After Canelos disappointing performance against an old, inactive 40 year old, Canelo will pretend he’s injured and stay out of action until September 23.
Who should be his next x3 opponents?
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After Canelos disappointing performance against an old, inactive 40 year old, Canelo will pretend he’s injured and stay out of action until September 23.
Who should be his next x3 opponents?
Nah... he won't disappear. Too much invested in the carefully constructed myth that is Canelo. Team Ginger will surely work the computer overtime, and dredge up some "suitable", non-threatening riff-raff they can pump up as dangerous.
I think they've milked the Golovkin cow as much as they'll be able to, and will move on from that.
Plant is making noise, which is right down Team Ginger's alley. Plant doesn't have the firepower to beat Ginger... and if it goes 12 you may as well mail in the judges scorecards BEFORE the fight.
Ginger won't be going back up to 175 as long as Bivol and Beterbiev hold all the belts. One of them would have to vacate.
I guess that just leaves 168, unless he goes the circus route and fights Jake Paul.
last i heard was that canelo needed surgery on his hand, so he may well be out until september next year. if canelo is out that long the landscape could change a bit, i'd expect one seventy five to be unified in that time & possibly something like caleb & david b squaring off. if canelo is out that long would he not be given the benefit of a tune up? maybe against a lesser mandatoryQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
Wow! Talk about getting your excuses in early! ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TIClast i heard was that canelo needed surgery on his hand, so he may well be out until september next year. if canelo is out that long the landscape could change a bit, i'd expect one seventy five to be unified in that time & possibly something like caleb & david b squaring off. if canelo is out that long would he not be given the benefit of a tune up? maybe against a lesser mandatoryQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
i'm just asking a question here champ. what excuses am i making & for what? please be specificQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWow! Talk about getting your excuses in early! ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TIClast i heard was that canelo needed surgery on his hand, so he may well be out until september next year. if canelo is out that long the landscape could change a bit, i'd expect one seventy five to be unified in that time & possibly something like caleb & david b squaring off. if canelo is out that long would he not be given the benefit of a tune up? maybe against a lesser mandatoryQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
Canelo should stay at super middleweight to ensure that Beterbeiv and Bivol unify. During this time, he should take on Benavidez and Charlo which are competitive fights.
I think that Canelo is winding down. I don't think that he will fight more than 3, maybe 4 more fights. He's been a pro since 15, he has a ton of money, and he has created numerous non boxing ways of making money.
i agree, i can see canelo longing for that golf courseQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
I can't see Canelo doing anything big now at 175. Even if Zurdo upsets Bivol and Canelo suddenly decides to fight mexicans (if there's a belt :-X). Simply put he fought flat and a bit stale last two outs vs different styles and his mind sets. He had no gas to mash in the later rounds. Needs to stay put at 168 and start lining up a slow exit plan on the highest level. In an ideal world Benavidez and Plant finally make a quality fight and Canelo fights winner Benavidez...but we know that's not happening right off. Soft touch for Benavidez next out and same for Canelo coming off surgery next spring.
CANELO ALVAREZ showed off the aftermath of his left hand surgery following victory over Gennady Golovkin.
The Mexican superstar revealed his hand was so damaged before beating Golovkin that he could not even pick up a glass.
So after beating his old rival in their September trilogy bout, Canelo went under the knife.
He showed his cast being taken off and the stitches in his hand during an Instagram video.
Canelo, 32, revealed he has suffered problems in his left hand since November 2021, when he beat Caleb Plant, 30.
And after bettering Golovkin, 40, on points the four-division champion admitted he could be out for a whole year.
He said: "It hurts everywhere. I've had these issues since the Caleb Plant fight so I was like 'it's okay, later, later'.
"And then I started [to feel] really bad, I need surgery. It was really bad, really bad. It's not broken it's a meniscus, it's a wrist injury, not broken.
"It's ligaments, like a knee injury or something like that… I'm going to take the time my body needs.
"Last year I fought four times in 11 months, so that's why. But I need to take my time a little bit, maybe May, September I need to take my time."
Canelo is eyeing a rematch with Dmitry Bivol, 31, the Russian light-heavyweight champion who beat him in May.
But Bivol first defends his WBA title against Gilberto Ramirez, 31, on Saturday in Abu Dhabi.
He told Sporting News on a rematch with Canelo: "It could happen, this fight, but it doesn't motivate me as much as it did before.
"Of course, I would take this fight if I don't have another choice. We could make this fight but it's not my priority fight now."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20295...nady-golovkin/
canelo says he might not return until next september after having his surgery, if that's the case then hopefully some of these other guys will face off against each other in the interim
it actually will free up some big annual boxing dates, interested to see what fights land on those dates next year
Beterbiev v Bivol would be a good start.Quote:
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Originally Posted by MasterBeterbiev v Bivol would be a good start.Quote:
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Canelo has no business at 175. Best he start paying attention to that other Mexican clamoring for him at 168. Oh right... Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans.
