Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
No I do not think Pac Man could beat Spence. He still is a top welterweight fighter and was surprised he beat Thurman as I did not think he still had it in him. That also may be more about Thurman being inactive and not being as good as I thought he was. :)
Either way Spence is too good/big/better/younger for Manny now.
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
There’s always a chance, but Spence is too much. Pacquiao is used to being the aggressor. He could bully Thurman pretty well but even then, Thurman had his moments. Spence would knockout Pacquiao at this point. He wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure.
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
A few things.
1)No, and he probably won’t fight him because of it
2)I think Arum would make PAC/Crawford now in a heartbeat. Crawford/PAC wasn’t not made to protect Crawford.(apologies for the wording)
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
I wouldn't even want to see that fight. Spence is too much at this stage of his career and from their fighting styles, I can see Manny catching a real beating. He's too old for that type of punishment. I still think Manny's a force, I just cant picture a positive outcome for him in this one.
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
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I wouldn't even want to see that fight. Spence is too much at this stage of his career and from their fighting styles, I can see Manny catching a real beating. He's too old for that type of punishment. I still think Manny's a force, I just cant picture a positive outcome for him in this one.
Nah, I think you're bulling spence up a bit and not giving pac the credit he deserves, pac has just beaten thurman hasn't he?
You'd never bet against Spencer but you never know
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
Off the top I'd say just cannot see it and in a way want bigger newer things for Spence. But the legacy of Manny is cemented and they may very well roll this out should Spence hammer Porter. You never ever sleep on experience and pride when coming off the schooling..imo..like Manny gave Thurman. Thing is Spence strikes me the more diverse fighter right now and may have the best of both worlds v Manny. Spence on the backfoot would see Manny would have to shoot in with his combos, still has some speed, but be left in the brutal wheelhouse of Spence. He may very well land more than Spence would like early on but Spence has power that sits on a guy and Manny isn't exactly hard to miss in spots and he'll be covering up back to ropes when Spence pressures forward. I just overthought it. No Manny should let sleeping dogs lie and not rush into that buzz saw. Spence is a couple levels above the last few guys Manny has beat when it comes to self awareness, genuine confidence and the round by round ability..and willingness..to remove a guy from his senses.
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
As much as we all seem to rate Spence..his resume is no better than Thurman or Garcia.
Porter has been beat by Thurman, Brook and arguably beat in his last fight...Spence beat a post GGG Brook with a broken eye socket.
Spence needs to have a hell of of a 2020 to properly convince us that he’s the top dog at 147.
An old past it Pac would be the best opponent that Spence has fought to this point...Spence does want the big fights but if he doesn’t fight Crawford within 12 months then he needs to leave PBC.
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
Top dogs at 147 are PAC, Crawford and Spence.
Pac is already a legend and HOF and to have a crack at Crawford or Spence for his last fights will cement it even more.
I love Spence bodywork and style of fighting but there’s no escaping the fact that he has the weakest resume out of the 3.
Spence “sparring match” with Floyd is the most talked about thing about Spence career..there’s only so many times we can keep asking that question and demanding he fights the toughest guys in the division.
It’s either Crawford or PAC next for Spence or he (or Al Haymon) is wasting our time.
Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
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There’s always a chance, but Spence is too much. Pacquiao is used to being the aggressor. He could bully Thurman pretty well but even then, Thurman had his moments. Spence would knockout Pacquiao at this point. He wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure.
Spence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..
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No I do not think Pac Man could beat Spence. He still is a top welterweight fighter and was surprised he beat Thurman as I did not think he still had it in him. That also may be more about Thurman being inactive and not being as good as I thought he was. :)
Either way Spence is too good/big/better/younger for Manny now.
Every fighter that PAC fights now is bigger and younger than him.
All I’m saying is that putting PAC in with a Danny Garcia or Jeff Horn rematch is a weak choice for a guy that’s coming of a big win.
Name me a fighter in the 147 division right now that will put up a better fight against Crawford or Spence at this stage?
PAC just beat Thurman and needs a fight (last fight?) that will push him even further to put on a good show.
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No I do not think Pac Man could beat Spence. He still is a top welterweight fighter and was surprised he beat Thurman as I did not think he still had it in him. That also may be more about Thurman being inactive and not being as good as I thought he was. :)
Either way Spence is too good/big/better/younger for Manny now.
Every fighter that PAC fights now is bigger and younger than him.
All I’m saying is that putting PAC in with a Danny Garcia or Jeff Horn rematch is a weak choice for a guy that’s coming of a big win.
Name me a fighter in the 147 division right now that will put up a better fight against Crawford or Spence at this stage?
PAC just beat Thurman and needs a fight (last fight?) that will push him even further to put on a good show.
You asked if Pac Man can beat Spence I said no.
Who should Pac Man fight next is another question. I agree take on Crawford but it probably will be Khan.
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Re: Can Pac-Man beat Spence?
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There’s always a chance, but Spence is too much. Pacquiao is used to being the aggressor. He could bully Thurman pretty well but even then, Thurman had his moments. Spence would knockout Pacquiao at this point. He wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure.
Spence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..
He wasn’t looking for the knockout until the end and Mikey took his shots really well. An unpopular opinion of mine is that Mikey would beat Pacquiao too. Too quick and accurate. I think Mikey would even give prime Pacquiao trouble.
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There’s always a chance, but Spence is too much. Pacquiao is used to being the aggressor. He could bully Thurman pretty well but even then, Thurman had his moments. Spence would knockout Pacquiao at this point. He wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure.
Spence couldn’t knock out a tiny Garcia..I know he wanted to put on a boxing lesson but still..
He wasn’t looking for the knockout until the end and Mikey took his shots really well. An unpopular opinion of mine is that Mikey would beat Pacquiao too. Too quick and accurate. I think Mikey would even give prime Pacquiao trouble.
You sure? Mikey was way out of his weight and league.