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Saddoboxing Official Ratings
How the SaddoBoxing Ratings work:
· Rankings for each weight class were initially voted for by SaddoBoxing members. No Championships were given in the initial rankings.
· If the #1 ranked fighter fights the #2 ranked fighter and the championship is vacant, that fight automatically qualifies for the Saddoboxing Championship.
· If the #1 ranked fighter fights the #3, #4 or #5 ranked fighter and the championship is vacant, it will be decided if it merits being for the Saddoboxing Championship or not.
· If a fighter beats a higher ranked fighter they take that spot.
· If a rated fighter beats a fighter rated lower than him it will be decided if he should advance one or two spots or remain at his current ranking depending on the relevance of his victory.
· If a fighter ranked as Champion down thru to #5 loses; it will be decided whether he is demoted one to three spots depending how bad the loss is deemed. If the loss is to an unranked fighter the option to remove him straight to the pool will be considered.
· If a fighter ranked #6 thru to #10 loses; it will be decided how far he should be demoted. With removing him to the pool also an option.
· If a rated fighter loses to a fighter rated above him; it will be decided if he should retain his rank or be demoted.
· It will be decided which fights or fighters should fill vacancies in the top ten.
· Draws have no effect on the rankings.
· If a Champion or ranked fighter does not fight within a year; it will be decided whether to give him a six month extension or to remove him to the pool. If removed to the pool the fighter must win a bout before being eligible to be rated again. If a fighter who was granted an extension loses his next fight it will be decided how far he should be demoted. With removing him to the pool also an option.
· If a fighter has not won a fight in two years it will be decided if he receives a six month extension or is removed to the pool.
· Fighters can be ranked in multiple weight classes.
· Inactivity or poor performances can lead to a one spot demotion.
· If a fighter loses two fights in a row; it will be decided if he is removed directly to the pool.
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Alright, lets vote on Vazquez and Marquez
Vaqzuez: Extension to 18 months, If I don't hear anything before then (mid-July) he goes to the pool.
Marquez: Goes to the pool directly.
Izzy gets special treatment because he is the lineal champ.
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as 122 manager i think Vasquez should stay in the ratings for now, Marquez is out for now but well have to see what he does next, as his taken out for inactivity does that mean one win agaisnt anyone puts him back in at his same position ? maybe a stupid question but just confuses me a little
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Alright, lets vote on Vazquez and Marquez
Vaqzuez: Extension to 18 months, If I don't hear anything before then (mid-July) he goes to the pool.
Marquez: Goes to the pool directly.
Izzy gets special treatment because he is the lineal champ.
I am in favor of this.
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Actually there is no vacancy at 122 because Dunne won his way in there yesterday!! Yes to 135 and 105 once I update them.
The only initial rankings that are left is Featherweight.
Sorry bro, I thought Dunne had been ranked before we took of Marquez. Better to have the top 10 fill though where we can!
That brings up a point about our system though, if there are no vacancies and someone new enters the ranks, whoever is #10 is gonna get bumped to the pool, personally, I'm ok with that.
I'm good with that!
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Sorry bro, I thought Dunne had been ranked before we took of Marquez. Better to have the top 10 fill though where we can!
That brings up a point about our system though, if there are no vacancies and someone new enters the ranks, whoever is #10 is gonna get bumped to the pool, personally, I'm ok with that.
I'm good with that!
OK I updated Light and Straw.
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I have an issue I would like to raise regarding the LMW division. Sergio Mora has signed to fight Kelly Pavlik at MW and will likely stay in that division after he gets knocked out the fight. I suggest he be removed from the 154lb. rankings and put into the 160lb. pool.
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I have an issue I would like to raise regarding the LMW division. Sergio Mora has signed to fight Kelly Pavlik at MW and will likely stay in that division after he gets knocked out the fight. I suggest he be removed from the 154lb. rankings and put into the 160lb. pool.
I'll second putting Mora in the 160 pool, but no need to remove him from 154 until he makes an official announcement. Something tells me after he gets knocked out the fight, he's gonna jump back down to 154. If he does stay up at 160 and doesn't make an announcement he will be removed in due time anyway.
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I have an issue I would like to raise regarding the LMW division. Sergio Mora has signed to fight Kelly Pavlik at MW and will likely stay in that division after he gets knocked out the fight. I suggest he be removed from the 154lb. rankings and put into the 160lb. pool.
