I want to know who you guys think will win and why??
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I want to know who you guys think will win and why??
Freitas is going to knock him out, ive seen Raheem almost knocked out by a bum in one of his earlier fights. His chin is far from granite and Freitas is the man to test it whether he wins or losses.
I hope your right as I am a big fan of Popo until he met someone I liked even more...Chico Corrales! The problem is...has Freitas recovered? I have yet to see his last few fights since he has been back so can anyone fill me in? He needs to stop swinging like a wild man! I don't know much about Raheem except Rocky Juarez beat him up and his chin is questionable. I know he beat EM but honestly,EM was poor that night and said Raheem kept running away!!! Shows how prepared he was for that fight so I will reserve judgment on him. Freitas can crack so if Raheem has a poor chin,I'd say Freitas KO late and if Freitas loses,it could be the end for him! By the way,what weight is this fight??
They are fighting at lightweight for the WBO crown
Freitas should win. I like his chances.
Rocky Juarez did not, "beat him up".. I thought the decision was BS, besides Raheem was clearly weight drained at feather, and the ref took off almost 5 points in that fight, 3 of them were very very questionable, imo.. Raheem deserved to win that fight even though he was shit on that night.. And Juarez lost to some unknown next, now MAB is going to KO him ;).. But anyways this fight should be a good one, I pick Raheem to outbox him but his chin is a factor, and it hasn't been tested against this kind of puncher. Also Morales may have not prepared fully for Raheem, but if you watch the fight, it's also just a style nightmare for Morales, he is very clearly beat to the punch every time.. I don't think he could have ever beat Raheem on that night, being the bigger man.. And yeah that was funny Morales' post fight comments, he said something like "he didn't want to fight me, he just kept running".. I think Morales is lucky to have not faced more pure boxers as he clearly has realy issues with them, but that's just imo.
In this case the boxer will beat the puncher easily. I see Freitas in a different light now after he quit in the Corrales fight, i am not saying thats why he is going to lose but i have to also question his heart and desire.
Didn't Juarez knock him down a few times too?? As for Morales not fighting more boxers,well he used to be more of a boxer himself,then he thought he could KO everyone and went to war. He used to be a great great boxer puncher type and I think at his peak,he could beat Raheem. I have also heard that Raheem has been down 2-3 times earlier in his career,have not seen it myself though.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
did you see the fight? Raheem went to his corner after 2 rounds and told them "my legs are gone." because of the weight he had to lose. Then Juarez hit him with a big left hook and Raheem took it well, but he could barely able to walk around even BEFORE the shot landed so raheem took a knee and he was very clear, he got up and boxed and got screwed by the ref despite beating Juarez to the punch. The ref robbed Raheem that night. Juarez only got the knockdown point because Raheem took a knee because his legs were shot from the weight loss and that was in round 3. He took every other shot Juarez was able to land(and juarez only landed a few).
Raheem has a good chin. Morales hit him with some hard right hands Raheem took well.
Naw,did not get to see the fight....Still The_One said he was almost knocked out by a bum and I have heard he has been down quite a few times,surely not always due to the weight?
He was not ready and it was early in his career. Look at the times Freitas has been dropped. And it wasn't all the time by big punchers. And it was at the lower weights as well. Many fighters go down early in their career and turn out to have good chins. Raheem was a prospect when he was dropped and when it came down to the big moments his chin stood up, but Freitas has to hit him, and the trouble Popo had with anyone who boxed him he is in trouble. Raheem is a better puncher and faster and throws straighter punches then Barrios ;)
Raheem caught Morales on a bad night. He's not that good. Freitas should knock him out.
Baldomir caught Judah on a bad night ;)
Hatton caught Tszyu on a bad night.
Whenever a fighter fights down to his opponent its a "bad" night.
it's a fighters fault if they underestimate an opponent and Morales didn't underestimate Raheem. Raheem's style just frustrated Morales because for the first time in a long time a guy wouldn't stand in front of him and give him a target ;)
Raheem is the real deal, but he oonly beat Morales so badly because Morales simply isn't a lightweight. Raheem had a style that was bad for Morales anyways, even more so considering Morales being out of shape, slower and fighting a bigger man.
The interesting part of this fight is that both guys use a good bit of lateral movement. Raheem is better teachnically, but I'm almost certain he hasn't seen anyone like Freitas, defeintely not on this level. Raheem does have a questionable abilty to take a punch and as does Freitas...but I think we'll all agree that Freitas has a advantage in the power department.
I pick Freitas to get a tko victory in the 10th of a very competetive fight.
Freitas has been dropped by guys like Chico Corrales and Jorge Barrios and Raheem is not anywhere near as big a puncher as them is he? And anyway,look at what he did too Barrios when he got back up!
cc,that was EXACTLY my prediction,Freitas late,I have not seen Raheem enough but there would not be this much indifference about him if he was the real deal I guess and also,is he really slick enough to avoid contact for the whole 12 rounds given that Freitas has the lateral movement too. Freitas will be no stationary target either and combine that with the power and I think he will winQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMasterpiece
I can't see him catching Raheem personally... He is too slick and quick for Freitas.
