Canelo vs Crawford getting closer..... (wink, wink)

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2025/01...o-vs-crawford/

"Boxing’s First Real Mega-Fight In Ages: Canelo Vs. Crawford!"



I'm presuming the article title is tongue-in-cheek. :D

"Boxing's First Real Mega-Fight in Ages"

Right. :D

They've certainly been dancing around this one long enough. Whether it happens or not is beside the point. The fact it's even being contemplated is wonderful, IMO.

"Wonderful"?? Yep. That's what I said.

Wonderful because it might be the cherry on top of the ice cream that has been Canelo's career as of late. :D

I hope it happens.

I'd be curious as to the particulars, though.

Would it be at 168? If so, I'd advise Crawford to begin a steady diet of Clenbuterol beef. Maybe Canelo can steer him (excuse the pun) to some choice slaughterhouses.

I noticed the proposed fight date is September 13th.

Good thinking. At least Crawford will still be 37. Won't be 38 till a couple of weeks later, so that might take some of the sting out of the age criticism for Canelo.

I can't wait for the hype for this one... and all the gullible casuals and Canelo groupies who will swallow up the hype like hungry, tainted cows feeding from a trough.

:D

I like Crawford and glad he is making big money and this is a very high profile event.

Crawford is an elite boxer who is really unappreciated and should be a higher profile mainstream name in the world.

Bud will give it his all and has nothing to lose.

I like Crawford too.

But I see this event for what it really is: one guy ducking his one true dangerous opponent... and another guy wanting a little limelight before calling it quits on his career.

Me... I'd rather not be bothered with hype about a 168-pounder who has even wanted to fight for a bogus cruiserweight title, fighting against a bloated 147-pounder, on whom the jury is still out whether he can even carry his power over to 154.

Meanwhile, the true challenge to this protected diva has been sitting, stewing in his own disappointment... while Ginger fans give the diva a pass for ignoring him.

But alas... boxing has truly changed.

Bring on the 3-ring circus.

They will hype this fight but a win by Canelo is expected and his record for his last few fights clearly show that he is not taking on the most dangerous fighters and is retiring very soon.

I can see Canelo moving onto the you tube circuit next.

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one guy ducking his one true dangerous opponent...

Meanwhile, the true challenge to this protected diva has been sitting, stewing in his own disappointment...

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who are you talking about here?

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one guy ducking his one true dangerous opponent...

Meanwhile, the true challenge to this protected diva has been sitting, stewing in his own disappointment...

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who are you talking about here?

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I can see Crawford being criticised for not taking Ennis at whatever weight suits them. Ideally that would be a good warm up for Crawford before September but business reasons means he will not take the risk.

Oh I'm not criticizing Crawford at all. He just wants in on the Cash Cow bonanza before the diva retires. Fact is... any underweight champion with a name to offer is a likely candidate (and beneficiary) of this farewell circus tour. Back when common sense prevailed, boxing fans would've scoffed at the idea of Crawford vs Ginger. Now it's a serious possibility. Is it any less likely that we could go even further in the weight disparity matchups? Hey.... Inoue is still out there.

Ugh. Man. Not keen on this spectacle event at all. Struggling with Crawford as a fan as he walks towards the sunset. I think in a way he's shortchanging himself with the division leapfrogging to a place at 38 years old we all know will be, very very likely, his career finale either way. I think he's peaked out as far as size and showed some signs of it with Madrimov and his complete reluctance to make huge fights with very competitive fellow champs and challenges at 154 irks me. Always always favor an elite fighter cleaning divisions and both guys here are just jumping at the lotto grab. And Canelo will get zero respect for beating another literally blown up jr middle and he shouldn't. Manufactured diversion type names for sake of names event for me.

Turki basically confirmed that the fight would happen in September.

LMAO. Social media is boiling over with speculation over who wins between Canelo and Crawford.

Same ol same ol. All this does is legitimize the fight, and give the illusion that Canelo is actually looking for challenges. Isn't anybody else tired of this M.O.? This fukker has pulled the wool over the collective eyes of boxing for decades now. Stacks the deck in all his fights... and grooms his pretty boy image more carefully than an aging movie actress.

At first I would go into the posts and put my comments. But it soon became clear that this is like the start of a landslide. Nothing and no one is going to stand in its way. By the time the fight rolls around... the boxing world will be fawning over this B.S. fight like it's some kind of Fight of the Millenium or some crazy shit like that.

Gotta hand it to this coddled diva. He's a marketing genius.

how you beat canelo is you freeze him then you pull him. terence crawford is a lot smaller than canelo but he can do that pretty good.

