anymore). So they had to go the death by a thousand cuts route and use Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality in order to break and cripple this nation and it seems to me that THOSE people are winning and that's not a good thing for anyone.
But hey what do I know, I'm merely a straight white Christian man so I am so far down the "progressive stack" totem pole that nobody need pay attention to me nor heed my concerns for this or that. And I don't say all this to insult you, I don't say it to hurt your feelings, I don't say it out of anger or disgust or malice, I say it because I'm afraid not many people know or care about it when they should because the slippery slope of Marxism isn't a pretty one. Those literal COMMUNISTS cry out "Nazi! Nazi! Nazi!" at normal average Americans who have been taught full well the horrors of Nazi Germany, it's a real and visceral reaction one has to the word and for good reason. Meanwhile the term "Communist" carries no such weight, but I'd urge anyone and everyone to learn up on who they were and what they have done in the past and continue to do. The Gulag Archipelago is a good place to start, The Cultural Revolution (similar to what we're experiencing right here right now) is a good place to start.
The 4 olds have to be destroyed in order for the Communists to have their day: Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Customs.
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When Black Lives Matter protesters march down a street holding signs... as ALL protesters have a right to do in these United States... I don't sit there dwelling on what their obscure, maybe underhanded founders may be or not be doing. I'm focusing on why these decent citizens are out there marching in the first place. Usually it's following a murder of a black person caught on video (thank God for phone cameras), without any filtering, without any sneaky coverup cop-to-cop, without any news bias wanting to blame the black guy all the time. They are marching out of well-founded fears that any of them or their families could be racially profiled and therefore subjected to police abuse without warning or any provocation. How many of those worries do YOU entertain every day? I thought so. So we'll continue focusing on different aspects of BLM, where you prefer to go upstairs and dismiss the whole movement because of some rotten apples...... and I'll continue focusing on the people and issues themselves. Thank God not everyone thinks like you on this topic (no disrespect intended).... because honestly all of jack shit would be done about the very real racial issues in this country.
When you attempt to force me to equate BLM protests with Trump supporters storming the Capitol, you're wanting me to accept your premise that they're totally similar in nature. They're not. Presidential election. One candidate won... the other one lost. If that's enough to make people invade the Capitol, that's on them (and the (cough) "leader" who sat there and did absolutely ZILCH before making a half-hearted, forced message a week later). Outraged Trump fans storming the Capitol. None of them fearful of being racially profiled in the street and abused by police. All of them stoked to rage by nonstop, 24/7 incendiary propaganda about Massive Voter Fraud, where I repeat the onus is on the accusers to prove their points... not on the system to prove its innocence.
Apples and oranges.
Your fear of being taken over by Socialists/Communists, etc. is one I've heard from Trump supporters within my relatives ranks, particularly young ones that live in the States. I'm not trying to downplay any of your fears. All I'm saying is that these fears are nothing new, as in "all of a sudden." Yet they seem to have grown at a feverish pace during Trump's reign. Why is that? I'd venture to say it has to do with Trump himself. Slowly... continuously... like the proverbial drop of water on the stone... Trump has engrained this fear in most of his fan base. All of a sudden Trump is the only "savior" that can possibly stop this rising tide of Communism/Marxism, whatever. The rhetoric would have people believe that there's this "cabal-like" machinery with Biden as its head (or puppet) that is just waiting for the election din to die down before the gears start moving again.
Ok... and what of the American people. What of the checks and balances built into the American governmental system. What of the more sensible people among the Trump haters who just wanted Trump the HELL out of there, but want no part of this gloom and doom future you're painting. Why is Trump painted as the Superman that will save American from this global evil? He's nothing but a 70-some year old punk. A bully... a dumb one at that. Incapable of even verbally communicating at the levels we're become accustomed to hear other Presidents speak. A psychologist would have a fucking field day with Trump. He's got so many personality issues it's not even funny.
