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They are not great divisions with great champions that have been able to enhance the Floyd legacy. At lightweight Shane, Duran or Pernell, welterweight there is no SRR, Leonard or Hearns or at light middle with McCallum or Norris. Floyd has not even been able to fight the number 2 welterweight in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
Floyd is Top 10 surely? I think he's proven it the last few years even after the Maidana fight. He's 37 FFS.
Athletes improve over time and that's why records keep getting broken. A prime 2000's PBF handles pretty much everyone from 135 - 147 IMO from all decades previous. He's just too damn good to get hurt, has he ever been seriously?
Now I hate Floyd as much as the next man but I've resigned myself to the fact there's simply nobody out there that can beat him. I've travelled 3 times to Vegas in the hope he gets beaten and every time I leave thinking "maybe next time?'
There is no next time.
as some people have stated before, there have been some very good fighters over the past century. floyd is better than almost all of them and being in the top 20 or 25 is still a tremendous accomplishment.
floyd has beaten some really good fighters. while i do agree that he is heads and shoulders better than anybody around him right now, i could say that about past fighters also. you could put sweat pea, ray robinson, ray leonard, duran, armstrong, chavez, ross, arguello, among others in floyds place and they would all dominate too. im not implying that they are all better than floyd but just stating the fact that there have been other elite fighters that would dominate this era like floyd did. and that list only included some of the people around floyds weight. thats not counting all of the other weight classes.
honestly, imagaine ray leonard in this era. who could beat him? i honestly cant think of anybody from 140-160 that could even come close. or duran. anybody from 135-154 would have no chance. so my point is that many people would dominate this era. floyd isnt the only person who could do what he has done. this is why he isnt top 10.
Only cuz I think you're a cool lad... @Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
(Just want to clarify that this is NOT my upload)
@amat I have to admit I'm really disappointed that you would question my integrity... I'd expect it from a newbie or someone who doesn't like me. But you? I gotta say you cut me deep here man. I'm glad the Kings smashed on San Jose and I hope the Oakland A's smash on your Giants overall this season and I hate the Clippers but now I'm glad they fucken murked Golden State!!! HAHAHAHAHA... Ok I feel better now.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Anywhore!!!
Here's the video 2 hours of Sugar Ray Robinson in all his infinite glory with several fights of him at 147. Yes you read that right SRR at 147. I've done research myself and verified it. So if I can do it so can you ;) all it takes is time and patience to go thru the video and look up the names, date & weight. I can assure you it's there. Enjoy! you can all thank me with reputation points... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vTyJ8kinc4
Sweet Pea is ranked so high because...?
(question aimed at anyone not just micky shades)
As much is it pains me to say this, Floyd is one of the best fighters we've ever seen.
You have to give credit where it is due..
And NOT give it where it clearly isn't!
I like the list good to see you back mate, what was the food like in jail I hope you never droppedQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
the soap in the shower.;D
[QUOTE=Fenster;1289657]Sweet Pea is ranked so high because...?
(question aimed at anyone not just micky shades)
Pernell did and achieved everything before Floyd did.
I still rank Floyd below Oscar, A prime Oscar would have beat Floyd.