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Ricky Hatton May lose
I've never seen Collazo fight, but people have told me that he's a very useful fighter. He's apparently a quick, slick southpaw who can give a dig and is training his ass off as I type. Plus, he's fought at welterweight almost 30 times.
Ricky Hatton has ONLY EVER LOST TO SOUTHPAWS! He had three legit losses in the amateurs - his first-ever loss came against a southpaw in the 1993 Junior ABA final, and he lost when he moved up to welterweight in 1996 against southpaw Jurgen Brahmer (lost twice to Brahmer in his only two fights at welterweight, Brahmer beat him in one round the first time). His amateur record is 76-4 because of a loss to a Russian fighter in Cuba at the Junior World's but that is considered the worst robbery in amateur boxing of the last 10 years, so that doesn't count. So his three legit losses in the amateurs were to southpaws.
Brahmer was a 5ft11 light-middleweight in reality, and Ricky has struggled with other tall fighters apart from Brahmer.. like when he was almost stopped against Gilbert Quiros in Detroit in his 20th pro fight in 2000, because Quiros was a tall fighter who had fought at light-middleweight - same with Collazo!
Ricky got dropped against southpaw Eamonn Magee in the first minute of the first round, and it was an awkward, close fight.
So there you go, just some food for thought.
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to be honest if ricky loses i will be very surprised....im fully expecting a hatton victory, though it may very well go the distance...a tricky fight for sure, but hatton at this stage is not gonna slip up...i just dont see it...
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i think hattons camp would have scouted collazo and left nothing to chance. but never seen collazo fight so you never know. Iwould expect ricky to come through cos he has bigger fish to fry
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This guy can't bang, for starters he is no World Champ i have seen his last three fights, he aint nothing special, he won the belt on two weeks notice which give him tremendous props for but he has fought no one near the same class as Ricky Hatton, this guy cant bang he is very light fisted, Hatton will wear him down 6/7 TKO.
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yeah 12 kos isnt much. thats why I fancy ricky to do it
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i never realised ricky had such trouble with southpaws. Dya think old "super ::**" Zab could trouble him being a slick southpaw?? ???
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
i never realised ricky had such trouble with southpaws. Dya think old "super ::**" Zab could trouble him being a slick southpaw?? ???
I think a 100% Judah for 12 rounds could be a difficult fight for Ricky, but Judah wouldnt know what to do with Ricky Hatton after 5 rounds in my opinion.
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All you Hatton fans are going to go nuts over this statement...but here goes:
The best thing for Hatton...as far as what American fans see...would be Hatton getting dropped.
If Hatton get's dropped, get's up, & turns the droppage around & guts it out then knocking Collazo out...he'd be the next best thing to Gatti...& we all know how Americans love Gatti & his Rocky-esque image.
Hatton could very well land loads of fans if he get's up off the canvas & turns it into a war.
Think about it.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
All you Hatton fans are going to go nuts over this statement...but here goes:
The best thing for Hatton...as far as what American fans see...would be Hatton getting dropped.
If Hatton get's dropped, get's up, & turns the droppage around & guts it out then knocking Collazo out...he'd be the next best thing to Gatti...& we all know how Americans love Gatti & his Rocky-esque image.
Hatton could very well land loads of fans if he get's up off the canvas & turns it into a war.
Think about it.
:coolclick:
Very true, 99% correct, noone likes to see a guy wear someone down with no drama. 1 problem Wacko..............
.......You got the fight wrong, thats whats happening when Ricky beats Floyd.
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Originally Posted by AC-Cobra
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
All you Hatton fans are going to go nuts over this statement...but here goes:
The best thing for Hatton...as far as what American fans see...would be Hatton getting dropped.
If Hatton get's dropped, get's up, & turns the droppage around & guts it out then knocking Collazo out...he'd be the next best thing to Gatti...& we all know how Americans love Gatti & his Rocky-esque image.
Hatton could very well land loads of fans if he get's up off the canvas & turns it into a war.
Think about it.
:coolclick:
Very true, 99% correct, noone likes to see a guy wear someone down with no drama. 1 problem Wacko..............
