Adrien Broner v Jovanie Santiago 2/20 Showtime

Anyone really care anymore ;D. Talk about how fast they fall. Seems like just yesterday he was having his Pop brush his hair mid ring and talking about defeating cans or something. Now though he's close to needing to collect and recycle them :cwm13:. Some how this now qualifies as a Showtime huge fight but fair play everyone needs to make a buck. Not expecting much but stranger things have happened. One Jovanie 'El Lobito' Santiago 14-0-1 out of Puerto Rico gets the assignment whos biggest scalp to date looks to be a 46 yr old Chop Chop Corley.

Heavyweights Otto Wallin and Dominic Breazeale ?! fight on the co main. Oof. Or may be the main event I really don't know.

https://youtu.be/aWYw-CwrYwQ

Broner is this era's Judah; a potential top notch athlete with too much ego and not enough discipline, mind power & humility (to follow his trainer/team) plans inside & outside the ring.

Only Zab was nowhere near the egomaniac as this dude. I felt a bit sorry to see Zab become a waste. Not for this guy.

https://youtu.be/mgFOXl2pL4g

Watched the highlights he has- the guys he dropped with bodyshots seemed ready to fold. IMO he doesn't appear to be strong enough or fast enough. Like a small version of Edwin 'Labomba' Rodrirguez IMO: more heart than skill, power and speed.
With that said: I got Jovaine!!!!



https://youtu.be/GoUjgVvweLM



If his chin is durable, hopefully a decision will persuade judges-if his workrate endures.

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https://youtu.be/aWYw-CwrYwQ

Broner is this era's Judah; a potential top notch athlete with too much ego and not enough discipline, mind power & humility (to follow his trainer/team) plans inside & outside the ring.

Only Zab was nowhere near the egomaniac as this dude. I felt a bit sorry to see Zab become a waste. Not for this guy.

https://youtu.be/mgFOXl2pL4g

Watched the highlights he has- the guys he dropped with bodyshots seemed ready to fold. IMO he doesn't appear to be strong enough or fast enough. Like a small version of Edwin 'Labomba' Rodrirguez IMO: more heart than skill, power and speed.
With that said: I got Jovaine!!!!



https://youtu.be/GoUjgVvweLM



If his chin is durable, hopefully a decision will persuade judges-if his workrate endures.

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Yeh compared to Zab Broner was never even in the building. Joke of Judah was he was the best 4 round legit phenomenal performer in recent memory..then the rounds started stacking up and the waning happened. Broner was a predictable dumpster fire from jump but much of it was being allowed to shat all over the stage and bite the hand that fed him. He pulled that same 'Fook boxing blah blah' back right before the Vicente Escobedo fight. Came in bloated and spoiled, paid not one but two fines, dropped the belt and ballooned to full 147 v a current spr featherweight. Man literally stood next to the Showtime crew that night 'f this, f you I don't need boxing' yet they still bent the knee. If anything Santiago has never lost and hasn't been shown how. Well known that Broner has become more than accustomed to flopping v top talents and disappointing v others.

Any chance that this gobshite gets beaten and we hear the last of him? Probably not. Be nice though wouldn't it? ;D

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Any chance that this gobshite gets beaten and we hear the last of him? Probably not. Be nice though wouldn't it? ;D

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We have been hoping for that for years and that is why he keeps on fighting because he makes money out of being a jackass that everyone wants to see him lose.

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Any chance that this gobshite gets beaten and we hear the last of him? Probably not. Be nice though wouldn't it? ;D

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We have been hoping for that for years and that is why he keeps on fighting because he makes money out of being a jackass that everyone wants to see him lose.

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Who in their right mind would be watching him tonight though when Berchelt-Valdez is on elsewhere!? ;D

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Any chance that this gobshite gets beaten and we hear the last of him? Probably not. Be nice though wouldn't it? ;D

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We have been hoping for that for years and that is why he keeps on fighting because he makes money out of being a jackass that everyone wants to see him lose.

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You'd have thought the humiliation he suffered at the hands of Marcos Maidana years ago might have toned his shit down, but I guess not.

Once an A-hole... always an A-hole.

After boxing, he'll probably end up in prison.

Easter Jr and Ryan Martin putting on a decent fight this first 6 of 12. Martin woke up and ripped quality doubles and triples last round emphasis on body. Easter steady boxing long in 5th.

That cutting sharp jab of Easter reeeeally on point tonight. Just sharpshooting now.

Dominic Breazeale ffs. PBC has their Co main slots all top billing don't they ;D

Martin really fades over the last half. He knows it corner knows it and judges prob wide. Easter does a paint job, seems to be hitting a bit stiffer.

117-111..118-110 x2 Easter W.

Broner is hilarious, he's like a terrible comedy character brought to life and totally unaware he's the joke. As for his boxing he's a great balance of talent, laziness and idiocy, I find him great fun to watch fight.

The Showtime crew basically holding a wake for Broner's career in the ninth round. It must be even worse than it looks.

Broner is looking a bit like an old man here

This trash truck actually going into the 'deciding' 12th ;D.

115-112..116-111..117-110...all Broner :author:. He gets to go on and lose another high level fight. Hooray

Broner wins, I didn't see the whole thing but the commentators aren't making it sound like broner should have got that...

Broner is going to get kod of he heads for the top, could be fun.

And we know where the money for this fights is going...


https://youtu.be/mW-FceZgH8k


I laughed when the judge said that is your problem -Adrian the Problem Broner.

Can anyone attest that Broner won this? Looking at punchstats Santiago given 207 punches to Broner's 98? Lands zero in 1st round?

This is IMO is the biggest problem with scoring in pugilism. It is as if, certain judges reserve their scores if a fighter is landing light punches.
Skip that. If a fighter is landing here & there & by rounds end has landed twice the amount, unless he's bleeding I got to give the round to the busy fighter that connects no matter if they are the lighter punches.
round 6 seems to have been his best 13 out of 32 to Santiagog 28 out of 82.


Is it possible to say in spite of a fighter landing twice as much is thrawrted because of how well the other guy connected?

The only way I can envion giving a fighter the win after they are out landed 98 to 207 is literally reserve myself for 2:50+ seconds of everyone round.
But if I am objective- I score for punches landed. & if they're close in connects? THEN is when I'd give the round to most effective shots.

AB lives to trasktalk another day.

Didn't see the fight but looking on social media the decision was a stinker, but no one is all that surprised or outrage.

Sad thing is it could have propelled Santiago up somewhat, as Broner is still somehow seemingly a name. It's robbed Santiago of another big name fight/payday, while Broner gets another chance to go in and make a large sum to ultimately waste.....sad!

We all know boxing is money driven and Broner is a money generating fighter

yes its a shame for Santiago but by Wednesday well have all forgotten he exists

That almost sounds like we've conceded that "normal."

Sad.

Of course he didn't make weight again. I wonder why Haymon loves him so much. No win for four years and he gets a Showtime date and a house fighter decision. He's rubbish to watch and he's run out of outrageous stuff to say. Can't wait to see him lose again and for Haymon to eventually get sick of him.

scored it 115-112 santiago