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Ooh it's happening?... I like it, winning all four belts is sort of really pointless but it's still a logistical nightmare for the boxers so I'll always support boxers going for it and say it's a very good achievement..... Obviously beating mayweather or any atg would have been better for alvarez.... But well done to the unified champ in November... And even though many dislike alvarez (I'm a fan btw) I think we must say we'll done to him/his team for getting the fights made.
Thought this was about AJ v Fury, we need an undisputed heavyweight champion.
Manny Pacquiaio doesn’t exist
ONE KING Canelo Alvarez announces next fight will be undisputed title bout against unbeaten American Caleb Plant with Las Vegas set to hold November date
Canelo Alvarez has officially announced he will fight Caleb Plant for the undisputed WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO super-middleweight world titles.
Mexico’s pound-for-pound king has run through the super-middleweight division like a steam train since returning to 168lbs in December 2020 and now faces the unbeaten American in Las Vegas on 6 November.
Canelo dominated Callum Smith to take his WBA title and win the vacant WBC.
He then battered overmatched mandatory Avni Yildirim in February and stopped Billy Joe Saunders by breaking his eye socket in May.
With the Saunders win, Canelo became a three-belt WBA, WBC and WBO champion, needing just the IBF to be fully undisputed.
Step forward current champion Plant.
The pair originally entered talks for a fight on September 18, however these discussions broke down.
Canelo considered facing Dmitry Bivol at light-heavyweight instead, but ultimately opted to delay his next fight and make a fresh attempt with Plant.
He confirmed on Thursday night that this has been successful and the pair will meet on November 6 in Las Vegas.
Canelo reacted by telling Ring Magazine: “I’m very excited about this and about becoming the first undisputed Latino super-middleweight champion in boxing history.
“I’m happy to make history. I’m going to unify all of the belts.”
On Instagram, he simply told his millions of followers: “We’ll put Mexican boxing on top. Let’s go for the missing belt!”
Due to his free agent status, the 31-year-old has been able to compete on whichever network he chooses since his release from Golden Boy last year.
Canelo has worked with Eddie Hearn on DAZN for the Smith, Yildirim and Saunders fights.
Now he will jump over and work with Al Haymon’s PBC on FOX PPV to face Plant.
The unbeaten American has a record of 21-0 (12 KOs).
He became world champion with an impressive dethroning of Jose Uzcategui in January 2019.
Plant has since made three successful defences, but not competed anywhere close to Canelo’s level thus far.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/9...d-caleb-plant/
you can post an article about that fight when it's signedQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ah bollocks it's a ppv.... Well I'll fork out for it, I was hoping it'd be on dazn but wotever... I hope alvarez zaps him then moves back to dazn to take on bivol who is also a bad match up for him but alvarez has taken on these fights before.
Alvarez is gonna destroy Plant.
Plants a solid boxer. Good story keeps it lowkey and knows who he is. But he's never come close to facing this level and just doesn't have the pop or fire between the ears to push back on the ginger wrecking ball coming for him. But good on the total division unification. Sweep all those trinkets into a dust pan.
Or this ;DQuote:
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I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Let’s talk about Caleb Plant best win..
do think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
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Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
To be fair if alvarez blows out plant then you just have to say well done to him. Alvarez will have defeated three undefeated super middleweight Champs :S. That's pretty good...
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Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
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Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
just asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
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Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
i never said all of canelo's opponents were good. you never said anything about his last five opponents. you said bjs was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents. that is an untrue & stupid statementQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
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Originally Posted by TICi never said all of canelo's opponents were good. you never said anything about his last five opponents. you said bjs was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents. that is an untrue & stupid statementQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
you have any proof that it is an untrue and stupid statement?
yes because floyd & gennady are not forgettable opponentsQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICi never said all of canelo's opponents were good. you never said anything about his last five opponents. you said bjs was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents. that is an untrue & stupid statementQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
you have any proof that it is an untrue and stupid statement?
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Originally Posted by TICyes because floyd & gennady are not forgettable opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICi never said all of canelo's opponents were good. you never said anything about his last five opponents. you said bjs was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents. that is an untrue & stupid statementQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
you have any proof that it is an untrue and stupid statement?
five is my definition of a conga line
floyd isn't in the last five
end of discussion
well... only to add that don't mention floyd unless you want to go into one of floyd's easiest wins almost ruined by a bought and/or blind, corrupt judge
you never mentioned anything about a five person conga line originally. only after it was questioned. even callum & danny are not forgettable opponentsQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICyes because floyd & gennady are not forgettable opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICi never said all of canelo's opponents were good. you never said anything about his last five opponents. you said bjs was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents. that is an untrue & stupid statementQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
you have any proof that it is an untrue and stupid statement?
five is my definition of a conga line
floyd isn't in the last five
end of discussion
well... only to add that don't mention floyd unless you want to go into one of floyd's easiest wins almost ruined by a bought and/or blind, corrupt judge
Tic believes Canelo is the best, allow him to stick to his belief.