.......You got the fight wrong, thats wahts happening when Ricky beats Floyd.
hmmmmm..........
I like it Cobra :coolclick: ;)
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I really hope Ricky doesn't fucking lose :(
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
All you Hatton fans are going to go nuts over this statement...but here goes:
The best thing for Hatton...as far as what American fans see...would be Hatton getting dropped.
If Hatton get's dropped, get's up, & turns the droppage around & guts it out then knocking Collazo out...he'd be the next best thing to Gatti...& we all know how Americans love Gatti & his Rocky-esque image.
Hatton could very well land loads of fans if he get's up off the canvas & turns it into a war.
Think about it.
I did, and it's not the best thing for Hatton to do "career" wise, USA wise but not "career wise" othrwise he becomes another Morales.
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Originally Posted by Steelie
Cheers for that Steelie, it looks like the weight is coming off quick for Rick he is looking trimmer by the day.
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Originally Posted by WWatt
I've never seen Collazo fight, but people have told me that he's a very useful fighter. He's apparently a quick, slick southpaw who can give a dig and is training his a** off as I type. Plus, he's fought at welterweight almost 30 times.
Ricky Hatton has ONLY EVER LOST TO SOUTHPAWS! He had three legit losses in the amateurs - his first-ever loss came against a southpaw in the 1993 Junior ABA final, and he lost when he moved up to welterweight in 1996 against southpaw Jurgen Brahmer (lost twice to Brahmer in his only two fights at welterweight, Brahmer beat him in one round the first time). His amateur record is 76-4 because of a loss to a Russian fighter in Cuba at the Junior World's but that is considered the worst robbery in amateur boxing of the last 10 years, so that doesn't count. So his three legit losses in the amateurs were to southpaws.
Brahmer was a 5ft11 light-middleweight in reality, and Ricky has struggled with other tall fighters apart from Brahmer.. like when he was almost stopped against Gilbert Quiros in Detroit in his 20th pro fight in 2000, because Quiros was a tall fighter who had fought at light-middleweight - same with Collazo!
Ricky got dropped against southpaw Eamonn Magee in the first minute of the first round, and it was an awkward, close fight.
So there you go, just some food for thought.
Collazo is a southpaw who likes to turn, throw a combo and then repeat.
This will give Hatton loads of problems with his footwork and the way he angles himself up.
When Hatton comes in I see Collazo throwing a combo before Hatton gets close enough and then turning and repeating.
Collazo is no big puncher though, he just likes to out slick you.
You may recall that he fought against Miguel Angel Gonzalez on the Rahman vs. Barret undercard.
This will be an interesting fight.
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
All you Hatton fans are going to go nuts over this statement...but here goes:
The best thing for Hatton...as far as what American fans see...would be Hatton getting dropped.
If Hatton get's dropped, get's up, & turns the droppage around & guts it out then knocking Collazo out...he'd be the next best thing to Gatti...& we all know how Americans love Gatti & his Rocky-esque image.
Hatton could very well land loads of fans if he get's up off the canvas & turns it into a war.
Think about it.
I did, and it's not the best thing for Hatton to do "career" wise, USA wise but not "career wise" othrwise he becomes another Morales.
What's wrong with Morales?
Morales has had a great career. He's only been dropped by Pacquiao...
Morales is highly respected...even after getting stopped.
There's a lot of speculation with many U.S. fans as to whether or not Hatton is the real deal...just like there was speculation with Calzaghe.
Hatton will do fine...but he's got some winning over to do stateside before most American fan's put all their eggs in Hatton's basket.
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i hate to say it but it will probably be a dull fight with collazo getting rocked early and then holding for all the fight and hatton will win by UD.
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Dunno if Collazo has the right style to make Hatton look spectacular with,
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Hatton will probably kill this guy. For his introduction over here, I doubt they will pick someone he will lose to or look like crap against. We've been trained to never look further than a guys next fight from incidents like Zab losing to Baldomir.
But when they plan the fights though... Promoters and Network execs dont start at the beginning. They look at the biggest payday and work backwards... Hatton wears him down and knocks him out ... Everyone oohs and ahs .. and then the run towards floyd has begun...
