breaking news: champion emeritus primo carnera has announced his intentions to defend his undisputed four belt prediction championship, along with his pound for pound & people's champion status against all comers. more to come
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breaking news: champion emeritus primo carnera has announced his intentions to defend his undisputed four belt prediction championship, along with his pound for pound & people's champion status against all comers. more to come
any problem with the following fights primo carnera? i can chuck out or add in as this goes along
vasiliy lomachenko v jamaine ortiz
joseph diaz jr v william zepeda
hiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji
jonathan gonzalez v shokichi iwata
dmitry bivol v gilberto ramirez
shavkatdzhon rakhimov v zelfa barrett
sunny edwards vs felix alvarado
regis prograis v jose zepeda
zach parker v john ryder
troy williamson v josh kelly
juan francisco estrada v roman gonzalez
teofimo lopez v jose pedraza
josh warrington v luis alberto lopez
naoya inoue v paul butler
jermell charlo v tim tszyu
I think the following will suffice. Are these all confirmed fights with confirmed dates ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
vasiliy lomachenko v jamaine ortiz
dmitry bivol v gilberto ramirez
sunny edwards vs felix alvarado
regis prograis v jose zepeda
zach parker v john ryder
troy williamson v josh kelly
juan francisco estrada v roman gonzalez
teofimo lopez v jose pedraza
josh warrington v luis alberto lopez
naoya inoue v paul butler
jermell charlo v tim tszyu
the only one i don't think is a hundred percent confirmed is zach parker v john ryder. i would have to insist on keeping joseph diaz jr v william zepeda & hiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji. i also think david morrell v aidos yerbossynuly would be good fight to add. what about woman's fights & exhibitions or youtube fighters? a point for picking the winner, a point for the method by cards or stoppage, five points a draw, extra point for picking exact round of knockout?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI think the following will suffice. Are these all confirmed fights with confirmed dates ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
vasiliy lomachenko v jamaine ortiz
dmitry bivol v gilberto ramirez
sunny edwards vs felix alvarado
regis prograis v jose zepeda
zach parker v john ryder
troy williamson v josh kelly
juan francisco estrada v roman gonzalez
teofimo lopez v jose pedraza
josh warrington v luis alberto lopez
naoya inoue v paul butler
jermell charlo v tim tszyu
No exhibition or you tubers, only real boxing matches.
the only one i don't think is a hundred percent confirmed is zach parker v john ryder.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthe only one i don't think is a hundred percent confirmed is zach parker v john ryder. i would have to insist on keeping joseph diaz jr v william zepeda & hiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji. i also think david morrell v aidos yerbossynuly would be good fight to add. what about woman's fights & exhibitions or youtube fighters? a point for picking the winner, a point for the method by cards or stoppage, five points a draw, extra point for picking exact round of knockout?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI think the following will suffice. Are these all confirmed fights with confirmed dates ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
vasiliy lomachenko v jamaine ortiz
dmitry bivol v gilberto ramirez
sunny edwards vs felix alvarado
regis prograis v jose zepeda
zach parker v john ryder
troy williamson v josh kelly
juan francisco estrada v roman gonzalez
teofimo lopez v jose pedraza
josh warrington v luis alberto lopez
naoya inoue v paul butler
jermell charlo v tim tszyu
Ok
i would have to insist on keeping joseph diaz jr v william zepeda & hiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji. i also think david morrell v aidos yerbossynuly would be good fight to add.
nope
what about woman's fights & exhibitions or youtube fighters?
Nah
a point for picking the winner, a point for the method by cards or stoppage, five points a draw, extra point for picking exact round of knockout?
Ok , so ,
winner - 1point
Method - points or stoppage - 1 point
Correct round - extra point
Correct decision (UD, SD) - extra point
Draw - 5 points
All picks must be sent in a private message to @Master no later than 48 hours before the fight. When @Master has both predictions for a fight, he posts both of them together on this thread.
hiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji has to be there. the ring belt is on the line, it's probably also for lineal & it's a really good fight. i can do without the others. can we suggest to add fights if something we agree on gets signed & when is the end date?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
i have no problem with any of this, i think twenty four hours is sufficient but forty eight is fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
nope. too many bogus judges cards. you either think a fighter wins by decision or knockoutQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
you don't want to open it up to the whole forum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by TIChiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji has to be there. the ring belt is on the line, it's probably also for lineal & it's a really good fight. i can do without the others. can we suggest to add fights if something we agree on gets signed & when is the end date?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
i have no problem with any of this, i think twenty four hours is sufficient but forty eight is fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
nope. too many bogus judges cards. you either think a fighter wins by decision or knockoutQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
you don't want to open it up to the whole forum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
No it’s ok. I’ll give you a beating first, then if anyone fancies their chances, they can challenge me. A long time ago , a guy called @Silkeyjoe used to organise an amazing well thought out contest, but it gets too much and now we’ve lost a really good poster, especially for betting info.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIChiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji has to be there. the ring belt is on the line, it's probably also for lineal & it's a really good fight. i can do without the others. can we suggest to add fights if something we agree on gets signed & when is the end date?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
No. it stays as it is. Nothing gets added on because you’re chasing my ass and getting desperate, and the fights that I mentioned are the fights, period.