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To the mentally weak, the term apples and oranges is applied randomly without any rhyme or reason. Like a hypocrite would do. Actually I shouldn't say LIKE a hypocrite. It is actually the poster child of hypocrisy, unless the mental weakness really is the cause, then that person can be excused from willful hypocrisy.
Apples and oranges is voting for Joe Jorgensen and supporting the constitutional right, THE HUMAN RIGHT, to pursue legal action to preserve election integrity. That's apples and oranges.
but in retrospect we could be dealing with some pineapples here instead LOL.
HELL, I could see if a person voted for candidate A, then turned on the candidate due to certain geopolitical policies he or she practiced/extreme disagreement about Mask wearing, and then turned around and voted AGAIN for candidate A. {And even then they certainly would have the right to do it, because in their mind it just could have been the choice of the lesser of two evils.}
But fucking hell, Joe Jorgensen was my Lamborghini Countache (heh heh, literally in 1987), but since I couldn't get her in 2020, I was left with the classic Cadillac (Trump) and the Ford focus (Beijing Joe).... And you damn well better believe I support the classic Cadillac, 8 days a week as opposed to a Fraudster Ford focus (FFF) 😀😀😀😆
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@El Kabong president Donald j Trump had 89 million followers on Twitter before he was deleted.
I don't think any of those people will be voting Republican next time around and certainly not voting Democrat!!!
89 million people IS ONE PETTY BIG PARTY!!!
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TitoFan
When Black Lives Matter protesters march down a street holding signs... as ALL protesters have a right to do in these United States... I don't sit there dwelling on what their obscure, maybe underhanded founders may be or not be doing. I'm focusing on why these decent citizens are out there marching in the first place. Usually it's following a murder of a black person caught on video (thank God for phone cameras), without any filtering, without any sneaky coverup cop-to-cop, without any news bias wanting to blame the black guy all the time. They are marching out of well-founded fears that any of them or their families could be racially profiled and therefore subjected to police abuse without warning or any provocation. How many of those worries do YOU entertain every day? I thought so. So we'll continue focusing on different aspects of BLM, where you prefer to go upstairs and dismiss the whole movement because of some rotten apples...... and I'll continue focusing on the people and issues themselves. Thank God not everyone thinks like you on this topic (no disrespect intended).... because honestly all of jack shit would be done about the very real racial issues in this country.
That's all well and good, but it's not their peaceful protests which are the issue it's the very real, very violent RIOTS which seem to follow their protests which we're comparing to the Capitol Building breach. And we don't have the right to riot, that's not a thing and should continue being not a thing.
How many people a year are "murdered by police"? How many are black? How many are black and shot by white officers? I was the very first on here to call what happened to Walter Scott murder. But I take a close look at circumstances in the build up to these shootings and some of them are justified. For example, Breona Taylor is a name we hear bandied about quite often, we've heard various falsehoods about that case: 1. it was the wrong address (false) 2. the police didn't knock (they did) 3. Breona was asleep and they shot her (false) etc etc....and it happens all the time. Cops aren't out there "hunting" people, are there bad cops, surely as there are bad pharmacists and bad lawyers and bad doctors, but how many people are out there in the world with malice in their hearts lying in wait to murder, harm, destroy? 100% of them? 80% of them? 10% of them? 2% of them? There are just about 700,000 law enforcement officers in America....700,000 covering 328.2 MILLION people.
It's not an easy job, I bet it's not a fun job, it's not exactly well paying (but for the pension), and it's not a perfect system they work in. BLM wants to not just "defund the police" they wish to ABOLISH the police. And if you're not curious about how Communists or other actors with very bad intentions get their foot in the door here's the way.
And yes being a person who keeps up on current events and has a relatively new/young family, there's plenty I worry about and I'm sure you related to that. I don't fear cops so much because I don't have much interaction with them, thankfully. However when I do interact with the police I know what not to do. I worry more about mob violence than I do police. Police have rules, mobs don't.
