So many. I’m big on the blues so i have a deep appreciation for the blues but so many artists were doing revolutionary stuff that we take for granted. Figured I’d start with buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQzuvfvBdE
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So many. I’m big on the blues so i have a deep appreciation for the blues but so many artists were doing revolutionary stuff that we take for granted. Figured I’d start with buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQzuvfvBdE
a different angle here but I think nature and the sounds of nature have made the biggest impact on music
W.C. Handy, Leadbelly and Jelly Roll Morton, guys like that, who led to guys like B.B King and John Lee Hooker and Muddy Waters who led to guys like Elvis and Jagger and Richards. That's the bloodlines of everything you listen to.
Actually you should have started with Robert JohnsonQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Well, western music (which we know) anyway. I’d imagine a very different and possibly interesting list for things like Chinese music, African music, Polynesian or Latin American. I most certainly don’t know enough about them, but we shouldn’t think that our music is the only - or even the oldest - music there is?
Oh certainly not. Definitely the Chinese and india were doing wild shit back in the day. George Harrison actually opened a lot of western ears to Indian music, the sitar is a beautiful instrument. It’s kind of hard to cover everything. I just started with buddy as he was a pioneer and I always liked him but the list of influencers really is endless. McCartney was influenced by Bach in a few of his songs. Paul Simon did a lot with African music and mickey heart of the Grateful Dead spent time traveling Africa to study their ancient history of drums, fascinating stuff. He wrote a book about just thatQuote:
Originally Posted by X
This is Uraghah.
He is not very well known these days, but back in the day he was a music legend. He was the most famous artist of his generation and influenced a whole species.
It’s said that he could improvise a 12 minute drum solo with his club and his neighbour’s head. He once played an innovative riff with the intestines of his enemies and pioneered the early use of using backing vocals (he used the screams of his victims overlaid on the wailing of their widows on his definitive ‘Ooh Ah Ah Ooh Aaaaaah’ legendary hit which topped the newly created charts in 25,000BC). A true classic, echoes of which resonate through popular music to this day.
At one point, he had all of the top twenty hit singles (hit being the operative word), a feat likely to be unmatched in the future. In fairness, he was the only musical artist at the time, having killed and eaten most of his competition.
Many of his performances drew outrage from the mainstream media of the day, and he received much criticism for cutting his hair. The jungle drums were filled with articles condemning him as a bad influence on younger Neanderthals. Despite this, he became the voice of his generation, he transcended music by raping and having children with a Homo Sapiens woman thus becoming an early supporter of mixed species marriage.
Like many geniuses, he dies tragically young. In a death eerily prescient of that of Marie Curie, he was experimenting with the sound made by rubbing wooden sticks together. Not knowing of the dangers of fire, a stray spark caught in the animal fat he had rubbed on his skin and he perished in the resulting conflagration. He was 14 years old.
I have searched YouTube for some videos of his playing live, but couldn’t find any for some reason. I’m not sure why, maybe it’s a copyright thing. Does anybody have any of Uragah’s work on video that they can post?
https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...tid=5751&stc=1
X I know you have traveled quite a bit I saw a concert of ancient Chinese music in Beijing. It was weird to me ear but I definitely appreciated it
Like check this shit out. I don’t know what he is sayin but damn it got feeling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcKD2f46G_4
Snap look how he handles that instrument. Like it’s an extension of his body. Many of these people have a natural inclination towards these things. I’ve played for years but it was never a “natural” thing for me. I had to put in a lot of time and practice. I have played with the “gifted” crowd. I can tell the difference. Let’s be honest you can practice and become good, you can’t practice and reach Beethoven level. That shit is so far above normal human operation it’s astounding. It’s like that with many things in life. Very hard to achieve a certainly level if you weren’t born with that inclination, there are always exceptions to that rule but it is pretty solid. I don’t know maybe it’s debatable but that’s how I see it
Besides straight ahead Bebop like John Coltrane and Charlie Parker and Sonny Fortune and Charlie Mingus and besides really only being able to listen to Jimi Hendrix in general from western music, I only listen to Indian and Arabic music all day all night 7 days a week.