I'll second putting Mora in the 160 pool, but no need to remove him from 154 until he makes an official announcement. Something tells me after
he gets knocked out the fight, he's gonna jump back down to 154. If he does stay up at 160 and doesn't make an announcement he will be removed in due time anyway.
While I think he should stay at 154 where I think he could do some damage, he's stated that it is too difficult for him to make the weight. However, I agree with him remaining ranked at 154 and being included in the pool for 160 for now.
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I think the fighters should be given the years grace, if they fail to fight at the weight they are ranked within a year of their last fight there then they should be removed to one of the pools. Mundine is a perfect example, he last fought at 160 but only fought at 168 in November I think. Plus we got Cazares fighting early this week against Vasquez at 115, should he lose he may return to 112.
My 105 pool looks pretty thin so I would like to propose that the winner of the upcoming fight between Yasutaka Kuroki & Junichiro Kaneda gets awarded a place in the 105 pool.
Also am I correct in assuming that if a fighter in the pool loses he is removed? Or only if they lose to an unranked fighter?
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I think the fighters should be given the years grace, if they fail to fight at the weight they are ranked within a year of their last fight there then they should be removed to one of the pools. Mundine is a perfect example, he last fought at 160 but only fought at 168 in November I think. Plus we got Cazares fighting early this week against Vasquez at 115, should he lose he may return to 112.
My 105 pool looks pretty thin so I would like to propose that the winner of the upcoming fight between Yasutaka Kuroki & Junichiro Kaneda gets awarded a place in the 105 pool.
Also am I correct in assuming that if a fighter in the pool loses he is removed? Or only if they lose to an unranked fighter?
We haven't nailed down losses in the pool. maybe we could do the following
1. if there is a vacant spot in the ranks and someone in the pool loses, whomever they lose to takes the vacant spot.
2. if there is no vacant spot the winner takes over the pool spot.
3. The original pool member will be dropped from the pool
A committee vote can override this.
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Hmm... I didn't take Mundine into account when ranking the SMWs because I assumed he was a 160lber from now on, where do you guys think he should be ranked, if at all?
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Hmm... I didn't take Mundine into account when ranking the SMWs because I assumed he was a 160lber from now on, where do you guys think he should be ranked, if at all?
I think he's ok for now in the pool at 168 and ranked #7 at 160 seems reasonable to me.
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I agree, with our system you have to beat a ranked fighter to get ranked or win a fight that the commitee agrees on to fill a vacancy. So I think everything is all good there.
But I feel a fighter should be removed if they have not fought at the weight they are ranked at if they have not fought there for a over year. If this occurs they should be removed to the pool.
A fighters weight should be recognised as what they weigh at the official weigh in imo...
All head nodding on the 1st portion.Nates in the pool at 140,out of light rankings.Ya see,I only base that on his stated intentions to compete at 140.Not the over the weight issue.I think we might be getting bogged down in numbers a bit.It gets blurry as many guys have come in 5,10 or more pounds over weight once the bell rings.
The record books and chronology of the lightweight division will list this fight as a lightweight affair.....with an asterisk.
I guess it's up to us as the commission then do we want to enforce a zero tolerance policy regarding weight? I would support that actually.
If we were a real commission and we had a contract for him to fight at 135, he violated that contract.
All for this.Has to be structure.He lost his title on the scales and I believe its the norm for over the contracted weight fighters to be docked a percentage of purse...10 % ???Not meeting the contract should have penalties.
Missed alot today?Is there a way to archive the rankings?I really regret not voting on all the divisions.Have we firmed up the system in regards a loss for a ranked fighter and how far they drop?
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All head nodding on the 1st portion.Nates in the pool at 140,out of light rankings.Ya see,I only base that on his stated intentions to compete at 140.Not the over the weight issue.I think we might be getting bogged down in numbers a bit.It gets blurry as many guys have come in 5,10 or more pounds over weight once the bell rings.
The record books and chronology of the lightweight division will list this fight as a lightweight affair.....with an asterisk.
I guess it's up to us as the commission then do we want to enforce a zero tolerance policy regarding weight? I would support that actually.
If we were a real commission and we had a contract for him to fight at 135, he violated that contract.
All for this.Has to be structure.He lost his title on the scales and I believe its the norm for over the contracted weight fighters to be docked a percentage of purse...10 % ???Not meeting the contract should have penalties.
