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Nathan Cleverly. Being screwed by the WBO.
Have a look at this link.
BBC Sport - WBO refuse Nathan Cleverly v Robin Krasniqi bout
The WBO are screwing someone over again. Poor Cleverly and Warren are trying to fight an amasing contender in Krasniqi. Who has defeated such boxers as Hakim Zoulikha and Abdelkahim Derghal who you probably havent heard of but with names like theres they must be really good.
Krasniqi is undefeated in 24 fights. The last five fighters have a combined record of 70 wins and 50 losses so they have won way more than they have lost.
In my opinion such a guy is worthy of a WBO title. Why wont they santion it and do there job.
Warren was hopeing this fight would take place to line up a super fight with the winner of Hopkins Dawson. If Cleverly beats this guy he deffinately deserves a shot against one of those two.
Poor Cleverly and Warren. What is the world of boxing coming to.
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Re: Nathan Cleverly. Being screwed by the WBO.
Warren doesn't seem too keen on matching Cleverly against Sukhotsky.
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
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Have a look at this link.
BBC Sport - WBO refuse Nathan Cleverly v Robin Krasniqi bout
The WBO are screwing someone over again. Poor Cleverly and Warren are trying to fight an amasing contender in Krasniqi. Who has defeated such boxers as Hakim Zoulikha and Abdelkahim Derghal who you probably havent heard of but with names like theres they must be really good.
Krasniqi is undefeated in 24 fights. The last five fighters have a combined record of 70 wins and 50 losses so they have won way more than they have lost.
In my opinion such a guy is worthy of a WBO title. Why wont they santion it and do there job.
Warren was hopeing this fight would take place to line up a super fight with the winner of Hopkins Dawson. If Cleverly beats this guy he deffinately deserves a shot against one of those two.
Poor Cleverly and Warren. What is the world of boxing coming to.
Yes he probably is , but as you indicate the WBO isnt a world title , its a fucking joke.
Cleverly isnt a real world champion , just like Steve Robinson wasnt.
How long is Cleverly going to fight british and euro standard fighters ? in so called world title fights.
Cleverly is mouthing off to much and doing nothing.
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Re: Nathan Cleverly. Being screwed by the WBO.
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
This time the WBO are actually trying to get Cleverly to fight someone of reasonable note. The guy the WBO want Clev to fight is Dmitry Sukhotsky ranked ninth in the world. Not great but a reasonably good record.
The guy Clev and Warren want to fight is Krasniqi, a serbian with a record of 37 wins and 2 losses, which sounds good but when you look at his list of opponents you will be ashamed of the sport of boxing.
Here are the records of the last 6 fighters he has fought:
1. 16 wins and 2 losses (not terrible)
2. 14 wins and 11 losses (not good)
3. 9 wins and 4 losses
4. 17 wins and 12 losses
5. 14 wins and 21 losses (Why bother)
6. 1 win and 11 losses.
The last 6 opponents he has fought have a collective record of 71 wins to 61 losses. He has made a career of beating on journeymen. So his recoerd looks good but is really a big pile of sh*t.
For some reason Warren thinks beating this guy will line Cleverly up for a super fight with either Hopkins or Dawson. What a joke. If this happens I am going to lose what little respect I have left for the sport of boxing.
Warren and Clev need to stop being pussies and fight real fighters. Not glorified punching bags.
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Re: Nathan Cleverly. Being screwed by the WBO.
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Have a look at this link.
BBC Sport - WBO refuse Nathan Cleverly v Robin Krasniqi bout
The WBO are screwing someone over again. Poor Cleverly and Warren are trying to fight an amasing contender in Krasniqi. Who has defeated such boxers as Hakim Zoulikha and Abdelkahim Derghal who you probably havent heard of but with names like theres they must be really good.
Krasniqi is undefeated in 24 fights. The last five fighters have a combined record of 70 wins and 50 losses so they have won way more than they have lost.
In my opinion such a guy is worthy of a WBO title. Why wont they santion it and do there job.
Warren was hopeing this fight would take place to line up a super fight with the winner of Hopkins Dawson. If Cleverly beats this guy he deffinately deserves a shot against one of those two.