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When you attempt to force me to equate BLM protests with Trump supporters storming the Capitol, you're wanting me to accept your premise that they're totally similar in nature. They're not. Presidential election. One candidate won... the other one lost. If that's enough to make people invade the Capitol, that's on them (and the (cough) "leader" who sat there and did absolutely ZILCH before making a half-hearted, forced message a week later). Outraged Trump fans storming the Capitol. None of them fearful of being racially profiled in the street and abused by police. All of them stoked to rage by nonstop, 24/7 incendiary propaganda about Massive Voter Fraud, where I repeat the onus is on the accusers to prove their points... not on the system to prove its innocence.
I'm not equating PROTESTS with the Capitol Building being breached, I'm equating RIOTS with it. And there were indeed riots, we had a full summer of them.
"None of them fearful of being racially profiled" .....so no Blacks or Hispanics were there? Or can people tell which Blacks & Hispanics support Trump?
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Apples and oranges.
Protests & riots, yes we agree.
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TitoFan
Your fear of being taken over by Socialists/Communists, etc. is one I've heard from Trump supporters within my relatives ranks, particularly young ones that live in the States. I'm not trying to downplay any of your fears. All I'm saying is that these fears are nothing new, as in "all of a sudden." Yet they seem to have grown at a feverish pace during Trump's reign. Why is that? I'd venture to say it has to do with Trump himself. Slowly... continuously... like the proverbial drop of water on the stone... Trump has engrained this fear in most of his fan base. All of a sudden Trump is the only "savior" that can possibly stop this rising tide of Communism/Marxism, whatever. The rhetoric would have people believe that there's this "cabal-like" machinery with Biden as its head (or puppet) that is just waiting for the election din to die down before the gears start moving again.
Trump isn't "the savior" Trump is someone who stood his ground for people who have been represented for far too long by weak willed spineless sellouts. Trump showed if a politician, even one with the deck stacked against him, truly wanted to accomplish something he could get it done.
That revelation inspired people, it made people happy, but it also pissed people off because they woke up to how certain politicians use the system. They promise things every 4 years, they do nothing the follow 3, then it's back to "We super swear this time for real!" and it happens on both sides of the aisle.
A high ranking Democrat had a Chinese spy as her driver for 30 years, a high ranking Democrat had an affair with a Chinese spy, a high ranking Democrat had a Pakistani IT worker violate House security policies, Donald Trump's administration was ILLEGALLY surveilled, high ranking Republicans commit insider trading violations.....and nothing ever happens, nobody is held accountable.
It pisses people off and rightfully so!
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Ok... and what of the American people. What of the checks and balances built into the American governmental system. What of the more sensible people among the Trump haters who just wanted Trump the HELL out of there, but want no part of this gloom and doom future you're painting. Why is Trump painted as the Superman that will save American from this global evil? He's nothing but a 70-some year old punk. A bully... a dumb one at that. Incapable of even verbally communicating at the levels we're become accustomed to hear other Presidents speak. A psychologist would have a fucking field day with Trump. He's got so many personality issues it's not even funny.
The checks & balances are only as good as the people holding office are. I'd bet there's a Republican or two you don't trust. Well many people don't trust the entire lot of them because of how many people have not been held accountable for various crimes Hell Bill Clinton committed perjury in his Impeachment hearings and his punishment? Was it prison? Was it being removed from office? Was it a fine? No....he stayed in office and may have lost his law license or some shit....Let Trump lie to Congress and see what happens.
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NoSavingByTheBell
To the mentally weak, the term apples and oranges is applied randomly without any rhyme or reason. Like a hypocrite would do. Actually I shouldn't say LIKE a hypocrite. It is actually the poster child of hypocrisy, unless the mental weakness really is the cause, then that person can be excused from willful hypocrisy.
Apples and oranges is voting for Joe Jorgensen and supporting the constitutional right, THE HUMAN RIGHT, to pursue legal action to preserve election integrity. That's apples and oranges.
but in retrospect we could be dealing with some pineapples here instead LOL.