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Originally Posted by TICyes because floyd & gennady are not forgettable opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICi never said all of canelo's opponents were good. you never said anything about his last five opponents. you said bjs was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents. that is an untrue & stupid statementQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
you have any proof that it is an untrue and stupid statement?
five is my definition of a conga line
floyd isn't in the last five
end of discussion
well... only to add that don't mention floyd unless you want to go into one of floyd's easiest wins almost ruined by a bought and/or blind, corrupt judge
that's pretty damn lame even for you
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Tic also doesn't believe COVID exists, so that pretty much puts some perspective on things.
why would the truth be lame? you are only try to add context now because i pointed out how stupid the original statement wasQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICyou never mentioned anything about a five person conga line originally.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyes because floyd & gennady are not forgettable opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICi never said all of canelo's opponents were good. you never said anything about his last five opponents. you said bjs was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents. that is an untrue & stupid statementQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICjust asking regarding four belt unified runs. i don't think it's as strong as bernard, oleksandr or josh but better than buds. canelo fought guys like callum, danny, gennady etc before billy joe. even floyd was before billy joe. forgettable opponents?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICdo think canelo's unifications fights are better than buds at super light?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOr this ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
I'm glad we're all in agreement.
Sort of takes the shine off of it. ;)
Not talking about Bud. Just saying that Canelo beating Plant is a foregone conclusion because Plant is a relative nobody. BJS was a pretty good win... but before that was a conga line of forgettable opponents.
When Canelo beats Plant it'll be akin to the sun rising tomorrow. No big deal.
Noticed you skipped over Yildirim and Rocky... but that's ok. ;)
Let's see... last five opponents before BJS:
Yildirim ("forgettable" would be an upgrade)
Callum (not Canelo's fault... but timidly fought the worst fight of his professional career. Frankly... looked like shit).
Kovalev (damaged, exposed, Bambi-like Kovalev. Cherry-picked by Canelo after Ward exposed him).
Jacobs (aside from BJS... the only good opponent)
Fielding (see: Yildirim. Also, cherry-picked for the trinket).
you have any proof that it is an untrue and stupid statement?
five is my definition of a conga line
floyd isn't in the last five
end of discussion
well... only to add that don't mention floyd unless you want to go into one of floyd's easiest wins almost ruined by a bought and/or blind, corrupt judge
that's pretty damn lame even for you
haven't you got more articles to post?Quote:
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it's your belief to prove is true. i'm not the one saying there is a virus that can be caught from outside the body, through the air or off surfaces. that is a belief that people are presenting to me & needs to be proven to be trueQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Tic also doesn't believe COVID exists, so that pretty much puts some perspective on things.
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Back on topic. I think we're all in agreement that this fight is a foregone conclusion. Trinkets... dust pans. That pretty much covers it.
in the four belt era it is still quite rare so it's ok. everyone seems to be available to fight canelo, artur & dmitry for example but not to fight each otherQuote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
Back on topic. I think we're all in agreement that this fight is a foregone conclusion. Trinkets... dust pans. That pretty much covers it.
Caleb Plant savages Canelo Alvarez and his trainer Eddy Reynoso after gymmate Oscar Valdez is cleared to fight despite testing positive for phentermine
Caleb Plant has ripped into Canelo Alvarez and his trainer Eddy Reynoso after gymmate Oscar Valdez was cleared to fight despite a positive drugs test.
It was revealed earlier this week that the WBC super-featherweight champion tested positive for phentermine – a central-nervous stimulant.
His team have insisted that the Mexican did not knowingly ingest the substance ahead of his defence against Robson Conceicao on September 10 and claim to believe it came from “an herbal tea”.
Phentermine is on the VADA banned list, but VADA merely collect the samples and report test results. They do not enforce rulings, this is the job of the various boxing commissions.
Some commissions adhere to the VADA banned list when ruling on such matters, but others follow the WADA code.
Under the WADA code, phentermine is only banned ‘in competition’ – and the ‘in competition’ period only begins on fight day itself.
As such, the local commission in this instance have cleared Valdez to fight regardless of the positive test.