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how you beat canelo is you freeze him then you pull him. terence crawford is a lot smaller than canelo but he can do that pretty good.

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He's had exactly one opponent at 154, and couldn't put him away. He had a string of 11 straight knockout wins, including the last 8 at welter.... yet somehow didn't bring his power to super welter.

Now he's being asked to fight a guy with an iron chin at 168.

Remember Amir Khan?

This is going to be similar to that, except that Bud will be more wily and cautious... either lasting longer than the six rounds Khan survived against Canelo... or surviving the entire borefest, like the other undersized dude, Jermell Charlo, did back in 2023.

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Turki basically confirmed that the fight would happen in September.

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Some chatter about both taking in between fights. I swear I see Canelo fighting Scull...for the trinket he dropped because he was initially required to fight Scull to keep ;D. Just speaks to how empty some belts can be. Saw Derevyanchenko as a possibility for Bud. Being honest...should Crawford do a proper step up and cruise a long in the tooth but always a stern test in Derv, it would be a literal step in the right direction. Still not big at all on leapfrogging divisions and leaving tons of work undone.

They’ve determined no rehydration clause so it will be legendary if Crawford can pull it off, meaningless if Canelo wins

Amazing looking back at Floyd making Canelo easy work. Has it been long enough that the haters can acknowledge what Floyd did yet?

When Canelo is the heavy one, there's no rehydration clause.

When he's the lighter one, there is.

If this doesn't classify as Chickenshit 101... I don't know what does.

I'm not a Floyd hater.

But let's not make his embarrassing shutout whitewashing of Canelo into more than it is.

Canelo didn't belong in the ring with Floyd. It's just that Canelo's legions of groupies demanded it, and there was money to be made.

All Floyd did was put an exclamation mark on the sentence I've just bolded.

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When Canelo is the heavy one, there's no rehydration clause.

When he's the lighter one, there is.

If this doesn't classify as Chickenshit 101... I don't know what does.

I'm not a Floyd hater.

But let's not make his embarrassing shutout whitewashing of Canelo into more than it is.

Canelo didn't belong in the ring with Floyd. It's just that Canelo's legions of groupies demanded it, and there was money to be made.

All Floyd did was put an exclamation mark on the sentence I've just bolded.

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If Canelo can’t be worthy of a fight with Floyd when he was 23, a World Champion a weight above, with a 40 odd-0 record and Floyd was 37, then he never would have been.

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When Canelo is the heavy one, there's no rehydration clause.

When he's the lighter one, there is.

If this doesn't classify as Chickenshit 101... I don't know what does.

I'm not a Floyd hater.

But let's not make his embarrassing shutout whitewashing of Canelo into more than it is.

Canelo didn't belong in the ring with Floyd. It's just that Canelo's legions of groupies demanded it, and there was money to be made.

All Floyd did was put an exclamation mark on the sentence I've just bolded.

;)

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If Canelo can’t be worthy of a fight with Floyd when he was 23, a World Champion a weight above, with a 40 odd-0 record and Floyd was 37, then he never would have been.

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Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!

BINGO!!

Welcome to my world. :cool:

Fact is he never WAS.

Proven by what Floyd himself once called the easiest fight of his career.




Oh... let's not even get started on what Canelo's "40-odd and zero" record actually meant.

(Hint: diddly squat)

so in your opinion titofan did floyd cherry pick against canelo?

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so in your opinion titofan did floyd cherry pick against canelo?

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Yeah he did. Sure... Canelo's ignorant and adoring public clamored for it. Stupidly thinking Canelo was in the same galaxy as Floyd. But Floyd KNEW Canelo wouldn't lay a glove on him. But hell... money's money, so what the hell.

Floyd happily took the easy fight and made millions humiliating Ginger.

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so in your opinion titofan did floyd cherry pick against canelo?

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Yeah he did. Sure... Canelo's ignorant and adoring public clamored for it. Stupidly thinking Canelo was in the same galaxy as Floyd. But Floyd KNEW Canelo wouldn't lay a glove on him. But hell... money's money, so what the hell.

Floyd happily took the easy fight and made millions humiliating Ginger.

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"But hell... money's money, so what the hell" exactly

if bud wins, would it be considered a better win than floyd's?

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if bud wins, would it be considered a better win than floyd's?

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What do you think?

:D



Personally, I think it would be a major upset of epic proportions.

A career 147-pounder whose only fight at 154 yielded a victory but no knockout. Against a 168-pounder who once wanted to fight for a bogus cruiserweight title, and could easily show up on fight night blown up to 180.

