A shorter interview this time. What's your take. Implies he would step aside from usyk rematch if it made good business sense?? The guys finished as a major player
https://youtu.be/p4tEN1i8lZs
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A shorter interview this time. What's your take. Implies he would step aside from usyk rematch if it made good business sense?? The guys finished as a major player
https://youtu.be/p4tEN1i8lZs
AJ must be going insane if he is considering step aside he must be joking. No way this happens. Ever.
Yep. But he never came straight out and said he wouldn’t.
He sounds completely scattered and conflicted there. Bit of a roller coaster aligning 'fighter respect most important' with being known as the sports smartest business man ???. Never mentions Usyk until asked and changes the subject right off. Think he's genuine but mentally he's all over the place.
Or does he think he can't win the rematch and if Fury wins then he can get the big all UK showdown money.
He's not without closing career calculation at this point. But if he's doubting making adjustments and finding the fire for Usyk II and just content to step aside and sit down it sort of nixes that empty 'respect is my #1 point' for him. He's politicking. And who does he find the fire for while Fury and Usyk sort it out I wonder. Can't see Whyte II doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Calling it...trilogy with slimmer meaner Ruiz and this time he goes for the ko ;D.
It happens once one of his 'team' tell him he has no chance against Usyck and is better off holding water with Chisora or whyte until he can get a fury payday for getting beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Frank Warren's comments on that interview - starts at 12:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkU-Gdnv_tQ
I believe it is not true, AJ talking about step a side.
Fury will face Whyte and AJ will face Usyk. Winners match each other later in the year.
thanks for clarifyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
AJ knows that if he steps aside, he will lose his prime position to get revenge and get his titles back which may leave him in the wilderness for years.
It also sends out a message to his challengers that AJ is finished and done as a top fighter. That he has no confidence in himself and prefers to take the money than the challenge.
AJ can avenge his loss and be in a strong negotiating position when he eventually faces Tyson Fury. That fight will eventually happen one way or another. It is a huge domestic battle that we have been waiting for years.
It would go against AJ's legacy, hit his finances and impact on his performance because he will be less active if he takes the step aside money.
You maybe need to give him a ring
this poser. he is worse than wilder imo... wilder has an excuse, he started late and never learned to fight properly. joshua just wants to be a model.... get out of boxing aj.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Joshua didn't start boxing even as an amateur until he was 18 and although Wilder was 20, Wilder had already been boxing for 2 years when Joshua started, so that kind of obliterates that excuse. Forget the Fury fights and Joshua's record pisses all over Wilders.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajathis poser. he is worse than wilder imo... wilder has an excuse, he started late and never learned to fight properly. joshua just wants to be a model.... get out of boxing aj.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
AJ just got beaten on his feet by a very well rounded fighter, that in no way invalidates the rest of his career.
This step aside angle is gaining momentum in the media now.
It makes sense for Joshua in many ways. It's a rematch he can win yes, but Usyk is a strong favourite and its difficult to see where AJ goes after a rematch defeat particularly if he gets knocked out.
If Fury Usyk goes ahead then Joshua will get a hefty step aside fee and then the chance to take on Fury in a massive UK bout. If Usyk beats Fury then there's also the rematch for AJ then.
It's a no brainer the more you think about it I don't think he believes he can beat Usyk
This will happen*.
* unless Master gets through to AJ regarding his legacy when they have their phone call
Has anyone got AJ number?
Are you beginning to accept the possibility?
Never say never in boxing but this is never happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I blame the media and mark tko for spreading this fake news.
Makes sense financially and other ways. He lets the build up happen. Then negotiates a hefty step aside fee once the publicity catches and people are dying to see Fury and Usyk. He gets paid for doing nothing while letting someone else consolidate the belts for him so he can fight for all of them on one night for a huge payday. In the meantime, he gets more time with a new trainer/ consultant (I heard ronnie shields was contacted) to address some issues. He gets paid to train and build his confidence and shake off some of the cobwebs and jitters hes picked up along the way thus far.
Taking step aside money now would be shameful. He never regains respect in the sport again if he does. That’s broken man talk
Fury's view on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9__c3-E2S9I
Even Tyson Fury dad just said he thinks AJ will take on Usyk on talk sport.
Ah well that confirms it thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
John Fury backs 'brilliant athlete' Anthony Joshua to avenge Oleksandr Usyk loss
Joshua is set for a rematch against Usyk next Spring despite ongoing talks of a step aside deal to allow an undisputed heavyweight clash with Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua 's rematch against Oleksandr Usyk is being overshadowed by an ongoing step aside deal, but John Fury has backed 'AJ' to avenge his loss if the fight takes place.
Joshua lost his heavyweight titles to Usyk earlier this year and immediately triggered his rematch clause with the former cruiserweight king.
Matchroom Boxing boss Eddie Hearn fuelled speculation that 'AJ' could step aside from his rematch with Usyk and allow Tyson Fury to have an undisputed title fight with the Ukrainian.
WBC titleholder Fury has insisted he wants Joshua to make his decision about the rematch by this weekend.
And Fury's father John thinks Joshua's massive price demand for the step aside fight shows the Brit is keen to avenge his loss.
"It's business boxing and I do believe AJ wants to fight Usyk, that's why he asked for £40 million. I'd ask for £70 million, so good luck AJ," he told iFL TV.
