Hatton fancies Mayweather job!

Hatton fancies Mayweather job!

Tuesday, April 11 2006

By Richard Fletcher

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...EHEuGSgNf.html

Ricky Hatton's promoter Dennis Hobson says the WBA-IBF light-welterweight champion fancies his chances against Floyd Mayweather even more after the pound-for-pound leader's tainted welterweight title victory over Zab Judah in Las Vegas last weekend. In a telephone conversation concerning Hatton's stablemate Esham Pickering, who fights for the IBF featherweight title on the same bill as Hatton's clash with Colombian Luis Collazo in Boston on May 13, Hobson said, "I wasn't over-impressed. He [Mayweather] is no Sugar Ray Leonard, I can tell you that. Judah punched for the first four rounds and then he just seemed to go into his shell. He [Hatton] is gonna be like a steam train, he's not gonna be able to stop coming at him. He [Mayweather] has got all the ability in the world but's that's all right if you're having your own way. One thing's for sure, Ricky Hatton's not gonna let him have it all his own way. Ricky fancies the job big style. A lot of the Yanks think Mayweather's this, that and the other. But look what happened with Jeff Lacy? I think sometimes we undersell ourselves as Britons." Hatton fights Collazo for the WBA welter title while Mayweather now holds the IBF version.

Hobson said: "I think sometimes we undersell ourselves as Britons."

I think what he meant was that he had a hell of a time selling himself over here in the states as a Briton.

Don't underestimate Floyd off of just one performance...it will be your down fall. ;D

"But look what happened with Jeff Lacy?"

I know the point they're trying to get across, but comparing Floyd to what happened with Jeff Lacy is ridiculous.

Hatton will lose. And if Calzaghe was the same weight as Floyd, or vice-versa, he'd get beat worse.

i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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Good point, but Floyd will fight Hatton totally different than he did Zab. Floyd knows what mistakes Tszyu made, and won't make the same mistakes.

Both are smart fighters. But if Hatton underestimates Floyd, he will lose.

This matchup will come down to the difference in speed imo.
Zab gave Floyd a couple problems early 'cause Zab does have great quickness himself, I'll give him that.
But the difference in speed between Floyd and Hatton will be too much for Ricky.
It's gonna be a discouraging to Ricky when Floyd is popping him every time he comes in.
This will not come down to a battle of attition.
Both fighters are extremely prepared to go 12 rounds of high paced action any night. I don't give anyone the advantage there.

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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Good point, but Floyd will fight Hatton totally different than he did Zab. Floyd knows what mistakes Tszyu made, and won't make the same mistakes.

Both are smart fighters. But if Hatton underestimates Floyd, he will lose.

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i agree....it will be a totally different fight but let's just hope that Hatton dosen't lose heart and decides to stop fighting. Ive seen too many fighters do that before.

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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Good point, but Floyd will fight Hatton totally different than he did Zab. Floyd knows what mistakes Tszyu made, and won't make the same mistakes.

Both are smart fighters. But if Hatton underestimates Floyd, he will lose.

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See i don't think Hatton will underestimate floyd or anyone for that matter.
Billy Graham is a master tacticion and Hattons rough style will be something that PBF has never faced as will his incredible stamina and bulldozer style.
Hatton will bash him up brutally.
Mark my words ;)
PBF won't like what Ricky dishes out and will lose his head i reckon.
There really is a new sheriff in town and he is Sir Richard Hatton.
I used to doubt Hatton beating him BUT i see cracks in Floyd with every differnt style he faces and Hatton will Demoralise him then relentlessly beat him to a pulp 8)

Floyd could and is likely to expose Hatton's defense with his precise lightning fast counter punching, i hope ur right Smashup

Just my opinion but i feel Hatton is too intense for Him and will bully his way to victory 8)

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Hatton will lose. And if Calzaghe was the same weight as Floyd, or vice-versa, he'd get beat worse.

