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This bout was going to be on an undercard but now is a main event this Sunday.
The fierce rivals are set to square off on Easter Sunday at the BP Pulse Live Arena in Birmingham after their inaugural encounter ended in controversial circumstances.
Ben Whittaker is working with Andy Lee who is his new trainer and that will help him develop and reach his potential.
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benny didn't want twelve rounds?
Have to think and/or hope Lee helps to ground Whitaker regarding all of the marvel comic meets Hong Kong Phooey nonsense. Let the natural talent rise.
It was never intended to be 12 rounds. That was an admin error by his promoter Shalom who had to cover the mistake with his own money. Still makes a good story to sell this matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Looks like this will be a good boxing event on Sunday.
Yeah but here’s the thing, ok it wasn’t meant to be 12 rounds, but so what? Why kick up such a big fuss?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt was never intended to be 12 rounds. That was an admin error by his promoter Shalom who had to cover the mistake with his own money. Still makes a good story to sell this matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Looks like this will be a good boxing event on Sunday.
On one hand this guy wants us to think he is elite or moving towards elite.
But on the other hand he wants 10 rounders rather than the championship distance.
Now you will turn around and say “who says he’s bothered?” Well the very fact that there is such a load of bollocks about it is proof of that.
Whittaker was blowing after 6 rounds in the last fight when he was being pressured.
Now Whittaker will probably win. But if he wants people to believe he’s on the road to somewhere special , that is a fucking minimum requirement.
so what did liam's contract say? boxxer wouldn't have to be paying liam to accept ten rounds if his contract didn't say twelve rounds. stupid mistake. not ben's fault but it doesn't show much confidence from him after quitting in the first fight that he needs his promoter to pay his opponent to agree to less rounds. i expect ben to win but he should have just taken the fight over twelve & gone in the ring & won the fight, boxxer could have just paid him to accept twelve, like my original posts states, i guess benny didn't want twelve roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt was never intended to be 12 rounds. That was an admin error by his promoter Shalom who had to cover the mistake with his own money. Still makes a good story to sell this matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Looks like this will be a good boxing event on Sunday.
Ben is still a novice in the game and 10 rounds is sensible for him at this stage. No need to make an issue of it but it sells the fight as people are talking about it.
Cameron, who boasts 23 wins from his 31 scraps in the paid ranks, responded: "They paid me an absolute fortune.
"He could have called my bluff. I could have been wanting to do the ten all this time.
"I dreamed for these moments. How can I complain? I'm here, I'm ready, I'm in much better shape [than the first fight].
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"Let the games begin in the ring now. I've given myself the best opportunity.
"I've put myself in a frame of mind, a mental state, where I'll be scared.
"I'll be that scared dog in the changing room and that brings the best out of me. It's been magical and we're going to put on a big show."
"Last night I got told it was eight," Whittaker joked. "It's an eight rounder if I'm honest.
"I don't know what the rounds are. Seriously though we've worked really hard.
"We've done so many rounds and we'll see."
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excuses. sounds like you & benny both don't want twelve rounds. there was an issue, liam had a contract for twelve rounds. i can't emphasis how stupid a mistake that is from boxxer. it looks even worse that they had to pay liam to accept ten rounds instead of stepping up & fighting over twelve, especially after quitting in the first fight. whatever happens from here it will always be known that benny didn't fancy the fight over twelveQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
It really is not a big issue that people are making about going 12 rounds. Ben is only 9 fights into his career. The championship rounds can wait. Ben is with Andy Lee and needs time to work with him and grow.
You really don’t get it do you? The issue isn’t whether or not he could or should do 12 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The issue is why his side , whether him, whether the promotion team, whatever, kicked up such a big deal about it that they had to pay “an absolute fortune” to quote Cameron to correct it.
The stupid thing is , if Shalom had said “fair enough, 12 it is.” Common sense would have prevailed without the drama.
Not a good look.
The only person making an issue of it is Cameron. It was an error by the promoter and he has paid up. Even if Ben said ok with the 12, Cameron would still have said look what we have forced them to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou really don’t get it do you? The issue isn’t whether or not he could or should do 12 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The issue is why his side , whether him, whether the promotion team, whatever, kicked up such a big deal about it that they had to pay “an absolute fortune” to quote Cameron to correct it.
The stupid thing is , if Shalom had said “fair enough, 12 it is.” Common sense would have prevailed without the drama.
Not a good look.
It really is a non issue.
1. I think team Cameron were justified to make an issue of it, they made good dollar out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe only person making an issue of it is Cameron. It was an error by the promoter and he has paid up. Even if Ben said ok with the 12, Cameron would still have said look what we have forced them to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou really don’t get it do you? The issue isn’t whether or not he could or should do 12 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The issue is why his side , whether him, whether the promotion team, whatever, kicked up such a big deal about it that they had to pay “an absolute fortune” to quote Cameron to correct it.
The stupid thing is , if Shalom had said “fair enough, 12 it is.” Common sense would have prevailed without the drama.
Not a good look.
It really is a non issue.
2. If Shalom had said ok with the 12, nobody would’ve give a fuck what Cameron said. Same as nobody gave a fuck when Whittaker kept Cameron waiting at the weigh in because he needed a shit.