Poor Cleverly and Warren. What is the world of boxing coming to.
Yes he probably is , but as you indicate the WBO isnt a world title , its a fucking joke.
Cleverly isnt a real world champion , just like Steve Robinson wasnt.
How long is Cleverly going to fight british and euro standard fighters ? in so called world title fights.
Cleverly is mouthing off to much and doing nothing.
I think the fighter makes the belt rather than the other way around these days.
For example Chavez jr is the WBC "world" champ but everybody in boxing knows that he is avoiding Martinez and the WBC are playing along with it.
To say Robinson was not a world champion is unfair.He won the belt on 2 days notice but I know it was vacant and not against a highly world rated fighter.But in his 7 title defences Robinson beat good world rated featherweights like Hodgkinson,McMillan and Mckensie who I know was coming up in weight. Robinso was also unlucky that he was forced to fight Naz who at the time could beat any feather weight in the world.
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Leighton
Have a look at this link.
BBC Sport - WBO refuse Nathan Cleverly v Robin Krasniqi bout
The WBO are screwing someone over again. Poor Cleverly and Warren are trying to fight an amasing contender in Krasniqi. Who has defeated such boxers as Hakim Zoulikha and Abdelkahim Derghal who you probably havent heard of but with names like theres they must be really good.
Krasniqi is undefeated in 24 fights. The last five fighters have a combined record of 70 wins and 50 losses so they have won way more than they have lost.
In my opinion such a guy is worthy of a WBO title. Why wont they santion it and do there job.
Warren was hopeing this fight would take place to line up a super fight with the winner of Hopkins Dawson. If Cleverly beats this guy he deffinately deserves a shot against one of those two.
Poor Cleverly and Warren. What is the world of boxing coming to.
Yes he probably is , but as you indicate the WBO isnt a world title , its a fucking joke.
Cleverly isnt a real world champion , just like Steve Robinson wasnt.
How long is Cleverly going to fight british and euro standard fighters ? in so called world title fights.
Cleverly is mouthing off to much and doing nothing.
I think the fighter makes the belt rather than the other way around these days.
For example Chavez jr is the WBC "world" champ but everybody in boxing knows that he is avoiding Martinez and the WBC are playing along with it.
To say Robinson was not a world champion is unfair.He won the belt on 2 days notice but I know it was vacant and not against a highly world rated fighter.But in his 7 title defences Robinson beat good world rated featherweights like Hodgkinson,McMillan and Mckensie who I know was coming up in weight. Robinso was also unlucky that he was forced to fight Naz who at the time could beat any feather weight in the world.
I agree with you the fighter not the belt, Robinson was a good world champ I feel and much underrated. In boxing most fighter's shoot the shit Froch is one and many others, remember
Froch down fall was his promoter he will never be a house hold name regardless who he fights.
Lots of people hate the fact Calzaghe, was a fighter the general public new not just boxing fans,
as for Chavez Jr is he a mediocre champion with a prestiges belt, Cleverly a good champion with
crap belt. Is that piece of plastic that important, or is it the man that holds it.;)
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Correction!!! Froch wanted calzaghes WBC belt because he was the mandatory until Calzaghe went to fight Hopkins!!
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
He didnt want calzaghes wbo he wanted his WBC!! The wbo would have come with it which he would have dropped that belt cos the guys that have it always seem to be mediocre
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
He didnt want calzaghes wbo he wanted his WBC!! The wbo would have come with it which he would have dropped that belt cos the guys that have it always seem to be mediocre
Froch is a hippocratic says one thing does another, as most fighters do as I said full of shit and he comes across as a cock. With his endearing personality you may think he's the dog's bollocks I just
think he's full of bollocks.;)
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Dia bando
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Dropanuke
They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
He didnt want calzaghes wbo he wanted his WBC!! The wbo would have come with it which he would have dropped that belt cos the guys that have it always seem to be mediocre
My point is that he wanted the fighter, not the belt ;)
If he just wanted the belt he'd fight Cleverly right now and be a two weight title holder. But he wants to fight the best, calzaghe was the best... Cleverly is not ;)
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Dropanuke
They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
He didnt want calzaghes wbo he wanted his WBC!! The wbo would have come with it which he would have dropped that belt cos the guys that have it always seem to be mediocre
My point is that he wanted the fighter, not the belt ;)
If he just wanted the belt he'd fight Cleverly right now and be a two weight title holder. But he wants to fight the best, calzaghe was the best... Cleverly is not ;)
I see your point ok.;D
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Dropanuke
They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
I think what you actually meant is "Froch is a hypocrite." "Hippocratic" refers to the oath taken by medical doctors, after Hippocrates.
(Though for the reasons AdamGB explained, Froch is not a hypocrite.)
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
I think what you actually meant is "Froch is a hypocrite." "Hippocratic" refers to the oath taken by medical doctors, after Hippocrates.
(Though for the reasons AdamGB explained, Froch is not a hypocrite.)
Sorry did not look to close at the spelling;D.
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
Nope, he wanted CALZAGHE!
Say what you will about Froch mate, but don't say he doesn't want to fight the best fighters out there. ;)
Adam what I am on about he belittle Cleverly's WBO title but wanted Calzaghes, would you not say
Froch is a Hippocratic and thats what I meant.;D
I think what you actually meant is "Froch is a hypocrite." "Hippocratic" refers to the oath taken by medical doctors, after Hippocrates.
(Though for the reasons AdamGB explained, Froch is not a hypocrite.)
Sorry did not look to close at the spelling;D.
"too close" :teacher:
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Re: Nathan Cleverly. Being screwed by the WBO.
Isn’t this a case of Cleverly trying to screw the WBO by having another easy defence when they have a mandatory challenger? Warren will pull some strings as he has a bit of influence of this title.
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
mate i am a massive calzaghe fan, and he was a genuine world champion whilst he was the WBO world champion
but i dont see the WBO as a major world title
it might be 4th in line it might not but either way it is long way behind the top 3
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Back hander.
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They want clev to fight another bum. Again!!!!
As froch says the wbo isn't a real world title
Funny he wanted Calzaghe's WBO title , typical Froch full of shit.;D
mate i am a massive calzaghe fan, and he was a genuine world champion whilst he was the WBO world champion
but i dont see the WBO as a major world title
it might be 4th in line it might not but either way it is long way behind the top 3
Why?
Over the past 20 years dozens of "great" fighters have held the WBO title.
Oscar, Pac, Hopkins, Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Naz, Lopez, Cotto, Corales, Castillo, McClellan, Benn, Winky, Guzman, Tapia, Morrison, Duke McKenzie, Enzo Macc, Herbie Hide.
That's a serious effing list and i've left shitloads out.
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Obviously it's just a belt and many great fighters have held it; however it does seem to serve as a glorified domestic title whenever a Brit gets a hold of one. Warren clearly has a very cozy relationship with the orginization as they are always incredibly lenient on his fighters.
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Obviously it's just a belt and many great fighters have held it; however it does seem to serve as a glorified domestic title whenever a Brit gets a hold of one. Warren clearly has a very cozy relationship with the orginization as they are always incredibly lenient on his fighters.
That's true.
Warren surely can dress up rubbish mismatches as "world" title fights. That's why the WBO love him.
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Re: Nathan Cleverly. Being screwed by the WBO.
So the title of the thread should now read:
Sukhotsky being screwed by WBO
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Master
Isn’t this a case of Cleverly trying to screw the WBO by having another easy defence when they have a mandatory challenger? Warren will pull some strings as he has a bit of influence of this title.
I started this thred. If anybody other than you doesnt get it I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. When you use words like POOR WARREN can you really take that seriosly. Basically it is the other way round. WBO want them to fight a guy ranked 9 in the world but they want to fight another loser with a shit record. Next time I think I will have to write "I AM BEING SARCASTIC" at the end of my post.
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Master
Isn’t this a case of Cleverly trying to screw the WBO by having another easy defence when they have a mandatory challenger? Warren will pull some strings as he has a bit of influence of this title.
I started this thred. If anybody other than you doesnt get it I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. When you use words like POOR WARREN can you really take that seriosly. Basically it is the other way round. WBO want them to fight a guy ranked 9 in the world but they want to fight another loser with a shit record. Next time I think I will have to write "
I AM BEING SARCASTIC" at the end of my post.
Ok then. :)
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Re: Nathan Cleverly. Being screwed by the WBO.
WBO has Chad Dawson 7th.
Pascal not ranked
Cloud not ranked
Hopkins not ranked.
Shumenov not ranked
Campillo not ranked
Diaconu not ranked
Erdei not ranked
Sillakh not ranked
HOw is a WBO belt worth a damn thing?
And if Cleverly is a champ what is he doing fighting a guy whose last 5 opponents were 70-50. Krasniqi didn't face a single guy that is decent in his 5 fights.
For example, ring ranked Gabriel Campillo's last 5 opponents were 92-13.
WBO has Krasniqi ranked 4th. If Ring magazine, ESPN, or any other legitimate sports site ranked the top 25 fighters at 175, Krasniqi doesn't make the list.
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So the title of the thread should now read:
Sukhotsky being screwed by WBO
When Suhotsky can be ranked number 1 when Dawson is 7, Pascal, Cloud, Hopkins, Campillo, Shumenov, Erdei, and Sillakh, are not ranked, then how could he ever complain about being screwed by anything?
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WBO is an awesome organization. How can anyone question the legitimacy of their belts and rankings?
Just look at their rankings at 168:
Champ Stieglitz
1-Kessler
2-Pavlik
3-Groves
4-Abraham
5-Degale
6-Anthony Dirrell
Lets see Kessler has done nothing since pulling out of the super 6.
Pavlik lost at MW, and had a tough fight at 168 where he looked like dogshit for alot of the fight.
Groves-really he's 3rd best in the world at 168? Maybe in a few years.
Abraham-so he gets his ass handed to him 3 times in the super 6 and he is 4??
Degale-he loses to Groves but you think he is 5th best in the world?
Dirrell-It is the wrong fucking Dirrell. Anthony Dirrell hasn't proven much, Andre Dirrell is the one that fought (and ended up pulling out of the super 6).
Where's Froch?
Where's Bute?
Where's Ward?
The top 3 in the world at 168 and not even ranked.
Where is Dirrell? He sat for a long time after pulling out of the super 6, but he looked impressive against a limited opponent in his comeback fight.
But the WBO belts really mean something. They rank Abraham but don't rank the 3 guys that beat Abraham!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously. this is a joke.
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WBO is an awesome organization. How can anyone question the legitimacy of their belts and rankings?
Just look at their rankings at 168:
Champ Stieglitz
1-Kessler
2-Pavlik
3-Groves
4-Abraham
5-Degale
6-Anthony Dirrell
Lets see Kessler has done nothing since pulling out of the super 6.
Pavlik lost at MW, and had a tough fight at 168 where he looked like dogshit for alot of the fight.
Groves-really he's 3rd best in the world at 168? Maybe in a few years.
Abraham-so he gets his ass handed to him 3 times in the super 6 and he is 4??
Degale-he loses to Groves but you think he is 5th best in the world?
Dirrell-It is the wrong fucking Dirrell. Anthony Dirrell hasn't proven much, Andre Dirrell is the one that fought (and ended up pulling out of the super 6).
Where's Froch?
Where's Bute?
Where's Ward?
The top 3 in the world at 168 and not even ranked.
Where is Dirrell? He sat for a long time after pulling out of the super 6, but he looked impressive against a limited opponent in his comeback fight.
But the WBO belts really mean something. They rank Abraham but don't rank the 3 guys that beat Abraham!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously. this is a joke.
What month are those ratings from?
The February 168 ratings look like this:
CHAMPION ROBERT STIEGLITZ GER
1 Mikkel Kessler DK
2 Arthur Abraham (WBO Europe) ARM
3 George Groves GB
4 Andre Dirrell USA
5 James DeGale (Int-Cont.) GB
6 Anthony Dirrell USA
7 Kelly Pavlik USA
8 Nikola Sjekloca SER
9 Ezequiel Osvaldo Maderna (Latino) ARG
10 Nader Hamdan (Asia-Pacific) AUST
11 Willberforce Shihepo (WBO Africa) NAM
12 Adonis Stevenson (NABO) CAN
13 Maxim Vlasov RUS
14 Edwin Rodriguez DR
15 Renan St. Juste CAN
As for Bute & Ward...I could be wrong but I don't think the alphabet groups put other groups beltholders in their rankings.
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Here's the other alphabet ratings for the same weight class
WBC 168
1. Anthony Dirrell (US)
2. Noe Gonzalez (Uruguay) SILVER
3. Nikola Sjekloca (Montenegro) INTL
4. Dyah Davis (US) NABF
5. Edwin Rodriguez (Dom. R.)
6. George Groves (GB) COMM/BBB C
7. James De Gale (GB) EBU
8. Alexander Brand (Colombia) LATINO
9. Adonis Stevenson (Haiti/Canada)
10. Tommy Oosthuizen (South Africa)
11. Renan St. Juste (Canada)
12. Mohamed Ali Ndiaye (Italy)
13. Maxim Vlasov (Russia) BALTIC
14. Andre Dirrell (US)
15. Yuzo Kiyota (Japan) OPBF
WBA 168
1. BRIAN MAGEE (INT. CHAMP)
2. DIMITRI SARTISON
3. ANTHONY DIRRELL
4. ARTHUR ABRAHAM
5. STANYSLAV KASTANOV
6. SERVER YEMURLAYEV
7. ADONIS STEVENSON (NABA)
8. EDWIN RODRIGUEZ D.R.
9. KELLY PAVLIK
10. DYAH DAVID
11. GEORGE GROVES
12. NIKOLA SJEKLOCA
13. GUSMYR PERDOMO
14. THOMAS OOSTHUIZEN
15. ALEXANDER BRAND
IBF 168
1 NOT RATED
2. Adonis Stevenson Canada
3. Edwin Rodriguez United States
4. Arthur Abraham Germany
5. Carl Froch United Kingdom
6. Librado Andrade United States
7. Thomas Oosthuizen South Africa
8. George Groves United Kingdom
9. Anthony Dirrell United States
10. Pablo Farias Argentina
11. Don George United States
12. James Degale United Kingdom
13. Glen Johnson United States
14. Dyah Davis United States
15. Andre Dirrell
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It's not really worth debating which belt is the best/worst. They all have faults.
IBF - Took bribes from promoters in exchange for ratings back in the 90s. I believe it was King or Arum. Also wasn't it them that rated a dead guy? I will give them credit for rarely handing out "interim" belts. Can't remember the last time I saw an IBF interim champ.
WBO - Ranks obscure fighters and lets promoters like Warren & Universum milk belts with weak title defenses.
WBC - Have shown a bias towards their countrymen. Bullshit Diamond and Silver belts...not to mention countless interim belts. The whole Rocchigiani fiasco.
WBA - They let Guillermo Jones hold a belt hostage without fighting for 2 years. They recognize 3 champs in one weight division. Bullshit Super, Regular and guess what Interim "Champions".
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TigerFan
It's not really worth debating which belt is the best/worst. They all have faults.
IBF - Took bribes from promoters in exchange for ratings back in the 90s. I believe it was King or Arum. Also wasn't it them that rated a dead guy? I will give them credit for rarely handing out "interim" belts. Can't remember the last time I saw an IBF interim champ.
WBO - Ranks obscure fighters and lets promoters like Warren & Universum milk belts with weak title defenses.
WBC - Have shown a bias towards their countrymen. Bullshit Diamond and Silver belts...not to mention countless interim belts. The whole Rocchigiani fiasco.
WBA - They let Guillermo Jones hold a belt hostage without fighting for 2 years. They recognize 3 champs in one weight division. Bullshit Super, Regular and guess what Interim "Champions".
all have faults.
None of them mean anything.
Ring belt is the only belt that is legit.
