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George Floyd murdered by cops
Saw this footage yesterday of this guy being pinned down face first with a knee in the back of his neck.
He repeatedly says "I can't breathe" but the cops just carry on and eventually kill him.
Shocking stuff.
https://youtu.be/lirHz93qJ50
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...nnesota-racist
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Fucking damn right. Fucking sickening.
And then peeps wanna say there should be no riots.
Martin Luther King: "The language of unheard voices is rioting."
Yeah, the Let Them Eat Cake crowd could never relate to that.
Oh wait, but if you ask them to wear a mask.....
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I don't think that officer acted appropriately, however, I've seen videos like this where extra context was added and stories changed dramatically due to that little extra context. I don't know of George Floyd, I don't know of previous run ins with the law, I don't know of how he was acting in this specific run in either.
It's a bad result and a bad look for the police.
But I'm sure rioting will be the cure which heals all wounds :rolleyes:
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- It's all on video.
- It's obvious that Floyd wasn't "resisting arrest."
- Floyd CLEARLY says he couldn't breathe.
- Floyd died as a result of this police brutality.
- Again..... it's all there in full color video.
So obviously this now entails a 12-month investigation before all the facts can be clarified and some sort of (insufficient) verdict handed down.
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TitoFan
- It's all on video.
- It's obvious that Floyd wasn't "resisting arrest."
- Floyd CLEARLY says he couldn't breathe.
- Floyd died as a result of this police brutality.
- Again..... it's all there in full color video.
So obviously this now entails a 12-month investigation before all the facts can be clarified and some sort of (insufficient) verdict handed down.
Is it ALL on this video though? It starts with George Floyd on the ground under that officer's knee.
Don't confuse my stance with supporting the officer sitting on that guy's neck though. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
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Don’t ever ever ever fall for the false narrative that police who kill unarmed Black victims because they “lack police training”. These people have PERFECT training on how to deescalate situations as long as the suspects are WHITE
https://youtu.be/7Do9WCYYAd8
That fake mayor of Minneapolis with his fake concern STILL made sure the national guard were protecting the killer cop outside his home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUs6KGCcWpg
He’s no longer on the force so why are they still defending him ? Waste of taxpayers dollars. The thin blue line has just gotten a lot thicker and sicker. As I've always said white supremacists stay on code.
People on the ground in Minnesota are saying there are a lot of white undercover cops doing a lot of the vandalizing and arson out there. But all of it gets blamed on Black people. They caught this guy red handed with a hammer in his hand
Yeah it's totally normal to be walking around with an umbrella and gas mask on and he didn't answer when asked if he was a cop. This will be their excuse to mobilize armed guards. They did this in Detroit back in the day to get the National Guard deployed. It is an old trick that they use. Agent provocateurs to the max. It happens at a lot these kind of protests. The goal is to discredit the protesters as "looting thugs." Thereby no has to listen to their pleas for justice.
Another thing
The police are not scared of black people
That's the go to excuse they use to kill us
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
- It's all on video.
- It's obvious that Floyd wasn't "resisting arrest."
- Floyd CLEARLY says he couldn't breathe.
- Floyd died as a result of this police brutality.
- Again..... it's all there in full color video.
So obviously this now entails a 12-month investigation before all the facts can be clarified and some sort of (insufficient) verdict handed down.
Is it ALL on this video though? It starts with George Floyd on the ground under that officer's knee.
Don't confuse my stance with supporting the officer sitting on that guy's neck though. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
No. It starts before that.
There is video of Floyd already handcuffed and being led around by a police officer. In no way shape or form is the guy even remotely close to "resisting arrest", the go-to excuse for all police murders nowadays.
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TitoFan
No. It starts before that.
There is video of Floyd already handcuffed and being led around by a police officer. In no way shape or form is the guy even remotely close to "resisting arrest", the go-to excuse for all police murders nowadays.
The one posted here just started with him on the ground already. I've checked into a bit more and seen more videos yeah, I'd say George Floyd was cooperating fully and under complete control of the 4 officers. I've got 0 clue as to how he got to be underneath the 3 officers and that's unacceptable for anyone to hold someone down with a knee to the carotid artery. What the fuck did he think was going to happen?
Another thing which bothers me is that apparently EMS/Fire checked for a pulse but didn't do any lifesaving procedures which is just as terrifying as how those officers acted.
All that being said all rioting will do is harm working people and then the cops get called in to enforce the law and then what happens all over again?
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El Kabong
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TitoFan
No. It starts before that.
There is video of Floyd already handcuffed and being led around by a police officer. In no way shape or form is the guy even remotely close to "resisting arrest", the go-to excuse for all police murders nowadays.
The one posted here just started with him on the ground already. I've checked into a bit more and seen more videos yeah, I'd say George Floyd was cooperating fully and under complete control of the 4 officers. I've got 0 clue as to how he got to be underneath the 3 officers and that's unacceptable for anyone to hold someone down with a knee to the carotid artery. What the fuck did he think was going to happen?
Another thing which bothers me is that apparently EMS/Fire checked for a pulse but didn't do any lifesaving procedures which is just as terrifying as how those officers acted.
All that being said all rioting will do is harm working people and then the cops get called in to enforce the law and then what happens all over again?
Yeah... I don't condone rioting, as someone else insinuated on another thread. All I said was that people's anger is understandable. Unfortunately, a few scumbags are always at the ready to destroy and loot at the first sign of a protest..... which turns an angry protest into a full-blown riot. The fucking looters don't realize they're giving the other side ample ammunition to downplay or even justify the murder committed by officers paid to uphold the law. It's rinse and repeat to the Nth degree.
Frankly, I'm just tired of all the useless handwringing that always ends in zilch, with penalties being too little too late to satisfy anybody. You'd think that with phone cameras and camcorders out the ying-yang, the course of justice would be just a bit more streamlined..... but no. It's cringeworthy to imagine how these things would play out without the usual videos and half a dozen eye witnesses.
Racism and racist attitudes will NEVER go away. That is a fantasy and will not happen in a million years. So the next best thing is to make the consequences for these actions unbearable to the point of deterrence. If you're an angry cop with a chip on your shoulder... and feel your badge gives you a licence to fuck up any black guy you wish... then hopefully you'll think twice before doing so, knowing justice will deal with you swiftly and harshly. A guy like that shouldn't even be on the force to begin with.
Too many times we invest too much time into looking for the slightest excuse that will make these goddamn murders seem justified.
Hogwash.
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Tweet from 'The Gravel Institute'(Left nonprofit. Launching 2020. Pronounced gruh-VELL. Tweets from Sen. Mike Gravel signed -SMG.) :
"In 2006 Amy Klobuchar, then a district attorney, declined to bring charges against a cop who had shot and killed a Native American man.
Two days ago that cop, Derek Chauvin, murdered George Floyd.
Amy Klobuchar needs to resign."
Well there goes Vice President for Klobuchar :-X
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We as society seem to be on a roll lately. This was as clear a cold blooded murder by a coward that there is. The man was cuffed, completely flat on his face, bleeding fully detained and asking for his dead momma FFS. Cop knew exactly what he was doing kept his hand in his pocket staring into the cam and ratcheting up his foot with knee on his neck until he stopped breathing. I seriously cannot understand how people continue to dance around what is as clear as day but it's what we do these days.
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People will dance around it because they see admitting that racist and evil people are working in law enforcement as a kind of surrender. It means that their supposed fear of the powerful abusing that power, does not really extend to enuring that people not like them are treated not just equally, but even just as a human being and not some kind of animal. It is hard to admit it, and God knows for years i have tried to give them the opportunity to prove me wrong, but the fact is those making excuses for the cunts that Killed George Floyd are the same spineless bastards that pretended an unarmed teenager shot to death by a security guard deserved it, because all this standing up to a tyrannical government horseshit is just a convinient blagging card to pull out to justify their fantasy rebel daydream.
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El Kabong
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TitoFan
No. It starts before that.
There is video of Floyd already handcuffed and being led around by a police officer. In no way shape or form is the guy even remotely close to "resisting arrest", the go-to excuse for all police murders nowadays.
The one posted here just started with him on the ground already. I've checked into a bit more and seen more videos yeah, I'd say George Floyd was cooperating fully and under complete control of the 4 officers. I've got 0 clue as to how he got to be underneath the 3 officers and that's unacceptable for anyone to hold someone down with a knee to the carotid artery. What the fuck did he think was going to happen?
Another thing which bothers me is that apparently EMS/Fire checked for a pulse but didn't do any lifesaving procedures which is just as terrifying as how those officers acted.
All that being said all rioting will do is harm working people and then the cops get called in to enforce the law and then what happens all over again?
You just gave a textbook example of how to modify your initial view based on seeing a few more facts. If only everyone here was as flexible...
It's why you and I can totally disagree on something, and yet argue like civil, logical adults. :) But again, if only...
Back to Floyd however. Let's just say he had resisted arrest. I say his killing by the police officer still amounts to murder.
Nowhere in the police handbook does it justify the killing of a citizen because they've resisted arrest.
They're only supposed to use enough force to subdue the person and perform the arrest.
But lately, especially with "white cop/black man", nothing could be further from reality.
Plenty of killings have happened without due cause.
Remember.... the officer's life or welfare must be endangered before he should be able to use lethal force.
We're waaaaaayyyyy beyond that now... don't you think?
Police forces across America are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Gotta get those rotten apples outta there.
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Also why the duplicate thread there has been one on this for days?
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did the guy die or not? i don't know but things look staged. either way it got the desired result. order out of chaos. no one is buying the covid 19 bullshit so they need to create another rodney king further inciting the kgb long term objective of a race war in america & another reason for marshall law. divide & conquer
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I just cried for a few minutes after watching that.
Trust me, if I had been there, that shit WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. Folks don't know me very well if you dont believe me.
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NoSavingByTheBell
I just cried for a few minutes after watching that.
Trust me, if I had been there, that shit WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. Folks don't know me very well if you dont believe me.
you would be hiding inside with your mask on
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TIC
did the guy die or not? i don't know but things look staged. either way it got the desired result. order out of chaos. no one is buying the covid 19 bullshit so they need to create another rodney king further inciting the kgb long term objective of a race war in america & another reason for marshall law. divide & conquer
Damn..... can't get nothin' past ya.
George Floyd is actually alive and well and having a few cold ones with The Great Conspirators. They sure didn't count on your cunning and investigative prowess.
Little did they know you're the star reporter for "Conspiracies R Us".
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
did the guy die or not? i don't know but things look staged. either way it got the desired result. order out of chaos. no one is buying the covid 19 bullshit so they need to create another rodney king further inciting the kgb long term objective of a race war in america & another reason for marshall law. divide & conquer
Damn..... can't get nothin' past ya.
George Floyd is actually alive and well and having a few cold ones with The Great Conspirators. They sure didn't count on your cunning and investigative prowess.
Little did they know you're the star reporter for "Conspiracies R Us".
just keep believing what you see on the tv
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I dont care who wants to rebut what Im a bout to say, I swaer that shit would not have gone down if I was there, I dont give a fook , maybe I'd get tazed, tackled, arrested, all 3 what the fuck, I would NOT stand there saying oh please officer, oh please dont do that, you'll kill him. Fuck me, if we cannot get motivated to take action after watching that video then we do not have a fucking soul. That is very disturbing, I know I'll cry again soon, just thinking about it, I had to stop the video a few times because I couldn't see.
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
did the guy die or not? i don't know but things look staged. either way it got the desired result. order out of chaos. no one is buying the covid 19 bullshit so they need to create another rodney king further inciting the kgb long term objective of a race war in america & another reason for marshall law. divide & conquer
Damn..... can't get nothin' past ya.
George Floyd is actually alive and well and having a few cold ones with The Great Conspirators. They sure didn't count on your cunning and investigative prowess.
Little did they know you're the star reporter for "Conspiracies R Us".
just keep believing what you see on the tv
wtf... i was giving you a compliment
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
I dont care who wants to rebut what Im a bout to say, I swaer that shit would not have gone down if I was there, I dont give a fook , maybe I'd get tazed, tackled, arrested, all 3 what the fuck, I would NOT stand there saying oh please officer, oh please dont do that, you'll kill him. Fuck me, if we cannot get motivated to take action after watching that video then we do not have a fucking soul. That is very disturbing, I know I'll cry again soon, just thinking about it, I had to stop the video a few times because I couldn't see.
you wouldn't be there because you would be hiding inside wearing a mask & crying like a baby
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
I dont care who wants to rebut what Im a bout to say, I swaer that shit would not have gone down if I was there, I dont give a fook , maybe I'd get tazed, tackled, arrested, all 3 what the fuck, I would NOT stand there saying oh please officer, oh please dont do that, you'll kill him. Fuck me, if we cannot get motivated to take action after watching that video then we do not have a fucking soul. That is very disturbing, I know I'll cry again soon, just thinking about it, I had to stop the video a few times because I couldn't see.
Believe me, it's coming to that. The day will come when a cop in the process of killing a subdued black man will get his brains blown out by some bystander who's had enough and just doesn't give a shit what happens to him.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
did the guy die or not? i don't know but things look staged. either way it got the desired result. order out of chaos. no one is buying the covid 19 bullshit so they need to create another rodney king further inciting the kgb long term objective of a race war in america & another reason for marshall law. divide & conquer
Damn..... can't get nothin' past ya.
George Floyd is actually alive and well and having a few cold ones with The Great Conspirators. They sure didn't count on your cunning and investigative prowess.
Little did they know you're the star reporter for "Conspiracies R Us".
just keep believing what you see on the tv
wtf... i was giving you a compliment
can you prove he's alive or dead for that matter? if he did die it is truly a tragedy but it doesn't mean there wasn't an agenda behind it. i saw an interview with one of the witnesses donald williams, & he was laughing away. big red flags there, big disconnect. ever heard of crisis actors?
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Think we can save all the mumbling about a 'race war'. Literally half of these individuals are young and white and there are no Reginal Dennys being yanked from their trucks. Protest-riot has morphed. Whats stuck is the mass and social media coverage still parroting the 'old divisions' and the worst aspects of revolt and boiling aftermath and rage down to race.
Have a feeling outside politics are well entrenched in this by now and local officials are second guessing every move.
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
I dont care who wants to rebut what Im a bout to say, I swaer that shit would not have gone down if I was there, I dont give a fook , maybe I'd get tazed, tackled, arrested, all 3 what the fuck, I would NOT stand there saying oh please officer, oh please dont do that, you'll kill him. Fuck me, if we cannot get motivated to take action after watching that video then we do not have a fucking soul. That is very disturbing, I know I'll cry again soon, just thinking about it, I had to stop the video a few times because I couldn't see.
Believe me, it's coming to that. The day will come when a cop in the process of killing a subdued black man will get his brains blown out by some bystander who's had enough and just doesn't give a shit what happens to him.
gave me goosebumps reading that. Yes, that is fucking ENOUGH. ENOUGH. Probably get myself killed.
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Spicoli
Think we can save all the mumbling about a 'race war'. Literally half of these individuals are young and white and there are no Reginal Dennys being yanked from their trucks. Protest-riot has morphed. Whats stuck is the mass and social media coverage still parroting the 'old divisions' and the worst aspects of revolt and boiling aftermath and rage down to race.
Have a feeling outside politics are well entrenched in this by now and local officials are second guessing every move.
divide & conquer yeh
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
I dont care who wants to rebut what Im a bout to say, I swaer that shit would not have gone down if I was there, I dont give a fook , maybe I'd get tazed, tackled, arrested, all 3 what the fuck, I would NOT stand there saying oh please officer, oh please dont do that, you'll kill him. Fuck me, if we cannot get motivated to take action after watching that video then we do not have a fucking soul. That is very disturbing, I know I'll cry again soon, just thinking about it, I had to stop the video a few times because I couldn't see.
Believe me, it's coming to that. The day will come when a cop in the process of killing a subdued black man will get his brains blown out by some bystander who's had enough and just doesn't give a shit what happens to him.
gave me goosebumps reading that. Yes, that is fucking ENOUGH. ENOUGH. Probably get myself killed.
you are so brave, you might as well take off the mask in that case
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Think we can save all the mumbling about a 'race war'. Literally half of these individuals are young and white and there are no Reginal Dennys being yanked from their trucks. Protest-riot has morphed. Whats stuck is the mass and social media coverage still parroting the 'old divisions' and the worst aspects of revolt and boiling aftermath and rage down to race.
Have a feeling outside politics are well entrenched in this by now and local officials are second guessing every move.
divide & conquer yeh
It's an example of traditional newsroom 'media' being secondary for so long now. That's why I find it funny when we're still beefing over old guard networks while every single individual with a phone, an account and cause can go viral instantly.
Sure as with anything things can be set up, fake news etc etc. But sometimes things are in fact exactly how they are witnessed.
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Think we can save all the mumbling about a 'race war'. Literally half of these individuals are young and white and there are no Reginal Dennys being yanked from their trucks. Protest-riot has morphed. Whats stuck is the mass and social media coverage still parroting the 'old divisions' and the worst aspects of revolt and boiling aftermath and rage down to race.
Have a feeling outside politics are well entrenched in this by now and local officials are second guessing every move.
divide & conquer yeh
It's an example of traditional newsroom 'media' being secondary for so long now. That's why I find it funny when we're still beefing over old guard networks while every single individual with a phone, an account and cause can go viral instantly.
Sure as with anything things can be set up, fake news etc etc. But sometimes things are in fact exactly how they are witnessed.
real truth doesn't go viral
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I don't know about no race war..... but I know it's a sad day when even the news we see with our own eyes are subjected to the cries of Fake News, conspiracies, and other such B.S.
Seems humans have developed this hyper-need for mystery (cue suspense music), as just plain in-your-face news are just too damn boring.
Maybe Floyd was actually an advanced hologram deployed in the middle of the street and never really happened.
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TitoFan
I don't know about no race war..... but I know it's a sad day when even the news we see with our own eyes are subjected to the cries of Fake News, conspiracies, and other such B.S.
Seems humans have developed this hyper-need for mystery (cue suspense music), as just plain in-your-face news are just too damn boring.
Maybe Floyd was actually an advanced hologram deployed in the middle of the street and never really happened.
Agreed there. Over active imaginations and lack of hobbies maybe who knows. Spend enough time inventing boogeymen then you for sure will miss what's happening right in front of your face. Oddly enough beginning to think that every time I hear deep state blah blah too :p.
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@TIC oh that explains your lack of fame
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TitoFan
I don't know about no race war..... but I know it's a sad day when even the news we see with our own eyes are subjected to the cries of Fake News, conspiracies, and other such B.S.
Seems humans have developed this hyper-need for mystery (cue suspense music), as just plain in-your-face news are just too damn boring.
Maybe Floyd was actually an advanced hologram deployed in the middle of the street and never really happened.
you see it on tv, that is not proof. the guy could be dead, might not be, we don't know. lots of it seemed staged. i prefer to know the truth rather than just believe. it achieved it's goal
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NoSavingByTheBell
oh that explains your lack of fame
who would want to be famous?
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TitoFan
You just gave a textbook example of how to modify your initial view based on seeing a few more facts. If only everyone here was as flexible...
It's why you and I can totally disagree on something, and yet argue like civil, logical adults. :) But again, if only...
Back to Floyd however. Let's just say he had resisted arrest. I say his killing by the police officer still amounts to murder.