HELL, I could see if a person voted for candidate A, then turned on the candidate due to certain geopolitical policies he or she practiced/extreme disagreement about Mask wearing, and then turned around and voted AGAIN for candidate A. {And even then they certainly would have the right to do it, because in their mind it just could have been the choice of the lesser of two evils.}
But fucking hell, Joe Jorgensen was my Lamborghini Countache (heh heh, literally in 1987), but since I couldn't get her in 2020, I was left with the classic Cadillac (Trump) and the Ford focus (Beijing Joe).... And you damn well better believe I support the classic Cadillac, 8 days a week as opposed to a Fraudster Ford focus (FFF) 😀😀😀😆
I'm pretty sure you had to use a spellchecker to write the words "mentally weak." ;)
Listen... I got no issues going tit for tat with a 50-some year old flip-flopper who one minute is cheering Trump on to "mow down toothless peasants at the border".... the next minute is hypocritically berating Trump for his handling of the COVID crisis.... and finally "flops" back to his derangement over the Massive Voter Fraud fiasco.
Although... I've you're going to engage me in a battle of wits... you'd better go get some at the local shop... 'cause for being grandfather aged, you're pretty damned moronic.
So I got no problem going head to head with you although I could be accused of abuse of the psychologically-challenged.
But get this straight, my pudgy, flip-flopping friend.......
Don't go putting your hand in the shark cage and go "running to tell on me" when you've gotten your hand bitten.
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NoSavingByTheBell
To the mentally weak, the term apples and oranges is applied randomly without any rhyme or reason. Like a hypocrite would do. Actually I shouldn't say LIKE a hypocrite. It is actually the poster child of hypocrisy, unless the mental weakness really is the cause, then that person can be excused from willful hypocrisy.
Apples and oranges is voting for Joe Jorgensen and supporting the constitutional right, THE HUMAN RIGHT, to pursue legal action to preserve election integrity. That's apples and oranges.
but in retrospect we could be dealing with some pineapples here instead LOL.
HELL, I could see if a person voted for candidate A, then turned on the candidate due to certain geopolitical policies he or she practiced/extreme disagreement about Mask wearing, and then turned around and voted AGAIN for candidate A. {And even then they certainly would have the right to do it, because in their mind it just could have been the choice of the lesser of two evils.}
But fucking hell, Joe Jorgensen was my Lamborghini Countache (heh heh, literally in 1987), but since I couldn't get her in 2020, I was left with the classic Cadillac (Trump) and the Ford focus (Beijing Joe).... And you damn well better believe I support the classic Cadillac, 8 days a week as opposed to a Fraudster Ford focus (FFF) 😀😀😀😆
I'm pretty sure you had to use a spellchecker to write the words "mentally weak." ;)
Listen... I got no issues going tit for tat with a 50-some year old flip-flopper who one minute is cheering Trump on to "mow down toothless peasants at the border".... the next minute is hypocritically berating Trump for his handling of the COVID crisis.... and finally "flops" back to his derangement over the
Massive Voter Fraud fiasco.
Although... I've you're going to engage me in a battle of wits... you'd better go get some at the local shop... 'cause for being grandfather aged, you're pretty damned moronic.
So I got no problem going head to head with you although I could be accused of abuse of the psychologically-challenged.
But get this straight, my pudgy, flip-flopping friend.......
Don't go putting your hand in the shark cage and go "running to tell on me" when you've gotten your hand bitten.
You wouldn't last 30 seconds with me physically mentally or spiritually
Take your pic
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NoSavingByTheBell
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
To the mentally weak, the term apples and oranges is applied randomly without any rhyme or reason. Like a hypocrite would do. Actually I shouldn't say LIKE a hypocrite. It is actually the poster child of hypocrisy, unless the mental weakness really is the cause, then that person can be excused from willful hypocrisy.
Apples and oranges is voting for Joe Jorgensen and supporting the constitutional right, THE HUMAN RIGHT, to pursue legal action to preserve election integrity. That's apples and oranges.
but in retrospect we could be dealing with some pineapples here instead LOL.
HELL, I could see if a person voted for candidate A, then turned on the candidate due to certain geopolitical policies he or she practiced/extreme disagreement about Mask wearing, and then turned around and voted AGAIN for candidate A. {And even then they certainly would have the right to do it, because in their mind it just could have been the choice of the lesser of two evils.}
But fucking hell, Joe Jorgensen was my Lamborghini Countache (heh heh, literally in 1987), but since I couldn't get her in 2020, I was left with the classic Cadillac (Trump) and the Ford focus (Beijing Joe).... And you damn well better believe I support the classic Cadillac, 8 days a week as opposed to a Fraudster Ford focus (FFF) 😀😀😀😆
I'm pretty sure you had to use a spellchecker to write the words "mentally weak." ;)
Listen... I got no issues going tit for tat with a 50-some year old flip-flopper who one minute is cheering Trump on to "mow down toothless peasants at the border".... the next minute is hypocritically berating Trump for his handling of the COVID crisis.... and finally "flops" back to his derangement over the
Massive Voter Fraud fiasco.
Although... I've you're going to engage me in a battle of wits... you'd better go get some at the local shop... 'cause for being grandfather aged, you're pretty damned moronic.
So I got no problem going head to head with you although I could be accused of abuse of the psychologically-challenged.
But get this straight, my pudgy, flip-flopping friend.......
Don't go putting your hand in the shark cage and go "running to tell on me" when you've gotten your hand bitten.
You wouldn't last 30 seconds with me physically mentally or spiritually
Take your pic
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have too much trouble with the Forum Flip-Flopping Fat Fuck.
(Now... I know you're a poetry buff... but I'm thinking you just gotta appreciate the brilliant alliteration here.) ;D :D
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Biden is going to start a war in the Ukraine and Russia will be "involved" in some way, or fashion. By his second year or maybe even by the end of 2021 we will see this play out.
:rolleyes:
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Biden is going to start a war in the Ukraine and Russia will be "involved" in some way, or fashion. By his second year or maybe even by the end of 2021 we will see this play out.
:rolleyes:
So true
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Well the citizens of Washington DC are under "occupation of stormtroopers" ....ooooh I'm sorry my mistake, that was Trump's use of the National Guard in places where Antifa/BLM were burning cities to the ground. Silly me.
Biden has the National Guard in DC and will have a "virtual" inauguration :rolleyes: ....guess those daggum Trump supporters just ruined it for the 850 Million Biden voters that had planned on attending. ;D
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El Kabong
Well the citizens of Washington DC are under "occupation of stormtroopers" ....ooooh I'm sorry my mistake, that was Trump's use of the National Guard in places where Antifa/BLM were burning cities to the ground. Silly me.
Biden has the National Guard in DC and will have a "virtual" inauguration :rolleyes: ....guess those daggum Trump supporters just ruined it for the 850 Million Biden voters that had planned on attending. ;D
Wait. With all those walls around and all those police around, WHAT HAPPENED TO WALLS DON'T WORK AND DEFUND THE POLICE?
damn. Go figure.
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Re: Seriously..... how safe will Biden be?
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NoSavingByTheBell
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El Kabong
Well the citizens of Washington DC are under "occupation of stormtroopers" ....ooooh I'm sorry my mistake, that was Trump's use of the National Guard in places where Antifa/BLM were burning cities to the ground. Silly me.
Biden has the National Guard in DC and will have a "virtual" inauguration :rolleyes: ....guess those daggum Trump supporters just ruined it for the 850 Million Biden voters that had planned on attending. ;D
Wait. With all those walls around and all those police around, WHAT HAPPENED TO WALLS DON'T WORK AND DEFUND THE POLICE?
damn. Go figure.
Trump himself erected walls around the Whitehouse and militarised you, a guy who had not one good word to say about American soldiers. You and El Kabongs mates who stormed the Capitol, did they love the Police? Did Blue lives matter to them?