That would be easier and more realistic fights for Canelo than face the real light heavyweight champions.Quote:
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Originally Posted by MasterBeterbiev v Bivol would be a good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Canelo has no business at 175. Best he start paying attention to that other Mexican clamoring for him at 168. Oh right... Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans.
@TITO Fan is right. Canelo is irrelevant at LHW. HE is a SMW , end of.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat would be easier and more realistic fights for Canelo than face the real light heavyweight champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterBeterbiev v Bivol would be a good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Canelo has no business at 175. Best he start paying attention to that other Mexican clamoring for him at 168. Oh right... Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans.
if canelo is out that long then i'd definitely expect fights like artur v dmitry & david b v caleb to be made but with the history of good fights falling apart i won't be surprised if they don't happen
as i say that caleb says he's signed a contract to fight david b next yearQuote:
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ARTUR BETERBIEV reckons he has the beating of pound-for-pound king Canelo Alvarez.
Undisputed super-middleweight king Canelo is back in the crosshairs of the Russian following his return to the light-heavyweight division.
Canelo conceded both height and reach to Dmitry Bivol after stepping up to 175lbs back in May.
And the Mexican paid the price, losing for just the second time in his career.
Speaking before Alvarez's shock defeat, Beterbiev told SunSport: "I disagree with your assessment that he is pretty much unbeatable.
"It is not true. He lost to [Floyd] Mayweather, he had equal fights verses GGG [Gennady Golovkin].
"With that said, Canelo is undoubtedly a good fighter, he has the technique, he works nicely on the ring, and he has a good punch.
"Of course, I will do my best to beat him, because he is not unbeatable.
"His loss to Mayweather and equal fights vs. GGG is proof of that.
"I don’t consider myself worse than Mayweather or GGG as a fighter.
"So the result of our fight will show who is the best between the two of us."
Beterbiev reckons a dust-up with the Guadalajara gladiator would be a box-office smash.
He said: "I am sure that would be a mega-fight. It will be one of the huge events over the last years."
Canelo's ferocity was on full display in consecutive stoppage victories over Anvi Yildirim, Billy Joe Saunders and Caleb Plant.
He recently got back to winning ways, dispatching Gennady Golovkin in their trilogy match.
But Beterbiev doesn't have the slightest concern about the punching power possessed by the four-weight world champion.
He said: "I think his technical side outweighs his physical force.
"His asset in the boxing is his thinking, he is a smart fighter.
"As for his punch power, I think there are fighters in our division who are stronger than him, who hit harder.
"I don't follow up closely other fighters, but Canelo seems to be training hard and he gets what he wants.
"As for how I am going to beat him, I don't want to reveal it to anyone.
"Generally speaking, I would be following the same guidelines I used in my previous fights.
"I will do my best to be fully prepared for this fight and stay 100% focused on it."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17607...eatable-power/
Ginger won't go back to 175. Especially to fight Beterbiev. So it's all pointless conjecture.
canelo being out until next september could be the best thing for boxing around one sixty eight & one seventy five. caleb v davib b is already signed & dmitry is talking about legacy over money. this is the best thing canelo could have done, he gets to rest up & refresh while these other guys are forced to fight each other instead of waiting on the golden egg
canelo says he may be able to return in may next year as his hand is healing well
For someone who prides himself on not being taken for a mug, it’s laughable how you hang on his every word and take it as gospel. ;D;D
CANELO ALVAREZ expects to make his boxing return in May after successful hand surgery and will do so seeking revenge.
The Mexican superstar went under the knife for a left hand injury which has plagued him since last year.
Canelo, 32, beat Genaddy Golovkin, 40, on points in their trilogy bout in September and faced being out for a year.
But now, the four-division champion could be back by May and has called out Dmitry Bivol, 31.
Canelo told Bet365.mx: “We will seek revenge.
"I lost trying to make history in another division, complicated, for me, it is number one in the 175-pound division.
“I think I’ll be ready for May again. I am here to face the best and have the best fights in boxing; all those fights interest me; whatever leads me to make history, that’s why I’m here."
Canelo was beaten on points by Bivol in May, failing in his WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.
The Russian has since beat Gilberto Ramirez, 31, and insisted a unification title clash with Artur Beterbiev, 37, was his main goal.
Promoter Eddie Hearn acknowledged a rematch with Canelo is massive but undisputed glory remains priority.
Hearn said: “It’s pretty obvious that Dmitry Bivol is about legacy and about belts. And he wants to become undisputed.
"That is his absolute main focus. Obviously from my side we want to make the biggest fights possible.
"The Canelo Alvarez rematch is a very big fight. But the priority for Dmitry is to be undisputed."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20433...ry-next-fight/
Bivol should give him the rematch... knock him out... and leave him to look around at 168 and then get knocked out by Benavidez. Sounds like a good plan to me.
If it happens you have to respect Canelo making a Bivol rematch. The guy can fight anyone he chooses, choosing someone that beat you easily shows gumption
We'll see when the conditions are set. Rehydration clauses... other diva demands... those would signify reverting back to the Canelo M.O., and would warrant no respect from me.