3. It’s only an issue because of how team Whittaker dealt with it.
Tyler Denny wins on points quite easily. He is a true Brummie with that accent. His opponent Elvis is quite a character.
Frazer Clarke on next against the opponent Whyte recently beat?
Hope Clarke wins in good fashion after having his jaw broken by Wardley and being knocked out brutally in the first round.
First round ko thankfully for Clarke. He screamed in relief when it was stopped.
the issue is like i original said benny didn't want twelve roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe only person making an issue of it is Cameron. It was an error by the promoter and he has paid up. Even if Ben said ok with the 12, Cameron would still have said look what we have forced them to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou really don’t get it do you? The issue isn’t whether or not he could or should do 12 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The issue is why his side , whether him, whether the promotion team, whatever, kicked up such a big deal about it that they had to pay “an absolute fortune” to quote Cameron to correct it.
The stupid thing is , if Shalom had said “fair enough, 12 it is.” Common sense would have prevailed without the drama.
Not a good look.
It really is a non issue.
typical british stoppageQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
sam eggington gets a technical decision after the fight was stopped on cuts after the eighth round
Sam Eggington beat Cutler on points.
Always wonder what happened to @ryanman when Eggington fights.
Ben wins the first round with fast jabs.
benny get the stoppage in the second
Fucking Foster does it again. Should never have been stopped.
benny was expected to win the first fight before he quit, he was expected to win the rematch. like i said he should have just given liam the twelve rounds
yeah another early one but i was probably comingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Ben stops Cameron in the second round.
Everyone is telling Ben to calm down as he went over to the opposition corner and teased the trainer.
A lot of letting out his anger.
Ben is getting a lot of boos from the crowd.
Now compare this stoppage to Usyk-Fury I
They're stopping these fights the moment someone gets hurt, it´s ridiculous. Howard Foster and bad stoppages. Name a better duo. Corrupt scumbag ref he dived in the first chance he got
And shut up Coldwell and Macklin. Who you think your trying to fool ?
Check the ref's pockets. UK boxing will some become a non contact sport
This is boxing, you are going to get hurt. You have to work through it
Yeah it probably was. But it’s early in the fight and Cameron was all there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICyeah another early one but i was probably comingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
As far as Whittaker going over to Cameron’s corner, emotions were running high, probably a touch out of order, but no big deal . Kinda nice he showed some passion to be fair.
he looked to squat on the ropes, if the ref was worried should have called a knockdownQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYeah it probably was. But it’s early in the fight and Cameron was all there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICyeah another early one but i was probably comingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
As far as Whittaker going over to Cameron’s corner, emotions were running high, probably a touch out of order, but no big deal . Kinda nice he showed some passion to be fair.
it'd be nice if you posted your own thoughtsQuote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0
Definitely an early stoppage and sloppiness didn't help. Ben clumped him initially but followed up like his gloves were soaking wet. Weird having a card on Sunday, happy Easter and all that jazz.
Dalton Smith was on yesterday and the promoters are trying to work together and not do shows at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
This bout was going to be an undercard fight but because of the huge interest they made an event out of it. I guess Easter Sunday was a good day with the long weekend.
Glad Whitaker stopped that bitch. Should have broke his jaw and hurt him a bit too.
sounds like a very christian thing to say against someone involved in a sporting event. the only bitch is benny for quitting in the first fight & not accepting twelve roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Ben did mot quit he was injured and could not continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICsounds like a very christian thing to say against someone involved in a sporting event. the only bitch is benny for quitting in the first fight & not accepting twelve roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Ben does not have to accept 12 rounds if he does not want to. It was a destructive performance to show that it did not matter.
This is a good interview from Ben about being booed, his reaction after the win and 12 rounds.
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LOL... You mad Ben wiped the floor with that bum ass dude you guys were trying to hype up as some new monster. Glad he kicked his ass and resolutely too. GTFOH!! Should have broke his jaw like Wardley did Clarke. lolol...Quote:
Originally Posted by TICsounds like a very christian thing to say against someone involved in a sporting event. the only bitch is benny for quitting in the first fight & not accepting twelve roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
nah benny quit. he chose not to continue. benny does not have to accept twelve rounds but an elite fighter would have. it was not destructive. it was a typical british stoppage which is why benny should have accepted twelve rounds because it did not matterQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterBen did mot quit he was injured and could not continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICsounds like a very christian thing to say against someone involved in a sporting event. the only bitch is benny for quitting in the first fight & not accepting twelve roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Ben does not have to accept 12 rounds if he does not want to. It was a destructive performance to show that it did not matter.
why would i be mad? i considered the fight a mis-match the first time it was made. show me where i was trying to hype liam as some new monster, you're making things up liar. liam is a former middleweight, who already had five losses before being out of the sport for five years & had already lost to lyndon arthur in his comeback. benny didn't kick liams ass, the ref stopped the fight early. no need to want broken bones in a sporting eventQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaLOL... You mad Ben wiped the floor with that bum ass dude you guys were trying to hype up as some new monster. Glad he kicked his ass and resolutely too. GTFOH!! Should have broke his jaw like Wardley did Clarke. lolol...Quote:
Originally Posted by TICsounds like a very christian thing to say against someone involved in a sporting event. the only bitch is benny for quitting in the first fight & not accepting twelve roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja