>:mad
HE IS THE #1 HW IN THE WORLD, AND WAS THE #2 WHEN LENNOX AND VITALI WERE BOTH ACTIVE (VITALI WAS #1)
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>:mad
HE IS THE #1 HW IN THE WORLD, AND WAS THE #2 WHEN LENNOX AND VITALI WERE BOTH ACTIVE (VITALI WAS #1)
I take nothing away from the man...
:)
you know there are people (the same people who would scream "byrd beat klitschko so he is the best in the world) who are gonna say, "wow, big deal, he beat byrd" >:mad
they make me angry >:mad
Agreed. A win is a win is a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN TAKING CREDIT AWAY FROM BIG VLADDY
Fantastic :D
No shat.. And the same people that were talking all that big for nothing Peter was going to knock him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
I think most people still remember the Brewster and Sanders fights as a way to measure Wlad's heart and skills, yet they forget he dominated Bryd in their 1st fight and destroyed Jamille McCline when everybody thought McCline was the next big thing in the heavyweight division.
Good point... :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic bull
He's not rated number one, and even old Lewis had he come in out of shape would have knocked Wlad out within 4. IN shape he would have beaten Wlad and Vitali in back to back weekends... if he fought Wlad first.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Keep dreaming because that is all you have, no facts just fiction. ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
:beat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
he barley got his freestyle out after being given a bigger gift then byrd got when he got a w over vitali ;)
If Wladimir was from the U.S.A. he would get a lot more credit, that is what makes me mad.It isn't U.S.A. against the world, it is the best against the best from around the world, appreciate the fighter for the fighter not where he is from!I am from the U.S.A. and where a fighter is from never enters my mind when rooting for someone, it has to due with who I think has the skills to be the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
him and judah gotta be the 2 most hated underated fighters today
i used to get pissed anout how people would treat vitali as a slugger with no style when he was EASILY as tactical as the "tactical marvel of style" chris byrd
Statements like that, do not help his case, as you well know ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
who do u think is #1,
also, what was that thing from a whlile ago, something i think like a 13th round for a draw?
???
Lewis was Champion from the moment he beat Briggs, until his retirement, minus the spell between the two Rahman fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Vitali and Wlad were both #1 contenders to Lewis at one time or another.
As for the 13 round thing, the NABF did a experiment in the late 80s, where if a fight was scored a draw, an extra round was boxed to decide the winner.
thats the thing :D
what do you think would have happened if vitalis cut was less severe?
I give Byrd credit for being a small guy in a big man's game. He's not great. I give Wlad credit for being one of the better fighters in a bankrupt division. He ain't great either.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
The whole damn situation is depressing. I hear people talking about him reviving the heavies. Just take a look at the record of the guy who is gonna do that.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=7035
It's just sad.
he only lost to sanders cuz he was countered early in the fight with a hard shot, and the ring was too small for him to stay away
and in the other losses it was a stamina issue
Oh, is that the only reason. So basically he lost because he couldn't handle the pressure, then he was out of shape. True signs of greatness.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
not even out of shape, he didnt bother boxing, he just threw punches and went for a KO
Reminds me of this big British/Canadian/Jamican fella ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
As for who would of won without the cut in Vitali/Lewis; I do not think anyone can answer that, it is like saying what if Frazier had not been knocked out by Foreman? What if Kirkand Laing had not walked into Buck Smith's right hand?
Lewis victory was by totally legit means, Vitali was cut up by Lewis' punches, and us Brits should know, after all many of our fighters have suffered the exact same type of defeat. You suck it up, accept your man was beaten, and hopefully see him comeback and redeem himself one day ;)
agreed Lewis beat Vitali by TKO which was the right decision, we talk about how refs let fights go to far, how bad would boxing have looked if that cut got even worse in the next couple of rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
and all this talk of what if, you could say the same about Ali v Cooper, would Cooper have won if it wasn't 4 the cuts? it doesn't matter cause the fact is he was cut!