And of course, while being more of an American thing, this man was doing shit that blew people away. Listen to his riffs. It’s astounding stuff. A mythical figure, beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MCHI23FTP8
Yeah that's good guitar playing and totally influenced Jimi Hendrix and people like that
Let's not forget about Charlie Christian
And if you dig the Indian stuff I’m sure you have heard this. I mean seriously I’m not saying it wasn’t listened to in the US before the Beatles but they did, especially George Harrison, make the west much more aware of itQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr54nqD1URA
Yeah that's one of my favorite Beatles songs of all time including that other one which I never remember the title of but they keep saying "sit right back relax and go down slow... You are not dying you are not dying.... From the beginning from the beginning"
Tomorrow never knows that may be the first time the sitar was used in rock I believe but I gotta check thatQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I really loved John McLaughlin's Shakti album and he also did a nice acoustic album with all Indian players... try to listen to the song What need have I for this what need have I for that I am dancing at the feet of my Lord all is bliss all is bliss by John McLaughlin and maybe called lotus feet
Surely THIS is the start of a renaissance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmNzZOZj3W0
Just like the general State or more specifically the intellectual state of human beings in general these days, I just don't know what happened to music. That is the most vile trash I have ever heard and should not be categorized as music but maybe as pornographyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellJust like the general State or more specifically the intellectual state of human beings in general these days, I just don't know what happened to music. That is the most vile trash I have ever heard and should not be categorized as music but maybe as pornographyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
You see already El Kabong has provided a cast iron example of how addicted to outrage he is. This is a thread in which everyone else has used the opportunity to either share what they love or use their brain and sense of humour in the case of X, but El Kabong literally uses it as an excuse to draw everyone's attention to something he is outraged about. Most people i am sure would not even be aware of the track or video if he did not have this constant need to bitch. He is so incredibly miserable it is pretty sad. I am sure he never used to be like this years ago.
Fucking tragic.
Now this is a bit out there and not for everyone but I find it interesting. Unique way to look at music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwYjfPdgQM
You know....when you point a finger at me, you have 3 pointing back at you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellJust like the general State or more specifically the intellectual state of human beings in general these days, I just don't know what happened to music. That is the most vile trash I have ever heard and should not be categorized as music but maybe as pornographyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
You see already El Kabong has provided a cast iron example of how addicted to outrage he is. This is a thread in which everyone else has used the opportunity to either share what they love or use their brain and sense of humour in the case of X, but El Kabong literally uses it as an excuse to draw everyone's attention to something he is outraged about. Most people i am sure would not even be aware of the track or video if he did not have this constant need to bitch. He is so incredibly miserable it is pretty sad. I am sure he never used to be like this years ago.
Fucking tragic.
You know, before Elvis, before the Beatles, this dude had girls passing out. Can’t forget old blue eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLC5AGGHLz0
It's cliché to say "I listen to everything" but for the most part it's true thanks to early and varying exposures. I got big band and some Ragtime as a kid from Dad. Doo wop and early rock n roll, James Brown and Fats Domino from Mom. Oldest sister with the garage, surf rock and ska, other sisters with everything from ballad rock anthems to disco :cwm13: to hair metal to Country. It's endless. Started the whole duel tape deck recording in in grade school..still have my original mix tapes stuffed in some storage unit :-X. Growing up in Southern California was a literal Chinese menu of life long influences. Early pick ups from home went from Hendrix and Sabbath and Stones to New Wave. Oh and Dr. Demento. That turned to heavy influences in early UK punk, pogo, Oi then hardcore punk, skate thrash, speed metal and reggae. Then rap to hip hop. That was massive. Do you know how many wtf looks you get when you walk around saying early urban hip hop was just as 'punk rock' as what the weird kids in suburbia were jamming ;D. Music is life, beyond labels and stereotypes. It sets moods, highlights memories, blaze new paths, soothes the soul and you can go anywhere with it. Literally at any time. Well except Nickelback. You can keep that horseshat.
Forgot mariachi bands and whatever the hell La Chona is classified as ;D. Cannot understand a work and don't really care. That is all energy. There's also something I stumbled into the last few years, like real early western rock/rockabilly/ country out of the 50's. Ernest Tubb, Sanford Clark etc. Some of these are lyrically genius with a sinister edge.
https://youtu.be/9qq-jjE4LEg
Ha cool stuff. I like to think I’m eclectic in my music. I make sure to at least listen to new stuff so I know what’s going on. Even rap. A lot of the clients i work with are die hard rappers. So they blast that shit and once in a while they play one I think is cool. Like I can make out the lyrics and the beat is cool. I’ll go out and ask them who it is. I’ll admit I did hate metal for a time but now that I hardly hear it when one comes on I’ll listen I I get it. Not my thing doesn’t mean it’s bad. I remember the concerts I went to in Shanghai and bejing and hearing sounds I never heard before. China, although I think it more common in India don’t necessarily stay in key or use the chords our western music is based on. It’s like to us you screwed up if you play out of key to them it’s part of the song. It’s like rules we made up. They don’t follow that shit and it works fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Another love of mine, Motown. I think it’s a shame how it’s become lost in a way. Now if you have heard Motown you have heard James jamerson. Talk about an influential musician he was pretty much the bass of Motown and damn this man could play. Influenced countless bass players including Jaco. Here are some highlights of his playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzXlqO7PWQ4
@Spicoli didn't know about southern California but damn that is some big time mix of stuff. Just curious because most of that stuff I also like as well, when you say New Wave are you talking about Gary Newman in cars and stuff like Devo and The b-52s and flock of seagulls? Because I was in a band when that stuff came out and we had to do all of those tunes you know rock lobster and I ran I ran so far away
Little Richard. On Occasion Prince wore very similar attire, did similar acts on piano. Inspired many blues singers to go up tempo. Without him not sure if Prince would have worn blouses and pants with glitter buttons and whatnots, even the hairdo.
https://youtu.be/HXyQpPTUh8I
Wes Montgomery- so the story goes his wife didnt like him playing all night, so to quiet his studies he let the guitar pick go and went by thumb which allowed him to strike 2 notes just different octave- at the same time.
His playing in Octaves IMO revultionized how guitarists played. There would be no George Benson, no Norman Brown, none of these contemporary jazz guitar players would base their playing on octaves -if it werent for Wes Montgomery!
James Brown- From Soul, to R&B to creating a sound called Funk. Michael Jackson, Morris Day, Prince, they all imitated him as a kid.
Without James there would be NO FUNK GENRE!
No cameo, no Ohio Players no Parliament, No Bootsy, none of that!!
James is the Greatest of influencers. His dance moves caused a generation of dancers. His bass player Bootsy -took that and expanded Funk through the God of Funk George Clinton...without James? No George & funk as he was playing acid rock music.
Larry Graham of Sly & Family Stone- was hailed as the 1st bassist to pluck, snap and or thump the strings. Since him Stanly Clark, Marcus Miller, Stewart Hamm, none of these thumping geniuses would have existed had it not been for Larry. No Brothers Johnson with Get the funk out my face, Stomp- his bass playing was centered around thumping -to which Quincy Jones used for many projects including Michael Jackson songs like Get on the Floor.
Eddie Van Halen. I think he started the finger tapping. After him tap-mania took over!!! The era of shredders came to be.
Prince- I did a thread on great influencers and showed about a dozen artists that came as a direct of either Prince producing, writing, composing for artists who best hits were a result of Prince. Sinead O'conner biggest hit- written by Prince. Chaka Khan resurgence from 70s to 80s was due to a song he wrote. There would be no Morris Day & The Time to which there would have been no Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis who wrote EVERY HIT for Janet Jackson.
Michael Jackson- His moves were definitely his own- as with James Brown...whereas Prince stole moves from James & Lil Richard. MJ got his moves from street corner, to dancers from Soul Train- but what made him the BIG Influence- was pre MJ, music videos were just that: A band, singer group being filmed singing. Mike took that to another level- I think it was based on Elvis Presly movie Jail House Rock - as Eddie Murphy joked -he was a bad actor- so he sang his dialogue! Well MJ took that idea and turned his music videos into a production. scenes, coreography.
He is the reason 200 dancers are always on stage with whatever the big act is from madonna to MC Hammer to Beyonce to Usher...they all got to have 3 thousand dancers on stage LOL! Michael Jackson did that.
