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Vasyl Lomachenko v Devin Haney
Vasyl Lomachenko and Devin Haney exchange words on social media after Bob Arum says he would welcome fight
Vasyl Lomachenko and Devin Haney have gone back and forth on social media after Loma’s promoter Bob Arum welcomed a potential fight between them.
The Ukrainian was dethroned of his lightweight titles by Teofimo Lopez last year, but is not looking for an easy comeback bout.
Masayoshi Nakatani was previously suggested by Arum for Lomachenko’s return, though he’s also said they would consider a future meeting with Haney.
Arum told Barbershop Conversations: “Loma vs Haney? That’s a fight we would certainly consider.
“That’d be a really good fight. There’s a lot of good fights for Loma…
“Loma can fight maybe Ryan Garcia. Or, if he wants to go down, maybe Oscar Valdez is a great match for Loma.”
Back in 2019, Haney became WBC ‘interim’ lightweight champion and mandatory challenger for Lomachenko.
However, just when he was about to get his shot, Loma was upgraded to WBC ‘franchise’ champion – meaning Haney became the standard world champion by default.
Lomachenko instead fought Teofimo and was upset by unanimous decision, while Haney has been criticised for not winning his belt from a champion.
Haney tweeted on Sunday night: “Where tf is Loma at!?!?!?”
o which Lomachenko replied: “I’m here! I’m waiting for you cowards to decide on a real fight, and not on a Twitter fight.”
Haney then quote-tweeted this and referenced Lomachenko’s slow start against Teofimo by saying: “Waiting is not your best bet. I would think you learned that from the Teo fight.”
And Loma responded: “Waiting is your favourite action, because you still haven’t fought with anyone.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/8...-social-media/
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They both want it, but the cancer of boxing (arum) is all that's standing in between them.
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Wish these guys would leave the Twatter disputes to the teenage girls ;D. But Loma is right. Haney seems especially fond of talking the loudest but Teofimo isn't far behind post Loma W. Arum basically concedes Teo's 1st title defense to Triller ??? so it's likely Teofimo will be the co main to some circus "fight".
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Arum's dirt politics makes me appreciate Con King all the more. His downfall/beef was never with fans, but his fighters. Without them telling us, King in Arum's spot today? Loma vs Haney would not only get made, but the undercard would've been dynamite as well.
I still say King had the most stacked cards. Fights were often made. I truly think Loma would've had several more scalps.
As far as DAZN, GBP, sanctioning bodies, new divisions & belts poppin up all the time I just don't know where the corruption begins or ends.:-\
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I do not rate Haney to be honest.
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Dark Lord Al
I do not rate Haney to be honest.
Great potential, but need to see him execute it against better opposition, I concur.
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Spicoli
Wish these guys would leave the Twatter disputes to the teenage girls ;D. But Loma is right. Haney seems especially fond of talking the loudest but Teofimo isn't far behind post Loma W. Arum basically concedes Teo's 1st title defense to Triller ??? so it's likely Teofimo will be the co main to some circus "fight".
Never been a fan of this shit, but promoters, TV stations and seemingly the social media boxing fans lap it up. All about "selling" a fight, sparking interest but I think it's pretty embarrassing most of the time. Just do you fighting in the ring. Manny and Canelo never had to do any shit talk, they got their status and fanbase on what they did in the ring.
I even avoid the nonesense of press conferences and any kind of head-to-head shows/documentaries in the fight build ups. All cringeworthy to me.
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Dark Lord Al
I do not rate Haney to be honest.
Great potential, but need to see him execute it against better opposition, I concur.
He is obviously good at everything he can do , but I don't see the X factor , not great power , or speed, he is good but nothing special.
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Spicoli
Wish these guys would leave the Twatter disputes to the teenage girls ;D. But Loma is right. Haney seems especially fond of talking the loudest but Teofimo isn't far behind post Loma W. Arum basically concedes Teo's 1st title defense to Triller ??? so it's likely Teofimo will be the co main to some circus "fight".