Valdez achieved a career-best win back in February as he knocked out long-reigning champion Miguel Berchelt to become a two-weight king.
Now, some boxers across the sport are not only raising questions about him, but his camp, too.
Valdez is part of Reynoso’s ‘Canelo Team’ – widely considered one of the greatest stables in boxing today.
Reynoso is thought to be the frontrunner for Trainer of the Year in 2021 having not only guided Valdez to a stunning win, but also trained Ryan Garcia, Andy Ruiz Jr and boxing’s pound-for-pound king Canelo himself.
Back in 2018, Canelo received a six-month ban after testing positive for clenbuterol and had to postpone his rematch with Gennady Golovkin as a result.
He always insisted this test result was due to contaminated meat in Mexico.
In 2019, WBC flyweight champion Julio Cesar Martinez, also part of Reynoso’s gym, tested positive for clenbuterol as well.
However, WADA (World Anti-Doping Association) recognised the issue in Mexico and so raised the allowable threshold, meaning Martinez was not punished.
The WBC subsequently put out a statement insisting that this was “confirmation of the innocence” of Canelo.
Regardless, in some quarters the damage was already done in terms of the reputation of Reynoso’s gym.
Now, two years later, the situation with Valdez has reignited such talk.
Caleb Plant is set to face Canelo in a career-defining undisputed title fight.
The American IBF super-middleweight champion went on a rant after seeing the news about Valdez being cleared to fight.
Plant began: “Damn shame. Some people want to be great so bad that they cheat and then there’s people who want to be GREAT so bad that they DON’T. Doing that isn’t confidence, it’s FEAR!
“Na, Eddy Reynoso and Canelo deserve ‘BITCH of the Year’!
“All of them are suspect. Everything out of that camp is intentional.
“They have the knowledge and experience to know better and the resources to have the best of the best in whatever they want but [taco emoji] or [meat emoji] or some [herbal tea emoji] is the reason.
“Nobody puts ANYTHING in MY BODY without me getting it approved first by VADA (whose the strictest testing company) at this level.
“And with everything that’s at risk, why would I let somebody else play with MY name.
“So after everything a fighter works for and sacrifices you’re just going to let someone tell you to take something and you’re just going to take it and not even be concerned that they may be FLUSHING all you’ve accomplished down the drain.
“Because at the end of the day has a name even been mentioned of who might of gave him the “herbal tea”??? NOPE!
“The only name that’s came out is the one who took it so why let someone put you in that position.
“If you really start asking yourself these questions and really start unpackaging all this question by question does it really add up?
“Does it really may sense? F*** NO. This sport has no place for cheaters.
“You mean to tell me you have made over a $100million and live in San Diego, but you ate some tacos or a steak at some random ass taco stand in Mexico or some random ass steak and just doing that once made your levels THAT HIGH?
“Get the f*** outta here. People don’t take this stuff out of confidence, they take it out of FEAR!
“They don’t wanna let their NUTS HANG so they take s*** that’ll make them shrink.
“I said what I said and I stand by it so f*** whoever don’t like it. The people INNNNN the sport know what’s up, but the ones who don’t speak up are the same ones who cheat just like them.
“It almost seems frowned upon to even speak up on this stuff in boxing but I don’t give a f***.
“There’s a whole other world out there when it comes to banned substances that people in the fight game don’t wanna speak up about but I could care less. There’s no room it.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/9...z-phentermine/
Caleb is 100% correct in his rant. The whole thing is a joke. The WBC blatantly protects Mexican fighters against doping allegations, and everyone knows that. Which is why I've referred to it as the "Mexican Mafia", although some object to that.
LOL... and good on Plant for calling Canelo and Reynoso "BITCH of the Year", although he stands no chance in this fight which still remains a foregone conclusion.
All Caleb's accomplishing in the end is adding some morbid interest in a fight that has always been a foregone conclusion.... thus benefiting Canelo by making his assured victory bigger than it really is.
caleb is going to get hurt
Caleb Plant brings Andre Ward into camp to help train for Canelo Alvarez, with recently retired legend providing advice ahead of undisputed showdown
Caleb Plant has enlisted boxing legend Andre Ward and trainer Virgil Hunter to join his camp ahead of his fight with Canelo Alvarez on November 6.
America’s IBF super-middleweight world champion is set for a career-defining showdown against the Mexican superstar, who holds the WBA, WBC and WBO belts.
The winner will be crowned as the first four-belt undisputed super-middleweight champion in history.
Canelo is widely considered boxing’s pound-for-pound king – a position he seized not long after Ward’s retirement in 2017.
