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Saw it at the cinema last week.
How did you feel about the ending. I was fucking fuming.
You don’t do that. You just don’t….
Yes it fit with the film as a stand alone but not the franchise
No time for riddles, please tell me how'd it end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I agree. Gotta wonder how they plan to proceed. The signature line "Bond... James Bond" needs to continue.
They ran out of Fleming Bond books a long time ago so the series or 'franchise' has no option but to go somewhere else. Having a black female 007 appear in this one I think is an indication that all bets are off and to expect the unexpected.Quote:
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Maybe it would make sense to go full retro and recreate one of the earlier films and keep it set back in the time they were written. That if handled properly by the right director could be great.
I think it is a fitting end to a great Bond. They gave Craig some funny lines like Moore had, the car/bike chase was class and there were nods to Connery even. The nemesis didn't have enough screen time and the balance of acts was not quite right but I enjoyed it for what it is.
If Bond survives it limits them in future. 007 gives them free reign.
I'm sorry but after 59 years you don't do that you just don't. Yes if the franchise is coming to an end fine but at the end of the credits you get "James Bond Will Return" not 007 will return.
How exactly ?
I'm not buying into an alternative dimension and all that bollox. Bond is a British secret agent and must remain so.
Maybe they'll go back and remake a few of the classics - to be fair films get remade which are a lot more recent than that - but as official films that wouldn't quite work for me as you like some continuity like it's always worked before adapting to the modern world. But you can't do that now so what's their plan ?
Sean, Roger and Timothy would have got off that island ! Hell even George and Pierce might have !
There's an unwritten rule with JB and they fucking broke it
The franchise has moved seamlessly from one Bond to another through seven actors. You've had a Scot, English, Irish actors, with even an Australian wedged in there somewhere.
James Bond has been dark-haired and suave... but has also been blonde and brawny.
Why the sudden need to kill him off? For the sake of inclusivity??
Damn... this is just another example where people can't leave well enough alone. Just like Brosnan gave way to Craig... so could someone else stepped into the role after Craig.
Been thinking about this and agree - though at the same time it would be admitting "ermmm we've killed him off and no idea how to progress the character now - maybe we fucked up..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Imagine 'Live and let die' with Idris Elba as Bond, a white Voodoo guy and a Tarantino like soundtrack.. Ha! 'Moonraker' with better fx, imagine 'Goldfinger' set in 1964 with The Kinks, The Stones, Etc and other songs from that year. It could work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKOBeen thinking about this and agree - though at the same time it would be admitting "ermmm we've killed him off and no idea how to progress the character now - maybe we fucked up..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Or it could be a shiteshow like 'The Italian Job' remake.
Goldfinger was the one that sprung to mind but its status as probably the best Bond film means they likely dare not touch it.
Refused to watch Italian job remake....
Craig played the part much longer than any other Bond and I think it was just a way of putting a full stop on that. I didn't stay until the end of the credits and so did not see the 'James Bond will return' at the end. Amazon have now bought MGM and it will be tricky for them to get it right casting wise. Whoever they choose they will be slagged off for getting it wrong.
I don't think you need to have a woman, like Craig says just write better other parts for women and if it is going to remain 'James Bond' rather than 007, it should be a bloke. I also think it should be a Brit, black, white, mixed race whatever going forward. He is an invention of Flemming that bares little resembalance to an M16 officer (they don't have agents) and so there is a lot of leeway there but he needs to be able to get the right mix of action and acting chops, and i think, humour. Moore really camped it up a bit, but even Connery always had good delivery of the funny lines and that needs to be a part, even if only a small part. It is a very stylized series and it is great that they have been so adamant in keeping the brilliant title sequences and pretty consistent classy opening theme songs. Has to be among the most quality franchise series out there and it must be quite daunting thinking how to maintain that moving forward.
Not a huge Dr Who fan , although i did like Tom Baker, probably becasue he was who i grew up watching a bit like Moore for Bond, but i can see why you can have a woman Dr Who. The problem was they choose a shite actress who couldn't pull it off and was about as unneccentric as could be. The right casting is crucial and Craig's physicality like Connery was bang on the money, and while you don't need a body builder, a wimpy skinny fella just isn't going to cut the mustard.
Agree wimpy skinny fella does not fit the bill - I'm not keen on Tom Hiddlestone or James Norton doing it for that reason.
I do think given the current climate though they will feel under pressure to opt for a non-white lead. If Craig had quit before this one I was all for Idris Elba doing it but that window of opportunity now missed I reckon as he's now too old - you ideally want someone who's going to do at least 3 if not 4 films which these days is 10 years or so.
It should be a Brit of course but after watching Extraction on Netflix I thought that Chris Hemsworth could pull it off. Can deliver the quips and bring a darker side. I would have said a straight no to him before seeing that film.
Daniel Craig has become my favourite Bond ahead of Connery who went on too long and ruined his legacy. :)
Skyfall was the best of his films and Casino Royale was a good start to his story line.
I can not watch Moore playing Bond any more after Craig, he is awful.
Preferred Dalton to Brosnan.
Jason Bourne series made the Bond franchise up their game and bring in Craig.
I do not think they can replace Daniel and must take it in a different direction. Less stoic, more of an IT nerd mixed with Ninja assassin, and hung like a porn actor.
Still not seen a Brosnan film as don't like him.
I am told if any though I should watch Goldeneye...
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I have to admit that Craig grew on me as the series moved along. At first I didn't like him, because I felt that what he had in physicality (chasing down bad guys through and over construction cranes) he lacked in that suave, debonair manner of previous Bonds.
I especially disliked when the character played by Eva Green totally fooled Bond into the whole "love" thing... and even saved his life after he got poisoned. Too vulnerable for me. The old Bonds were the "love 'em and leave 'em" type who would never get fooled by a woman. Many tried... but all failed. He was just too smooth. Smooth was never a word I could use to describe Craig's portrayal of Bond.
But hey... the films were great and action-packed. I grew to appreciate this new Bond. To me, however... Connery is still #1.