He’s right talking ish on Twitter while saying their cowards for talking ish on Twitter and Haney needs to fight someone but he won’t fight Haney. Madness
Let’s get this all quite clear, Loma REQUESTED a protection belt to not fight his mandatory, Haney. Teo is acting like a protection belt is a real belt, acting like he’s undisputed but refusing the fight that would make him undisputed. And Garcia is refusing his mandatory position.
This is all very simple, fight Haney or kindly STFU because you are pathetic. That goes for all 3 of those pathetic BSers. 14-2 included
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At some point you people need to stop blaming promoters and networks and blame yourselves. Until you fault the people that do this nonsense they will continue to do it.
Loma ducked him, call it how it is. Teo is ducking him, call it how it is, Garcia is ducking him, call it how it is. Until you folks quit with the crap “I like him so I’ll back him” this is what you get.
Boxing gets right when fans are honest
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Spicoli
Wish these guys would leave the Twatter disputes to the teenage girls ;D. But Loma is right. Haney seems especially fond of talking the loudest but Teofimo isn't far behind post Loma W. Arum basically concedes Teo's 1st title defense to Triller ??? so it's likely Teofimo will be the co main to some circus "fight".
He’s right talking ish on Twitter while saying their cowards for talking ish on Twitter and Haney needs to fight someone but he won’t fight Haney. Madness
Let’s get this all quite clear, Loma REQUESTED a protection belt to not fight his mandatory, Haney. Teo is acting like a protection belt is a real belt, acting like he’s undisputed but refusing the fight that would make him undisputed. And Garcia is refusing his mandatory position.
This is all very simple, fight Haney or kindly STFU because you are pathetic. That goes for all 3 of those pathetic BSers. 14-2 included
Seems more like he's responding to shat as Haney screams more than a spiteful ex. If you think I'm a Loma or Garcia defender you have the wrong guy ;D but he's right about Haney having not fought anyone. Title or not, get them scalps, make a statement and then do your barking. If Haney wants to hang his hat on coasting with a 40 yr old Gamboa well so be it. The kid has tremendous potential and solid skill but you can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat. He's trying to have it backwards. Funny you don't rail on the crooked con men in the alphabet belt syndicates inventing these trinkets and greasy Bob but frankly between a WbC Sulliedman and Loma, I'll believe the fighter who went the route of unifying the division v a proven threat just as formidable as Haney in Teofimo. He lost, been known to happen. Now we wait while they fight twatter wars.
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card could look like this
junto nakatani v andrew moloney for the vacant wbo super flyweight title
raymond muratalla v jeremia nakathila
oscar valdez v adam lopez in a rematch
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The size difference is startling. Loma has a big challenge in front of him.
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Following his victory, Shakur Stevenson called out the undisputed 135lb champion Devin Haney and will have a keen eye on May 20 when Haney defends his titles against Vasiliy Lomachenko.
But when asked by The DAZN Boxing Show to give a prediction for the fight, Stevenson can only see one winner in Las Vegas.
"I think he [Devin Haney] smokes Lomachenko," Stevenson claimed.
"Lomachenko is too old, too small.
"I didn’t like the way he looked against Ortiz. I saw him in the gym two or three weeks ago, he looked like a 126lb fighter, he doesn’t look like a 135lb fighter.
"I think Dev is too long and tall."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...309d07de&ei=21
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Ron Swanson
At some point you people need to stop blaming promoters and networks and blame yourselves. Until you fault the people that do this nonsense they will continue to do it.
Loma ducked him, call it how it is. Teo is ducking him, call it how it is, Garcia is ducking him, call it how it is. Until you folks quit with the crap “I like him so I’ll back him” this is what you get.
Boxing gets right when fans are honest
Hasn’t changed either, as true now as it was then. Blaming the guy that’s being ducked is the single weirdest thing boxing fans do. You get the fights when you call for them, not when you excuse ducking
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You get the fights when you call for them
not always. there have been fights i've called for that have not happened
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Devin Haney is ready to comprehensively "pick apart" Vasyl Lomachenko and show he is better than his rival in every department.
Haney, 24, is putting his WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO titles on the line in Las Vegas on May 20 as he takes on the former three-weight world champion - and he fully expects the fight to be a lot easier than some are predicting. The lightweight told Mirror Fighting : "I think I'm going to be better than Loma in every aspect; faster, stronger, smarter. I think I will show a lot of his flaws that he has in the ring, with me being so big and just so young and athletic."