Missed alot today?Is there a way to archive the rankings?I really regret not voting on all the divisions.Have we firmed up the system in regards a loss for a ranked fighter and how far they drop?
Fighters drop 1 place unless it's a total blowout (ie. Calzaghe/Lacy, PBF/Baldomir, JML/DPDL) then it's 2 places. 1 place is assumed the norm.
think of it as a 10-9 vs. 10-8 round (without knockdowns) for the entire fight. Gomez for example was clearly defeated, but had quite a few competitive rounds so still a 1 place drop.
I love your idea for fighting for rank, we had the first occurance of that with Dunne stopping Cordoba yesterday.
As far as archives goes, I'll try to work on that, gonna be a lot of disk space though.
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All head nodding on the 1st portion.Nates in the pool at 140,out of light rankings.Ya see,I only base that on his stated intentions to compete at 140.Not the over the weight issue.I think we might be getting bogged down in numbers a bit.It gets blurry as many guys have come in 5,10 or more pounds over weight once the bell rings.
The record books and chronology of the lightweight division will list this fight as a lightweight affair.....with an asterisk.
I guess it's up to us as the commission then do we want to enforce a zero tolerance policy regarding weight? I would support that actually.
If we were a real commission and we had a contract for him to fight at 135, he violated that contract.
All for this.Has to be structure.He lost his title on the scales and I believe its the norm for over the contracted weight fighters to be docked a percentage of purse...10 % ???Not meeting the contract should have penalties.
Missed alot today?Is there a way to archive the rankings?I really regret not voting on all the divisions.Have we firmed up the system in regards a loss for a ranked fighter and how far they drop?
In regards to archiving the rankings maybe we could post an update each Monday like The Ring does, stating any changes that have occurred?
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I guess it's up to us as the commission then do we want to enforce a zero tolerance policy regarding weight? I would support that actually.
If we were a real commission and we had a contract for him to fight at 135, he violated that contract.
All for this.Has to be structure.He lost his title on the scales and I believe its the norm for over the contracted weight fighters to be docked a percentage of purse...10 % ???Not meeting the contract should have penalties.
Missed alot today?Is there a way to archive the rankings?I really regret not voting on all the divisions.Have we firmed up the system in regards a loss for a ranked fighter and how far they drop?
In regards to archiving the rankings maybe we could post an update each Monday like The Ring does, stating any changes that have occurred?
I cannot commit to a schedule, my work makes me travel and I'm in school. What I can do is update asap if we have managers feeding me info. I posted the Date of most recent update on each weightclass.
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
All for this.Has to be structure.He lost his title on the scales and I believe its the norm for over the contracted weight fighters to be docked a percentage of purse...10 % ???Not meeting the contract should have penalties.
Missed alot today?Is there a way to archive the rankings?I really regret not voting on all the divisions.Have we firmed up the system in regards a loss for a ranked fighter and how far they drop?
In regards to archiving the rankings maybe we could post an update each Monday like The Ring does, stating any changes that have occurred?
I cannot commit to a schedule, my work makes me travel and I'm in school. What I can do is update asap if we have managers feeding me info. I posted the Date of most recent update on each weightclass.
Is there a way to take the initial rankings,prior to any changes and put em up in File sharing or elsewhere.We really need to scheduale a firm meeting time,time is hard to cordinate no doubt.Also run the risk of one of the division managers slacking off,not staying on top of division and seeing jam ups.Just brain storming everything here.what do you think the chances are of a sticky thread.Not on main board,anywhere would be great?
Missed the Marquez/Izzy finale.Really hate to but agree Marquez should be pooled...and slight extension to Izzy.The year time is good,keeps it flowing.
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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Galaxy
In regards to archiving the rankings maybe we could post an update each Monday like The Ring does, stating any changes that have occurred?
I cannot commit to a schedule, my work makes me travel and I'm in school. What I can do is update asap if we have managers feeding me info. I posted the Date of most recent update on each weightclass.
Is there a way to take the initial rankings,prior to any changes and put em up in File sharing or elsewhere.We really need to scheduale a firm meeting time,time is hard to cordinate no doubt.Also run the risk of one of the division managers slacking off,not staying on top of division and seeing jam ups.Just brain storming everything here.what do you think the chances are of a sticky thread.Not on main board,anywhere would be great?
