Great matchup this!
Gotta go with Dubois
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/6...-frank-warren/
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Great matchup this!
Gotta go with Dubois
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/6...-frank-warren/
Id also go with Dubois, he looks better to me and has way more room to improve being so much younger, though his opposition has been so bad lately. Weren't they supposedly in talks before also? I don't know if Warren is really a major player anymore, he seems like purely a mouth these days and his fighters end up wasting their time.
This fight was promised all of last year and it never remotely materialised.
Instead Triple D fought people with padded records.
Joyce is nearest a world title shot. Dubois has got better and less statuesque but still a long way off world class level but has the time to develop.
I still think Joyce beats him but do not see this fight happen anytime soon.
Warren and Joyce's manager were chatting ringside minutes after Dubois banged Fujimoto out a few weeks ago.
Joyce's size might be awkward for Dubois at first (don't think Dubois has been in with anyone that size) but I reckon the openings will come and he'll get the stoppage.
Joyce is well experienced though so could flip it on its head.
Can see Joyce spoiling and holding loads in this rather than wanna stand and have a tear up.
These guys are so slow with their punches....lots of power, but geez slooooooow hands.
Both fucking useless I’m afraid.
Weird one really. Somehow Dubois is sitting in the top 5 and has the activity going so not sure how much he gains here. Money talks for sure and who doesn't love a showdown of two 'young' heavyweights but it's Joyce who is watching the clock over his shoulder. At 34 and an awkward Groot 6'6 style with pro inexperience it would be a massive now or never for him. In fairness though it's not like Dubois is docking many learning rounds himself.
Joyce throws punches like he is wearing medieval armour underwater.
Joyce was out jogging and got caught and passed by a glacier.
He is slower than kid thunder reading the complete works of Charles Dickens.
I'd like to see the fight, but I'm not really interested until the 1st bell rings.
Dubois. I just don't see it in Joyce. He reminds me of Derrick Jefferson
Joe Joyce has beaten the better fighters, I don't rate anyone Dubois has beaten. That said Joe Joyce is 34 fuck sakes, where have you been what have you been doing? I mean I know you're slow but holy shit, that is a GLACIAL pace!
I lean towards Joyce winning by stoppage in the middle rounds.
What was Joyce's deal anyways, did he just start boxing late? He isn't Cuban, why was he fighting in the olympics at 30 years old?
Great fight. The press conference is gonna be dull as shit though. The jaw-twisting boredom of the fight build-up will only be compensated by the intrigue over who beats whom on this. Dubois looks like one of those guys who when you get your phone out they ask "Any good games on there ?"
Gun to my head ? I'd pick Dubois but joyce strikes me as the kind of fighter who takes a couple years off your career when you fight him. Just a relentless slugger who can hit hard and is hard to discourage. He's bit like Hopkins in that he's better than he looks.
Not been all that impressed by Joyce in all honesty. Seems slow and plodding, but no doubt an awkward big lump for most out there.
I like the development of Dubois so far though and he certainly caries big power. Can seem very wild and raw at times, but I think he could find Joyce at some point and get him out of there.
Seems pretty risk free for the younger man as if he was to lose he can learn and bounce back, whereas Joyce doesn't have that time on his hands and is seemingly well enough ranked to find some "bigger" and less risky fights at the fringe world/contender level.
Joyce's manager Sam Jones has recently said thie fight is getting close to being signed and BT Sport are teasing it could be at the O2 arena.
Surely Dubois will have to step up eventually and yes being younger he can take his time or he can test himself right away. I think this is 50/50 I tend to side more with Joyce winning because although he's slow as molasses in February with his hands he's a better technical boxer whereas Dubois can leave himself open by being a little more wild.
I worry for Dubois IF he's sparked out cold that his career might be ruined much like a David Price ruined his career. Dubois has to focus on his defense even though he's a big puncher...that might be a difficult ask for a young fellow like him. It would be brilliant for his development if he were to hone and utilize those skills though....always ending off a hook or jab, keeping those hands up and chin tucked, tying up or pushing off when he's close to "no man's land" or the footwork is a little off, these are CRITICAL for a young fighter to learn.
In my view not enough young fighters attempt to get a "reset" from the ref when they are either in "no man's land" or not in a good comfortable rhythm with their opponent. A round is 3 minutes, take your time, tie up a time or two...not every time you're sizing each other up does one need to throw punches. Use the referee to your advantage as a fighter, he calls the breaks so know when to initiate a clinch and know when to push off or break a clinch early...Vitali Klitschko was very good at that, Mike Tyson was good at that, Evander Holyfield was good at that, George Foreman was good at that, Bernard Hopkins and Floyd Mayweather Jr are probably the best at it in recent memory.....it's a veteran move and although if it's done too much it's boring as shit, but I'll be damned if it isn't effective in #1 helping a fighter establish their rhythm AND #2 taking their opponent out of their rhythm. If Dubois chooses to fight Joyce SMART then I think the sky is the limit for him.
Dubois has the potential to be a better fighter than Joyce. Triple D jab is excellent and he is moving around the ring better far quicker now.
Still think Joyce would work him over now but given more time Dubois wins.
Do you think they should wait for this to be made then? I like the fight but I wouldn't mind if it was either made as the next fight or we wait it out a year before they go at it.
It depends which corner I was in.
If I was Joyce, I would want it now as Joyce will not get better but has enough to beat Dubois. His chances of winning will recede the further away the fight is as he is also getting older.
Dubois should continue getting more fights under his belt and getting even bigger exposure.
As a fan I would love the fight now, this year but I think Warren may delay if for the reasons I stated.
joe and daniel have agreed to terms for 18 april at the o2
joe is saying he will fight either hrgovic or daniel next
Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois agree to terms, will fight on Apr.18 in London
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...-london/141638
Credit where credit is due getting this one made. Heard Hearn earlier talking up Usyk v Chisora on March 28th, two good scraps within a few weeks. Only hope they don't stick them both on a ppv :-X. Have to like Dubois to get it done, great springboard fight.
Confirmed for April 11th at the O2 London
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https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02...a-on-april-11/
It's a good fight this one I would favour Dubois it will be competitive I think Joyce has a good work rate but Dubois has the power.!🙂
As I said before I love this fight. I just love it.
I really like Dubois.
He's humble and dedicated and quiet.
Massive big up for Warren here. He doesn't have to do this as fans have got use to Hearn's shyte shows and the way he protects fighters from really good 50/50 fights of which this is.
Along with his other 50/50 Wilder v Fury 2, old cod eyes is showing the fans that the boxing game is not just about accountancy but who is the best...LET'S GO !!!!
It's fantastic high stakes fight. Again credit to Frank Warren. Matchroom take note...
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Great news! Must say I'm pretty shocked it's been made. I thought that they would be kept apart for now. Maybe Joyce is struggling to get any meaningful fights and this will earn him a decent payday, because there isn't much upside for him unless he can destroy Dubois.
Very interesting match-up.
Props to Frank Warren for making it happen.
If only other promoters would make competitive fights like this instead of mismatches, boxing would be so much better.
Very good to see the prospect taking risks and fighting fifty fifty fights
Yesterday's press conference even had Both men.showing some personality for once.
https://youtu.be/m76TcTVPjeo