And Haney is confident an emphatic performance under the lights of Las Vegas' MGM Grand will go a long way to proving he is "the guy" now. He added: "I expect for me to show that I'm just levels above him. Loma was the guy that was number one pound for pound guy at one point, but now, you know, it's time for me to show the world that I'm the guy now."
Haney continued to say it's a fight he has been keen to make for a number of years and feels his Ukrainian counterpart, 35, made a huge mistake in waiting this long to face him. "I've gotten so much better [over the years]," he continued. "I've got much bigger, much more mature, much faster, stronger. My experience has gone through the roof and, more importantly, I'm the guy with the belts now. So my confidence is just through the roof."
While he acknowledged Lomachenko is a very technical fighter, Haney insists the veteran's southpaw stance won't cause him issues and believes it will in fact be the challenger who will be forced to change his style on the night. "I don't think it'll be a problem [his stance]," he said. "We've been training for a southpaw for months now. I started camp a little earlier to prepare, but I've got a lot of experience. I will show the world how I can beat a southpaw. There are many different ways to beat a southpaw but I'll do it a little different."
Haney continued: "He's had trouble in the past with guys who do the things that I do in the ring. In his last fight he struggled with Jamaine Ortiz and the things he has trouble with are my best attributes." He added that while the pre-fight conversation has been respectful so far, he doesn't care for his opponent and insists he is ready to make the bout "as easy as possible".
While he stopped short of looking passed his upcoming battle - calling it "definitely by far my biggest fight to date" - he said an impressive win will send a huge message to all the other fighters in his division, including Gervonta Davis. When asked for his opinion on his American rival's latest victory against Ryan Garcia, The Dream said Tank "went in there and did what he was supposed to do". But Haney was also quick to state he thought Garcia simply "didn't understand the levels" that were going to be on show.
"Once he realised that Tank was levels above him, you know, he decided he didn't want to be in there anymore," he critiqued before refusing to rule out a potential future bout with either pugilist, saying he is keen on "legacy fights". You never know what the future holds," he admitted. "But, as of right now, I'm focusing on Loma and then we will go from there."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...ea6d7640&ei=19
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I quite like Haney, he was always my favourite of the four guys (Haney, Lopez, Garcia and Davis) who were up and comer seat the same same weight but I Hope lomachenko wins this one, Haney can come back from a loss here but it'd be the end for the little Ukrainian, I hope Loma pulls it of somehow, o think the size difference is going to be too much in the end and Haney wins it and that'll be great for him, he seems like a good lad.
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Not a fight I am looking forward to in the sport more than this one. A legend achieves his lifetime ambition or a young gun ready to take on any and all comers asserts that he is number 1. Either way we are winners
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I am hyped up for this fight as well and been watching all the build up TV programmes for it. I want Loma to win but like Haney too as he comes across well.
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I'm thrilled for this fight
Both P4P level fighters
The undisputed championship on the line
A fight for hardcore boxing fans
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So much is being made of size difference understandably. Both are clearly facing different directions with point in careers. But I cannot get away from a big picture, just don't know the actual depth of Haney based on a George Kambosos. Just how aggressive is Haney going to level up and commit to some power work. It'll take it to neutralize the tighter quicker footwork of Loma up close. I think Lomas best chance is using that squat stance and can actually get a lot done on the inside. Can't see this being a jousting contest. Whole different fight if Haney commits to getting physical, shoulder blocks twist clinching etc. That's the size difference..
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Spicoli
So much is being made of size difference understandably. Both are clearly facing different directions with point in careers. But I cannot get away from a big picture, just don't know the actual depth of Haney based on a George Kambosos. Just how aggressive is Haney going to level up and commit to some power work. It'll take it to neutralize the tighter quicker footwork of Loma up close. I think Lomas best chance is using that squat stance and can actually get a lot done on the inside. Can't see this being a jousting contest. Whole different fight if Haney commits to getting physical, shoulder blocks twist clinching etc. That's the size difference..