"But I do believe AJ wants to avenge his loss and he can bounce back, he's proved it. In AJ's case now it's not about the money, it's more of a pride thing with him.
"I don't blame the lad, I've had a lot of good nights with him. He's a brilliant athlete, let's not kick a man whilst he's down because he's better than that."
Hearn has changed his tune on a step aside deal, originally telling Fury's co-promoter Bob Arum the fight was " none of his f******" business ".
Fury threatened to sack his promoters last month if they are unable to secure him a return to the ring by February or early March.
It's expected 'The Gypsy King' will defend his title against domestic rival Dillian Whyte next, despite the WBC delaying their decision to rule Whyte as mandatory challenger.
And Fury is hopeful that Joshua will come to an agreement to allow an undisputed fight to take place.
"I want him to step aside so I can absolutely batter Oleksandr Usyk. But if he does he does and if he doesn't it doesn't happen," Fury told iFL TV.
"But one thing I will say is get the f*** on with it, either take the money and f*** off or fight the man either way one or the other.
"He can talk to my advisor on what is going on with people and step-aside money because I don't get involved at all.
"I am not a businessman, I am a f****** spartan and I am only interested in knocking mother******* out.
"I have heard a certain little person called AJ talk about being a businessman recently but I will fight to the end, this is nothing to do with business or whoever I am fighting."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...-usyk-25639850
Tyson Fury concedes defeat in Anthony Joshua pursuit after Dillian Whyte order
Tyson Fury's promoter Bob Arum has told his charge to focus on his upcoming mandatory defence against Dillian Whyte despite his desire to face Oleksandr Usyk.
Fury has now been ordered by the WBC to defend his heavyweight title against Dillian Whyte next year after a long wait for the official ruling.
The 'Gypsy King' offered rival Anthony Joshua a step-aside deal in a bid to hijack his rematch plans for an undisputed tilt of his own against Oleksandr Usyk.
But his long-term promoter Arum has encouraged Fury to focus on his test with Whyte so that he can progress and face the winner of Joshua's rematch with Usyk afterwards.
“We’re dealing with professionals, and Todd duBoef is talking to the Dillian Whyte people, and hopefully we can put that fight together,” said Bob Arum to Boxing Social.
“What difference does it make now? Joshua can step aside. Whyte has got to step aside. Forget these step asides. Let Joshua fight Usyk again. He has a contract to do that and let Dillian Whyte fight Tyson Fury.
"Whoever wins those two fights then fights for all the belts. I mean, it’s just a few months until it’s sorted out. Let’s stop doing what really is tortuous to get step asides and all of that stuff. It becomes so complicated, and it’s a convoluted way of doing."
Fury has been trying to encourage Joshua and his team to accept a step-aside deal so he can face Usyk for all the belts next year.
Joshua initially refused the offer but then later opened the door to potential negotiations citing "business" as the main reason.
The 'Gypsy King' was keen to face Joshua providing he progressed against Usyk after his recent victory over Deontay Wilder, but Joshua now faces a redemption task to bring his belts back to the UK.
However it is unlikely this will now take place after Joshua demanded to face the winner of any bout between Fury and Usyk, which would now require Whyte to also avoid cashing in his title shot.
'AJ' has always had his eye on a second revenge bid in a similar vein to the rematch victory he picked up against Andy Ruiz last year.
And Fury has cast his eyes away from Joshua and Usyk making a knockout prediction for his upcoming mandatory challenge against Whyte.
"How many days has he been my mandatory?" Fury joked in an interview with Behind The Gloves. "One! So welcome to the big GK [Gypsy King] world.
"I've known Dillian a long time, we go back a long way and he's improved a lot over the last few years. "But the outcome will always be the same, I'll knock him out if that fight happens."
Fury will now negotiate his shot at Whyte with his team and a return to the UK is expected with the Principality Stadium in Cardiff touted as the front-running venue.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...cid=entnewsntp
Well it's in the news again re Joshua team weighing up stepping aside.
It's going to happen
Yep.£15 million has been quoted. I know I sound like a prick saying AJ shouldn’t take step aside , easy to turn down £15 million when it’s not you being offered it and all that. And would I truly turn it down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
But it’s not about the monetary figure, it’s what stepping aside means mentally and professionally.
It’s a step closer to admitting that you can’t win . It’s not a good look.
Even Diane Abbot could do the maths on this one, £15m for doing bugger all, a warm up fight against an acceptable stiff, and a megamoney fight against the Fury/Usyck winner. Pension plan nicely sorted, then media training for life after boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep.£15 million has been quoted. I know I sound like a prick saying AJ shouldn’t take step aside , easy to turn down £15 million when it’s not you being offered it and all that. And would I truly turn it down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
But it’s not about the monetary figure, it’s what stepping aside means mentally and professionally.
It’s a step closer to admitting that you can’t win . It’s not a good look.
This offer is relatively low for AJ to step aside. AJ generates far more money than that and he should only consider it if they triple it.
AJ will be losing control and power if he takes the money.
Arum and Fury will get that money back and more when they win the title and negotiate a fight with AJ. They will effectively bend Anthony over and give it to him good.
Do not take the offer!
As said above. 15 million to step aside then fight the winner anyway. Why not.
I've never really looked at purse splits over the years so no idea what Fury, if he beat Usyk, could potentially demand?