https://sports.yahoo.com/wbc-approve...005615483.html
Did anybody NOT see this coming??
The dude LEAPS over Beterbiev... to chase another meaningless trinket from an old NOBODY.
It's official, folks......
Canelo's a little bitch.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/wbc-approve...005615483.html
Did anybody NOT see this coming??
The dude LEAPS over Beterbiev... to chase another meaningless trinket from an old NOBODY.
It's official, folks......
Canelo's a little bitch.
Canelo Alvarez to pile on 32lb to face cruiserweight world champion
Alvarez is set to make a surprise move to cruiserweight to face WBC champion Ilunga Makabu after the governing body approved the shot at their annual convention which is set to take place in May or June
Canelo Alvarez will attempt to make a 32lb rise to challenge cruiserweight world champion Ilunga Makabu next year.
The Mexican has recently become undisputed champion at super-middleweight by defeating Caleb Plant to unify all four belts for the first time in history.
And he will now seek to win a world title in a fifth weight division against Makabu after the bout was approved by the WBC.
Any meeting between the pair has been approved to take place in April or May of next year, with Alvarez plotting his return after four fights in a calendar year.
"The WBC has approved unanimously Canelo to fight for the WBC cruiserweight championship of the world," WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said. "This is a surprise to me but I'm sure he will continue to make history."
Makabu is currently on a nine-fight winning streak and earned the WBC strap back in 2019 with victory against Dmitry Kudryashov.
The Congolese star is familiar to British fans having been defeated by Tony Bellew on a famous night at Goodison Park in 2016.
He stands at 6'0 and 200lbs which is a considerably larger stature than the Mexican four-weight world champion who is 5'8 and has never fought above 175lb.
Alvarez has had a remarkable rise through the super-middleweight division, defeating Callum Smith, Avni Yildirim and Billy Joe Saunders before challenging for the undisputed title.
And after rallying to an explosive late stoppage against Plant in Las Vegas earlier this month, he has consolidated his place further as the pound-for-pound No.1.
The 31-year-old has had a glittering career in the sport having began his career by becoming world champion at super-welterweight.
He then moved up to middleweight where he fought in two gruelling tests against rival Gennady Golovkin.
Alvarez has also reigned as a light-heavyweight champion having defeated Sergey Kovalev back in 2019.
He spoke after his fight with Plant about the possibility of returning to light-heavyweight which was also confirmed by his trainer Eddy Reynoso's four-fight shortlist.
If any fight falls through against the African champion, Reynoso previously stated a four-man opponent list for his fighter next year.
"There are several boxers who are in line," Reynoso declared to La Aficion. "[Artur] Bertebiev, [Dmitry] Bivol, [Jermall] Charlo, [David] Benavidez. We will see with whom we can reach a good negotiation.
"It's a lot of weight, at 168 pounds we feel very good and we prepare really well.
"We put in strength and he doesn't wear out. I think 168 [pounds] is better and we'll see who wants to fight him at that weight."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...-face-25477099
canelo could jump another two divisions again to take on a world champion in that division. the legend continue to grow
Hahahaha... He could've made it a little less obvious. Going up to 175 first and feigning interest by taking on a couple of journeymen... before saying "hey! I can go up to cruiser and fight for a title there!"
But no. Like in the old Monopoly game... "go directly to GO... collect $200." Not even the slightest hint of looking Beterbiev's way. It's all smoke and mirrors from the little bitch. He's scared shitless of a real challenge... so he skips OVER the division to do the ultimate cherry-picking. And his fans bend over for it, while singing his praises. Reminds me of another hypnotic Pied Piper, but in the political arena.
I almost feel sorry for Ginger fans who have to defend these chickenshit actions. It must be gut-wrenching to have to come up with excuses all the time.
What Canelo is doing is not physically possible without using illegal means.
There is no way he should be attempting this outrageous jumping up the weights and picking off trinkets without proper scrutiny, but he is.
This is the equivalent of Josh Taylor jumping up the next weight beating Crawford/Spence and then taking on and beating Charlo at light middleweight and then his brother at middleweight.
This will be exposed eventually.
You're right, @Master
Except there will be a combination of factors involved. Canelo will bulk up legally or otherwise, under the approving eye of the Sulaiman Family. But he'll also drain the other guy (I forgot his name already) as much as possible.
This isn't boxing anymore. These are extremely well calculated, predetermined events to further a bogus cause. If I wanted to watch this sort of B.S. I'd switch over to WWE.
WBC have accommodated this fight for Canelo whilst at the same time denied Whyte his mandatory position because he is taking legal action against them. Hypocrisy of the WBC is sickening.
Makabu was knocked out by Bellew after flooring him.
Lawrence Okolie's chances of unifying the cruiserweight division is not going to happen just yet. He tweeted "I get it, Canelo is a f****** g but that's another belt I can't unify now.
Somebody told me today that it's a catchweight. Now if it's a catchweight, it is a fucking disgrace. Even if it's not a catchweight, it's only just acceptable.
But like @Master said, to go up that much weight , and then probably come down is pretty impossible without "Assistance"
Trying to give a nod to Canelo when it's due is like being in a dysfunctional relationship with a chick with multi personality disorder. Never know what's coming and shock and disappointment get equal time. This is absurd and clearly highlights one major problem we all acknowledge...too many trinkets floating around and too many low grade trinket warmers to pick off should you have enough favoritism and stroke with the alphabet boyz. Unify a division and collect that tin..BUT you had better sweep a division of top challengers and verified mandatories before bailing out..again. He's a trinket collector of low hanging fruit here. Might as well have a little apron, broom and dust pan strapped to him hoping around like a bulked up bespeckled Peter Pan "daRinG to bE GreAt" :bucktooth:. Look I gave him all credit last out but this reeks. Clearly opponent obscurity and name value is pointless as he could fight a cold ring center and make millions.
If this goes as announced call a spade a spade..he's ducking Benavidez. Shit he'll be ducking an entire division if we're honest. But ask yourself when was the last time Canelo and his crew announced a fight some 6+ months out? Half of me thinks that some in his lot are waiting on Benavidez to self sabotage. Knows he's sealed out now and I'm still going to wager a very slight chance that this may be floated with intent to rattle the cages. If not boy I sure hope he can 'one up' Bellew and put him away in 2. On a side note it's a dumb move for career longevity too. Your body is not meant to be a yo-yo lab experiment. Especially when you get punched in major organs for a living. It doesn't work like that. But I guess we knew they tossed that book out the window when he opted for steak that night :-X
canelo just unified his division in less than twelve months. he is now looking to face a champion, two weight divisions higher. callum could have jumped two weight classes but didn't. canelo moved to light heavy before dropping back to unify. i see him doing the same after this fight. i'm glad canelo is not giving these time wasters an opportunity. they should be fighting each other. i'd prefer to see canelo go to bridger next if these other fighters don't start unifying
Okolie wants to unify the division and has been trying before he moves up to heavyweight.
Canelo threatening to move weights makes it harder for Okolie as the other champs will sit and wait for the additional pay day that Alvarez brings.
I agree with you point that the other champs should unify and put themselves at the front of the queue like Beterbiev.
@Spicoli you've always railed against trinket collectors, and here's the ultimate poster child for that. Kudos to you for wanting to remain objective and giving credit where it's due, while at the same time calling a spade a spade as you say.
Me... I've been an outspoken, unapologetic Canelo hype basher since Day One... and it gives me lots of perverse satisfaction to see all my predictions and observations turned into "I told you so's". Unfortunately, most people tend to ride bandwagons till the wheels come off and the floor boards have rotted out.
The truly sad part here is that boxing history cares little about asterisks in the form of cherry-picking and catchweights when adding up career belts. A trinket hunter like Canelo will be forever inflated in the annals of boxing history, albeit in a totally artificial manner.
True boxing fans see through the sham... while blind bandwagon riders do not. In this age of instant canonization, where the next TBE is only a breath away... casuals are only too happy to latch on to media-manufactured pretty boys who don't represent what boxing USED to be.
It's all a damn shame.
canelo will be the first mexican to win championships in five divisions if he can beat junior. after he achieves that he can deal with one seventy five
Canelo will also fight at the new Bridger weight division against a recently returned enzo maccarinelli for the IBF belt.
6 division world champ coming up.
With one loss.
I doubt alvarez will be weighing much if any more than he would at light heavyweight, the fight will probably be at some terrible catch weight like 176, even if the catch weight isn't that bad I dont think alvarez will pack on a ton of weight. I'm assuming he snipes the belt here then stays the same weight and just finishes off his time at light heavyweight.
His fights with PBF, Jacobs, 3G I didnt think he was a diva, hard to say he isn't now.
Real hard.
going up seven pounds won't give him a fifth divisional title. if the opportunity is available next why shouldn't he take it? i don't think canelo will weigh that much. canelo jumped up to grab a championship at light heavy before returning to super middle to unify. i could see him doing the same here
NO WEIGH OUT Ilunga Makabu vows to KO Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez after sizing up pound-for-pound star as Mexican admits he will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight
Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez is only willing to move up to 180lbs in his bid to dethrone Ilunga Makabu and become cruiserweight world champion.
The undisputed super-middleweight world champion cemented his legacy as the pound-for-pound best in the world with a dominant stoppage of Caleb Plant to take the last remaining belt at 169lbs.
Makabu will have a four-inch height advantage against Canelo and will be naturally much heavier
In a spectacular 12-month sweep, the Mexican collected the WBA and Ring Magazine belts from Callum Smith, defended the WBC title against Avni Yildirim, took the WBO strap from Billy Joe Saunders and then finally Plant’s IBF strap.
It is difficult to think of a more ruthless or dominant reign of a champion in recent history, with Canelo no longer tied down to a promoter or a broadcaster and not willing to let boxing politics to impede him.
At the WBC Convention in Mexico City, the 31-year-old was granted his wish to face cruiserweight champion Makabu to embellish his legacy to try and become a six-weight world champion.
In a spectacular 12-month sweep, the Mexican collected the WBA and Ring Magazine belts from Callum Smith, defended the WBC title against Avni Yildirim, took the WBO strap from Billy Joe Saunders and then finally Plant’s IBF strap.
It is difficult to think of a more ruthless or dominant reign of a champion in recent history, with Canelo no longer tied down to a promoter or a broadcaster and not willing to let boxing politics to impede him.
At the WBC Convention in Mexico City, the 31-year-old was granted his wish to face cruiserweight champion Makabu to embellish his legacy to try and become a six-weight world champion.
And although he wants to remain relatively light so he can move back down to light-heavyweight, Canelo admits he will still give away two stone when he fights the Congolese champion in May 2022.
“I’m a very smart fighter,” he said at the 59th WBC annual convention.
“I believe in my power and my skills, so this is why we’re going to try [to win the title at cruiserweight]. It’s a great challenge and a question of twenty kilos.
“It’s a fifty/fifty challenge, but I feel very strong. I love challenges and making history.
“That’s why I’m here, and I like this challenge. We will see if it is the most difficult challenge of my career on that day.”
Makabu was knocked out by Tony Bellew in 2016 at Goodison Park, but has since clawed his way back to title contention and remains one of the division’s most dangerous fighters by winning nine on the bounce.
While there may be a discrepancy in skill level, Makabu is a natural cruiserweight at six foot and punches hard – breaking Bellew’s nose in the first round at Everton’s home.
The 34-year-old southpaw could not quite believe his luck that the fight was made and is ready to take on boxing’s most lucrative fighter.
“Yes, I accept the fight,” he said at the convention. “When I got this news from my manager and (WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman), I said, ‘Wow! This is something good.’
“Canelo is the best boxer on the planet right now. So, I want to fight the best, and I accept, but there will be no catchweight for this fight.
“I think Canelo is making a big mistake, which he is going to regret. Canelo wants to prove to people that he can do better than others and I am quite prepared to let Canelo try for this dream, but I‘ve got my also story to write down.
“Yes, this is boxing. I lost to Tony Bellew, but I came back. Now I’m telling you 100 percent, I will knock out Canelo.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/9...cruiserweight/
Didn't realize Makabu was promoted by Don King :-X. Who just happened to announce his next fight will likely be a January rematch with Thabiso Mchunu who he knocked out 6 years ago ???. Canelo fights the "winner". Ok I'm confused. The real conundrum is who do you trust more..team Canelo or Don King the man's promoter. Maybe they should have waited on the photo ops, fight posters and pressers. What a circus. But this may be a case of a promoter NOT the fighter ready to take a big fist of step-aside money.
Why is it that promoters in general seem to take center stage with some fighters/divisions more than others?
When did promoters ever make news when Pacquiao (with the notable exception of the Floyd fight) was working his way through a "Who's Who" of boxing? When did promoters prevent or delay fights involving the MABs, Morales's, Cottos, or Trinidads of the world?
It seems like with the HW division in general (mostly the Big 3) and with the Ginger Diva in particular... it's all about the promoters.
It's OUR fault. WE... have allowed this to happen, like the pathetically groveling fan base we are. We'll gladly take the crumbs, as long as they throw us a fight once in a while.
That's why many people have given up on boxing.
thabiso was the mandatory & didn't want to step aside. probably had to sign a deal with don for next fight options. if he wins he hits the lottery. just has to keep an eye on don
Gennady Golovkin explains why he does not believe Canelo Alvarez is boxing’s pound-for-pound king and says he is ‘tired’ of Mexican’s recent fights
Gennady Golovkin has insisted undisputed super-middleweight king Canelo Alvarez is not boxing’s current pound-for-pound king.
The Kazakh IBF middleweight champion, who twice shared the ring with the four-weight champion, retains a rivalry with his former foe.
When they first met in 2017, the vast majority saw GGG deserving of a points victory.
However, the judges scored the bout a split draw.
There was plenty of bad blood when they met again a year later.
Second time around, Canelo was vastly improved and won a close decision.
The result was debated once again, but there were far fewer cries of ‘robbery’.
Three years on, there has been no trilogy bout with Canelo instead unifying middleweight titles, winning a light-heavyweight title and now becoming undisputed at super-middleweight.
These subsequent victories have cemented his position as pound-for-pound king in the eyes of most, but not his former foe.
“It depends what we take as the criteria,” Golovkin told the LA Times.
“After my fights with him, I don’t consider him the best.”
GGG continued: “To be honest, I am a little tired of this series of boxing, like carbon copy fighters.
“What Eddie Hearn is trying to do is present one of his fighters [for Canelo] after another.
“It’s like a soap opera that we’re all tired of.
“I think it’s time to move on and I think he should face the truth and have some conscience to end this.
“Because there are more interesting opportunities.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/9...und-for-pound/
Johnny Nelson has warned Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez his ‘biggest threat might be himself’ if he follows through with his plan to move to cruiserweight.
Canelo lit up the super-middleweight division in 2021, defeating Avni Yildirim, Billy Joe Saunders and Callum Smith to win every single major belt and become the first ever undisputed champion at 168lbs.
Having previously conquered the super-welterweight and middleweight divisions, the Mexican moved up to light-heavyweight in 2019 and duly knocked out Sergey Kovalev to become a four-weight world champion.
However, the 31-year-old is set on creating yet more history and is eyeing a fifth weight class to enter, by propelling himself all the way up to 200lbs to face Ilunga Makabu.
The Congolese brawler currently holds the WBC title in that division, having been knocked out by Tony Bellew previously in 2016.
“Canelo could be his own biggest threat. He might be biting off more than he can chew by stepping up to cruiserweight,” Nelson told Sky Sports.
“Me, as a former cruiserweight, I’m kind of insulted that this little man is coming up to our weight division. Any worthy cruiserweight will think, ‘No, that’s not happening!’
“That’s why the likes of Oleksandr Usyk are willing to step back down to cruiserweight to prove this. You’ll have a number of cruiserweights like Makabu, who are beatable.
“But then you have other cruiserweights that Canelo should never beat in a million years. Canelo’s biggest threat might be himself.”
Oleksandr Usyk held all of the belts at cruiserweight during his own dominant run, yet relinquished them all to challenge at heavyweight.
The Ukrainian now holds the WBA, WBO and IBF titles after beating Anthony Joshua, but admitted he would entertain a move back down to meet one of the pound-for-pound superstars in world boxing.
“Yes, I can fight him at cruiserweight, “Usyk told Boxing Insider. “But with only one thing – I keep my belts at heavyweight.
“Then I go back to cruiserweight and fight him and then I come back to heavyweight.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...r-usyk-weight/
Canelo Alvarez is 'more likely' to fight Jermall Charlo than Ilunga Makabu on Cinco de Mayo
Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez is 'more likely' to fight Jermall Charlo next than Ilunga Makabu, according to highly respected boxing insider Mike Coppinger.
The Mexican superstar is plotting his next move after he solidified his status as the world's greatest boxer by becoming the first undisputed super-middleweight champion last November.
Canelo Alvarez, 31, has been linked with a fight against the Congolese southpaw at cruiserweight, leading some - including his former foe Floyd Mayweather - to sensationally accuse him of ducking a fight with his American rival.
However, Coppinger claims that it is in actual fact Charlo, not Makabu, who has received the call to fight the Mexican later this year.
The fight is expected to take place on May 2 during Cinco de Mayo weekend - but a location is yet to be decided.
And, speaking to retired ex-champion Timothy Bradley Jr on ESPN, Coppinger said: “I’m hearing it’s much more likely he’ll fight Jermall Charlo on Cinco de Mayo. There are talks right now for that fight.
"If he is going to go to cruiserweight though, I think it would be a mistake, I mean look at the cautionary tale of Roy Jones Jr.
"Jones goes up to heavyweight, beats John Ruiz, wins the heavyweight title, then drops back down to fight Antonio Tarver.
"He struggles in the first fight, then knocked out in the second fight, and he was never the same.
"So I don't think you can yo-yo in weight over and over as a fighter.
"I think it's dangerous, I think it's risky, and I would right now look for Canelo to fight Jermall Charlo."
But while Charlo would no doubt be a decent test, Canelo has arguably already beaten the best there is at 168 lbs, including wins over former champions Caleb Plant, 29, Callum Smith, 31, and Billy Joe Saunders, 31.
And Mexico's pound-for-pound king recently insisted he has nothing left to prove, telling WorldBoxingNews: “Look, what I see and what I know is I beat the No.1 fighter at 168. It was Callum Smith.
“Next, Billy Joe Saunders, second. Next, the third one [Plant]. So, I beat all the best at 168.
"They were all undefeated. I beat all the best at 168, and now there’s people saying you need to fight this one — like always.
“This always happens. But I beat the best champion at 168. Then they say, ‘he’s scared of him’ or ‘he’s scared of that guy.’
"I am not scared about anything. I don’t avoid anybody. But what does that guy (Benavidez) bring to me? Nothing. Nothing.
"Mention a champion they [Benavidez and Charlo] fight before. How many? I really don’t care. Haters are always going to be haters.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...cid=entnewsntp
Blah blah blah...
Sick and tired of this soap opera.
At least he's fighting 3 or more times per year. Would you rather he was a once a year like so many other world champions. Or would you then be moaning as he's made to defend a title against some shitter who's been inexplicably made it into the top 5/10 by an ABC body?
Lets also not forget that the divisions are for upper limits only. He isn't necessarily going to balloon up in weight right to a divisonal limit. He could theoretically fight in the cruiserweight division and stay at 168lbs if he so wanted to no?
And so who cares if he decides to fight "at cruiserweight" first, before he comes "back down" to Light Heavy to hopefully take on a Bivol or (and) Beterbiev?
Now granted, if he fights Makubu (a top 4/5 cruiserweight), then comes down and continues to stay away from the very top guys from MW to LHW...then you can ask questions about who he is picking...
But since he has cleaned out the SMW division, he doesn't seem to be shying away from challengers and fights. And given he is more active than other champions in there he can be forgiven for a seemingly "easy, cruiserweight oick off" job, knowing that after that he is going to be back in the ring again within 6 months.
Not sure why people get so wound up by Canelo. I'm not a fanboy...I thought GGG beat him, and the meat issue hangs over his head still.
But come on, he is a great boxer, and active boxer in a day and age of the top tier fighting twice in 18 months. He wants to unify divisions (blame the myriad of ABC and the promoters for that shitshow) and become a Mexican great, and he happens to be a lottery ticket for everyone else in and around his weight class.
That is all true, Canelo is active but that is mainly because he has a huge contract with huge rewards for keeping busy. He might as well keep busy in his prime years and make as much money as possible. He has also jumped up in weight and fought top challengers at super middleweight and even if he has handpicked some fighters they have been at his new weight.
I am a Triple G fan and believe he beat Canelo both times but I could not see any other fighter do what Saul Alvarez has done. It is incredible what he has achieved going up the weights but I still do not class him as a great fighter yet.
Personally I'm a "quality" over "quantity" guy... so I care less about how many times he fights a year than I do about the fights he does make being against legitimate opponents at their peak and without a myriad of clauses.
Canelo's been around a while, and has a track record of "staying away from the very top guys" until it suits him. Kovalev was a perfect example. Why did he wait till Kovalev was ruined? "Coming back down hopefully to take on a Bivol or a Beterbiev"? Good luck with that. It's not in Canelo's M.O.
I belong to other boxing fan groups, and can tell you that Canelo has plenty of detractors even among Mexican fans who still remember the past Mexican great champions. They can tell the difference. Back in the days of the Julio Cesar Chavezes and the MABs, there was no protecting of the "0", nor the cherry picking for the sake of useless trinkets (remember Fielding?), nor the diva clauses that of course he can impose because like you said he's the "lottery ticket." It's a sham that feeds on itself.
I hope that answered your question.
So after all that it looks pretty much smoke n mirrors talking about 190? If anything, they managed to give King renewed life to the point he's actually juicing up empty ppv cards now ;D. Hey if it was all talk that ends in Charlo or Beterbiev than all thumbs up. But Joe Smith Jr has a trinket too and looked flat and 50 a couple weeks ago. In this fans honest opinion he hasn't exactly cleaned out 168 either.
Canelo Alvarez next fight: Offer from Eddie Hearn including Gennady Golovkin trilogy, Dmitry Bivol clash, Jermall Charlo also an option
Canelo Alvarez is weighing-up his options over who to fight next with a number of intriguing options on the table.
The Mexican has already achieved so much in the sport, winning multiple world titles in four different weight classes.
Most recently Canelo became the first person to ever become undisputed champion at Super Middleweight.
The 31-year-old remained incredibly active in 2021, fighting three times including victories over Billy Joe Saunders and Caleb Plant.
What does work in Canelo’s favour is that he is a free agent, not signed to a single promoter or TV company, meaning he holds all the cards on his future.
According to ESPN, Al Haymon’s PBC made a one-fight offer to defend his undisputed super middleweight titles against middleweight champion Jermall Charlo on May 7.
His fight with Plant in November was signed with PBC for a Showtime PPV and he earned a guaranteed $40million.
The other intriguing offer came from Eddie Hearn at Matchroom and was a two-fight offer.
The first clash would be against light heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol, also on May 7.
This would then be followed by the much awaited trilogy clash with Gennady Golovkin later in 2022.
Their previous two fights were at middleweight, but this time would be fought at super middleweight for Canelo’s four belts.
Canelo and Golovkin drew their first clash in 2017, before the Mexican won their rematch a year later by majority decision.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...ermall-charlo/