Metallica- Now there were quite a few metal bands before, but these guys survived the change from heavy metal to grundge. Their extended riffs IMO today can be heard in many a great acts post 90s till today. Whereas IMO, bands like Black Sabbath era- most of the 70s acts molded their own style. Cream, Doors, none of these were cookie cutter acts. But Post Metallica, I heard Metallica cookie cutter wannabe bands!!
And as My POP would say:
The Temptations. Before them, singing groups could sing their arse off, but when the Temptations got their day- dance steps became a HUGE part of the act. Before them they stood in a tight circle and either snapped their finger in time or swayed one way.
After them...for about a decade every R&B act started off as "THE" The Dramatics, The Spinners, The Floaters. Everyone had to have a DEEP bass singer, a falsetto in between.
And they all had to have a dance routine.
West Montgomery to me stands out in that list just a bit more significantly than the others but all are definitely major influencers
Newman was good and The Cars and Devo were big. Men at Work, The Fixx, Psychedelic Furs, Talking Heads, The Cure..Bananarama. Original Babies on Fire by Brian Eno :-X. Never big on B 52s but there was a re up party house every weekend that and Violent Femmes was literally all they played.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Yep all those bands were big and I remember every one of themQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliNewman was good and The Cars and Devo were big. Men at Work, The Fixx, Psychedelic Furs, Talking Heads, The Cure..Bananarama. Original Babies on Fire by Brian Eno :-X. Never big on B 52s but there was a re up party house every weekend that and Violent Femmes was literally all they played.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Can’t forget this dude. When he performed it the first time he was booed and called Judas. Went on to be an anthem. This dude influenced so many and has been writing and performing for 6 decades. You go see his shows there are people 15-78 there. He touches everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kv0vF41Bc
You played in a band? What instrument? IMO, you on stage would've been a hellatious drummer. I wonder under the costume if this is really you playing mellow, then u watched some kid walk by with their parent who had on a Biden T shirt around 30 seconds into clip !;D Shame on you!Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellYep all those bands were big and I remember every one of themQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliNewman was good and The Cars and Devo were big. Men at Work, The Fixx, Psychedelic Furs, Talking Heads, The Cure..Bananarama. Original Babies on Fire by Brian Eno :-X. Never big on B 52s but there was a re up party house every weekend that and Violent Femmes was literally all they played.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
https://youtu.be/QZShA_a-5r8
@NoSavingByTheBell true identity revealed!! Moonlight drumming at local festivals @ykdadamaja @Beanz @Master @Spicoli
@SlimTrae I played lead guitar from the age of 14 starting with the songs by Kiss and Black Sabbath, then around 18 or 19 years old had a jazz fusion band with songs like the mahavishnu orchestra and return to forever. Always wanted to play the drums and I can't stop listening to Ginger Baker.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeYou played in a band? What instrument? IMO, you on stage would've been a hellatious drummer. I wonder under the costume if this is really you playing mellow, then u watched some kid walk by with their parent who had on a Biden T shirt around 30 seconds into clip !;D Shame on you!Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellYep all those bands were big and I remember every one of themQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliNewman was good and The Cars and Devo were big. Men at Work, The Fixx, Psychedelic Furs, Talking Heads, The Cure..Bananarama. Original Babies on Fire by Brian Eno :-X. Never big on B 52s but there was a re up party house every weekend that and Violent Femmes was literally all they played.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
https://youtu.be/QZShA_a-5r8
@NoSavingByTheBell true identity revealed!! Moonlight drumming at local festivals @ykdadamaja @Beanz @Master @Spicoli
whoever watches the first 3 minutes of this has their brains scrambled up and changed forever: I, of course, am immune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tjl2SnrBB0
Doesn’t seem right to not have Brian Wilson here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx5PVjsRamk&list=RDgx5PVjsRamk&start_radio =1
I remember in 2016 you were really big on Brian Wilson. Weren't you talking about Brian Wilson by the time we ordered the second round of Sex on the Beach?
Actually no you were going on and on and on about Bob Dylan
I feel bad cause I used to not like The Beach Boys and they wrote some excellent music. Never really appreciated it. Now I got to put up “god only knows” what a beautiful song. I’ve always loved Dylan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMyS78o5YI
the haunting intro to Good Vibes was hauntingness since I was 9 years old, I remember I used to just play the haunting intro over and over and over as a '45 on the record player in 1972