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Just a great fight possibly well overdue but I’m all in. The ppv anchor before its even official and absent any undercard is a kick in the nuts but the unfortunate new norm of boxing. Could be a great display of how confidence as both are very much so. Plant fully believes he’s in another league and is better today than prior to Canelo but this will get very physical very quick. But I don’t like the chatter of Benavidez promising ko’s. And he damn sure better make weight :-X.
To be fair that's not a bad ppv main event, saying that I'm not buying it, UFC has fights of a lower level as ppv main events and it's praised because they're good match ups... This is a good match up, plant is a former world champ and Alvarez victim and Benavidez is sold as a potential Alvarez beater(can't remember if Benavidez is a former champ or not). Two of the best super middleweights around and that's a weight class where money could be made, I don't object to that as a ppv... I don't know too much about Benavidez but as I am an Alvarez fan I'm hoping his victim (plant) gets the win here to make the mexican look even better.
david b held the wbc super middleweight title but lost in when he missed weight, he currently holds the wbc interim title. this is a very good fight & there seems to be real bad blood between the two camps. caleb looks dynamic under stephen 'breadman' edwards. i just think caleb is better & david b is going to sleepQuote:
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jesus alejandro 'momo' ramos v joey spencer & jose valenzuela v chris colbert could both be on this card. mono was my prospect of the year for twenty one. time for joey to sink or swim, he's sinking here
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cody crowley v abel ramos is also rumoured to be on this card as a wbc welterweight eliminator
Nothing against Plant, but I'm rooting for Benavidez in this one. It'll force the Mexican diva to at least reconsider fighting another Mexican. ;)
I’m team Caleb for this one. Nothing against Benavidez, but I just like Caleb.
live press conference in about two hours from now. should be fun. these guys don't like each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImbWp0bzyUc
I turned it off
It was really immature
david b is a clown. how many times did he stand up, only to sit back down. another fighter who's father is too highly invested. caleb going to be burying another body
It certainly looks like it's gonna be a fun fight either way. Caleb is certainly more likeable than Benavidez... that's for sure.
The result? Meh.
A Caleb win will certainly raise the stock of Canelo, and even more important... will give Canelo an out for not ever facing Benavidez... which is something I don't want.
I think Caleb did what he could against Canelo... but it's frustrating to see these fighters rise to the occasion against everybody else... only to lie down and play timid against Canelo (see: Callum Smith, Sergey Kovalev).
Not accusing Caleb of that, since again, I thought he did what he could at the time.
If I had to predict, though... I think Benavidez takes this one.
if david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn'tQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICif david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn'tQuote:
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Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.
canelo already said he thinks david b winsQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICif david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn'tQuote:
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Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.
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Originally Posted by TICcanelo already said he thinks david b winsQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICif david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.
Thinking... hoping... two different things. :)
canelo might be secretly hoping that caleb wins but he has predicted that david b will winQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICcanelo already said he thinks david b winsQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICif david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.
Thinking... hoping... two different things. :)
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Originally Posted by TICcanelo already said he thinks david b winsQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TICif david b wins he deserves a canelo fight, if he loses he doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Which in my opinion means Canelo is rooting hard for Plant.
Thinking... hoping... two different things. :)
agreed on both counts
I think plant has the ability to win this fight on his toes. The question is will he... or does he buy into the bad blood and the dirrell KO and stand in front of Benavidaz, trying to prove a point?
Benavidaz is a big kid. He seems a little slow and deliberate, but once he finds you he tries to put a hurting on you. I primarily think this is why the match was made from his side. There's not much you can do to improve a fighters pop aside from the more fundamental form things things. Either a fighter has it or he doesn't. I think Benavidaz's camp is riding on that principle and that they're going to try to recreate the canelo victory only faster, hoping they can goad plant into a nose to nose.. then power and combination punches pile up on plant and he crumples before he did against Canelo. Or else why fight why take this fight.
Plant seems like an alright guy and he's slicker than many people gave him credit for. Still there's two things that concern me. Aside from his lack of pop, he seems to be preoccupied at times with image and validation. That conversation in the ring with Canelo should have never happened. He sounded like a groupie looking for approval. I like that he carried himself with more dignity/ restraint than Canelo at the press conference.. but after the direll fight, the ode to Tito Ortiz was disrespectful and also premeditated because of the rivalry. The word is out, I feel and people are just going to try an rattle him now. No one is afraid of how he comes out after disrespected, just that he's reactionary.
I don't feel like this is the ferrari/ tank thing Martinez vs. Chavez Jr. was... probably more like Japanese tuner vs. Block American muscle car. The muscle cars powerful engine is a detriment to its speed, till it hits you.... which is still something it can do from behind... Calebs a tough kid but I think Benavidez eventually starts taking the body after the head gets too elusive. Maybe this ends with a shot to the liver and a follow up to the head. Or Plant toughs it out and loses on the cards. -- Unless he can put Benavidez on his ass in impressive fashion and give him something to think about early...Plants going to have a hard time keeping him off.
a battle of the coaches as well, jose benavidez sr is a bit underrated, i like how diego pacheco has improved under him, stephen "breadman" edwards is also very good in the corner & it showed in caleb's last fight. i wasn't that concerned with caleb's after fight antics against anthony. i think caleb has shown great restraint so far & may be in david's head
should we be concerned that angel 'memo' heredia is in camp benavidez?
