Why the fuck is Zab getting so much respect?

Zab has shown in the past that he can be a dirty fighter. He blatantly hit Floyd below the belt and then, even worse IMO, he gave him a pretty good rabbit punch. If you look at the tape, Zab knew exactly what he was doing, his eyes were focused on Floyd's crotch when he threw that low blow. Zab continues to prove each and every time that he's a despicable human being and I won't give him props just because he lasted 12. IMO he was getting punished thoroughly and he would have went down eventually because he was getting extremely tired and worn out. And the worst part of this whole debacle is that he actually thanked his "lord and savior" during his interview with Lampley. What a herb.

dirty fighter or no dirty fighter, Zab showed he could fight and was not scared of Floyd.

to go 12 rounds with the P4P best in the world - thats a pretty impressive feat. yes zab can be a twat but dont u think that deserves a least a little respect?

Good call, Zab is a talented fighter but he's not all that and I still can't get that image out of my head where Kostya Tszu battered him.

PBF is the business, they keep putting people in front of him and he keeps beating them.
He may be a bit of a twat but he sure knows how to win and he is a sweet fighter.

I wish Ricky Hattons management could do something other than bimble about giving us a snore fest.
They should keep Ricky in light welter and let him have a pop at Cotto before Cotto moves up.

I agree that judah shouldn't be getting that much respect. IMO it wasn't that good of a performance by Zab. I think corley gave Mayweather a better fight.Alot of people are trying to give zab all this credit for doing good in 3 rounds but forget its a 12 round fight. If I saw a judges card that had floyd winning everything after 4 I wouldn't be mad. No disrespect to zab cause he did ok for a second. He probably should of got credit for a knockdown. But he couldn't put a dent in mayweather. I think that was zabs best shot and all it did was knock him off balance.But from 5 on he was total outclassed and throughly beat up. Mayweather didn't knock him out but thats probably the worst I've seen judahs face. Mayweathers face was blemish free. So will I give zab credit for surviving? Yes. Will I give him credit for being a man and stepping in the ring? Yes,but not for giving a great effort. It seemed like he lost his heart when he couldn't land anymore.He was afraid to let his hands go.I can't give credit for that.

I don't think anyone in the boxing world is giving Zab much respect, only a few delusional fans here. According to them, he was supposed to be the natural welterweight, the one with more power who was going to catch Floyd and knock him out, and Floyd came up to his weight class, took his belt, and there ain't a damn thing he can do about it.

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Originally Posted by Medina

to go 12 rounds with the P4P best in the world - thats a pretty impressive feat.

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I thought Zab fought Mayweather not Barrera ;)


As for Zab, if boxing and society had the values it had 15/20 years ago, he would of received a life time ban after the Tszyu fight (Bobby Frankham did exactly the same thing in 1987, and was thrown out of the sport for life). But I guess money is more important now a days.

If it was back in the day then Corrales never would have fought again either ;)

Or Merqui Sosa.

But anyway he deserves respect and it was a good performance, he gave PBF some problems and fought his ass off and didn't come to lay down, I respect that plus that 95 percent of you didn't even think that Zab would put up that much of a challenge for PBF.

Simple answer to a simple question: He is getting respect because he deserves it. I am by no means a Zab fan(I dislike the guy) but I'm not going to let that blind the fact that he had a good fight and had he let his hands go more,like he did in the second& fourth,who knows? I personally and like Starr said,95%(I'd say 98%) thought he was going to get koed but he won the first few rounds easy and also,why the hell was there no knockdown scored in the second(or first,can't remember)when Floyd's glove hit the floor clearly from a punch!!
Don't let blind hatred take kudos away from a guy who lost to a journeyman and now went 12 with P4P Mayweather.
P.S. No, I do not like Zab,he is still a jerk and it was an intentional low blow. I just respect him for his performance last night,that's all.

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Originally Posted by albsur2006

And the worst part of this whole debacle is that he [Zab Judah] actually thanked his "lord and savior" during his interview with Lampley. What a herb.

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I agree totally. Zab wears a star of David on his trunks and thanks his "lord and savior" Jesus Christ? That's not a bad thing, but something tells me that he's not a messianic Jew (a Jewish person who believes that Christ was a great spiritual teacher who continued and expanded the teachings of Moses).

I looked it up on the internet: http://www.menorah.org/mjews.html :

"Messianic Jews
Among the 14 million Jewish people there is a group of perhaps twenty or thirty thousand people, born Jews, who believe in the Torah and the rest of the Tenach and practice Jewish customs and religion. They also believe in Jesus. Some, if not most of them, prefer to call Him by His Jewish name, Yeshua. Although small in number, they are a vocal group, constantly challenging the Jewish spiritual and secular authorities with their presence, demanding recognition as Jews."

Do you honestly believe that Zab Judah understands this? I very much doubt it!

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And the worst part of this whole debacle is that he [Zab Judah] actually thanked his "lord and savior" during his interview with Lampley. What a herb.

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I agree totally. Zab wears a star of David on his trunks and thanks his "lord and savior" Jesus Christ? That's not a bad thing, but something tells me that he's not a messianic Jew (a Jewish person who believes that Christ was a great spiritual teacher who continued and expanded the teachings of Moses).

I looked it up on the internet: http://www.menorah.org/mjews.html :

"Messianic Jews
Among the 14 million Jewish people there is a group of perhaps twenty or thirty thousand people, born Jews, who believe in the Torah and the rest of the Tenach and practice Jewish customs and religion. They also believe in Jesus. Some, if not most of them, prefer to call Him by His Jewish name, Yeshua. Although small in number, they are a vocal group, constantly challenging the Jewish spiritual and secular authorities with their presence, demanding recognition as Jews."

Do you honestly believe that Zab Judah understands this? I very much doubt it!

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why are you bringing religion into this?

Yeah guys, whatever Zab believes is no concern of ours!!!

Trying to find any reason they could to downgrade Zab :( Can we stick to boxing?

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Trying to find any reason they could to downgrade Zab :( Can we stick to boxing?

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Don't exactly have to look too hard to find a reason to downgrade Zab. His last two fights should suffice ;)

ZAB GETS RESPECT CUZ HE DROPPED MAYWEATHER WAERING THE FORCE FIELDS THAT ARE WINNINGS >:mad

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And the worst part of this whole debacle is that he [Zab Judah] actually thanked his "lord and savior" during his interview with Lampley. What a herb.

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I agree totally. Zab wears a star of David on his trunks and thanks his "lord and savior" Jesus Christ? That's not a bad thing, but something tells me that he's not a messianic Jew (a Jewish person who believes that Christ was a great spiritual teacher who continued and expanded the teachings of Moses).

I looked it up on the internet: http://www.menorah.org/mjews.html :

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This is a boxing site, so both of you can keep your religous beliefs to yourself, who the hell cares what religion Judah is, bringing religion into a boxing site, what the hell are you guys thinking, you want to start a war. ;D

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a messianic Jew (a Jewish person who believes that Christ was a great spiritual teacher who continued and expanded the teachings of Moses).

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Actually no, it is a jewish person who believes that Yeshua is the chosen one, the annointed - the prophetically promised messiah. That is decisively different than 'great spiritual teacher' which is someone just like the rest of the herd except way out in front as in very special but not qualitatively unique. Messianic Jews are Jews who are Christians but are still fully Jewish in religion and culture. They don't have to 'convert' to become Christian because it fulfills Judaism, in their view. "Hebrew Christian" on the other hand might be a Jew who 'converted' to a more common form of Christianity, like became a Roman Catholic or a Baptist or something and quit being culturally Jewish.

But as has been pointed out, this has nothing to do with the thread and I apologize profusely for expanding on this unwelcome tangent.

Except ... lots of boxers have some form of belief, and many express it in the ring, and when they win they sometimes credit the lord with giving them the victory. It's not quite so clear what they say to or about God when they lose.

Hamed, now - he was destined by Allah to win a victory for Moslems everywhere. Then MAB happened along, and destiny became dust. Does MAB worship a more powerful God? One is tempted to refer to the contest between Elijah and the prophets of Ba'al. "Come on, you priests of Ba'al," cried Elijah. "Call louder. After all, Ba'al is the god of fire, isn't he? Surely he can send down a flame to light the wood and burn up your sacrifice…. Maybe he is busy talking to someone. Maybe he is away on a trip…Oh, I know, perhaps your god is sleeping. You must call louder to wake him up."

It has nothing to do with Judah or this thread but the notion that two fighters can enter the ring, each trusting their God - sometimes the same God! - to give them the victory, and take victory as a sign of answered prayer - it would make for an interesting article in some erudite journal: "Theology and the Warrior Class in the Twenty-first Century: Personal Faith and the Right Hook." Or in a boxing rag: "The Sweet Science and The Good Lord."

Ah, ok, back to the thread. I think Zab deserves great respect for going the distance. He dominated four rounds but got outboxed by a superior boxer. But he didn't get beat so bad that he quit on his stool in the 11th round, now did he? (And do I disrespect Tzyu? Not hardly; and he quit against Hatton, a lesser boxer as time will tell than PBF against whom Judah went the distance.) Why not respect Judah?

He deserved to fight PBF, he did well enough, not good enough, didn't get shamed, just beat cleanly. Respect is due.

Now he becomes a high-end gatekeeper. So it goes. No one's saying that he has been exposed as a club fighter, are they?

Will Judah-Gatti ever be in the works? It would be interesting to see what Judah could do against a club fighter like Gatti.

'Course, he'd have to pray a little louder than he did before fighting PBF.

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Zab has shown in the past that he can be a dirty fighter. He blatantly hit Floyd below the belt and then, even worse IMO, he gave him a pretty good rabbit punch. If you look at the tape, Zab knew exactly what he was doing, his eyes were focused on Floyd's crotch when he threw that low blow. Zab continues to prove each and every time that he's a despicable human being and I won't give him props just because he lasted 12. IMO he was getting punished thoroughly and he would have went down eventually because he was getting extremely tired and worn out. And the worst part of this whole debacle is that he actually thanked his "lord and savior" during his interview with Lampley. What a herb.

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You're a fucking idiot. Zab was kicking and intimidatin Floyd's little ass for the first four rounds. Hell he knocked the sucka down, and got gyped. He also showed grit and won the last two rounds. It was a damn close fight, becus that KD wasn't scored, and Maywhether did very well winning a lot of middle rounds I'd probably have to score it 115-113 for Floyd. But Floyd is a dirty fighter, with no honor. ZERO. He always finds ways to hit on the break and cheap shot his opponents, be it when they are adjustin their trunks(Corrales), or lookin at the ref after the break(Gatti), he also has a habit of ridin his opponents and stickin his forearm in their throats and chokin em. Sure Judah pulled some shat hittin em in da nutz and clubbin him in the head, but he had had enuff. And dumbass Roger had no business jumpin in there, that is usually an automatic DQ for the fighter, when his cornerman jumps in the ring like that in the middle of the fight. I'm glad it wasn't in this case, but I'm just sayin that was a dumass move by ol Roger.