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PBF seemed to have gotten stronger as the fight went on, although part of that is b/c he slowed Zab down a bit with his great body work all night. Who besides maybe Trinidad and Pacquiao has stamina than this guy? I remember he said he sometimes runs 5 or 6 miles a day in training. Last night it showed.
If Judah wasnt gassed, maybe its a different result. Its certainly closer.
Ricky Hatton and Antonio Margarito. Next question. :)
Sam Soliman
Hatton's an excellent answer. I forgot about him. I should've also included Mosley on that list.
Atm, it would be have to be Hatton because of his workrate. What about lamon Brewster?
Hard to tell cause some guys throw a clearly higher volume of punches than PBF and still don't lose their stamina, but I do think PBF has very very good stamina, for one thing he's very relaxed and relaxed fighters don't seem to burn as much energy as really tense guys
SAM SOLIMAN!! PBF is 140 to 47 Soliman is 160 to 175. Soliman has better stamina.
diaz looked REAL good in the stamina department yesterday
And how could I forget Kassim Ouma?
And Diaz looked so good partly b/c Cotto hits like a girl.
i mean he was able to just keep throwing punches, in mass quantities
Margarito, Hatton, Calzaghe, Pacquiao.
Alot of the fighters mentioned are all close together. Floyd don't stand above anyone. But, I do know that Floyd spars 15-20 rounds, rotating sparring partners. He may not have the most stamina, but he trains like the old fighters, preparing for 15 rnds.
Nobody... even Hatton.. PBF never gets tired, and he trains harder than Hatton... there is no proof Hatton is in better shape than Floyd.
Hatton is relentless, he keeps throwing punches and keeps coming forward....Mayweather on the other hand is not as aggressive and tends to take his time for openings and counters.
IMO, its definetly Hatton
Thats his style... Hatton doesn't have the speed to be a straight counter puncher... Have you seen Floyd do heavy bag? He can go up to half an hour going hard on the heavybag without a break or spar 15 minute rounds... Or have 17 5minute rounds in sparring with fresh opponents comming in.
That's because Hatton is not as accurate as Floyd, and can't counter like Floyd can. Hatton doesn't posess the raw boxing skills, or reflexes that Floyd has. Hatton might beat Floyd, but he has to be agressive, and relentless, or he wouldn't be half the fighter he is. Honestly tell me that Hatton could sit back and box, and still be undefeated. That's his style. And, Floyd is in just as good of shape, probably better. And when they fight, Floyd won't tire.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
i think he would tire, not cuz he isnt in shape, cuz hatton is a FUCKING MACHINE and he is gonna be taking massive amounts of body blows, winnings or not
Antonio vs. Mayweather, who will win?
I agree that is one way the fight could go.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
But, on the other hand, Floyd can hit first, then angle, or get on his wheels and move. Floyd has better "D" than Tszyu, and is younger. After 8 rounds of not being able to slow Floyd down, and getting tagged, what would Hatton do then?
Floyd. I'm a Floyd fan, but I love fighters who bang. I really like Tony, but think that Floyd is a style mismatch for him. Alot of people will say that pressure will give Floyd trouble, it may. But Tony is not fast enough on his feet to keep Floyd cornered. Tony is long, which creates alot of target area. Tony can definately hurt Floyd, but can he do it before Floyd lands too many? I have no doubt that Tony can take Floyd's punches, but how many before he lands his own? Tony will get hit alot, if he doesn't take Floyd out in four.Quote:
Originally Posted by neverscared
IT used to be trinidad but know I can say that is HAtton and PAc
Best stamina has to be someone like Sam Soliman who can even still throw 100 punches a round in 90+ degree weather. WHILE taking bocy punches
Hatton but especially Margarito, you want dedicaton to training, he train all year, fight or not and he throws pucnhes for 15 min rounds!! That is ridiculous!
AHHHH FOR GODS SAKE, ARE YOU BLOKES BLOODY BLIND? You all commenting on hatton and shit.....well starr has said a whopping THREE times SAM SOLIMAN. None of you have commented on him yet. The guy threw over 1000 punches against wright and you cant even consider him?
Sam Soliman doens't have Mayweather's stamina IMO he didn't throw hard punches at all against Winky... He was just throwing punches for pressure not even trying to make an effort on landing them... Mayweather has never really been tired in a fight even when he has been pressured for the whole fight, and is weight drained like against Chavez. Nobody trains harder or is in better shape than Floyd... don't go by his punch numbers because thats NOT HIS STYLE to throw a 100+ punches a round, but he could easily for over 12 rounds... Look at what he does in training camp and the only people who come remotely close IMO are Castillo, Corrales, and maybe Calzaghe who could all throw over 1000 punches HARD.
Not disrespect intended, but your statement is a little silly. Mayweather does not train like he is preparing for a 15 round fight, that would be pointless and potentially costly to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
The training and tactics used for 15 round fights are a lot different than for a 12 round fight. If Mayweather was capable of performing another three rounds at the level he was showing for the 12 rounds against Judah, then he needs to question his inept trainer. ;)
it doesn't matter PBF is in great shape, so is hatton, so is pacman, so is winky, and so was prime rjj...but SAM SOLIMAN threw 1200 punches against winky...and does that kind of shat all the time...i don't care how hard they were..winky is 160pounds...those who actually box know that even that would be difficult on a hundred pound heavy without someone hitting you...that is ridiculous....i have run the mile 4:02 and 14:52 for 5k..and even i take my hat off the SAM as the endurance beast of boxing...
good point, i can't believe i forgot Manny Pacquioa...
That guy can throw punches all night long, while getting hit too
THANK U!!!!! I KEPT READING AND NO ONE SAID CALZAGE TIL THIS POINT.... I THINK THE SHOWING CALZAGHE HAD AGAINST LACY WAS ONE OF THE BEST STAMINA SHOWINGS I'VE EVER SEEN...Quote:
Originally Posted by enigma