Missed the Marquez/Izzy finale.Really hate to but agree Marquez should be pooled...and slight extension to Izzy.The year time is good,keeps it flowing.
Honestly this merits it's own board I think.
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I cannot commit to a schedule, my work makes me travel and I'm in school. What I can do is update asap if we have managers feeding me info. I posted the Date of most recent update on each weightclass.
Is there a way to take the initial rankings,prior to any changes and put em up in File sharing or elsewhere.We really need to scheduale a firm meeting time,time is hard to cordinate no doubt.Also run the risk of one of the division managers slacking off,not staying on top of division and seeing jam ups.Just brain storming everything here.what do you think the chances are of a sticky thread.Not on main board,anywhere would be great?
Missed the Marquez/Izzy finale.Really hate to but agree Marquez should be pooled...and slight extension to Izzy.The year time is good,keeps it flowing.
Honestly this merits it's own board I think.
You're just trying to fandangle your way into a MOD-ship :p
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killersheep
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Is there a way to take the initial rankings,prior to any changes and put em up in File sharing or elsewhere.We really need to scheduale a firm meeting time,time is hard to cordinate no doubt.Also run the risk of one of the division managers slacking off,not staying on top of division and seeing jam ups.Just brain storming everything here.what do you think the chances are of a sticky thread.Not on main board,anywhere would be great?
Missed the Marquez/Izzy finale.Really hate to but agree Marquez should be pooled...and slight extension to Izzy.The year time is good,keeps it flowing.
Honestly this merits it's own board I think.
You're just trying to fandangle your way into a MOD-ship :p
That's the last thing I need is Saddoboxer to call me MOD-sheep.
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Honestly this merits it's own board I think.
You're just trying to fandangle your way into a MOD-ship :p
That's the last thing I need is Saddoboxer to call me MOD-sheep.
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Honestly this merits it's own board I think.
You're just trying to fandangle your way into a MOD-ship :p
That's the last thing I need is Saddoboxer to call me MOD-sheep.
MOD Killa sounds better...:lickish:
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SADDOBOXING OFFICIAL RATINGS UPDATE.
HEAVYWEIGHT:
Sultan Ibragimov (formerly eighth) is dropped to the pool due to inactivity. Juan Carlos Gomez falls to seventh following his lost to Vitali Klitschko. While Samuel Peter moves to number six. David Haye & Alexander Dimitrenko move up one spot each to eight and ninth respectively. The number ten ranking becomes vacant.
LIGHTWEIGHT:
Nate Campbell (previously tenth) is removed to the pool at Jr. Welter due to his intentions to campaign there and the fact that he has not fought at lightweight in over a year. Number ten is now vacant.
Jr. FEATHERWEIGHT:
Israel Vasquez currently number one has been inactive for over a year but has been given an extension due to a legitimate injury. Rafael Marquez who has been inactive the same period has been removed to the pool as he has simply been on the sidelines. Marquez’ removal allows Celestino Caballero to move up to second, Juan Manuel Lopez advances to third and Steve Molitor jumps to fourth. Bernard Dunne crashes the rankings at number five on the strength of his KO of Ricardo Cordoba who falls to six. Dunne’s entry forces Daniel Ponce DeLeon, Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym, Jhonny Gonzalez and Rendall Munroe all to drop one spot each to seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth respectively.
Jr. FLYWEIGHT:
Brahim Asloum (last ranked ninth) exits due to inactivity. Hugo Cazares moves up one place to ninth, leaving number ten vacant.
STRAWWEIGHT:
Katsunari Takayama (ninth last time) has been removed to the pool as he has been campaigning at higher weights and has not been active at this weight. Nkosinathi Joyi moves up from tenth to ninth, which creates a vacancy at number 10.
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I think we should try to have at least 3 fighters in each pool at a time.
I would request that the winner of Albert Sosnowski and Francesco Pianeta on 4/4/09 enters the pool at heavyweight.
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I think we should try to have at least 3 fighters in each pool at a time.
I would request that the winner of Albert Sosnowski and Francesco Pianeta on 4/4/09 enters the pool at heavyweight.
I've never heard of either fighter, but I have no problem with them being included in the pool if you feel they deserve it. What about Eddie Chambers? Is he too unproven to be put in the pool?
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Have to say,Not a fan of top ten vacant slots.Think we should do everything possibel to fill them all....vote on pool members within time frame??