No matter how much I can do without it I can't fault Bivol should Canelo be lined up again. Finacial security is paramount. But half of my noninterest is knowing we're going to be once again sitting through the 'Canelo Que' giving the return from surgery and it'll be a fight after a fight possibly. If not more. Bivol isn't going to sit around until late next year and needs to maintain momentum. But bigger for me is that the experiment answered for itself and was the biggest crutch heard after Bivol spanked him. "He's not a lt heavyweight, he dared to be great but Bivol was too big" etc. But they'll except Bivol boiling down for the best interest of Canelo?! It's literally manufacturing something that has already played out and I just don't want to see Bivol still in that "just happy to be here and oblige" role when he is perfectly poised to follow fighter of the year with a career defining mega fan friendly unification. If-when Benavidez gets over Plant and does so impressively, he was-is and will be the 800lb gorilla still making himself at home in Canelos's house. Right there, feet kicked up and his table eating out of his fridge. Work to be done by Benavidez with Plant. First things first. But that's the Canelo work to be done and biggest remaining threat at 168...still.
Meanwhile the circus continues... with Usyk hinting he could return to cruiserweight, and Canelo saying he likes "feeling in danger." Usyk obviously looking to beat the cash cow... and Canelo desperately trying to build his (cough) legacy with stupid fights. Let's not forget he toyed with facing the "formidable" Ilunga Makabu for a cruiserweight trinket to add to his other trinkets.
So let's see... we've got Bivol saying he's not really interested in a Canelo rematch (but probably would for the right price)... Usyk wanting to drop down for the cash cow... and meanwhile Benavidez feeling ignored because Canelo won't (cough) "fight fellow Mexicans." Either way, the Canelo fan base will spin it in a positive fashion for Canelo... which is why I still hope whoever fights him next just knocks him out and end all this nonsense. Bivol could've done it if he pressed... and maybe he'll do it if there's a rematch.
yep I predicted Trump reinstated August 2021 but atleast he got Canelo prediction right, I agree, I also said in summer 2020 that Canelo had about 5 good fights left in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera@TITO Fan is right. Canelo is irrelevant at LHW. HE is a SMW , end of.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat would be easier and more realistic fights for Canelo than face the real light heavyweight champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterBeterbiev v Bivol would be a good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Canelo has no business at 175. Best he start paying attention to that other Mexican clamoring for him at 168. Oh right... Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans.
I feel good with Usyk just talking here. No way he's going that route and vice versa with Canelo. Just a lot of smoke when Fury is the high end muffin-sludge to move. Also Morrell is now looking for real-estate at 168 and showing he's capable. Wondering how mush Canelo is just sitting there hoping Morrell and Benavidez are made to sort it out first. That would actually be a fantastic fight ;D.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
If they did fight Alvarez would lose. But there's more money at heavyweight for Usyk, just hard ways to earn it. Fury and Wilder are tough nights and you've got the chance of being knocked out cold with Wilder. Not a good look for Ukraine right now. I don't think Alvarez is going to go near this. Fighting Bivol is a walk in the park compared to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
no fight date set yet but i'm already leaning towards caleb here, i'll have to wait to see them at the weigh in though to decideQuote:
Originally Posted by TICas i say that caleb says he's signed a contract to fight david b next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
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canelo licking his lips
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I wouldn't put it past The Ginger to (excuse the pun)... gingerly skip over light heavyweight (where Beterbiev would rip him a new one... and Bivol already did)... and head to cruiser for a shiny trinket.
He already entertained thoughts of fighting Makabu couple of years ago, before coming to his senses backing off.
Many fighters go up in weight... no problem there. But only The Ginger skips whole divisions to avoid getting reamed (again) by superior competition.
What a fukking trinket-grabber. :D :cool:
Where's all the Badou Jack revelry and respect ;D. Actually nice to see a guy absent all the theater and bait n switch. No "dared to be great" tonight ;D. If there's a list of this era's top multi division road warriors who face top dogs, contended and won in the title picture it's Jack. No silver platters handed after arguable L to Pascal. He decides to go 190 and actually works the weight and does work at lower level. Then springs up and beats the brakes off of the 190 trinket Canelo was teasing at the very highest level and makes himself a 3 division champ. And is totally overshadowed by of all things a Fury-Paul celebrity event :poke:. Hey if Canelo wants to knock on Jacks door I'm all for it. Sounds like a mutual collision style wise. As long as it means we don't have to sit thru Bivol spanking Canelo again sign me up.
do you think sergey kovalev could sneak in first? he was ordered in some wbc eliminator recently. badou v sergey could still be a bonza fight
this was a very good run by badouQuote:
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Sergey's yesterday's news. Spends his career at light heavy... wilts inexplicably against Ginger... goes on a 3-year hiatus... and comes back as a blown up cruiser for his only action after Ginger.
He should retire in shame.
Or... come back and make amends for his mysterious dive.
there was no mystery, it was a canelo right hand that iced sergeyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFancome back and make amends for his mysterious dive.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC