Re: General Election 2015
Re: General Election 2015
That map right there is all that is wrong with the UK. Despite the nasty party imposing all these cuts which didn't need to happen as the money could easily have come from tax evaders, large swathes of that country are still blue. What is it with the English and their Tories? It's more than politics that is rotten, it has infested the populace.
I would love a Green party Syriza style breakthrough, but the FPTP system means change won't happen. So you are stuck with a Lib/Lab/Con vote and each of which would be a crime against humanity (illegal wars, bank worship, child abuse coverups etc). Just horrible.
Never has a system looked so broken and corrupt.
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I do not like the system but I prefer to have a strong government rather than coalition making deals.
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Master
I do not like the system but I prefer to have a strong government rather than coalition making deals.
Why don't you like the deal making aspect of coalitions? Why would that be a problem?? Isn't compromise good for the soul??
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ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
Master
I do not like the system but I prefer to have a strong government rather than coalition making deals.
Why don't you like the deal making aspect of coalitions? Why would that be a problem?? Isn't compromise good for the soul??
No small parties hold the power when they have won less votes. Big parties can blame compromising as to the reasons why their policies failed.
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Gandalf
That map right there is all that is wrong with the UK. Despite the nasty party imposing all these cuts which didn't need to happen as the money could easily have come from tax evaders, large swathes of that country are still blue. What is it with the English and their Tories? It's more than politics that is rotten, it has infested the populace.
I would love a Green party Syriza style breakthrough, but the FPTP system means change won't happen. So you are stuck with a Lib/Lab/Con vote and each of which would be a crime against humanity (illegal wars, bank worship, child abuse coverups etc). Just horrible.
Never has a system looked so broken and corrupt.
So who is this nasty party? : ;D
America doesn't have a labor party, so I'm not familiar with them either. How does the Green party differ/compare to the others?
Are conservatives over there like the ones in America? (Bush-Reagan)
Is there a party that feels itself to be morally above the rest?
And last is the liberal party over there similar to America's liberals who are okay with television shows that allow guys kissing guys. Funding programs that sound good, but don't really do much but make more dependency.
They're okay with girls on girls....well that in particular is okay:rolleyes: Liberals here really allow the conservatives to slap the label of godless across the board.
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SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
That map right there is all that is wrong with the UK. Despite the nasty party imposing all these cuts which didn't need to happen as the money could easily have come from tax evaders, large swathes of that country are still blue. What is it with the English and their Tories? It's more than politics that is rotten, it has infested the populace.
I would love a Green party Syriza style breakthrough, but the FPTP system means change won't happen. So you are stuck with a Lib/Lab/Con vote and each of which would be a crime against humanity (illegal wars, bank worship, child abuse coverups etc). Just horrible.
Never has a system looked so broken and corrupt.
So who is this nasty party? : ;D
America doesn't have a labor party, so I'm not familiar with them either. How does the Green party differ/compare to the others?
Are conservatives over there like the ones in America? (Bush-Reagan)
Is there a party that feels itself to be morally above the rest?
And last is the liberal party over there similar to America's liberals who are okay with television shows that allow guys kissing guys. Funding programs that sound good, but don't really do much but make more dependency.
They're okay with girls on girls....well that in particular is okay:rolleyes: Liberals here really allow the conservatives to slap the label of godless across the board.
The Conservatives are historically cruel and are about punishing poor people, maybe something akin to the Republicans. Labour was formerly a working class party, but became a war mongering Conservative clone. 'We hurt poor people less than the Conservatives' is their battle cry. Inspiring stuff. I guess they are a bit like the Democrats. Obama was clearly inspired by Tony Blair. The Liberal Democrats are a party that has no definable philosophy beyond saying one thing and doing quite the opposite. UKIP is a party that talked a good libertarian fight, but turned out to be a racist, servant of the banks. Then there are the Greens who seem like a decent lot, but will be unable to make a breakthrough because of the antiquated and unfair British voting system.
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UKIP.....cause I CAN
Job Biscuit (Sniffing a pot (p)noodle)!!!
eh eh!!!
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Vote Boris (in 5 years time)
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
That map right there is all that is wrong with the UK. Despite the nasty party imposing all these cuts which didn't need to happen as the money could easily have come from tax evaders, large swathes of that country are still blue. What is it with the English and their Tories? It's more than politics that is rotten, it has infested the populace.
I would love a Green party Syriza style breakthrough, but the FPTP system means change won't happen. So you are stuck with a Lib/Lab/Con vote and each of which would be a crime against humanity (illegal wars, bank worship, child abuse coverups etc). Just horrible.
Never has a system looked so broken and corrupt.
So who is this nasty party? : ;D
America doesn't have a labor party, so I'm not familiar with them either. How does the Green party differ/compare to the others?
Are conservatives over there like the ones in America? (Bush-Reagan)
Is there a party that feels itself to be morally above the rest?
And last is the liberal party over there similar to America's liberals who are okay with television shows that allow guys kissing guys. Funding programs that sound good, but don't really do much but make more dependency.
They're okay with girls on girls....well that in particular is okay:rolleyes: Liberals here really allow the conservatives to slap the label of godless across the board.
The entire British political spectrum would fit comfortably in the Democratic party in America, except for one or two policies by a right wing party that gets about 10% of the vote. Even our right wing parties support a fully socialised healthcare system and an expansive welfare state. They all believe in climate change and evolution too. American politics really is on another planet.
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
That map right there is all that is wrong with the UK. Despite the nasty party imposing all these cuts which didn't need to happen as the money could easily have come from tax evaders, large swathes of that country are still blue. What is it with the English and their Tories? It's more than politics that is rotten, it has infested the populace.
I would love a Green party Syriza style breakthrough, but the FPTP system means change won't happen. So you are stuck with a Lib/Lab/Con vote and each of which would be a crime against humanity (illegal wars, bank worship, child abuse coverups etc). Just horrible.
Never has a system looked so broken and corrupt.
So who is this nasty party? : ;D
America doesn't have a labor party, so I'm not familiar with them either. How does the Green party differ/compare to the others?
Are conservatives over there like the ones in America? (Bush-Reagan)
Is there a party that feels itself to be morally above the rest?
And last is the liberal party over there similar to America's liberals who are okay with television shows that allow guys kissing guys. Funding programs that sound good, but don't really do much but make more dependency.
They're okay with girls on girls....well that in particular is okay:rolleyes: Liberals here really allow the conservatives to slap the label of godless across the board.
Any party like the labor party will be labelled as red or commies in the U.S. and that's why they don't have one over there. By international standard, US is a rightist country and that's why most people from other countries don't understand them. You can see the same ol' political debates here that's been repeated over and over again over the years without any resolution. They simply don't understand one another and they never will.;D
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Cash for access' scandal: Sir Malcolm Rifkind says 'unrealistic' for MPs to live on £67,000 salary
The Tory MP has denied any wrongdoing meeting with fake Chinese firm.
Sir Malcolm Rifkind has defended his alleged offer to use his influence to help a private company by saying it is “unrealistic” to expect some MPs to live on their £67,000 basic salary.
The former Conservative Foreign Secretary has denied any wrongdoing after being filmed meeting undercover reporters from the Daily Telegraph and Channel 4’s Dispatches posing as a fictitious Hong Kong-based communications agency called PMR.
Sir Malcolm was yesterday suspended from the Conservative Party following a meeting with Michael Gove.
'Cash for access' scandal: Sir Malcolm Rifkind says 'unrealistic' for MPs to live on £67,000 salary - UK Politics - UK - The Independent
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Kirkland Laing
They all believe in climate change and evolution too.
Well Kirkland, do you believe in phyletic gradualism or punctuated equilibrium?
As for climate change, many believe the climate is ALWAYS in flux....they just don't all buy into the nonsensical belief that MAN is indeed the cause of it.
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USA are very right wing but it comes from their history that freedom of the individual is the ultimate expression of democracy and any state intervention is bad. Whereas we see the state as a support mechanism for the most needy and vulnerable.