If they would hang Pence you are not safe mate.
Get out of Dodge.
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Re: Seriously..... how safe will Biden be?
Trump is a bad loser of a fair and free election. He provoked that mob to cause that embarrassment to the country. He has mishandled the covid 19 virus and the sooner he is gone the better everyone will be from this crisis.
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Master
Trump is a bad loser of a fair and free election. He provoked that mob to cause that embarrassment to the country. He has mishandled the covid 19 virus and the sooner he is gone the better everyone will be from this crisis.
They are struggling to let go and give up their addiction to outrage mate. Pity it wasn't there for the last four years of this shit show. Trump has been the very epitome of a media product pushing the same old neo capitalist globalist propaganda but notched up to 11 and sold as an 'alternative'.
It is truly mystifying how easily people can be duped with 'more of the same" but with a promise to pose as something he clearly has never been.
Next they will be telling everyone that the Windsors, the House of Saud etc are all poor persecuted outsiders... Lol.
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Master
Trump is a bad loser of a fair and free election. He provoked that mob to cause that embarrassment to the country. He has mishandled the covid 19 virus and the sooner he is gone the better everyone will be from this crisis.
He was provoking and building paranoia about 'take back the Country' and fixed elections before he was even sworn in. Irony is thick, the man who babbled about bringing all the troops home and threats coming from across the boarders to justify a wall now see's a full Division deployed in D.C and walls with razor wire stemming from violent anti democratic threats. He brought them 'home' alright :p.
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Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
Master
Trump is a bad loser of a fair and free election. He provoked that mob to cause that embarrassment to the country. He has mishandled the covid 19 virus and the sooner he is gone the better everyone will be from this crisis.
He was provoking and building paranoia about 'take back the Country' and fixed elections before he was even sworn in. Irony is thick, the man who babbled about bringing all the troops home and threats coming from across the boarders to justify a wall now see's a full Division deployed in D.C and walls with razor wire stemming from violent anti democratic threats. He brought them 'home' alright :p.
Quite the opposite of every single thing you just said
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Re: Seriously..... how safe will Biden be?
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NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
Master
Trump is a bad loser of a fair and free election. He provoked that mob to cause that embarrassment to the country. He has mishandled the covid 19 virus and the sooner he is gone the better everyone will be from this crisis.
He was provoking and building paranoia about 'take back the Country' and fixed elections before he was even sworn in. Irony is thick, the man who babbled about bringing all the troops home and threats coming from across the boarders to justify a wall now see's a full Division deployed in D.C and walls with razor wire stemming from violent anti democratic threats. He brought them 'home' alright :p.
Quite the opposite of every single thing you just said
Why lie?
What are you trying to prove?
There are four years of evidence. Mountains of it. You seem very invested in maintaining this false tribalism.
Spicoli's post is not only accurate it is so beautifully and succinctly put someone should buy the man a keg.
Your response?
Crass fingers in your ears stuff. You sound like El Kabong defending the indefensible.
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
Master
Trump is a bad loser of a fair and free election. He provoked that mob to cause that embarrassment to the country. He has mishandled the covid 19 virus and the sooner he is gone the better everyone will be from this crisis.
He was provoking and building paranoia about 'take back the Country' and fixed elections before he was even sworn in. Irony is thick, the man who babbled about bringing all the troops home and threats coming from across the boarders to justify a wall now see's a full Division deployed in D.C and walls with razor wire stemming from violent anti democratic threats. He brought them 'home' alright :p.
Quite the opposite of every single thing you just said
Why lie?
What are you trying to prove?
There are four years of evidence. Mountains of it. You seem very invested in maintaining this false tribalism.
Spicoli's post is not only accurate it is so beautifully and succinctly put someone should buy the man a keg.
Your response?
Crass fingers in your ears stuff. You sound like El Kabong defending the indefensible.
:goodvsevil: Brockatola
And I want my keg by this weekend Frenchy ;D