For me it’s all about if Haney can force Loma to keep resetting. I don’t think anyone in the sport uses more false steps than Loma. I’m watching Loma vs Campbell right now and just out of curiosity I counted his cross steps in the 5th round. 35! That’s 35 occasions which he can’t attack and can be forced to reset. That isn’t even considering how often he rhythm steps, which is even more often. If Haney can keep him resetting on all his false steps the fight is easy. But does Haney have that much skill? He has the speed of hand and foot, so it’s really just a question of skill. They were really smart about generally putting Loma against guys with slow feet to exaggerate Loma. (I don’t say this to bash, just more as a matter of fact. It’s 78 degrees outside and they matched Loma well,,,,, while hard) I have my doubts about Haney but Saturday night he could lift a lot of them.
Edit-and the size, Loma fought Campbell, bigger, Nakatani, bigger, Lopez, bigger. Never mentioned it before, it’s a bad look to mention it now
Edit 2-I think Loma has gotten away with many bad habits by being so damn good. You would never teach someone to fight like Ali, or Roy Jones, the greats get away with doing the wrong things. Switched up to Loma vs Teo, still the same thing, loads of false steps. He takes less false steps when he gets aggressive but he can be taken out of his aggression if he’s uncomfortable preparing for it. Drop the hammer when his feet are wrong, it’s often
Into 3rd round of Teo/Loma and Loma just rhythm stepped and Teo charged getting off a combination. Teo saw it, and again Loma rhythm stepped at the ropes and Teo got off a combination.
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Spicoli
So much is being made of size difference understandably. Both are clearly facing different directions with point in careers. But I cannot get away from a big picture, just don't know the actual depth of Haney based on a George Kambosos. Just how aggressive is Haney going to level up and commit to some power work. It'll take it to neutralize the tighter quicker footwork of Loma up close. I think Lomas best chance is using that squat stance and can actually get a lot done on the inside. Can't see this being a jousting contest. Whole different fight if Haney commits to getting physical, shoulder blocks twist clinching etc. That's the size difference..
For me it’s all about if Haney can force Loma to keep resetting. I don’t think anyone in the sport uses more false steps than Loma. I’m watching Loma vs Campbell right now and just out of curiosity I counted his cross steps in the 5th round. 35! That’s 35 occasions which he can’t attack and can be forced to reset. That isn’t even considering how often he rhythm steps, which is even more often. If Haney can keep him resetting on all his false steps the fight is easy. But does Haney have that much skill? He has the speed of hand and foot, so it’s really just a question of skill. They were really smart about generally putting Loma against guys with slow feet to exaggerate Loma. (I don’t say this to bash, just more as a matter of fact. It’s 78 degrees outside and they matched Loma well,,,,, while hard) I have my doubts about Haney but Saturday night he could lift a lot of them.
Edit-and the size, Loma fought Campbell, bigger, Nakatani, bigger, Lopez, bigger. Never mentioned it before, it’s a bad look to mention it now
Seems to be the immediate go-to for many picking Haney. Bigger is great. But what are you doing with and it effects both he and Loma down the stretch. To keep Loma resetting...who's mentality/ aggression is also up for question if we recap the early Teo rounds...think he's going need to play the pressure. Love to see that switch rather than jabbing down the middle too often. Loma does get too cute, gets happy feet operating angles and spinning out. Basically I think if Haney can be the bully..fight his size..he makes it much easier. At some point Loma just looks to wrap around guys inside like a Boa constrictor. Haney pushes him on his heels Loma is in deep. Warmed to this fight really. Never been big on either one as a fan but let's have at it.
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Black fighters are cleaning house.
First Tank squashed Ryan Garcia. Now another hyped up white fighter in Loma is gonna get beat and what will make this even better is that Loma will get schooled at his own game. Haney will out box him and make it look easy. I love it.
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Denilson3.0
Black fighters are cleaning house.
First Tank squashed Ryan Garcia. Now another hyped up white fighter in Loma is gonna get beat and what will make this even better is that Loma will get schooled at his own game. Haney will out box him and make it look easy. I love it.
