Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
Benitez beat Duran but lost to Hearns and Leonard. 1- 2
Duran beat Leonard once but lost the second time and third time. He also lost to Benitez, Hagler and Hearns. 1 - 5.
Leonard beat Duran two out of three times, beat Hearns once and drew the other and beat Benitez and Hagler. 5 - 1- 1
Hearns lost to Leonard once and drew the second time, lost to Hagler, but beat Duran and Benitez. 2 - 1 - 1
Hagler beat Duran and Hearns, but lost to Leonard. 2 -1
You guys like to shit on Leonard, but he fought all of them and won all but one- one in which he avenged.
In my ranking:
Leonard
Hagler (only because I feel he would have beaten Benitez, or else I would have put Hearns ahead)
Hearns (if he had won a rematch vs. Hagler and won the rematch vs. Leonard, he could have come first)
Benitez
Duran
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
1. Leonard
2. Duran
3. Hagler
4. Hearns
5. Benitez
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Who shits on Leonard? He clearly was the #1 guy in that era.
People can make all the excuses they want for why Leonard won those fights, but in the end he knocked out Tommy Hearns, knocked out Benitez, made one of the toughest guys in boxing history quit, and came back from a 3 year layoff and, without even a tune-up fight, challenged and beat one of the greatest and most destructive middleweight champs in the history of boxing.
Leonard is boxing royalty and always will be.
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.
Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.
But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
Although your a bit a numb nuts ydksfdklfld or whatever your name is...
I think I like your logic on this one!! :)
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
1. Leonard
2. Duran
3. Hagler
4. Hearns
5. Benitez
Look im a Hearns fan as you probably know , however that order is fair I think. When you write those names down you remember how great that era was.
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
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Originally Posted by
Manju
Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.
Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.
But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
Yes, Hearns won that second fight and even Ray admitted that then and still does as of recent. And to be official...Ray beat Duran a second time later in their careers. So he is 2-1 against Duran. Hearns was a match up hell for him which is evident in both fights.
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
1. Leonard
2. Duran
3. Hagler
4. Hearns
5. Benitez
Look im a Hearns fan as you probably know , however that order is fair I think. When you write those names down you remember how great that era was.
Please explain to me how Duran being second is fair? He lost to everyone on that list.
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
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Originally Posted by
jehoshaphat
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
1. Leonard
2. Duran
3. Hagler
4. Hearns
5. Benitez
Look im a Hearns fan as you probably know , however that order is fair I think. When you write those names down you remember how great that era was.
Please explain to me how Duran being second is fair? He lost to everyone on that list.
Of course its all subjective , Duran starting at LW , gave him a big disadvantage , however did Duran have more historical impact than Benitez and Hearns , I think probably.
Also Marvin was great so maybe he could be second , its a tough one. As for Duran yes he got starched by Tommy , however he went on to beat Barkley who twice beat Tommy , its hard to pick the list - fact.
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
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Originally Posted by
Manju
Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.
Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.
But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
Agreed, Hearns won the 2nd fight and got robbed.
But like you alluded to, the first fight is the important one and Leonard came out on top.
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1. Leonard
2. Hagler
3. Hearns
4. Duran
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Originally Posted by
Manju
Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.
Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.
But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
I changed it. But I did have Leonard winning the fight.
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Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
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Originally Posted by
jehoshaphat
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Originally Posted by
Manju
Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.
Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.
But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
Yes, Hearns won that second fight and even Ray admitted that then and still does as of recent. And to be official...Ray beat Duran a second time later in their careers. So he is 2-1 against Duran. Hearns was a match up hell for him which is evident in both fights.
I changed that too. And makes it seem even more weird to have Duran ahead of Hagler and Hearns.
Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.
As champions of their best weight
Duran
Hagler
Leonard
Hearns
Benitez
P4P
Duran
Hearns
Leonard
Hagler
Benitez
My favourite
Hearns
Hagler
Duran
Benitez
Leonard