Ginger has a 3-year age advantage, not to mention one of the few qualities I give him... a very sturdy beard.

Chances for a Crawford knockout victory are slim and none... and slim just left the building. So Ginger can throw caution to the win, forget about defense, and stalk Crawford down. Think Amir Khan, but at a higher weight.

So you figure it out.

:D

Nelo gotta get thru Jake fkn Paul first :lolhaha::lolhaha: Dear god. I'm even embarrassed for Canelo.

https://i.imgur.com/NeTmvtu.jpeg

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Nelo gotta get thru Jake fkn Paul first :lolhaha::lolhaha: Dear god. I'm even embarrassed for Canelo.

https://i.imgur.com/NeTmvtu.jpeg

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as a great boxing casual once said "money's money, so what the hell"

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Nelo gotta get thru Jake fkn Paul first :lolhaha::lolhaha: Dear god. I'm even embarrassed for Canelo.

https://i.imgur.com/NeTmvtu.jpeg

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What a challenge... :lol:

I'll be rooting like hell for the YouTuber, though. :D

I heard the Canelo v Crawford fight is off. Saul must be upset about something.

Mexican superstar Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez has agreed a four-fight deal with Saudi Arabia's Riyadh Season to set up a super-fight with American Terence Crawford in September.

Alvarez, 34, will fight in Saudi for the first time in May, before facing Crawford in September and then competing in two more Saudi-organised bouts in 2026.

"The deal is done," Turki Alalshikh, chairman of Saudi Arabia's general entertainment authority, posted on X, external on Thursday.

Four-weight world champion Alvarez, who holds the WBA, WBC and WBO super-middleweight titles, replied, external: "Let's go brother."

Negotiations for the blockbuster Alvarez-Crawford bout had appeared to have broken down earlier on Thursday. It is understood Alvarez was instead in conversations to fight YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul in May in a separate deal.

But Alvarez, who has won 62 of his 66 professional fights, performed a U-turn late on Thursday following further talks with Alalshikh.

Crawford is the first man to have been undisputed in two weight classes.

The 34-year-old – who is the WBA light-middleweight champion – has won all 41 pro bouts, but will be an underdog against the much heavier Alvarez.

"I'm waiting on Canelo in September and going to shock the world in Riyadh Season," Crawford posted on X.

It was on. It was off. A YouTuber was thrown into the mix. But after the high drama of the past 24 hours, a deal for the biggest fight in boxing appears to be done.

Despite the Saudi hold over boxing, Alvarez – a fighter whose popularity transcends the sport - had so far resisted the advances of Alalshkih.

But now Alvarez v Crawford will undoubtedly become boxing's hot topic for the next seven months, one of the most anticipated and discussed bouts in recent history.

Both men are vastly experienced, incredibly talented and generational greats in their own right. The undefeated record lies with Crawford. Yet there is a huge disparity in weight, with Alvarez a fighter who has been a world champion at light-heavyweight and Crawford having to move up two divisions.

IBF champion William Scull is being touted as an opponent for Alvarez in May, giving the Mexican a chance to regain the belt and once again become undisputed at super-middleweight.

Crawford could then be presented with a legacy-defining opportunity to become a three-weight undisputed champion by challenging Alvarez. Unconfirmed reports suggest Alvarez-Crawford could take place in a Saudi-organised card in Las Vegas on 13 September.

The reaction would have been very different if a somewhat absurd Alvarez-Paul fight – which was reportedly going to be streamed on Netflix - had materialised. In his last fight, Paul outpointed a 58-year-old Mike Tyson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/a...s/cpqlpypxgzdo

sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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Being genuinely serious, I’m not sure if a 4 fight deal appeals more to Canelo than a 3 fight deal.
I’m struggling to think of 3 guys that Canelo is prepared to fight, let alone 4.

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sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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Being genuinely serious, I’m not sure if a 4 fight deal appeals more to Canelo than a 3 fight deal.
I’m struggling to think of 3 guys that Canelo is prepared to fight, let alone 4.

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Eubank, Hamzah, Crawford, Bivol, Benavidez are being considered.

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sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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Being genuinely serious, I’m not sure if a 4 fight deal appeals more to Canelo than a 3 fight deal.
I’m struggling to think of 3 guys that Canelo is prepared to fight, let alone 4.

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the rumour is the deal is worth around five hundred million. william scull will probably be first in may, bud next is september & then we'll have to wait & see after that

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sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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Being genuinely serious, I’m not sure if a 4 fight deal appeals more to Canelo than a 3 fight deal.
I’m struggling to think of 3 guys that Canelo is prepared to fight, let alone 4.

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Eubank, Hamzah, Crawford, Bivol, Benavidez are being considered.

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Uhh... it's Scull, a guy with all of 9 knockouts in 23 professional fights... and the 147-pounder who didn't carry his power to 154.

Bivol and Benavidez??

Yeah, right. And Mexico's gonna pay for that medieval border wall Trump wants to build.
(wink, wink)

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sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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Being genuinely serious, I’m not sure if a 4 fight deal appeals more to Canelo than a 3 fight deal.
I’m struggling to think of 3 guys that Canelo is prepared to fight, let alone 4.

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the rumour is the deal is worth around five hundred million. william scull will probably be first in may, bud next is september & then we'll have to wait & see after that

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This isn’t a dig at you because you’ve just come up with the info, which I appreciate. But that is shit value for money. After Scull (personally no problem with the fight). and Crawford , (again personal opinion ,not a fan of this fight, but plenty are) if there is no Bivol, Beterbiev or Benavidez, I can’t see who else is a worthy challenge for that money.
I’d be intrigued on yours , and anybody else’s thoughts on who the 3rd and 4th fights in the deal could be. Perhaps I should start a thread. Like I said, not having a dig at you, just curious.

Yeah hey... I can appreciate the love fest, but as usual I'll be the outlier here. I do have a problem with Scull. Ok, he's a title holder. Other than that, anyone take a look at his resume? Oh I forgot... that's taboo. We can call out shit on some occasions, just not others. How convenient to have a layup like Scull holding the other 168-pound belt.

Then comes a bloated Crawford, the ultimate challenge for Canelo.

Of course the Bivols and Beterbievs of the world will be given lip service. It would look bad if they weren't at least mentioned. But by that time Canelo's age will come up as an excuse, and the 4-fight farewell tour will be magically truncated to 2 fights.

Everyone else can ride the circus train if they want. I'll enjoy the view from the cheap seats.

I seriously forgot to mention Benavidez. LMAO!

I must've gotten conditioned (just like the rest of Canelo World) that David Benavidez doesn't actually exist.

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Yeah hey... I can appreciate the love fest, but as usual I'll be the outlier here. I do have a problem with Scull. Ok, he's a title holder. Other than that, anyone take a look at his resume? Oh I forgot... that's taboo. We can call out shit on some occasions, just not others. How convenient to have a layup like Scull holding the other 168-pound belt.

Then comes a bloated Crawford, the ultimate challenge for Canelo.

Of course the Bivols and Beterbievs of the world will be given lip service. It would look bad if they weren't at least mentioned. But by that time Canelo's age will come up as an excuse, and the 4-fight farewell tour will be magically truncated to 2 fights.

Everyone else can ride the circus train if they want. I'll enjoy the view from the cheap seats.

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Love Fest! I was just being a polite debater.😂 Scull is a champion , so the idea of becoming undisputed again is viable whether it be Canelo or anyone else. The Crawford fight is bollocks really. There are weight divisions for a reason.

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sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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Being genuinely serious, I’m not sure if a 4 fight deal appeals more to Canelo than a 3 fight deal.
I’m struggling to think of 3 guys that Canelo is prepared to fight, let alone 4.

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the rumour is the deal is worth around five hundred million. william scull will probably be first in may, bud next is september & then we'll have to wait & see after that

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This isn’t a dig at you because you’ve just come up with the info, which I appreciate. But that is shit value for money. After Scull (personally no problem with the fight). and Crawford , (again personal opinion ,not a fan of this fight, but plenty are) if there is no Bivol, Beterbiev or Benavidez, I can’t see who else is a worthy challenge for that money.
I’d be intrigued on yours , and anybody else’s thoughts on who the 3rd and 4th fights in the deal could be. Perhaps I should start a thread. Like I said, not having a dig at you, just curious.

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i'm not sure turki & the saudi's are at the point yet where they are worried about losing money. i could be wrong but i doubt they've turned a profit on any card they've put on yet. & if by some chance they have, it was lost on other cards. for the saudi's this is mainly pr work. turki might have long term interests in the sport but like the other sports they are picking up, i personally feel it's the novelty & added promotion of their nation. i say all that to highlight that there is a host of fighters that turki & canelo can bring out. as master mentioned chris eubank jr & hamzah sheeraz names have been brought up, jermall is still around, conor mcgregor wouldn't surprise me & if jake still wants to work with them who knows. we've seen turki happy to make tyson fury v francis ngannou so circus fights won't surprise me. i don't think the saudi's are interested in quality for their buck. if it was my money i would have done william scull in may to unify, because the artur v dmitry winner probably needs to defend the ibf or get stripped. christian mbilli, then the winner of artur v dmitry two after they defended the ibf so it would be undisputed v undisputed & david b as the final fight of the four but that's trying to take into account some of the boxing politics. taking out the politics & my money on the line i'm doing christian mbilli, david b, artur v dmitry winner & finally jai

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sounds like canelo used jake paul to get a better deal from turki, first it was a three fight deal on the table, then the bud fight looked off & the jake fight looked a go, then a last minute four fight deal was offered

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Being genuinely serious, I’m not sure if a 4 fight deal appeals more to Canelo than a 3 fight deal.
I’m struggling to think of 3 guys that Canelo is prepared to fight, let alone 4.

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the rumour is the deal is worth around five hundred million. william scull will probably be first in may, bud next is september & then we'll have to wait & see after that

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This isn’t a dig at you because you’ve just come up with the info, which I appreciate. But that is shit value for money. After Scull (personally no problem with the fight). and Crawford , (again personal opinion ,not a fan of this fight, but plenty are) if there is no Bivol, Beterbiev or Benavidez, I can’t see who else is a worthy challenge for that money.
I’d be intrigued on yours , and anybody else’s thoughts on who the 3rd and 4th fights in the deal could be. Perhaps I should start a thread. Like I said, not having a dig at you, just curious.

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i'm not sure turki & the saudi's are at the point yet where they are worried about losing money. i could be wrong but i doubt they've turned a profit on any card they've put on yet. & if by some chance they have, it was lost on other cards. for the saudi's this is mainly pr work. turki might have long term interests in the sport but like the other sports they are picking up, i personally feel it's the novelty & added promotion of their nation. i say all that to highlight that there is a host of fighters that turki & canelo can bring out. as master mentioned chris eubank jr & hamzah sheeraz names have been brought up, jermall is still around, conor mcgregor wouldn't surprise me & if jake still wants to work with them who knows. we've seen turki happy to make tyson fury v francis ngannou so circus fights won't surprise me. i don't think the saudi's are interested in quality for their buck. if it was my money i would have done william scull in may to unify, because the artur v dmitry winner probably needs to defend the ibf or get stripped. christian mbilli, then the winner of artur v dmitry two after they defended the ibf so it would be undisputed v undisputed & david b as the final fight of the four but that's trying to take into account some of the boxing politics. taking out the politics & my money on the line i'm doing christian mbilli, david b, artur v dmitry winner & finally jai

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Jai? Fucking hell that’s a stretch. But we shall see.

that's if it was my dime & no politics

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Yeah hey... I can appreciate the love fest, but as usual I'll be the outlier here. I do have a problem with Scull. Ok, he's a title holder. Other than that, anyone take a look at his resume? Oh I forgot... that's taboo. We can call out shit on some occasions, just not others. How convenient to have a layup like Scull holding the other 168-pound belt.

Then comes a bloated Crawford, the ultimate challenge for Canelo.

Of course the Bivols and Beterbievs of the world will be given lip service. It would look bad if they weren't at least mentioned. But by that time Canelo's age will come up as an excuse, and the 4-fight farewell tour will be magically truncated to 2 fights.

Everyone else can ride the circus train if they want. I'll enjoy the view from the cheap seats.

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Love Fest! I was just being a polite debater.😂 Scull is a champion , so the idea of becoming undisputed again is viable whether it be Canelo or anyone else. The Crawford fight is bollocks really. There are weight divisions for a reason.

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Canelo lives a charmed life... LMAO.

The Rocky Fieldings of the world keep falling in his lap. ;D Other than that, he goes to light heavy, targeting a bewilderingly meek Kovalev in a fight that left most pundits shaking their heads in disbelief... and Kovalev himself years later alluding to some eyebrow-raising circumstances under which the fight was held. Then he scurries back down (before having to face another light heavy)... and lo and behold there is the (at that point) undefeated Callum, who proceeds to obligingly (and maddeningly) fold like a lawn chair in front of Canelo.

168, of course, is Canelo's wheelhouse... and he's prospered there. No issue. Only that he keeps wanting to fight for bogus cruiserweight titles, but that's another story.

Here's the thing with Scull. Yes, he is a champion :rolleyes: No doubt about that. Hence my opinion that Canelo lives a charmed life. Here is a sitting duck with a 168 title who Canelo is sure to blow away with a KO victory. Something Canelo sorely needs to bolster the beating he's taken from his persistent ducking of Benavidez.

At least we agree on the Crawford fight. ;D