As such, he is a big favourite in the contest with many pointing out Plant’s lack of experience against world level opposition, let alone against elite level fighters like Canelo.
Now though, the American has seemingly brought in a source of experience to bolster his gym.
Plant posted a series of images which showed him working with Ward and Hunter over the weekend.
He is yet to comment on the specifics of this newfound relationship or clarify how it affects his original training team.
Regardless, even if this is just a temporary link-up it could bolster Plant significantly as he heads into the fight of his life.
Ward, who was trained by Hunter himself, is a former unified super-middleweight and light-heavyweight world champion.
He retired undefeated at 32-0 in 2017 having beaten Sergey Kovalev, Carl Froch, Mikkel Kessler and many more.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/9...anelo-alvarez/
No matter. Anything other than a one-sided beatdown of Plant will be a significant UNDERachievement for Canelo.
Plant is a notch above Yildirim.
A small notch.
For all the fighters Ward chose to back and against of all opposition, I have to give at least slight consideration that there is a fighter who can exploit Canelo's game. and it may not be the fighter we thing is capable- usually a high profile name.
Also Ellerbe seeming to think so- not claiming he is better, but I like how he put it. Stated he has all the wrong things to offer Canelo.
https://youtu.be/fggt6jU8Zwo
Neither has persuaded me, but they have me intrigued!
They're playing into Canelo's hands. When the inevitable beating occurs, Canelo will get more credit than he's due... thanks to 1. Caleb's trash talking about Team Canelo doping, and 2. having Ward in his corner (like that's gonna do anything). It's not like Ward himself is stepping into the ring to fight Canelo. That didn't happen, much to Canelo's benefit. Else he'd have another "L" on his record.
True that Ward isn't stepping in the ring however he knows this fight will dictate if anyone else will seek his help. I remember Jean Pascal seeking the help of an ex champion- namely RJJ. Your take on Ward helping is how I felt with RJJ. Couldnt figure out why a potshotter whose reflexes dictated his wins would be proof he could teach someone how to box...that had been boxing already.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
With Ward I gotta think he will employ some mind games in that ring. knowing when to hit, when to hold, how to frustrate. So yeah I am playing into the hands as well!
Canelo is a damn good fighter with few holes, nevertheless he has flaws. Only the elite can execute such a gameplan. I have nothing to go on that Caleb is the one, I am just acknowledging 2 insiders that have no qualms on stating- this aint the guy! Plant is being looked at as an easy win, maybe Canelo wins but struggles in doing so?
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Originally Posted by SlimTraeTrue that Ward isn't stepping in the ring however he knows this fight will dictate if anyone else will seek his help. I remember Jean Pascal seeking the help of an ex champion- namely RJJ. Your take on Ward helping is how I felt with RJJ. Couldnt figure out why a potshotter whose reflexes dictated his wins would be proof he could teach someone how to box...that had been boxing already.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
With Ward I gotta think he will employ some mind games in that ring. knowing when to hit, when to hold, how to frustrate. So yeah I am playing into the hands as well!
Canelo is a damn good fighter with few holes, nevertheless he has flaws. Only the elite can execute such a gameplan. I have nothing to go on that Caleb is the one, I am just acknowledging 2 insiders that have no qualms on stating- this aint the guy! Plant is being looked at as an easy win, maybe Canelo wins but struggles in doing so?
Oh I think Ward could very well teach Caleb a few things. I just don't think it's gonna overcome the vast advantages that Canelo has. All that's being accomplished by Caleb's doping trash-talking (true as it may be), and now turning to Ward for advice... is that Canelo's win will be looked at as something more than it really is. Canelo fights few, if any, opponents that represent a true danger and where the outcome is truly up in the air. It's taken the fun out of boxing. Caleb Plant is, frankly... a relative nobody. Unfortunately, the talent pool at 168 is woefully poor... and the few fighters who might represent a danger to Canelo... Canelo won't be facing any time soon. I'm just making sure I'm on record that Canelo's win over Plant is a foregone conclusion. Just like it was with Yildirim. This isn't boxing. It's the coronation of a diva.
Great bit of action overnight. Apparently Canelo, who's every second word in English is motherfucker, becomes incensed when you say it to him!! You don't talk about my momma (cue Bobby Boucher joke) So he gave Plant a shove. Plant had a swipe at Canelo, Canelo had a swipe back and Plant got a cut eye. Apparently nothing serious so no threat to the fight.
That wasn't the best part. The best part was Plant blasting Canelo and every mother fucker around him about drugs. It needed saying and needs saying repeatedly, Plant said it to their faces.