The reason people are indifferent to Raheem is because he has only really had one big fight, plus he didn't look great against Juarez at 126, and everyone thinks that he just beat Morales because he wasn't prepared.. The thing is if Raheem isn't the real deal in your mind, then really your boy Margarito shouldn't be either ;)... It's no different they each have showed alot but just need to prove it at the top level, and you can say things against either of them based on average performances, but they dont really tell the tale.. Watch for Raheem to impress you in this one, im picking him to box his way to a clear UD. He really is fast and slick, I like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by The Game
He's a bigger puncher then Barrios.
Raheem, a heavier fast right handed harder punching version of Joel Casamayor but throws more punches ;) maybe that will help :)Quote:
cc,that was EXACTLY my prediction,Freitas late,I have not seen Raheem enough but there would not be this much indifference about him if he was the real deal I guess and also,is he really slick enough to avoid contact for the whole 12 rounds given that Freitas has the lateral movement too. Freitas will be no stationary target either and combine that with the power and I think he will win
Woah,bigger faster Casamayor?!? Im a Casamayor fan,and think he is VASTLY underrated,are you being serious? Does he really hit as hard as Barrios? If this is the case,I may have to re-evaluate my opinion. Im going to try to find some Raheem fights but still,1 thing,he's never fought anyone with the power of Frietas,I mean he can bang!!
It's different with Tony,I see a machine that cannot be stopped,and I think that most people at 147 see that too which would explain unwillingness to fight him but that's a different matter. Hmmm.I'm getting intrigued by Raheem. I still think that in the 1 round Erik came actually thought about it,round 11 I think,Raheem did not look comfortable at all.
But Morales couldn't take advantage in round 12. And Raheem won the 11th round other then the fact that Morales sent him across the slippery ring. And Morales only did what he did because he was frustrated. I also think Raheem is being trained by a Mayweather was trained by Floyd and now is trained by Jeff. But I'm not sure that Freitas could stand up to the kind of punches he hit Morales with. he also has a good jab ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Interesting...well,only a few days to go but I still just am not sure whether he can avoid Freitas who is just soo gangly and weird and unorthodox! Does anyone know if Freitas still swings wildly like he did against Corrales?
I would have to disagree, I think Barrios is a bigger puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
I also would have to disagree with you saying he hits harder than Casamayor..I even think Casamayor has more power.
Freitas is unorthodox but it only works on a fighter who doesn't jab him. Freitas can sway and bob all he wants but he needs to step forward to be effective, and when he steps forward Raheem will hit him with a jab. This could look like the Hamed barerra fight.
Hmm,but naz did not train for that fight and Raheem maybe slick but I don't think he can evade Freitas for the whole fight"
He won't need to. he just has to make Freitas come forward and hit him, coming forward is when Freitas is at risk also because HE NEVER KEEPS HIS HANDS UP!
aaaah,good observation,I recall that from the Corrales fight ESPECIALLY when he was tired,he was just bouncing around,pot shotting with his hands literally by his sides!!
exactly
Freitas should win this. More experience, he's bigger, good speed, and power.
If he doesn't, major, major props to Raheem.
hahaha,so Starr just persuaded me to see her way of things and then you come along with that!!! That is exactly what I thought but think about how lazy Freitas is at times etc It is certainly much closer than I originally thought BUT I'm still not sold on Raheem's ability to take Freitas blows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Raheem has fought at 154 before who's bigger ;) And Raheem is faster. And he keeps his hands up. Freitas doesn't keep his hands up and tires. And he will tire more when he misses punches. So Raheem will have a target all night and also remember Freitas has a weak body, he gets hurt whenever you dig his body ;)
Freitas weak body.....where did you see that?
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Its evident when you watch him. fighters nowadays just swing for his head, but whenever someone went to his body he slowed. I don't think he can take it to the body and raheem has a good straight right ot the body. Ever wonder why Freitas holds his hands the way he does, he protects his body.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Ok,so that is some next level of analysis that I am not on yet!!!?! Would CC for that but already clicked you! Smart. Explain 1 thing to me though,how many times has Raheem gone down??Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Freitas has pretty good boxing skills. His footwork is great. But fatigue gets him late in fights. I still think he'll do enough early on to win.
2 flash 1 knee 1 hard!!! The one knockdowns that was a flash was because he took a knee because his legs were done from Juarez I think he had a fight he went down twice but I don't remember it, but he always came back to win or stop his opponent that did it to him. Freitas has been down about 8 times though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Game
Yeah 8 times,4 against Chico though!!! ;) I'm sure Raheem has been down more times than that,where has the_One gone? I remember someone else saying it too but then again,it could be due to weight making,I mean Manny Pacquiao used to go down alot but since he has moved up in weight,I don't recall him going down!
A nice fight! I think freitas will have to score a early to mid round knock out. Raheem is kind of like De la hoya in that he will try to dance around freitas in the later rounds if he has success in the early rounds. Freitas will have to shorten up the punches and not try to swing too wild. Freitas by KO or Raheem by decision. I like Freitas by knock-out. Freitas is going to be hungry and wants to get back to the top and this will help his confidence out greatly!