i just watched the fight again...
judah wins 1-2-3-4 11 and 12
thats 6 rounds
count the knockdown and judah should have won
but of corse, the PBF fans say he dominated ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sure ::**
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i just watched the fight again...
judah wins 1-2-3-4 11 and 12
thats 6 rounds
count the knockdown and judah should have won
but of corse, the PBF fans say he dominated ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sure ::**
:D
PBf won the 3rd round.. Judah didn't win the 11th.. So that's 8-4.. Which is basically what 2 of the cards were. :D ::**
thats what ledderman scored it...Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
ledderman is biased, i feel judah won the 3rd and the 11th ;)
I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO DEFEND GLEN HAMADAS SCORES OVER MINE ;)
How about this, Glen Hamada is a professional judge and you are an obsessive fan who needs to relax before you have an ulcer or something. No one else here cares as much as you, man.
how about this, glen hamada is about 86 years old and is no longer of proper mental capacity to judge a world title fight ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bgordon
i dont think zab defiantly won but it was alot closer than the judges made out and maybe could have been ruled a draw ???
Honestly, PBF was in serious trouble in the first 4 rounds. PBF looked like a deer caught in headlights. Judah was never scared but he had a hard time letting his hands go. It was a closer fight then ppl think and it was a great fight imo. Sometimes, ppl will just go with the commentary and since it was obviously biased towards pbf, ppl will be brainwashed. I say watch the fight without the volume. You'll see that it was a very close fight.
If anything, this should become a trilogy because it was the best fight I've seen in years and boxing needs to wake up and smell the coffee cause UFC is kicking their arse. Watching both of these talented boxers really helped me get back into boxing. Boxing is a great sport but if you watched the undercards you will see why UFC is much better in terms of excitement. Diaz and cotto was just plain borring as hell. 2 guys attached by the head just pounding each other. No skill involved imo. YOu can watch nobodies in a ufc fight and still enjoy the fight. I was dying for the cotto-diaz fight to end.
Anyways, This fight was very good for boxing and I'd love to see a rematch. It was the first pay per view in years that I bought and didn't feel cheated. Hope we can all at least agree with that.
Let me say this...& I'd like to say that it's the last thing that I'll say...but I'm sure it won't be...Floyd won the fight.
I wasn't biased & when I do a round by round...I aint listening to the commentating other than cackling at how overly excited they get about anything.
In my personal opinion...if people think that HBO was being biased towards Floyd...you do need to watch the fight again & listen to the commentary.
I watch the fight & do the Round by Round & then always go back a second & third time & score the fight myself & watch it for my own enjoyment...Judah won the first 5 rounds of that fight...sorry people...but after that it was pretty much all Floyd Mayweather.
Also...as far as UFC being better than boxing...that's an opinion...one that doesn't carry much weight on a boxing forum either...but then again...that's just another opinion in itself. ;D
CC,well put Wack. The point is, it was competetive for the first few rounds then Floyd took over. Fair enough, the judges scorecards were in Floyd's favour a little too much but the fact is Floyd won,simple as. As for HBO being biased,that's nonsense. Listen to the criticism of Floyd by Merchant in particualr in the Chico fight, Sharmba fight and I think there was the odd comment here too.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Best fight in years?! It was good but there have been awesome fights all the time. Maybe you have not seen Pac-Morales who are skilled hall of famers,Brewster Lyakovich,Sithchatchawal-Monshipour,etc etc that's all just this year!! As for UFC being better..... ::** ???
WTF makes you think that your the sole voice of reason against almost everyone else interested in boxing (plenty of whom don't like Mayweather)? Those with a sense of balance scored it 8-4 Mayweather (116-112 not counting the knockdown and 115-113 with). Judah didn't win the third. Not even Judah own camp has got involved in the flights of fantasy you have. Must have Zab picture hidden at the bottom of your sock and underwear drawer
:coolclick: in another 24 babe.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
As far as Mayweather & Merchant go...Merchant can't really stand Floyd & I truthfully don't believe that he's buying into FLoyd's grown up attitude...but for some reason...I do. I think that after all the flack he got from the Gatti debacle...he's realize the error of his way...also...I think that he might have some thing stewing with another fighter/promoter as far as matching with him & joining that team...I could be wrong...but I don't think that I am.
Stranger things.
I've seen a lot of great fights over the year so far...honestly...I thought that the entire card was pretty damned good.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Now as far as UFC goes...I gotta admit...I have no stomach for it.
To me...there aint nothing sweet about it & there's def no science to it...fans of UFC will disagree...but I TRULY DO NOT HAVE THE STOMACH FOR IT.
My brother has tried to convert me for years...but in the end...there are waaaaaay to many beatings that go on for the sake of violence in that thing that I just think need to be stopped.
I am not really a fan of that much blood. Trust me...I've seen my fair share of boxing matches that I thought shoulda been stopped earlier on & all that...but truthfully...UFC has always ALWAYS passed the breaking point with me.
I never said that Judah won. I said that it was a close fight in my eyes. PBF did win but not as overwhelmingly as the judges had it. The commentary was completely biased against Judah. I barely heard one good thing about judah in the first rounds. Larry is practically in love with PBF. If you can't see that then something is wrong with you.