i have no problem with any of this, i think twenty four hours is sufficient but forty eight is fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
so we’re agreed 48 hrs prior.
nope. too many bogus judges cards. you either think a fighter wins by decision or knockoutQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
There’s an extra bonus for choosing the right round so it’s only fair there’s an extra point for the kind of decision. You don’t have to pick it, you can just put “points”. There are lots of bogus cards, but there are also referees who stop a fight too early. The beauty is to second guess them . All about attention to detail pal.
you don't want to open it up to the whole forum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
what you have to understand is that you challenged me , I am the “A” side and you are the “B” side. I’m putting my belts and legacy on the line.
finally, there has to be a winner and a loser, so it’s only reasonable that there is some kind of forfeit. So if I win, you have in your sig “COVID IS REAL”. And if you win , in my sig. I have “Beaten by @TIC, A DESERVED CHAMPION AND FONT OF ALL FACTUAL INFORMATION.”
hiroto Kyoguchi v kenshiro Teraji must be there. how can you have a boxing prediction contest & leave out a ring championship fight against the number one guy? if i win i'll choose what your sig will be
These are your negotiations, and you must agree but it is fair to have Kyoguchi v Teraji on the list.
Nope , Kyoguchi v Teraji doesn’t go on the list, and the sigs are as I said . Also, if ever it is written down , it is “@Primo Carnera v @TIC” and NEVER the other way round.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
You’ve got 24 hours to agree all points or the challenge is off! Tick Tock.
Diva demands. I have changed the title to the thread. :)
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Originally Posted by Master
If Primo dyes his hair red, I'm leaving. :D
the gauntlet was thrown at your feet to challenge for your claimed boxing prediction championships & i issued you a high quality boxing fight to predict on to defend your titles & you have repeatedly refused. i was happy to agree with all your other terms & only had this one request. it is a boxing prediction challenge after all. i may have possibly exposed a massive chink in your prediction abilities armor by calling you out. don't come chasing me now. i challenged you to predict a boxing fight & you turned diva & talked your way out of facing me. as far as i concerned that's a duck. i'll be talking with my team & we may be moving in a different direction with another sanctioning body, in a round robin type tournament to crown a new lineage while primo carnera hides in retirement, talking about how good he was but failing to back that up when challenged. i just want to apologize to all the fans that were hyped for this, i did everything i could to make the fight but you can't make the man fight if he don't wanna fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNope , Kyoguchi v Teraji doesn’t go on the list, and the sigs are as I said . Also, if ever it is written down , it is “@Primo Carnera v @TIC” and NEVER the other way round.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
You’ve got 24 hours to agree all points or the challenge is off! Tick Tock.
Quack quack. Some are destined to be champions, others just wannabe.
I blame Eddie Hearns for this fight not happening. He never wanted Primo (Donna) to take on the challenge as he would be losing his gravy train.
Watch Primo hide away with exhibitions against you tubers still claiming to be the best when he does not want to take on real challengers.
i challenged you to defend your claimed boxing prediction titles. i made a thread & offered some rule ideas. i sourced fights for us to predict on. i accepted your request to remove, jonathan gonzalez v shokichi iwata & shavkatdzhon rakhimov v zelfa barrett. i accepted your request to remove joseph diaz jr v william zepeda & not add david morrell v aidos yerbossynuly. i accepted the forty-eight-hour cut off. i accepted your request for a correct decision category. i accepted your request not to open the contest up to the whole forum. i accepted you choosing the signatures. i accepted your name being written first. i had one request, that a high-quality lineal boxing fight be included in the boxing prediction contest & you refused. it is clear you ducked me, but i no longer need you. just look at the views on this thread, it has more views than devin’s undisputed rematch thread that was started months ago. the people have spoken & i am clearly the new face of saddoboxingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
yea i'm disappointed the way primo carnera has handled the negotiations. he had the opportunity every one on the forum wants, to put me in my place, to show i dksab & he blew it. how can you call yourself a boxing prediction champion & refuse to predict on championship level boxing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
As the number 28th contender and next in line mandatory for the title. (I know it does not make sense, but I have paid the sanctioning fees to bribe the organisation).