Nowhere in the police handbook does it justify the killing of a citizen because they've resisted arrest.
They're only supposed to use enough force to subdue the person and perform the arrest.
But lately, especially with "white cop/black man", nothing could be further from reality.
Plenty of killings have happened without due cause.
Remember.... the officer's life or welfare must be endangered before he should be able to use lethal force.
We're waaaaaayyyyy beyond that now... don't you think?
Police forces across America are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Gotta get those rotten apples outta there.
I like to be as informed as possible before committing to one side or the other. Otherwise you're just being used by one side or the other as a dupe.
Yes you and I are good like that we can disagree but understand each other's point of view.
If George Floyd HAD resisted in the situation he was in, being subdued is one thing, being murdered is completely different. Even Bernard Kerik former police commissioner of the NYPD said what the officer did was all kinds of wrong. Yes the officer SHOULD be charged with murder and I think the other 3 officers as well need to be charged either with negligence or something because none of them stopped Chauvin from what he did and the whole "just following orders" thing doesn't jive. That said psychologically groupthink is a difficult thing to shake, there's plenty of studies to show the impact of it. So in order to be righteous in response to this a jury would have to take that under consideration.
As for the rotten apples and the cops....well if there's no respect for the law and there's no respect FROM the law then we're going to have trouble. People don't want to live in fear of criminals but likewise they don't want to live in fear of cops. There's a balance, a homeostasis that we need to return to or achieve. Rioting is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live, letting criminal cops slide is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live.
How do we achieve those things is the big question.
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We don't. Because this s*** hole has bad karma. You going down with the ship?
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NoSavingByTheBell
We don't. Because this s*** hole has bad karma. You going down with the ship?
K Brockton, good chat.
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You just gave a textbook example of how to modify your initial view based on seeing a few more facts. If only everyone here was as flexible...
It's why you and I can totally disagree on something, and yet argue like civil, logical adults. :) But again, if only...
Back to Floyd however. Let's just say he had resisted arrest. I say his killing by the police officer still amounts to murder.
Nowhere in the police handbook does it justify the killing of a citizen because they've resisted arrest.
They're only supposed to use enough force to subdue the person and perform the arrest.
But lately, especially with "white cop/black man", nothing could be further from reality.
Plenty of killings have happened without due cause.
Remember.... the officer's life or welfare must be endangered before he should be able to use lethal force.
We're waaaaaayyyyy beyond that now... don't you think?
Police forces across America are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Gotta get those rotten apples outta there.
I like to be as informed as possible before committing to one side or the other. Otherwise you're just being used by one side or the other as a dupe.
Yes you and I are good like that we can disagree but understand each other's point of view.
If George Floyd HAD resisted in the situation he was in, being subdued is one thing, being murdered is completely different. Even Bernard Kerik former police commissioner of the NYPD said what the officer did was all kinds of wrong. Yes the officer SHOULD be charged with murder and I think the other 3 officers as well need to be charged either with negligence or something because none of them stopped Chauvin from what he did and the whole "just following orders" thing doesn't jive. That said psychologically groupthink is a difficult thing to shake, there's plenty of studies to show the impact of it. So in order to be righteous in response to this a jury would have to take that under consideration.
As for the rotten apples and the cops....well if there's no respect for the law and there's no respect FROM the law then we're going to have trouble. People don't want to live in fear of criminals but likewise they don't want to live in fear of cops. There's a balance, a homeostasis that we need to return to or achieve. Rioting is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live, letting criminal cops slide is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live.
How do we achieve those things is the big question.
What a mealy mouthed piss poor excuse. You can't wait to condemn people usually, and yet here you are pretending that there is some kind of circumstance that would make kneeling on someone's neck until they die not murder.
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Beanz
What a mealy mouthed piss poor excuse. You can't wait to condemn people usually, and yet here you are pretending that there is some kind of circumstance that would make kneeling on someone's neck until they die not murder.
Thanks, appreciate it