Look, I never said that UFC is a better sport. I said that it is a better bang for your buck in terms of excitement. Also, Guys put a lot more on the line in the ufc. UFC is a real fight more or less. Boxing is a sport. Entertainment wise UFC wins at this point in time. Put pbf in the octagon with just a class b fighter and he will lose.
I'm talking broadly here...not just directed at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by *Lights*out*
Overall picture is what I'm commenting on.
fair enough but for the record, I think boxing has more dangerous long term effects. Getting knocked out and being aloud to keep fighting is hazardous to the brain. There may be less blood in boxing but it's got its dangers too. At least when someone is ko'd in ufc the fight is over. Even if it was just a flash ko. That's safer for the fighters imo.
sorry for the hijack
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
and your biased twards judah
put this shit to bed already
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :oQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
are you telling me didint give him the 12th?
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by The Game
if someone didint know who zab was and they listened to merchant they would have ingnored everything he did, as they would have thought he was shit
the commentary was rediculous, and i dont think ive EVER felt commentary was biased, the only guy who wasnt biased (untill lampley gave him a look as he asked "should the fight have been stopped") was lennox
how did u divide the rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by shooter
Just because the commentary is spoken the way you want it to be...just because they don't side with your fighter...doesn't mean that it's biased.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
if merchant cant stand floyd, how would you discride his attitude toward judah, if u didnt catch what im sayin, watch the ring enterances and right before, in that time frame merchant casts SOOO much hate,Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
also when judah starts to move his hands around, merchant puts him down, and goes hes hurt, and hes just trying to do something new or dsome shit, and he doesnt give ANY credit once judah lands a punch immidiatley after that
also if u wanna see MMA that is scientific, watch either antonio noguera (the older nogueira) or fedor eliamenko of pride
wadderlei silva is the man u go to for raw intensity ;)
no, i mean they do the HBO fighter thing,Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
PBF (not to hate on him) wasnt throwing that hard, he was just making contact to score points
when he landed lampley would go "solid shot"
when judah threw a hard shot and landed perfectley
"a grazing blow"
not NEARLY as bad as glen hamada was to PBF, also my scoring was NOT biased ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dramaking
i didnt score it live, i never really do, and i DID think floyd won convincingly, then i actually scored the fight and realized i had it even, its just that PBFs rounds are all consecutive, and it makes it seem like he dominated
sal my brotha this is getting sad
I could care less who would have won the fight. I simply wanted to see two good fighters go at it and the clear winner was Mayweather. Stop it already. You sound like I sounded when Whitaker beat Chavez. I loved Chavez and I made every excuse in the book to legitimize the draw or even claim a win.
I said such things as "if you turn the sound off, it will become a whole different fight". It was only 10 years later that I was able to come to terms that my idol lost.
listen, you can watch the fight upside down, through a window, with one-eyed closed, with a bunch of drunk Mexicans, with a group of Brits, you could have watch it on a lake, with a rake, on a box, with a fox, ....the fact is that Mayweather still won Sam-I-Am.
by the way
do you like green eggs and ham?
i know he won, but he didnt dominate, like may claim ;)
answer the question...do you like green eggs and ham?
I just realized that this is a conspiracy on your part to up your post count and CC's!!!
how dare you!!! I bet that evil fiend Saddo is behind all this?
Because he was hurt. What happened right before he did that dumb shat? He got his jaws popped & his rib cage tagged.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Sal...that MMA shat doesn't do anything for me...so apparently...you missed my point of view or either you lost the ability to read at some point...but I don't expect you to be able to see or think straight...not with Judah on the brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
only if im in a jam ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
im just sayin if u wanna see something completley different if the world of mma those are the two guys to see, they dont really strike much, theyre more about submissions
Zudah did not win the 11th. He landed 2 punches, 1 to the balls, and 1 to the back of the head. Floyd controlled the round, and was hurting Zab. Zab couldn't keep him off, therefore he committed a foul.
rnd 3,Floyd clearly stepped up and took that round. I don't know what fight some of you guys watched.
I don't know what fight you watched cause the balls shot happened in the 10thQuote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
that was rd 10Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
I'm pretty sure Floyd won the third... wasn't it 15-7 for Floyd? Something like that?
I don't remember the 11th right now, I'll have to watch it again.
Why doesn't someone just upload the third round, post it here, and we can decide who won it.
You can all decide anything that you want...but it's already been decided that Judah got his ass kicked...AGAIN...& all of his fans are crying about it...AGAIN...& all of you are hoping that somehow the "supposed wrongs" can be righted...AGAIN...but in the end...he was just Zab Judah...& AGAIN...it just wasn't enough.
and again you exagurate. judah didn't get his ass kicked wacko ;)
Starr...come the hell on...he was bleeding from his mouth & his nose (...if I wanted to exagerate I'd say he was bleeding from him poop chute too...but my name aint Sal) & one of his eyes was swollen up like an egg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
He got his ass kicked...& he got beaten.
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Originally Posted by *Lights*out*
You are correct sirs, for some reason I was under the impression that people were saying Floyd lost the round with the lowblow. I read something wrong somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
I still had Floyd winning the 11th. Zab missed, and Floyd connected. Zab didn't have the sense of urgency in 11 as he did in 12, and Mayweather still outboxed him.
Thanks again for correcting my mistake, and Floyd still won with or without the 11th.
Thats what happened. He got beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
gatti got his ass kicked.
But Judah didn't get it kicked against Mayweather just as DLH didn't get it kicked against Mosley the first time.