I wish to challenge Tic, as Primo has clearly ducked the challenge.
I will accept all conditions from Tic as I want to win the belt and world title which has been a dream of mine.
Legacy matters and I am not interested in the money. I will fight for free and any money I make will go to charity.
make it bare knuckle and he'll agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Haha he hasn’t answered you that tells you either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
1. He’s bottled it.
2. You’re on his ignore list so he can’t read it . Or
3. Both of the above.
;D;D;D;D;D
Btw, he probably won’t read this because I’m on his ignore list as well! :lol::LMAO:
I don't get the whole ignore list thing, never have honestly. Especially if you're going on with multi threads for broader feedback-updates etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by SpicoliI don't get the whole ignore list thing, never have honestly. Especially if you're going on with multi threads for broader feedback-updates etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Once you're quoted your cover is blown, though. ;D
You can still see the person you ignored has posted and just click/tap to see the post anyway so the ignore list is pretty useless, although I do use it when people go on the insane quoteathons and you have to scroll a mile to see anything...
Will someone tell him about the challenge or is everyone on his ignore list?
I can't tell him because he's on my ignore list! :biglaugh::rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
sorry i have been busy & also focusing on my prospect watch series & trying to make the forum active with boxing talk/ news. firstly i agree that i was clearly ducked but i would not feel right in stripping a standing champion. therefore i have a different proposal. a prediction contest open to the whole forum, there aren't many of us but we are a family, a dysfunctional family but a family none the less, so let's do something inclusive on the site & have a bit of fun together. we are all here because of boxing, so let's predict some fights together. the rules would be the same as primo carnera & i agreed to but i have a few things that i'd like to add.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
lose one point for an wrong prediction
competition would end at the end of june twenty three. depending on interest it can start anew from the first of july until the end of next year
first fights would be this weekend with regis prograis v jose zepeda & zach parker v john ryder, predictions can be made up until the day before fight day for this opening week due to short notice
anyone can suggest a fight for the contest but it must get a minimum of four players to be valid, if four players make a prediction on a fight then it is included in the contest
fights after this week will need to be in forty eight hours before fight day
fights must be posted in the thread
i also have an extra idea:
the first player who makes their prediction (in the thread) for example chooses fighter a, the first player to post their prediction for fighter b would the set of a 'face off' between the two players, where the winner would earn two extra point. the next player who posted their prediction for player a would then wait to see if another player chose player b, if that happens another 'face off' would occur & so on until all match ups on predictions have been paired. if there are not an even amount of opposite predictions then those players without a pair would not be in a face off for that fight. a player would not lose any other points for losing a face off. this gives an incentive to post your prediction early to hopefully get a face off & an extra point for winning it
as current champion primo carnera would need to agree to these terms & play, or willingly vacate his championships. if primo carnera decides to play he will enter as the defending champion & at the end of the contest the player with the most points will be crowned champion
don't post any predictions yet, anyone on the forum interested in playing please reply to the thread. once there are at least four of us then i'll open the thread up to predictions
over to you boys
Very strategic TIC to avoid my challenge and focus on Primo.
I accept as I am all about legacy and do not want to let my fans down.
i'm just trying to give primo carnera the opportunity to defend his championships. if no one else is interested in about forty eight hours from now, then just you & i will battle it out for the vacant title, we'll just drop the face off ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Silkeyjoe and then Alpha organised the competition which is how Primo won the last time but could not get enough people for it to continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICi'm just trying to give primo carnera the opportunity to defend his championships. if no one else is interested in about forty eight hours from now, then just you & i will battle it out for the vacant title, we'll just drop the face off ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm the reigning champion and the People's Champion , any REAL winner has to get through me , and if people bottle it by refusing the contract stipulations on offer then they can never be seen as the true champion .
I don't need belts to prove I am #1 , so I toss my belts in the bin and you two can fight fight for my scraps .
Bowe did the same thing to avoid Lennox Lewis. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
primo carnera has clearly ducked the challenge once again. quack quack, it's sad to see a champion go out with a whimper instead of on his shield. as no one else has shown interest, it will just be the two of us to create a new lineage. are you still happy to go through to the end of june? there are usually not many fights at the beginning of the year so a few extra months should give us a good selection of fights to predict on. did you want to select someone to send our predictions to, if you want to keep them private or are you happy to just post in the tread? can we start a new thread? as this thread is now the official primo carnera ducked tic thread. good luckQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterBowe did the same thing to avoid Lennox Lewis. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Start the new thread and make the predictions in it. I have nothing to hide and am only interested in the good of boxing.