I don’t even reckon you’re black? I reckon you’re like Ali G. (Is it cos I is Black?)
The reason I say this is because you are clearly on a wind up trying to trigger other posters. Still , keep up the good work.
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This might be of interest. James is a friend of mine.
https://www.youtube.com/live/MInHf8lIsrI?feature=share
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greynotsoold
Is this local where you're at? Have to give it a listen on a half day. I look back and regret not dedicating more time to 'live' content of some sort. Shit I still have an 800+ tape collection to covert :p. Basically, following-using technology to delve deeper into the sport ;D. I remember years ago Memphis bringing up the idea of a podcast every so often but not sure anything came of it. But helluva good idea. The time and some expenses are the problem. And the damn endless job we all work ;D.
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Primo Carnera
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Denilson3.0
Black fighters are cleaning house.
First Tank squashed Ryan Garcia. Now another hyped up white fighter in Loma is gonna get beat and what will make this even better is that Loma will get schooled at his own game. Haney will out box him and make it look easy. I love it.
I don’t even reckon you’re black? I reckon you’re like Ali G. (Is it cos I is Black?)
The reason I say this is because you are clearly on a wind up trying to trigger other posters. Still , keep up the good work.
No way a non-black carries that torch for years (through different alts) about how everything in the universe is racist toward blacks and about white supremacy.
No way a non-black wakes up in the morning... someone says "Good morning"... and he finds a racist angle to it.
No way.
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greynotsoold
Is this local where you're at? Have to give it a listen on a half day. I look back and regret not dedicating more time to 'live' content of some sort. Shit I still have an 800+ tape collection to covert :p. Basically, following-using technology to delve deeper into the sport ;D. I remember years ago Memphis bringing up the idea of a podcast every so often but not sure anything came of it. But helluva good idea. The time and some expenses are the problem. And the damn endless job we all work ;D.
Yeah it's very long... but interesting. Couldn't listen to the whole thing... but enjoyed what I heard. Liked the talk on fighter development, complete with fundamentals, versus today's penchant for "fast-tracking" fighters to the top. Agree a thousand percent. Also the discussion on the Romero-Barroso fight. I know Gogue was giving Weeks the benefit of the doubt... but he's definitely in a very small minority. Again, I didn't watch the fight... but saw highlights, a video of the ending, and followed the action on a live RBR.
Love how they dumped on the "for-sure" coming PPV clash between Romero and Pauper Garcia. They made it abundantly clear that this whole business smells like month-old fish.
Boxing is suffering immensely. Garcia got schooled and knocked out by Tank... but still retains his groupie following and Instagram fans. Romero was gifted a shady stoppage win over Barroso. All this shit seems weirdly preordained.
Sad.
Then they moved on to the upcoming fight between Haney and Loma. We're all looking forward to that one.
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Denilson3.0
Black fighters are cleaning house.
First Tank squashed Ryan Garcia. Now another hyped up white fighter in Loma is gonna get beat and what will make this even better is that Loma will get schooled at his own game. Haney will out box him and make it look easy. I love it.
I don’t even reckon you’re black? I reckon you’re like Ali G. (Is it cos I is Black?)
The reason I say this is because you are clearly on a wind up trying to trigger other posters. Still , keep up the good work.
Dude. I used to go on zoom calls with NoSavingBell. In fact if he saves his zoom call then you can clearly see that I'm black. As to this fight, I actually think it's 50/50 fight but gun to my head ? I think Haney will win but Loma will be the moral victor.
I can just see Haney, building up a lead and then running from Loma and stinking the place out with the crowd booing him and if he does that (and I think he will) then that'll b terrible look for Haney to be scared to go toe to toe with a guy your bigger and younger than.
But if Loma can consistently get under Haney's jab past, get close to him and turn it into a dog fight ? I would not be suprised at all if he wins.
Haney wants to be the next Floyd but he HAS TO remember (and a lotta ppl forget) that Floyd was a fkin KILLER in the ring in his 20's when he was Devin's age. He was sending guys to hosipital (Gatti, Corales etc). Most ppl only really remember Floyd's "Money Mayweather" days when he started to get older in his 30's, so was happy to cruise to UD victories