Also,I am about to get laughed at and ridiculed.Now just think before jumping;D.At heavyweight....ahem...cough.....John Ruiz.......:peeker:.He may be gruesome in style but has competed on a Championship level forever.I use competed lightly:-X
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Have to say,Not a fan of top ten vacant slots.Think we should do everything possibel to fill them all....vote on pool members within time frame??
Also,I am about to get laughed at and ridiculed.Now just think before jumping;D.At heavyweight....ahem...cough.....John Ruiz.......:peeker:.He may be gruesome in style but has competed on a Championship level forever.I use competed lightly:-X
If Ruiz signs a fight, the winner will be put in the pool (unless he fights a ranked fighter of course)
Eddie Chambers is fighting Sam Peter if he wins he gets ranked and by default the vacancy gets filled, from the field moving down.
Also, failing Chambers beating Peter, Arreola is already in the pool and is fight Jameel McCline 4/11/09 for the vacant #10 spot.
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I would like to propose that the winner of the upcoming fight between Yasutaka Kuroki & Junichiro Kaneda gets awarded a place in the 105 pool.
I already suggested this one for Straw.
I'm o.k. with have vacant spots, I would rather have them empty than just fill them for the sake of filling them.
I think Arreola/ McCline is of high enough quality to fill the vacant spot at heavy should Chambers not defeat Peter.
Question: If say Ibragimov who is in the pool too, was fighting someone roughly the same quality as McCline around the same time would the committe vote to see which fight should fill the vacancy?
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I would like to propose that the winner of the upcoming fight between Yasutaka Kuroki & Junichiro Kaneda gets awarded a place in the 105 pool.
I already suggested this one for Straw.
I'm o.k. with have vacant spots, I would rather have them empty than just fill them for the sake of filling them.
I think Arreola/ McCline is of high enough quality to fill the vacant spot at heavy should Chambers not defeat Peter.
Question: If say Ibragimov who is in the pool too, was fighting someone roughly the same quality as McCline around the same time would the committe vote to see which fight should fill the vacancy?
Yes that is exactly right, we as the committee will vote on which fight is of higher quality.
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Not loving the idea of A Chambers only criteria in the Peter fight.Think if Peter is meaningful enough that a win over him gets Chambers ranked,then a Peter win should earn him the same.Neither is in the pool right now....So Chambers (or both) would be skipping it all together.
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So what do you guys think about how many people should be in the pool?
I earlier suggested 3, however that may not be sufficient to fill vacancies in a timely manner. On the other hand, The more fighters in the pool the more complex tracking becomes. Perhaps 5 is a good number more than that we vote someone out less people fight their way in.
Hmmm, opinions?
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Not loving the idea of A Chambers only criteria in the Peter fight.Think if Peter is meaningful enough that a win over him gets Chambers ranked,then a Peter win should earn him the same.Neither is in the pool right now....So Chambers (or both) would be skipping it all together.
Peter is defending his spot though as a title holder would.
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Not loving the idea of A Chambers only criteria in the Peter fight.Think if Peter is meaningful enough that a win over him gets Chambers ranked,then a Peter win should earn him the same.Neither is in the pool right now....So Chambers (or both) would be skipping it all together.
Peter is defending his spot though as a title holder would.
Is he ranked in top ten ??I swear I need to print the rankings out or put em in a file easy :-X.Nevermind the previous waaa then.My bad Killer
5 in the pool sounds very good.Alot of comers to include.What about a Kevin Johnson....I think he'll continue to have a hard time getting big fights.Personnaly,but sounds like I'm in the minority,I'd put Ruiz in the pool.Not caught up on Sosnowskis next opponent and how he stands.....but is that the same one who very nearly became Zuri Lawrences first ever KO victory??:cwm13:;D
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Not sure if the pool should be limited over time, what I mean is 5 will be a good limit to start with. (If there are fighters who were voted for but missed the top 10 I think they should remain in the pool for the time being even if theres more than 5, not sure if this has occurred?).
My feeling is if a fighter is in the pool & they are beaten by an unranked they should be removed & the winner enters the pool.
We could use something like the way ranked fighters move down, if beaten in a competitive bout with a ranked fighter they could remain in the pool, if blown out they should be removed. If they draw with a ranked fighter they could remain, if an unranked draws with a ranked fighter or one in the pool they themselves could enter the pool.