That's a great take! Agree on Plant getting a bit sucked into the head swell or need for recognition. All I've seen is talk of the Dirrell KO. But make no mistake he and Benavidez are completely different animals. Plant has the knowledge of range and mobility to keep Benavidez on the reset in gaps but there will be a point where he must make Benavidez respect him, but not by getting caught in exchanges especially to body.Quote:
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unbeaten featherweights luis reynaldo nunez v christian olivo barreda are set for this card, will be on the youtube portion
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caleb purchased the domain name davidbernavidez.com to sell his merch, genius
http://davidbenavidez.com/
i'd like to see tony weeks as the ref for this fight
Admittedly looking forward to this more than Tank v Ryan. No disrespect both excellent overdue top fights. Needed match ups. Both Benavidez and Plant just feel oddly more investment as individuals and purpose.
i agree. i find it funny that it's a top fight for david b but caleb had already lost the fight when he signed the contract for caneloQuote:
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Like living full push on the Dirrell KO. It was pretty clear he wouldn't have the firepower to take Canelo based on his 'coasting' moments in fights prior. I think the arse kicking did him some good big picture. Really a perfect measuring stick for Benavidez, comparability etc. Both have things to prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICi agree. i find it funny that it's a top fight for david b but caleb had already lost the fight when he signed the contract for caneloQuote:
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Originally Posted by SpicoliLike living full push on the Dirrell KO. It was pretty clear he wouldn't have the firepower to take Canelo based on his 'coasting' moments in fights prior. I think the arse kicking did him some good big picture. Really a perfect measuring stick for Benavidez, comparability etc. Both have things to prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICi agree. i find it funny that it's a top fight for david b but caleb had already lost the fight when he signed the contract for caneloQuote:
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It was pretty clear to me, too. But most importantly it was pretty clear to Team Canelo.
Amazing listening to both sides of fans on their picks. Benavidez "too big too strong" and Plant "slick and so skilled" on and on. I do have to wonder is Plant is getting juuuust a touch overinflated. I just don't know if he has that 12-round rowdy yard dog in him that it's going to take to outhustle and detour Benavidez from pouring it on. Gonna have to stand it at some point.
Plant has re-asserted himself into the world title picture with an impressive knockout victory against Anthony Dirrell and now is hoping a win over Benavidez can take him one step closer to facing Alvarez for a second time.
"I would become the mandatory so technically no," Plant responded when asked by The DAZN Boxing Show about whether he wants anyone other than Alvarez if he gets past Benavidez.
"But I’m just letting it be known now that if that isn’t good enough, then I need to step to Jermall Charlo right after that and beat him. I would be more than willing and able to do that.
"He’s already the WBC champ at 160, he can come up to super middleweight and first dibs.
"The focus right now is David Benavidez and that would put me in line to handle business as I should, right now I’m just focused on the fight in front of me."
Plant also had time to reflect on his November 2021 meeting with Alvarez and revealed what was the biggest lesson he learnt from the clash in Las Vegas.
"I think the most important thing I took away from that fight wouldn’t be anything technically, it would just be the experience," Plant said.
"Experience is something that you can’t buy, you don’t get it overnight, you have to go through the fire to get that, and I’ve done that, I’ve done that gracefully. I haven’t made any excuses."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...4b929840&ei=94
This final eliminator for the WBC super middleweight title pits the slugger against the stylist with the slugger, Benavidez, the favourite with the moneymen. The American-born Benavidez was born to a Mexican father and he has shown all the traits of fighters from that part of the world with an unblemished record (26-0). He also has a knockout ratio of 88.5% and knocked out five of his last six opponents.
The general consensus is that brawn will topple style in Vegas and former heavyweight champion Andy Ruiz believes as much. "I got my money on Benavidez," said Mexican Ruiz when speaking with PBC. "He is just a bigger fighter, a stronger guy, 'The Mexican Monster.' "Nothing against Caleb, he is a warrior, and we all risk our lives in the ring, but I just feel like Benavidez will be too much." The Phoenix native was certainly too much for his last opponent David Lemieux, forcing a third-round stoppage in Arizona. Benavidez was the younger, taller man and although he weighed in just a quarter of a pound heavier than the Canadian, he made his size count from the off.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...604cd0e3&ei=47
Love this match up. I’ve got a lot of time for Plant, love his persona and the way he fights. Then when he did the old “grave digger” after the Dirrell KO, I thought that was naughty.
But Benavidez is a fucking horrible bastard in the nicest possible way. Very angry man and certainly doesn’t mind his P’s & Q’s in press conferences. Vicious puncher as well.
I want Plant to win, but I’m seriously worried about Benavidez and who knows, he could obliterate Plant and we could be seeing him go to elite level status.
Great fight.
This is a great fight going in
The winner deserves credit
I don't see Plant winning
I think Plant has stamina issues
Benavidez by either dominant mid - late KO or Plant puts up a fight & it's a close hard fight before Benavidez ends it late
Plant's not making the final bell
If lightning strikes and Plant somehow wins this fight... Ginger's off the hook... and the sigh of relief will be heard back in Guadalajara.
Did Benavidez look gaunt and dry at the press conference and weigh in to anyone else? He'll start his rehydrating of course but if he looks dry after warming up, I can see last minute bets on Plant.