Teofimo Lopez vs Sandor Martin Dec 10th at MSG

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/10...h-in-new-york/

"Teofimo Lopez Battles Jose Pedraza On December 10th In New York"


Well... this is certainly an intriguing fight. I like Teo as a fighter... but in this one I'm afraid I'm gonna be rooting for my local guy. ;D

Seems to have the potential to be an extremely crowd-pleasing fight. One thing about Pedraza is he's got an impressive resume. This guy will fight anybody, as his record will attest. He does have the 4 losses, as sometimes he seems to come up just a bit short. I imagine Teo will be favored in this fight... but it seems like a hard one to predict for me. I'm happy to know it'll be on ESPN.

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https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/10...h-in-new-york/

"Teofimo Lopez Battles Jose Pedraza On December 10th In New York"


Well... this is certainly an intriguing fight. I like Teo as a fighter... but in this one I'm afraid I'm gonna be rooting for my local guy. ;D

Seems to have the potential to be an extremely crowd-pleasing fight. One thing about Pedraza is he's got an impressive resume. This guy will fight anybody, as his record will attest. He does have the 4 losses, as sometimes he seems to come up just a bit short. I imagine Teo will be favored in this fight... but it seems like a hard one to predict for me. I'm happy to know it'll be on ESPN.

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Good/solid fight- agree with everything you said. I give Teo credit, Pedraza is a tough fight for anyone. Pedraza reminds me of Jose Luis Castillo who had five losses while beating some top names in a stacked lightweight division and who also was a tough fight for anyone (including an undefeated Floyd). For some fighters the losses are “seasoning” and they help the fighters become true professionals. Freddie Pendleton, Castillo, Vince Philips, Keith Mullings, and Micky Ward are examples of guys who had losses but were solid fighters. This will be a good fight and great barometer/indicator for Teo at 140.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/10...h-in-new-york/

"Teofimo Lopez Battles Jose Pedraza On December 10th In New York"


Well... this is certainly an intriguing fight. I like Teo as a fighter... but in this one I'm afraid I'm gonna be rooting for my local guy. ;D

Seems to have the potential to be an extremely crowd-pleasing fight. One thing about Pedraza is he's got an impressive resume. This guy will fight anybody, as his record will attest. He does have the 4 losses, as sometimes he seems to come up just a bit short. I imagine Teo will be favored in this fight... but it seems like a hard one to predict for me. I'm happy to know it'll be on ESPN.

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Good/solid fight- agree with everything you said. I give Teo credit, Pedraza is a tough fight for anyone. Pedraza reminds me of Jose Luis Castillo who had five losses while beating some top names in a stacked lightweight division and who also was a tough fight for anyone (including an undefeated Floyd). For some fighters the losses are “seasoning” and they help the fighters become true professionals. Freddie Pendleton, Castillo, Vince Philips, Keith Mullings, and Micky Ward are examples of guys who had losses but were solid fighters. This will be a good fight and great barometer/indicator for Teo at 140.

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Castillo to me is the poster child of great fighters who gave us incredible fights, and paid zero attention to "maintaining a pretty record." The others on your list are good examples as well. I would add a guy like Ray Mercer in there, and while I'm at it how about Evander. Multiple losses on those guys' records... but it takes nothing away from their greatness. As you said, these guys used their losses to learn and become better for the next fight. None of these guys worried about the imagery that some of today's divas concern themselves with.

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-...d-face--170278

"Teofimo Lopez on Pedraza: It’s Not Someone That I Would Have Liked To Face"


I was surprised by Teo's candidness here. It's not the norm for fighters to say that. That said, I think it'll be a hell of a fight. I like Teo, but he IS swimming in light welter waters now.

i see jose is getting blown out here. the undercard has a number of prospects on it
tiger johnson in his first eight rounder v once beaten mike o’han jr
jared anderson v competent journeyman jerry forrest
xander zayas v experienced alexis salazar
keyshawn davis v veteran juan carlos burgos
joe ward v once beaten frederic julan
unbeaten heavy damian knyba v emilio salas
bruce shu shu carrington v juan tapia
jahi tucker v ivan pandzic

I disagree on the "blown out" part, but can definitely see José losing to Teo.

Of the others, I like Jared. He needs to continue his development, and should be a force to be reckoned with before too long.

I'm very high on local fighter Xander Zayas. Will be rooting for him to become champion at some point.

The rest I'm sort of unfamiliar with.

Looks like a good card on those three fights alone.

This should be a solid card. Lots of 'future boxing' in action. Lopez strikes me as not being satisfied where he's at. He has to know the rebuild to 140 dictates these types of fights and mentally he still has some steadying to do. And now being ordered to fight Sandor Martin can after Pedraza can only add to it and wouldn't be shocked to see him make some bad mistakes with Pedraza. He'll win, but if Pedraza remains anything, it's a sharp puncher completely comfortable and confident in his own skin. Teo needs to keep his head screwed on straight.

jose pedraza has apparently pulled out with illness & sandor martin has stepped in

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jose pedraza has apparently pulled out with illness & sandor martin has stepped in

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Ironic isn't it. wbc orders a fight and suddenly he gets the chance to come in on 2-3 week notice as replacement.

Changed titled with Martin in now.

this is a slight upgrade for me but teo needs to be on point
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Have to give it to Top Rank. They know how to consistently keep on the build and top exposure of very solid prospects. What a stacked "undercard". The theory and hope is some of them eventually face off under the same promotion. Ironically, they still have the roots of network cable and cover all bases with apps as well. Just saying ;D.

all decent step up fights or developmental tests for these prospects

bruce 'shu shu' carrington is off the card, apparently his opponent failed the medicals. hopefully 'shu shu' can jump on the january fourteenth top rank card

teo has had some favourable cards in the past in my opinion, a judge had by one point against george kambosos, the judges had him by ten & eight points twice against masayoshi nakatani, & six & ten points against loma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ4jbcVmr5w

That was a novel weigh in, Teo eating a chocolate and pulling out a golden ticket. Willy Wonka.

Seems like they're getting a late start with undercard. Shame we had Carrington cancelled thru no fault of his own, promotion should have caught that!

i've given delante 'tiger' johnson the first four rounds of this eight rounder, guy's got talent

delante all over his opponent, ref jumps in to stop it in five

damian knyba v emilio salas. first to damian

all damian in the second, fight stopped

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all damian in the second, fight stopped

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Where are you catching this? All I've been getting from the 6pm undercard option is "this event has not started yet" ???

frederic julan v joe ward. first two for joe

three for joe, not doing anything noteworthy

gave the fourth to joe but he got caught with a couple of big shots

joe winning unimpressively

Yeh this has been pretty pedestrian over 6 rounds. Ward feels like he almost doesn't want a fight to break out.

Worst combo in boxing, lazy jab, step in, hug and hug.

given joe all seven, last round coming up

Ward should be warned for this constant clinching.

gave the last to frederic. joe by six points

one judge has joe by four points, the other two judges have joe by six points

This is how espn botches it. Buy the app(s) then they cut that with zero updates and now the espn network is delayed by 10-15 minutes :D

Thought apps fixed this. This Heisman winner is long winded

Anyone else watching the Heisman Trophy presentation where boxing is supposed to be??

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This is how espn botches it. Buy the app(s) then they cut that with zero updates and now the espn network is delayed by 10-15 minutes :D

Thought apps fixed this. This Heisman winner is long winded

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Just saw this. ;D

Thought I was the only one with a perplexed look on my face.

Finally!

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

This is how espn botches it. Buy the app(s) then they cut that with zero updates and now the espn network is delayed by 10-15 minutes :D

Thought apps fixed this. This Heisman winner is long winded

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Just saw this. ;D

Thought I was the only one with a perplexed look on my face.

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Man it's actually embarrassing ;D. They have 3-4 stations on reg cable still and then the app. Can't just start on time somewhere...anywhere ???.

Alright Keyshawn time! Burgos still going. Wow

Evening guys. ;D

My 1st look at Keyshawn Davis. Pretty smooth for a 6-0 fighter.