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I really think Callazo can beat Hatton. He is much bigger and a tough guy to fight for your first Welterweight fight. I think that if it goes to points, Hatton will lose. Hattons nonstop body assault is his best chance stopping this guy
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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
For his introduction over here, I doubt they will pick someone he will lose to or look like crap against.
Collazo was the LAST choice opponent.
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I think when you hear and read Hatton's trainer,it seems he is a genuine guy and he points out that Ricky does not fare well against southpaws,tall rangy etc and he says it is going to be a tough fight. Heck,he sounds more confident when asked about Floyd than when asked about Collazo!
I don't think Collazo dropping Ricky would be a good thing,Ricky can make mst fights exciting anyway with his gung ho style without getting dropped and STArr,what do you mean by "becoming another Morales" Rinky would be lucky to be in the same company as that Mexican legend!!
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Originally Posted by WWatt
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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
For his introduction over here, I doubt they will pick someone he will lose to or look like crap against.
Collazo was the LAST choice opponent.
First, last or somewhere in between... The guy wouldnt have been in the pool of possible opponents if Ricky couldnt beat him and do it impressively. Hattons style is crowd pleasing and brutal and he's too hot of a commodity to let his fire get snuffed out before it even gets started. Very few managers and promoters are willing to take real chances these days on their cash cow getting beat before hes ripe. I think it has to do with truley great fighters coming around so few and far between these days.
Most management would sooner postpone claiming injury than put their big name with an undefeated record in against a guy who could beat him .. in his big debut infront of an expanded new market. The better ricky looks for this fight. The more new fans he'll make, the more T-shirts are sold, the more endorsement opportunities he might get, the more he'll be courted by the networks and the better his chances look against Mayweather.... Considering all of that, he stands to make a killing... I doubt they would take the chance to throw that all away on a guy like Collazo. I say Hatton brings power up with his weight and eventually catches and stomps a mudhole in Collazo dropping him a few times with a body attack. I'm not saying Collazo will try and be cooperative, but i'm saying for this fight... (if it was planned right)... Collazo's level of cooperation wont be a deciding factor.
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Your spot on about your assesment of Collazo, he might well of been his last hand picked opponent, but like the odds suggest i think Rick is 1/7 on, Collazo is no more than a gate keeper, if he was so dnagerous why did Ricky's shotlist not consist of Tony Margorito??
Collazo is a decent opponent about par with Carlos Maussa, he is a gate keeper and not a bad warm up to Rickys big entrance to the States, he will gradually up his opposistion each time he fights, hopefully Gatti or Castiio will be next then maybe Mayweather.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
Your spot on about your assesment of Collazo, he might well of been his last hand picked opponent, but like the odds suggest i think Rick is 1/7 on, Collazo is no more than a gate keeper, if he was so dnagerous why did Ricky's shotlist not consist of Tony Margorito??
Collazo is a decent opponent about par with Carlos Maussa, he is a gate keeper and not a bad warm up to Rickys big entrance to the States, he will gradually up his opposistion each time he fights, hopefully Gatti or Castiio will be next then maybe Mayweather.
CC.. As fans, we love to see the fight side of it, but lets not forget whos been pulling the strings behind the fights ever since we can remember. Superstars commanding millions for a single fight against fake contenders, doesnt happen by accident. We have all been blinded into believeing some no hoper was the best comeptition for an undisputed champ and then snapped back to reality when the no hoper got totally annihilated. The promotors and the networks do a great job of marketing some fights... but to anyone whos been paying careful attention. Its not hard to recognize a hyped up sales pitch when we hear one.
For the offtimes when things dont go according to plan, there are new contracts waiting for the no hoper turned undisputed champion just in case. How many have we seen a guy like Don King promote some champion and then when he lost ... there was king standing behind the new champ smiling like he already has his hand in the guys pocket.
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Collazo is not a joke but he took a long time to break a shot Gonzalez down and he seems to fight at a pretty relaxed pace. I think a key factor is how the ref handles Hatton's bulling on the inside. If the fighters aren't broken too much I think Hatton will wear him down late
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hatton is looking to showcase himself and will impress to a stoppage in 7