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Floyd can have all the ability in the world, but he'll never be mean enough to fight someone like Calzaghe. We all thought Lacy was vicious but Joe showed us you could infact be even more vicious. IE: While Lacy was getting slaughtered what was Calzaghe saying in between rounds? - He's shit! Fuck him - then went right back to rearranging his skull. Some people just truely love hurting others, and I love Joe for that :)

While I don't think Hatton is quite as ruthless as Calzaghe (and yes I truely believe he could beat a human being to death and not feel bad about it, he's just mean lol - Poor Roy), he's still got the the right style for mayweather, and unlike Judah he'll be active on the inside, slowing floyd down with body punches like he did to Judah. I think Hatton will confuse the shit out of him. If I had to guess he'd be saying to himself holy shnikeys, this guy won't stop throwing, coming forward, nor will he go down! What do I do? If he's smart he'll make a note of what Judah did to him in the 10th. Cotto I think is a bit too slow to make a fight with Mayweather competitive, Corrales as much as I hate to admit would be dismantled again, Freitas at 140 would be a good fight but still would end up with Floyd victorious. Bottom line if Ricky can't do it, I doubt anyone will.

I've got one thing to say to Hatton, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP DUCKING PBF THEN!!! If Hatton's ready, they can make the fight after Collazo, Mayweather's open in September anyway. Let's get it on right now and stop fucking talking about 2007 if your so fucking confident. Hatton didn't say shit after PBF murdered Gatti, but because Floyd had a little trouble with Zab, now all of a sudden he wants to talk. Come on Hatton, somebody's 0 has to go.

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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... Judah didn't make a mistake... Mayweather just figured him out, relaxed, and adapted. Hatton doesn't have the only thing that made this fight somewhat hard for Mayweather, and thats comparable speed.

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"But look what happened with Jeff Lacy?"

I know the point they're trying to get across, but comparing Floyd to what happened with Jeff Lacy is ridiculous.

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Yeah the Jeff Lacy comparison is a little absurd. Somebody should tell Dennis that it's Mayweather that is the boxer, Ricky is the puncher :P

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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Good point, but Floyd will fight Hatton totally different than he did Zab. Floyd knows what mistakes Tszyu made, and won't make the same mistakes.

Both are smart fighters. But if Hatton underestimates Floyd, he will lose.

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i agree....it will be a totally different fight but let's just hope that Hatton dosen't lose heart and decides to stop fighting. Ive seen too many fighters do that before.

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And when has Gatti lost heart and stop fighting? He didn't even against ODLH... He has more heart than Hatton IMO... its just too much fighting Mayweather... you'll see.

shame. If Collazo beats Hatton :(

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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... Judah didn't make a mistake... Mayweather just figured him out, relaxed, and adapted. Hatton doesn't have the only thing that made this fight somewhat hard for Mayweather, and thats comparable speed.

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well imo, he could of done alot more than he was doing.....Sure the bodyshots slowed him down, but he could of made the extra effort to throw more punches rather than his range finder left jab.

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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Good point, but Floyd will fight Hatton totally different than he did Zab. Floyd knows what mistakes Tszyu made, and won't make the same mistakes.

Both are smart fighters. But if Hatton underestimates Floyd, he will lose.

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i agree....it will be a totally different fight but let's just hope that Hatton dosen't lose heart and decides to stop fighting. Ive seen too many fighters do that before.

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And when has Gatti lost heart and stop fighting? He didn't even against ODLH... He has more heart than Hatton IMO... its just too much fighting Mayweather... you'll see.

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Well obviously, Hatton will have to find a way to get inside and rough Floyd up..
Gatti didn't, he looked like he was outboxing him and he got bashed up from the outside all night long

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shame. If Collazo beats Hatton :(

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he won't, im guessing you've seen Callazo fight before?

Floyd has brittle hands and Hatton has a good set of whiskers, plus a great punch output its almost like a sniper rifle versus a shotgun. Great contrast in styles.

If I were forced to make an early prediction... it would be PBF by TKO. I dont think Ricky's brow could stay intact for 12 rounds.

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shame. If Collazo beats Hatton :(

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he won't, im guessing you've seen Callazo fight before?

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Many times. And I think Hatton should be very careful. This guy isn't spectacular in any particular thing, but the things he does is enough to beat Hatton if Ricky isn't careful. He seems to have peaked against MAG that was a brutal beating and that image in my head I don't want to happen to Ricky Hatton where every inch of his body is red and bruised. Collazo doesn't have one punch power, but he has stinging power and Ricky is prone to cutting so I'm worried for Ricky in this fight, that plus it's the first natural welterweight he is fighting. Ricky should be in for a rough night. if he isn't I will be shocked.

Never, ever underestimate the British Bulldog mentallity. ;D ;D ;D

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shame. If Collazo beats Hatton :(

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he won't, im guessing you've seen Callazo fight before?

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Ricky is prone to cutting so I'm worried for Ricky in this fight

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lol, that's a first.......i never realised you were a fan ;)

Well i still think PBF cuts Hatton up too bad. Although i agree he is no "Sugar" Ray Leonard.

Ok folks, take all of what hobson said with a pinch of salt, remember he's a promoter at the end of the day, and in my opinion he's doing a great job so far. He's got americans talking for sure, and is getting a firm backing from the hatton faithful.

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[b]Hatton fancies Mayweather job!


Hobson said: "I think sometimes we undersell ourselves as Britons."

I think what he meant was that he had a hell of a time selling himself over here in the states as a Briton.

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It's a british thing mate, stiff upper lip and all that. I guess it's like you americans with your patrioticness (terrible english I know). I really don't get it.

I think Hatton is definitely getting in over his head. I hate to keep bringing up the Gotti fight but It could be worse. I don't think Ricky has the heart like Gotti.

I really hope Floyd-Hatton happens in the UK.
Hatton loves the home crowd and Floyd excels playing the role of the bad guy.
I think Floyd-Hatton in Britishlandia would be a crackin' good time!

to be honest i think hatton could very well be the man to push floyd to the limits....hattons style is all wrong for PBF and eventually hatton is gonna get through, pin him to the ropes and unleash upon him....how floyd reacts to this relentless hunting and stalking after feeling a sting or 2 is anybodies guess....

zab took his foot off the pedal way too early and allowed floyd to make adjustments and thus have his own way....hatton is just gonna keep on coming and he wont stop throwing...

floyd is a great fighter, but he wont be able to evade hatton forever, if hatton doesnt cut too much (a big if) then he can take floyd to the wire and inflict punishment we've never seen floyd take before...hatton could very well win it....

PBF is no superman....

it's all right for PBF.

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to be honest i think hatton could very well be the man to push floyd to the limits....hattons style is all wrong for PBF and eventually hatton is gonna get through, pin him to the ropes and unleash upon him....how floyd reacts to this relentless hunting and stalking after feeling a sting or 2 is anybodies guess....

zab took his foot off the pedal way too early and allowed floyd to make adjustments and thus have his own way....hatton is just gonna keep on coming and he wont stop throwing...

floyd is a great fighter, but he wont be able to evade hatton forever, if hatton doesnt cut too much (a big if) then he can take floyd to the wire and inflict punishment we've never seen floyd take before...hatton could very well win it....

PBF is no superman....

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I think the speed difference between Floyd and Hatton is what it'll mainly come down to.
How is Ricky gonna deal with someone who doesn't stand in front of him all night like Tszyu did?
Zab's speed was the main thing that gave Floyd problems early on Saturday.
It wasn't Zab's relenting pressure or anything.
Zab showed great quickness early on.
Hatton doesn't come close to that kind of speed.

In all fairness, you could also say that Floyd's style is all wrong for Hatton as well.
Floyd didn't look spectacular early on with Zab doing work in the early rounds.
One could counter that by saying Hatton didn't look spectacular against Maussa early on with Maussa's movement.
But both guys buckled down and showed why they're the best men in the ring in their fights.

This fight is gonna be the big friggin' one.
But I truly believe with all nine of my hearts that it'll come down to Floyd's superior speed being the factor for a UD Floyd win.

First the Judah nuthuggers, now the Hatton nuthuggers. Like I promised the Judah fans before the fight, I will also make a special thread for the Hatton fans when PBF cuts him up. Hatton does have a chance more than anyone right now but it won't be enough. As far as the Hatton fans (Smashup and co.) that say PBF will get ran over, I will torment you when Hatton gets whooped.

i suppose im more realistic when it comes to appraising the chances of a boxer i like. i admit the possibility of defeat if i actually think my fighter has a serious chance of losing. its the dividing line between reason and actually being a fan. i acknowledge that PBF is a fight that can very well go either way.

zab did mange to trouble PBF in the early rounds with his speed, but thereafter retreated into a defensive posture. okay, zab's speed helped him a lot but another top fighter has also given PBF problems before. i distinctly recall castillo given PBF a very difficult time in their first fight. he didnt give PBF problems because of his blinding speed either. for this reason hattons inferior speed to PBF is not the deciding factor for me. a slower fighter than him can still compete. hatton has a workrate comparable to nobody at the moment. he doesnt stop. i cannot envision PBF boxing and moving non stop for 12 rounds. it wont happen. he has faced noone he can keep up the pressure like hatton. and okay, hatton might eat a few on the way in, but it wont be enough to stop hatton. hatton is gonna work on that body, and with more frequency as the fight wears on. i dont think floyd can hurt hatton. hatton with accumulation ins gonna slow down floyd and he will have a much more level playing field come the championship rounds...

okay, on the other hand, maybe floyd will break hatton down with a perfect display of boxing, but is that realistic? perhaps not. PBF will have problems. more problems than zab could summons up. hatton will have no incentive to stop throwing. he doesnt look to survive. he looks to take his opponent to the limits.

i say hatton can win, but as a pragmatist and as a boxing man, i know it can go the other way...

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i admire the confidence in Hatton, he knows the mistakes Zab made and will not do that himself.

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Good point, but Floyd will fight Hatton totally different than he did Zab. Floyd knows what mistakes Tszyu made, and won't make the same mistakes.

Both are smart fighters. But if Hatton underestimates Floyd, he will lose.

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i agree....it will be a totally different fight but let's just hope that Hatton dosen't lose heart and decides to stop fighting. Ive seen too many fighters do that before.

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And when has Gatti lost heart and stop fighting? He didn't even against ODLH... He has more heart than Hatton IMO... its just too much fighting Mayweather... you'll see.

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Well obviously, Hatton will have to find a way to get inside and rough Floyd up..
Gatti didn't, he looked like he was outboxing him and he got bashed up from the outside all night long

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How will he get in when PBF will counter every attempt to get in he tries?

I'm not a PBF fan (I might be soon), I like his style though. It's just not a realistic scenario for Hatton to beat PBF right now.

And what's with all this "getting to PBF's body"? PBF's reflexes won't allow you to throw more than 2 or 3 body punches at a time. He will counter the life out of Hatton (or Margarito for his respective fans) if Hatton tries that uncontrolled body attack that works so well on C+ fighters.

I'm not counting out Hatton by any means.
I mean if Floyd does ANY of that laying on the ropes shat like he did against guys like N'Dou, Hatton WILL punish him. Badly.

But why can't you envision Floyd boxing and moving for 12 rounds?
I don't believe this fight will come down to a battle of stamina and attrition.
Both guys are supremely conditioned athletes. So if either of these guys go into the fight thinking the other guy will tire will end up losing the fight on that pipe dream.

The Castillo fight is gonna haunt Floyd forever. Because he didn't look spectacular in that fight.
But Ricky didn't look great against Maussa in the first few rounds of their fight.
I mean there was no way Maussa was ever gonna win that fight in a million years, but Ricky was visibly a little frustrated with his movement early.
Yeah, I'm kind of digging to find holes in Hatton's game, but I gotta counter something against that Castillo fight of four years ago.

So my question is, if Maussa can give Hatton some problems with movement, what's he gonna do against a fighter like Floyd who is LEAGUES higher in class/speed/agility/reaction than Maussa and also CAN keep up that kind of movement for 12 rounds while throwing better shots than Maussa in return?

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I'm not counting out Hatton by any means.
I mean if Floyd does ANY of that laying on the ropes shat like he did against guys like N'Dou, Hatton WILL punish him. Badly.

But why can't you envision Floyd boxing and moving for 12 rounds?
I don't believe this fight will come down to a battle of stamina and attrition.
Both guys are supremely conditioned athletes. So if either of these guys go into the fight thinking the other guy will tire will end up losing the fight on that pipe dream.

The Castillo fight is gonna haunt Floyd forever. Because he didn't look spectacular in that fight.
But Ricky didn't look great against Maussa in the first few rounds of their fight.
I mean there was no way Maussa was ever gonna win that fight in a million years, but Ricky was visibly a little frustrated with his movement early.
Yeah, I'm kind of digging to find holes in Hatton's game, but I gotta counter something against that Castillo fight of four years ago.

So my question is, if Maussa can give Hatton some problems with movement, what's he gonna do against a fighter like Floyd who is LEAGUES higher in class/speed/agility/reaction than Maussa and also CAN keep up that kind of movement for 12 rounds while throwing better shots than Maussa in return?

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hatton is slower than mayweather, but that doesnt make mayweather unhittable. he can be hit and will be hit. ive heard people comparing hatton and gatti, which for me is just ludicrous. hatton is a far superior boxing article to arturo gatti (as much as i love to watch gatti fight). hatton is a constant pressure fighter and its not so easy to move and pick your punches when the guy is CONSTANTLY on you...hatton is more of a pressure fighter than castillo and throws a lot more leather. there is no reason why hatton cant stalk his prey with intelligence. corner his man, cut off room for movement. it doesnt matter how fast mayweathers ands are or his legs for that matter because once he's on the ropes then he's gonna have to dig in. he cant hurt hatton, but im sure hatton can hurt him. with a constant pressure fighter like hatton, PBF is bound to make some mistakes. its not easy to think when you are being given no opportunity to do so....

mayweather is beatable, hatton just very well may have the style to get PBF once and for all. its been 4 years since castillo did a decent attempt, but i dont think he won the first fight....hatton though can potentially do a little bit better....

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shame. If Collazo beats Hatton :(

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he won't, im guessing you've seen Callazo fight before?

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Many times. And I think Hatton should be very careful. This guy isn't spectacular in any particular thing, but the things he does is enough to beat Hatton if Ricky isn't careful. He seems to have peaked against MAG that was a brutal beating and that image in my head I don't want to happen to Ricky Hatton where every inch of his body is red and bruised. Collazo doesn't have one punch power, but he has stinging power and Ricky is prone to cutting so I'm worried for Ricky in this fight, that plus it's the first natural welterweight he is fighting. Ricky should be in for a rough night. if he isn't I will be shocked.

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I have seen this kid fight 3 times, Hatton will pound him, this guy is very light fisted Hatton has picked an opponent who he will run through he will stop him around 7/8.

Who is the quickest slickest fighter Hatton has faced yet?
I admit I've only seen about a dozen or so Hatton fights where he's looked very reckless but his opponents all just kind of sit there and take it in each of them.
I'm trying to get a better feel of how he performs against a quick fighter.
So who's his slickest opponent to date?
Sure he could take a shot and give it back. I'm not taking that from him.
But how does he deal with speed and movement?
I've seen him look spectacular against slower guys who stand there and take it.
And I've seen him look frustrated when Maussa moved.

Whereas I've watched every Floyd fight multiple times.
So from what I've seen, I need to put my money on Floyd.
Unless someone could point me in a direction of a fight where Ricky is up against a quick slick fighter.

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shame. If Collazo beats Hatton :(

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he won't, im guessing you've seen Callazo fight before?

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Many times. And I think Hatton should be very careful. This guy isn't spectacular in any particular thing, but the things he does is enough to beat Hatton if Ricky isn't careful. He seems to have peaked against MAG that was a brutal beating and that image in my head I don't want to happen to Ricky Hatton where every inch of his body is red and bruised. Collazo doesn't have one punch power, but he has stinging power and Ricky is prone to cutting so I'm worried for Ricky in this fight, that plus it's the first natural welterweight he is fighting. Ricky should be in for a rough night. if he isn't I will be shocked.

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That's exactly how someone i know who's seen him fight explained it to me ;)
"Hattons world could come crashing down" were his exact words.
Thinking Ricky will be so fired up for this one though,being his US debut and all that.
I expect Hatton to Dominate him from the off and severly batter him into a heap.
Let's not forget that this is Ricky Hatton were talking about.
One of the fittest andmost ressuring fighters on the planet.
It's hard to stick to any sort of tactics when someone is in your face and all over you like a rash. ;)
Hatton TKO round 5/6 8)